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Name a QB who threw a harder fastball than Josh Allen.

cpgiants : 1/9/2021 4:34 pm
The ball seems to leave his hand and fingers as quick as Marino but hes a harder thrower.

Elway, Favre, Jeff George were some of the higher velocity guys Ive seen but I dont know.

This guy throws it different man.
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Jeff George  
montanagiant : 1/9/2021 4:35 pm : link
Throws one of the prettiest deep passes I have seen
Mahomes  
pjcas18 : 1/9/2021 4:36 pm : link
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I think right now Mahomes and Allen have the two strongest arms in the league out of the starters, not sure if one throws a harder fastball than the other.
Herbert has a huge arm too  
robbieballs2003 : 1/9/2021 4:36 pm : link
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RE: Mahomes  
section125 : 1/9/2021 4:37 pm : link
In comment 15116156 pjcas18 said:
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I think right now Mahomes and Allen have the two strongest arms in the league out of the starters, not sure if one throws a harder fastball than the other.


Not sure Mahomes throws harder than Rodgers.
Elway for sure...  
bw in dc : 1/9/2021 4:37 pm : link
see the "Elway Cross" story to give you an idea how hard he threw...
Elway - ( New Window )
RE: Elway for sure...  
kes722 : 1/9/2021 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15116160 bw in dc said:
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see the "Elway Cross" story to give you an idea how hard he threw... Elway - ( New Window )


Beat me to it...
Elway Really Had An Unreal Fastball  
Trainmaster : 1/9/2021 4:39 pm : link
Allen and Mahomes among current QBs.
Current  
lax counsel : 1/9/2021 4:40 pm : link
I’d say Mahomes and Herbert are in the class of velocity. Historically, Marino, Elway, George, probably missing a few others.
It's a good release but not Marino fast lol. Rodgers is faster..  
The Truth : 1/9/2021 4:40 pm : link
Mahomes is faster, throws harder and more accurately. Think Baker throws harder too but is terribly inaccurate. He's good but its early.
RE: RE: Mahomes  
The Truth : 1/9/2021 4:43 pm : link
In comment 15116158 section125 said:
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I think right now Mahomes and Allen have the two strongest arms in the league out of the starters, not sure if one throws a harder fastball than the other.



Not sure Mahomes throws harder than Rodgers.


Rodgers is the best pure passer I've ever seen. He's also a genius scanning the field and making good decisions. I would give my left nut to have him sniffing Gates' balls and ass on Sunday's.
Randall Cunningham  
Big Blue '56 : 1/9/2021 4:43 pm : link
in his prime
Mike Vick (ugh)?  
Big Blue '56 : 1/9/2021 4:43 pm : link
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RE: Randall Cunningham  
Eli Wilson : 1/9/2021 4:45 pm : link
In comment 15116172 Big Blue '56 said:
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in his prime


That's a good call.

I'd also add Kerry Collins, but he had a ridiculously slow release.
RE: RE: Elway for sure...  
bw in dc : 1/9/2021 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15116162 kes722 said:
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see the "Elway Cross" story to give you an idea how hard he threw... Elway - ( New Window )



Beat me to it...


I attended Phillipsburg High School in Phillipsburg, NJ. About a decade before I graduated, we had Jim Clymer, an all-state TE, who attended Stanford and played with Elway.

I have met Jim a few times and talked with him about playing with Elway. He's the one who told me about the "Elway Cross" and how he learned very quickly to catch Elway passes with his hands instead of the body.
there are a few  
Producer : 1/9/2021 4:49 pm : link
that have Allen's arm on medium length throws, including Mahomes, Rodgers and Herbert, maybe Stafford.

But length and power there is nobody quite like him playing today.
Hard Thrower  
gregori : 1/9/2021 5:02 pm : link
Anyone among the old timers here remember how hard Bert Jones threw?
RE: Hard Thrower  
Big Blue '56 : 1/9/2021 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15116190 gregori said:
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Anyone among the old timers here remember how hard Bert Jones threw?


As hard as you remember
Sonny Jurgenson..  
Big Blue '56 : 1/9/2021 5:05 pm : link
Also, in his early years, Norm Snead had a helluva arm
Marino  
George from PA : 1/9/2021 5:11 pm : link
.....
Steve Bartkowski  
JINTin Adirondacks : 1/9/2021 5:13 pm : link
Could wing it as well
Terry Bradshaw  
JerseyCityJoe : 1/9/2021 5:14 pm : link
He broke more than his fair share of fingers trying to catch his fastballs.
In other words,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/9/2021 5:17 pm : link
there were MANY
Sonny Jurgenson  
JerseyCityJoe : 1/9/2021 5:19 pm : link
IMHO Maybe the most fearless QB to play the game.
I remember  
Mark from Jersey : 1/9/2021 5:33 pm : link
Kerry Collins having quite the arm.
Stafford  
GoDeep13 : 1/9/2021 5:34 pm : link
Has a fricken rocket and it’s rarely recognized.
Collins threw it hard  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/9/2021 5:38 pm : link
The problem is he threw it just as hard on a three yard pass as a 30 yard pass. Which was a problem.
RE: Stafford  
Capt. Don : 1/9/2021 5:50 pm : link
In comment 15116224 GoDeep13 said:
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Has a fricken rocket and it’s rarely recognized.


Stafford might be the most underrated player in the league.
Elway and Bradshaw  
LBH15 : 1/9/2021 5:52 pm : link
with best guns I have seen.
Elway  
PaulN : 1/9/2021 5:56 pm : link
No question.
RE: Elway and Bradshaw  
Producer : 1/9/2021 6:02 pm : link
In comment 15116249 LBH15 said:
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with best guns I have seen.


Bradshaw had a nice arm but seriously it wasn't better than Marino, Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen or Stafford
RE: In other words,  
joeinpa : 1/9/2021 6:02 pm : link
In comment 15116209 Big Blue '56 said:
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there were MANY


Yep,
RE: In other words,  
Mcphedge : 1/9/2021 6:07 pm : link
In comment 15116209 Big Blue '56 said:
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there were MANY



...including the late Steelers QB Joe Gilliam...
RE: RE: Elway and Bradshaw  
LBH15 : 1/9/2021 6:11 pm : link
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with best guns I have seen.



Bradshaw had a nice arm but seriously it wasn't better than Marino, Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen or Stafford


Better? Different question.
RE: RE: RE: Elway and Bradshaw  
Producer : 1/9/2021 6:15 pm : link
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with best guns I have seen.



Bradshaw had a nice arm but seriously it wasn't better than Marino, Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen or Stafford



Better? Different question.


well.. not in their class, I would say.
Mahommes, Elway, Jeff George, Marino, and others  
PatersonPlank : 1/9/2021 6:19 pm : link
Allen has a really good arm, but it is not some kind of legendary thing. Elway was the best arm IMO
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LBH15 : 1/9/2021 6:19 pm : link
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with best guns I have seen.



Bradshaw had a nice arm but seriously it wasn't better than Marino, Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen or Stafford



Better? Different question.



well.. not in their class, I would say.


Different game. Stop changing the question.

Simple correct answer- Bradshaw threw a harder fastball than Allen. Elway too.
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Producer : 1/9/2021 6:23 pm : link
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with best guns I have seen.



Bradshaw had a nice arm but seriously it wasn't better than Marino, Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen or Stafford



Better? Different question.



well.. not in their class, I would say.



Different game. Stop changing the question.

Simple correct answer- Bradshaw threw a harder fastball than Allen. Elway too.


No he didn't. I watched his whole career. Excellent arm on that guy but no way did he throw a fastball like Allen or Elway, or Rodgers, or Mahomes or Herbert for that matter.
RE: Sonny Jurgenson..  
Mad Mike : 1/9/2021 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15116194 Big Blue '56 said:
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Also, in his early years, Norm Snead had a helluva arm

That's a deep cut, but yeah, Jurgensen really threw hard. And of course was a fine ancestor to our very own DJ in the rich history of Duke QB's.
i will say  
Producer : 1/9/2021 6:25 pm : link
Bradshaw might have had the best arm of that era and it got much better. He was a totally different QB 78-79 than he was 74-75. His arm got a lot better.
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Big Blue '56 : 1/9/2021 6:40 pm : link
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...including the late Steelers QB Joe Gilliam...


Yup
Joe Flacco had a gun  
Ira : 1/9/2021 6:43 pm : link
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RE: i will say  
LBH15 : 1/9/2021 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15116326 Producer said:
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Bradshaw might have had the best arm of that era and it got much better. He was a totally different QB 78-79 than he was 74-75. His arm got a lot better.


Ok, fine, my opinion stays same.
Rhett Bomar , draft class 2009, could throw a ball through a brick  
gtt350 : 1/9/2021 7:19 pm : link
wall.
never saw a harder thrower
Brett Favre  
KDavies : 1/9/2021 7:47 pm : link
Can’t believe he hasn’t been said
I’ll second and third for Bert Jones he threw them tight and  
NYRiese : 1/9/2021 8:08 pm : link
on a rope.
No one in the game right now  
nyballa0891 : 1/9/2021 8:29 pm : link
Has an arm like Josh Allen. The zip on his throws is ridiculous and no mahomes is not in the same class. With that said, just because you have an insane arm that does not make you the better qb..but talking pure arm strength?I think Josh Allen is clearly above all others in the league right now.
RE: Marino  
eric2425ny : 1/9/2021 9:29 pm : link
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+1, that dude had a cannon.
Doug Williams  
Jerry from Maine : 1/9/2021 10:56 pm : link
Dude had a cannon.
Jeff George  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/9/2021 11:49 pm : link
And Eric Kresser
RE: Doug Williams  
montanagiant : 1/10/2021 12:02 am : link
In comment 15116720 Jerry from Maine said:
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Dude had a cannon.

Good call
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