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Daniel Jones listed as DOUBTFUL vs. Seahawks

EddieNYG : 12/4/2020 1:50 pm
Not surprising...

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@Dan_Salomone

QB Daniel Jones (hamstring) is officially listed as DOUBTFUL for #NYGvsSEA. LB David Mayo (knee) is questionable.

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I think most of us expected this.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/4/2020 1:53 pm : link
Thankfully for us, the rest of the division is on the road as well against teams they will most likely lose against. So, we can lose this week and still possibly be in first place. However, we really need Jones for the following week at home vs. Arizona. If he doesn't play next week, we'll probably be in some trouble as far as 1st place goes. Just be ready for ARI, please.
No sense in rushing him back  
RCPhoenix : 12/4/2020 1:54 pm : link
It was always going to be up to the D to make this game competitive anyway. They cannot let Metcalf beat them.
I'm Not Sure If There Are More Official Definitions  
Trainmaster : 12/4/2020 2:01 pm : link
“Questionable”: it is uncertain whether a player will play in the game (so any player whose chances of playing are less than 100 percent).

“Doubtful”: a player is unlikely to participate.

"Out”: will not play.


WaPo 2016 Article On Injury Classifications - ( New Window )
Thanks.  
TC : 12/4/2020 2:07 pm : link
But no surprise. I would be surprised if he didn't miss more than just this game. And I would rather he be completely healed, than risking further injury in what I view as essentially a learning season for the team as a whole.
Jones  
Cwebfan23 : 12/4/2020 2:12 pm : link
He did practice though today (although limited). So progress!
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3 of 4 top RB's for Seattle are Questionable  
Rico : 12/4/2020 2:18 pm : link
They are having batch injuries at RB the way we sometimes have injuries at CB and safety.
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Kyle in NY : 12/4/2020 2:28 pm : link
I think the fact that he was able to get some work in this week bodes well for potentially being able to play next week. This game was always going to be a long shot
RE: I'm Not Sure If There Are More Official Definitions  
islander1 : 12/4/2020 2:34 pm : link
In comment 15065939 Trainmaster said:
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“Questionable”: it is uncertain whether a player will play in the game (so any player whose chances of playing are less than 100 percent).

“Doubtful”: a player is unlikely to participate.

"Out”: will not play.
WaPo 2016 Article On Injury Classifications - ( New Window )


I thought it was basically like this:

Probable - 75% chance
Questionable - 50/50
Doubtful - 25% chance
Win or lose  
BrianLeonard23 : 12/4/2020 2:39 pm : link
Silver lining is we get a trip to Seattle out of the way in a season without fans. That place is a house of horrors.
hopefully means he will sit this week and come back close to healthy  
Eric on Li : 12/4/2020 2:45 pm : link
next week. Not worth exacerbating it and might be a good experience for him when he comes back to try to find ways to thrive in a more pocket passer role.
I know Judge hinted earlier this week that Jones  
mfsd : 12/4/2020 2:48 pm : link
would fly with the team to Seattle tomorrow, but I'd still be surprised if he did. Kinda felt like Judge was trying to be coy about Jones's status to force Seattle to prepare for him too
RE: I know Judge hinted earlier this week that Jones  
nygiants16 : 12/4/2020 2:51 pm : link
In comment 15065973 mfsd said:
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would fly with the team to Seattle tomorrow, but I'd still be surprised if he did. Kinda felt like Judge was trying to be coy about Jones's status to force Seattle to prepare for him too


He is supposedly traveling to see how he feels after walk through tomorrow..
I don't want him to play.  
Josh in MD : 12/4/2020 2:54 pm : link
At Seattle looks to be the toughest of our five remaining games. We're not expecting to win out, and we don't need to in order to make the playoffs, which would be a great achievement to build on, even with a losing record. Our chances of winning any/some/all of the the following four will depend heavily on getting him healthy.
they should leave him home. no sense making him sit on  
Victor in CT : 12/4/2020 3:11 pm : link
2 6 hours flights with a tight hammy.

And I think they can still win this game. Not much margin or error, but doable.
RE: No sense in rushing him back  
sb from NYT Forum : 12/4/2020 3:12 pm : link
In comment 15065934 RCPhoenix said:
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It was always going to be up to the D to make this game competitive anyway. They cannot let Metcalf beat them.


I kinda wish he didn’t rush back on the field last weekend.
Damn...  
ryanmkeane : 12/4/2020 3:24 pm : link
well hey, maybe if he feels great in 2 days there's a chance. Let's go Colt.
...  
ryanmkeane : 12/4/2020 3:25 pm : link
Eagles at Packers
Washington at Steelers
Cowboys at Ravens

If there was ever a week for us to lose, this is it.
Tomorrow will be interesting  
nygiants16 : 12/4/2020 3:29 pm : link
becaise if he doesnt travel he will be downgraded to out, if he does and goes through the walk through he could be upgraded to questionable
I'm not putting much stock into this  
bigblue5611_2 : 12/4/2020 3:36 pm : link
until we see the report tomorrow after the walkthrough and Sunday before the game. Judge has already said that DJ is making the trip and from the limited (and some from a ways away) video clips that were on Twitter yesterday, he looked like he was planting and throwing pretty well off it given how he looked on his last pass against Cincy.
RE: ...  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 12/4/2020 3:36 pm : link
In comment 15066005 ryanmkeane said:
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Eagles at Packers
Washington at Steelers
Cowboys at Ravens

If there was ever a week for us to lose, this is it.


OTOH, a win could give the team a nice cushion and more of a margin of error for the last 4 games.
RE: they should leave him home. no sense making him sit on  
RCPhoenix : 12/4/2020 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15065990 Victor in CT said:
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2 6 hours flights with a tight hammy.

And I think they can still win this game. Not much margin or error, but doable.


I was thinking the same thing - why fly him all that way if he's unlikely to play? Having said that, you don't reinjure or worsen a hammy by sitting in a chair.
Realistically even if Giant win NFC East IMO  
jsuds : 12/4/2020 4:30 pm : link
we're NOT a championship caliber team. Not enough weapons. So let Jones recover fully no matter how long it takes and get a better draft position.
here on BBI...  
BCD : 12/4/2020 4:39 pm : link
you can tell the REAL Giants fans.....
RE: I'm Not Sure If There Are More Official Definitions  
FStubbs : 12/4/2020 5:02 pm : link
In comment 15065939 Trainmaster said:
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“Questionable”: it is uncertain whether a player will play in the game (so any player whose chances of playing are less than 100 percent).

“Doubtful”: a player is unlikely to participate.

"Out”: will not play.
WaPo 2016 Article On Injury Classifications - ( New Window )


I thought there was "Probable" - player is likely to play but is banged up.
Probable was Westbrook  
Tuckrule : 12/4/2020 5:26 pm : link
Doubtful was buckhalter
RE: RE: I'm Not Sure If There Are More Official Definitions  
shyster : 12/4/2020 5:27 pm : link
In comment 15066092 FStubbs said:
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In comment 15065939 Trainmaster said:


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“Questionable”: it is uncertain whether a player will play in the game (so any player whose chances of playing are less than 100 percent).

“Doubtful”: a player is unlikely to participate.

"Out”: will not play.
WaPo 2016 Article On Injury Classifications - ( New Window )



I thought there was "Probable" - player is likely to play but is banged up.


Probable was eliminated before the 2016 season because just about everyone getting that designation played.
RE: hopefully means he will sit this week and come back close to healthy  
ColHowPepper : 12/4/2020 6:29 pm : link
In comment 15065972 Eric on Li said:
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next week. Not worth exacerbating it and might be a good experience for him when he comes back to try to find ways to thrive in a more pocket passer role.
Next week: 'Close to healthy'? Doubtful. Neither hamstrings nor hamstring injuries are created equal, so I get the the hopes and dreams.

You need not have looked beyond his body (leg) language when he returned for a play last Sunday. Hamstrings--very thick muscles even on slender bodies--are deep tissue and do not magically resolve. Time + rehab the only remedy.
RE: RE: RE: I'm Not Sure If There Are More Official Definitions  
mfsd : 12/4/2020 6:51 pm : link
In comment 15066107 shyster said:
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In comment 15066092 FStubbs said:


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In comment 15065939 Trainmaster said:


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“Questionable”: it is uncertain whether a player will play in the game (so any player whose chances of playing are less than 100 percent).

“Doubtful”: a player is unlikely to participate.

"Out”: will not play.
WaPo 2016 Article On Injury Classifications - ( New Window )



I thought there was "Probable" - player is likely to play but is banged up.



Probable was eliminated before the 2016 season because just about everyone getting that designation played.


Wasn’t that bc of Belichick? If memory srv
If memory serves the Pats got fined bc a guy  
mfsd : 12/4/2020 6:52 pm : link
who wasn’t on their injury report didn’t play one week...so Belichick started listing his entire roster as probable every week or something like that
RE: RE: hopefully means he will sit this week and come back close to healthy  
Eric on Li : 12/4/2020 6:58 pm : link
In comment 15066143 ColHowPepper said:
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In comment 15065972 Eric on Li said:

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next week. Not worth exacerbating it and might be a good experience for him when he comes back to try to find ways to thrive in a more pocket passer role.

Next week: 'Close to healthy'? Doubtful. Neither hamstrings nor hamstring injuries are created equal, so I get the the hopes and dreams.

You need not have looked beyond his body (leg) language when he returned for a play last Sunday. Hamstrings--very thick muscles even on slender bodies--are deep tissue and do not magically resolve. Time + rehab the only remedy.


I don't expect to see him running much the rest of the year. Just hoping he can come back and throw a ball without looking like he got shot in the leg.
"Probable was eliminated"  
Leg of Theismann : 12/4/2020 7:41 pm : link
The thing is, I feel like it actually makes things more confusing. Because now, any player with the slightest injury, even if they are 90% chance of playing, gets designated as Questionable. But players who are also 50/50 to play, or even a little less than 50/50, also get "Questionable". So, to me, when I see "Questionable", I flat out have no idea what that means. IMO, they should bring back "Probable" for the players that are likely to play. If the "Probable" guys pretty much ALWAYS play, then just prepare as if the Probable guy is playing. If a coach starts listing guys as probable and they aren't playing half the time, then investigate that specific coach. IDK.
Sorry meant to say "Probable" was eliminated  
Leg of Theismann : 12/4/2020 7:42 pm : link
Didn't mean for quotes to be around all three words.
Would be floored if he  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/4/2020 7:52 pm : link
played. Hopefully back vs. the Cards in 9 days.
RE: No sense in rushing him back  
RDJR : 12/4/2020 8:11 pm : link
In comment 15065934 RCPhoenix said:
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It was always going to be up to the D to make this game competitive anyway. They cannot let Metcalf beat them.


Huh? If we don’t need him now, when do we need him? We are playing for a divisional title for the next 5 weeks. Need all hands on deck.
Seahawks Injury Update  
SLIM_ : 12/4/2020 8:45 pm : link
Seattle Seahawks

Doubtful

CB Tre Flowers (hamstring, did not participate)

RB Travis Homer (wrist/knee/thumb, did not participate)

OT Brandon Shell (ankle, did not participate)

Questionable

DE Carlos Dunlap (foot, did not participate)

C/G Kyle Fuller (ankle, did not participate)

RB Carlos Hyde (toe, limited participation)

G Damien Lewis (groin, limited participation)
Didn't the categories used to mean:  
81_Great_Dane : 12/4/2020 9:10 pm : link
PROBABLE - 75-25 in favor of playing
QUESTIONABLE - 50 - 50
DOUBTFUL - 25-75 against

Which is all fine in theory but didn't work, so they dropped that system.
RE: RE: I'm Not Sure If There Are More Official Definitions  
81_Great_Dane : 12/4/2020 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15065963 islander1 said:
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In comment 15065939 Trainmaster said:


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“Questionable”: it is uncertain whether a player will play in the game (so any player whose chances of playing are less than 100 percent).

“Doubtful”: a player is unlikely to participate.

"Out”: will not play.
WaPo 2016 Article On Injury Classifications - ( New Window )



I thought it was basically like this:

Probable - 75% chance
Questionable - 50/50
Doubtful - 25% chance
What he said.
There's a chance?  
JOrthman : 12/4/2020 10:05 pm : link
......  
Route 9 : 12/5/2020 10:32 am : link
People putting too many words in quotes these days dilutes their meaning so we have pointless discussions about what a word means.

Doubtful means doubtful. Oh, wait. Where have I read this before?
At this point, I doubt he’s really doubtful ...  
Spider56 : 12/5/2020 12:51 pm : link
And I question what questionable really means. In any case, I’m out.
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