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Unpopular Opinion: Fade Allen Robinson, Kenny Golladay

BigBlueWC : 1/10/2021 9:30 am
I see a lot of talk about signing a stud WR like Allen Robinson or Kenny Golladay this offseason. In my opinion, we shouldn't sign either.

While Allen Robinson is a bonafide stud, he will command top dollar and will turn 28 before the season begins. Pass.

Kenny Golladay is another stud, when healthy, but really hasn't live up to the hype. He also couldn't stay (or even get) on the field this season to save his life. I'm not interested in shelling out a massive contract to an injury prone player that will turn 28 in November.

Given our draft position and the decent possibility that one of the top 3 WRs will be on the board at 11, I think there are far more sensible options to go after in FA.

My top target is Corey Davis. A stud coming out of college, tough as nails, productive (in a historically unfriendly passing O), and waiting for an opportunity to truly blossom. He would be a value signing relative to the others at the top of the market and is turning 26 tomorrow. I also think he would be a great cultural fit.

If we can't land Davis, I think we need to pursue Curtis Samuel. Young, explosive, and another relative value.

I've seen Marvin Jones' name tossed around (and he is a good player), but he will turn 31 in March. Hard pass for me.

I'd be okay with kicking the tires on John Ross, Keelan Cole, Nelson Agholor, Chris Conley, Rashard Higgins, Demarcus Robinson, and others, but I think we're looking to make a bigger splash than that.

If I'm DG, I'm fairly adamant I'm going out and getting Corey Davis or Curtis Samuel.
DG did try to  
section125 : 1/10/2021 9:35 am : link
go after Golladay, so I would not close the books on him. I hope he does not spend big money on a WR.
Curtis Samuel makes alot of sense  
George from PA : 1/10/2021 9:40 am : link
history with DG, known commodity

Completely agree with everything you said.  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/10/2021 9:41 am : link
Davis and Samuel would be my top two targets as well.

Age should be a huge emphasis when signing free agents.

Another name to think about is Kendrick Bourne. 6’1” and turns 26 in April. Underutilized in the San Francisco offense. Should be affordable, and has a knack for getting open and making plays.

With all this said, I still think that if one of the top 3 wide receivers in the draft (Smith, Chase, Waddle) makes it to 11, that would be the best value.
Just don’t see how we can sign a $20m WR along with $20m LW  
BillT : 1/10/2021 9:45 am : link
Doesn’t seem like we can afford that. I like getting one of the top 3 WR in the draft and if there gone one if the top couple of EDGE guys will be there. Buying Top FA WR is an expensive proposition.
I am also on board with Corey Davis  
blueblood : 1/10/2021 9:48 am : link
and maybe Logan Ryan can "recruit" a little
While I am not a proponent of spending big in FA  
robbieballs2003 : 1/10/2021 9:55 am : link
This is a great year to potentially do so. Most teams are going to be stingy with their money. Some teams aren't going to truly participate. The price tag will be low on a lot of players. There will be some great bargains in FA this year imo.
Davis isn’t coming cheap either  
BillT : 1/10/2021 9:55 am : link
Is it realistic to sign Williams, Tomlinson, and Davis. Are you not signing Tomlinson to sign Davis? Hate that idea. And the word I’ve heard around here is that he has suspect hands. Don’t like any big name FA WR. They are all overpriced. Draft them and have them reasonably cheap foe 4/5 years.
I have no idea what the love with Davis on board  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/10/2021 9:57 am : link
He isn’t good and certainly going to be overpaid based on this recent season which is more a function of what was going on around him. I thought he was gonna be a stud out of college, but really apparent he just bullies bad comp. None of that in NFL.
I think Golladay may not get a big deal because of his injury history  
Eric on Li : 1/10/2021 9:58 am : link
remember when Alshon Jeffrey went to the Eagles? Or when the Bears signed Allen Robinson because he was coming off an ACL?

I think Golladay may be gettable on a very fair deal. 3/45m or something like that with a potential opt out. I don't know the Lions cap situation and obviously they are going to go through a roster transition, but if he hits the open market I suspect he will be a guy who gets less than people think.

jmo but the NYG will end up with 1 of Godwin, Davis, or Golladay. Don't think they will go after Samuel or JJSS because they already have Shepard in the slot. It's a pretty good year to be shopping for a WR in FA.
I don’t want either guy  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/10/2021 10:03 am : link
Signing big name free agents is why we don’t have a ton of cap space with have a QB on a rookie deal. Keep building through the draft exclusively and re-sign our priority free agents
I don't know Robinso at all  
ZogZerg : 1/10/2021 10:06 am : link
other than his whining as a bear.
I don't want to pay that a ton of money.
Corey Davis is the most versatile, he would fit right in  
gtt350 : 1/10/2021 10:15 am : link
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oops my bad i meant Curtis samuel  
gtt350 : 1/10/2021 10:15 am : link
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Giants  
Sammo85 : 1/10/2021 10:45 am : link
can’t not bring in talent at WR. They honestly need at least two, maybe legit three options at WR and TE.

I think scheme was limited this year but diversity of options and game breaking talent was evident in our offensive troubles.

Golladay intrigues because he’s a bigger flanker type of receiver as is Robinson but there’s major risk with injury history and cost. I could see a Curtis Samuel and maybe a high draft pick in 1st or 2nd. Engram killed Jones this year and they need a big burly legit TE target to get the tough catches on 3rd down and in red zone.

I’m a big Corey Davis fan. I think he’s ready to break out and given Titans have to pay big and extend AJ Brown in another year not sure they can afford two huge contracts given they need to badly reinvest in their D (pass rush, secondary) too.
Golladay is my target  
eyerishyank : 1/10/2021 10:45 am : link
I see his production/injuries similar to the Plax situation in 2005. Hoping the injuries keep the price tag down a bit and his upside can really help Jones reach another level as Plax did for Eli. That wouldn't stop me from drafting a WR if one of the top 3 are available @11 overall. Hoping we can use remaining resources to draft/sign/trade an edge rusher and #2 CB. this is a year I'd be aggressive with restructures, etc to put the best team we can on the field - as another poor season will result in starting over at QB/GM.
RE: I think Golladay may not get a big deal because of his injury history  
Sammo85 : 1/10/2021 10:47 am : link
In comment 15116969 Eric on Li said:
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remember when Alshon Jeffrey went to the Eagles? Or when the Bears signed Allen Robinson because he was coming off an ACL?

I think Golladay may be gettable on a very fair deal. 3/45m or something like that with a potential opt out. I don't know the Lions cap situation and obviously they are going to go through a roster transition, but if he hits the open market I suspect he will be a guy who gets less than people think.

jmo but the NYG will end up with 1 of Godwin, Davis, or Golladay. Don't think they will go after Samuel or JJSS because they already have Shepard in the slot. It's a pretty good year to be shopping for a WR in FA.


I don’t see any way Bucs let Godwin leave. Big body, good route runner, great hands that helps with some issues with some limits on lateral movement and separation.
RE: While I am not a proponent of spending big in FA  
Simms11 : 1/10/2021 10:57 am : link
In comment 15116961 robbieballs2003 said:
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This is a great year to potentially do so. Most teams are going to be stingy with their money. Some teams aren't going to truly participate. The price tag will be low on a lot of players. There will be some great bargains in FA this year imo.


A lot of one year deals possibly too. When the cap goes back up, potentially the following year, those same FAs will be looking for their pay days!
RE: RE: I think Golladay may not get a big deal because of his injury history  
Simms11 : 1/10/2021 11:00 am : link
In comment 15117010 Sammo85 said:
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remember when Alshon Jeffrey went to the Eagles? Or when the Bears signed Allen Robinson because he was coming off an ACL?

I think Golladay may be gettable on a very fair deal. 3/45m or something like that with a potential opt out. I don't know the Lions cap situation and obviously they are going to go through a roster transition, but if he hits the open market I suspect he will be a guy who gets less than people think.

jmo but the NYG will end up with 1 of Godwin, Davis, or Golladay. Don't think they will go after Samuel or JJSS because they already have Shepard in the slot. It's a pretty good year to be shopping for a WR in FA.



I don’t see any way Bucs let Godwin leave. Big body, good route runner, great hands that helps with some issues with some limits on lateral movement and separation.


They’d have to franchise him to keep him. I can’t imagine, with all the salaries already on that team, that they’d be capable of doing that. They still have plenty of playmakers on that team even without Godwin. That said, I think Godwin would be a pretty big signing. He’s a great WR and is starting to hit his stride.
Lots of Free Agent WR  
Samiam : 1/10/2021 11:12 am : link
With the high number of free agents, isn’t it likely that the prices will go down? That’s especially true given the high number of really good WR prospects in the draft. It might take time for the free agents to deal with the reality of supply and demand. But, some good WRs might be available for less money than one would think. Or, they might sign a 1 year deal hoping next year will be better.
RE: Lots of Free Agent WR  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/10/2021 11:20 am : link
In comment 15117026 Samiam said:
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With the high number of free agents, isn’t it likely that the prices will go down? That’s especially true given the high number of really good WR prospects in the draft. It might take time for the free agents to deal with the reality of supply and demand. But, some good WRs might be available for less money than one would think. Or, they might sign a 1 year deal hoping next year will be better.


I think there's gonna be a good value on the high end wide receivers in free agency this year. Not only do a lot a lot of teams not have cap room there's also been 2 drafts in a row now with a lot of receiver tablet.
eyeballing the Bucs cap situation they have a few other big FAs to be  
Eric on Li : 1/10/2021 11:20 am : link
Shaq Barrett and Lavonte David being the other 2 big ones in addition to Godwin. Also AB and Gronk but who knows if they retire. Suh too.

They project to have $17m in effective cap space so a franchise tag seems difficult to accommodate for any of them but if they did I'd guess Lavonte David would be most likely. I'm sure like most teams they can cut players to save some money but there's only 2 players on their roster who would save them $8m+ and they're starters on the OL so it would seem unlikely (Donovan Smith + Ryan Jensen).

With Evans and some interesting young guys I'd guess they let Godwin walk unless he's signing a very reasonable extension. Gotta think they are going to be more likely to put resources into their defensive free agents.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/tampa-bay-buccaneers/ - ( New Window )
Keep saying it  
djm : 1/10/2021 11:48 am : link
Don’t just look at this year’s cap space, which can be misleading to begin with but look at the cap space or financials beyond this season. It opens up even more so. Plus, if/when they sign Williams his first year hit can he as low as needed.

Giants are going to devote financial resources to the offense. They absolutely have to. There is next to no high priced offensive talent on this team save for zietler and solder and both aren’t in the long term plan.

If Godwin springs free the giants will be all over him like a cheap(expensive ) suit. I’m curious about Antonio brown’s contract with Tampa. If he’s got another year there maybe they feel inclined to let Godwin walk. One can only hope.
I agree with you  
GGGmen : 1/10/2021 11:51 am : link
Corey Davis would look good in Blue. Plus, he will cost a lot less. I would sign him and possibly draft Waddle or Smith. Instant offensive upgrades.
Agree with the OP  
eric2425ny : 1/10/2021 12:01 pm : link
100%. I wouldn’t be pissed to see us sign Robinson or Golladay, but it doesn’t seem like a wise use of cap dollars unless they find a creative way to structure it.
RE: Keep saying it  
eric2425ny : 1/10/2021 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15117058 djm said:
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Don’t just look at this year’s cap space, which can be misleading to begin with but look at the cap space or financials beyond this season. It opens up even more so. Plus, if/when they sign Williams his first year hit can he as low as needed.

Giants are going to devote financial resources to the offense. They absolutely have to. There is next to no high priced offensive talent on this team save for zietler and solder and both aren’t in the long term plan.

If Godwin springs free the giants will be all over him like a cheap(expensive ) suit. I’m curious about Antonio brown’s contract with Tampa. If he’s got another year there maybe they feel inclined to let Godwin walk. One can only hope.


I’m not completely sold on Godwin. I know he has had injury issues this year, but I was expecting him to thrive with Brady in the Welker/Edelman type role and it really hasn’t happened. I also don’t know that his style is what we need on the roster right now. He’s still a guy who likes up in the slot quite a bit. I’d like to see us either get a big body type guy that we can lob it up to on those corner fades or a speedster Tyreek Hill type like Waddle from Alabama.
RE: Corey Davis is the most versatile, he would fit right in  
Mdgiantsfan : 1/10/2021 12:17 pm : link
In comment 15116987 gtt350 said:
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He's at the top of the list for me followed by Golladay. Golladay's injury history scares me, but I like his talent. Corey would be a homerun, but at what cost. I'm afraid he's going to have a big price tag.
Methinks the OP throws around the word  
Section331 : 1/10/2021 12:17 pm : link
“Stud” too often. I don’t see Robinson or Gollaway as studs. I don’t think either is a #1 on a good team, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be valuable additions. About the only use of stud that I would agree with is Corey Davis at W Mich, but it is a mid-tier D1 program.

I’d be surprised if any of these guys get close to $20M, and if they do, walk away. Corey Davis would be a good get, all things being equal, he’d be my 2nd choice of the 3 (Gollaway’s injury history concerns me). Robinson is my first choice, not a burner by any means, but tall, strong and tough. He is a gamer.

Also wouldn’t write in ink that the Giants go WR at 11. There are other needs as well, ER, CB, OL, so I think DG will go for the best player out of those 4 position groups. He cannot, howeve, completely ignore the WR position again.
This draft is so key  
jpkmets : 1/10/2021 12:33 pm : link
Ideally we find a very straight-line fast and a very physically big target in days 2 and 3. Don’t think we have the cap to address WR through FA and agree with OP that top available targets don’t seem worth it. Do hope they unearth true vertical outside threats thus draft. Be a great compliment to returning sb.

Absent Barkley, the offense really lacked speed. That led to a lot of congestion. Finding a bona fide field stretching threat is the biggest offensive need, IMO.
RE: RE: Keep saying it  
djm : 1/10/2021 1:19 pm : link
In comment 15117077 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 15117058 djm said:


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Don’t just look at this year’s cap space, which can be misleading to begin with but look at the cap space or financials beyond this season. It opens up even more so. Plus, if/when they sign Williams his first year hit can he as low as needed.

Giants are going to devote financial resources to the offense. They absolutely have to. There is next to no high priced offensive talent on this team save for zietler and solder and both aren’t in the long term plan.

If Godwin springs free the giants will be all over him like a cheap(expensive ) suit. I’m curious about Antonio brown’s contract with Tampa. If he’s got another year there maybe they feel inclined to let Godwin walk. One can only hope.



I’m not completely sold on Godwin. I know he has had injury issues this year, but I was expecting him to thrive with Brady in the Welker/Edelman type role and it really hasn’t happened. I also don’t know that his style is what we need on the roster right now. He’s still a guy who likes up in the slot quite a bit. I’d like to see us either get a big body type guy that we can lob it up to on those corner fades or a speedster Tyreek Hill type like Waddle from Alabama.


I hear you Godwin isn’t exactly the big target but I thought I saw something that said he can and will win on the outside enough to feel good about him.

Corey Davis might work too as he’s more a potential and less money type and he’s a giant target. Not sure how good he is though. He wasn’t exactly held back the last two years with tannenhill under center. And his production was just ok.
RE: Methinks the OP throws around the word  
BigBlueWC : 1/10/2021 1:22 pm : link
In comment 15117092 Section331 said:
[quote] “Stud” too often. I don’t see Robinson or Gollaway as studs. I don’t think either is a #1 on a good team, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be valuable additions. About the only use of stud that I would agree with is Corey Davis at W Mich, but it is a mid-tier D1 program."

Haha fair criticism, even if 100% subjective. I completely disagree however, that neither couldn't be a #1 WR on a good team.
Godwin  
allstarjim : 1/10/2021 2:12 pm : link
Is my first choice, Davis next. Samuel to me doesn't really fit what we need.

This team needs a guy outside who can win 50-50 balls. Samuel is a gadget guy who would excel in the slot. We have enough slot guys.

Curtis Samuel???  
MtDizzle : 1/10/2021 2:16 pm : link
Jesus this fan base has accepted mediocrity just like ownership. What has happened to my Giants!?? Good grief.
RE: Curtis Samuel???  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/10/2021 2:30 pm : link
In comment 15117262 MtDizzle said:
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Jesus this fan base has accepted mediocrity just like ownership. What has happened to my Giants!?? Good grief.


You don’t want to pay aging players for past production. The key to free agency is finding players who are about to break out.

Curtis Samuel fits this description. He has improved on his catches in yards every single season since he has been drafted. He had 77 catches for 851 yards on a weak Carolina team that played with their starting QB due to injury for stretches last season.

Hey may not be the flashy signing, but he would certainly help this weak offense. At only 24 years old, he is just starting to scratch the surface of his potential.
Corey Davis?!?!?!  
AdamBrag : 1/10/2021 2:38 pm : link
He was complete trash for his first 3 seasons. He's pretty terrible against physical CBs or if he's pressed. He will probably get $10m+ a year and he didn't even have 1,000 yards receiving this year.
I guess I disagree - I think we need a valid #1 guy  
PatersonPlank : 1/10/2021 3:03 pm : link
We have a full array of #2, slots, etc. We need a goto, dependable top guy. I think Robinson absolutely fits the bill if we go the FA route. This would allow us to take a CB/Edge BPA at #11.
RE: I guess I disagree - I think we need a valid #1 guy  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/10/2021 3:21 pm : link
In comment 15117326 PatersonPlank said:
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We have a full array of #2, slots, etc. We need a goto, dependable top guy. I think Robinson absolutely fits the bill if we go the FA route. This would allow us to take a CB/Edge BPA at #11.


The problem is #1 WR’s rarely hit the open market. And when they do, they get paid handsomely.

That is why I think they’d be better off drafting one of the top 3 WR’s (Smith, Chase, Waddle) at #11, and sign an edge rusher and CB.

It would really help if we knew what Sam Beal is capable of....
Davis currently on...  
Ryan : 1/10/2021 3:40 pm : link
...the sideline with his helmet off after being held catchless as the Titans are on their last gasp. This 2 weeks after being held catchless by Jaire Alexander.
Hit post too soon...  
Ryan : 1/10/2021 3:43 pm : link
Not sure if he's hurt or what but he has this lingering stink fo someone who just rarely makes much of an impact against good competition. I think he's headed for a 1-yr deal.
RE: RE: Curtis Samuel???  
chopperhatch : 1/10/2021 4:54 pm : link
In comment 15117284 Vin_Cuccs said:
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Jesus this fan base has accepted mediocrity just like ownership. What has happened to my Giants!?? Good grief.



You don’t want to pay aging players for past production. The key to free agency is finding players who are about to break out.

Curtis Samuel fits this description. He has improved on his catches in yards every single season since he has been drafted. He had 77 catches for 851 yards on a weak Carolina team that played with their starting QB due to injury for stretches last season.

Hey may not be the flashy signing, but he would certainly help this weak offense. At only 24 years old, he is just starting to scratch the surface of his potential.


Agree with you. The underneath stuff alone he could turn into huge YAC. He has 4.3 speed and is a very solidly built 5'11 200 lber. I would love to sign him to a mid range contract after bringing back DT and LW. Then draft a bigger wide receiver.
RE: RE: I guess I disagree - I think we need a valid #1 guy  
PatersonPlank : 1/10/2021 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15117351 Vin_Cuccs said:
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We have a full array of #2, slots, etc. We need a goto, dependable top guy. I think Robinson absolutely fits the bill if we go the FA route. This would allow us to take a CB/Edge BPA at #11.



The problem is #1 WR’s rarely hit the open market. And when they do, they get paid handsomely.

That is why I think they’d be better off drafting one of the top 3 WR’s (Smith, Chase, Waddle) at #11, and sign an edge rusher and CB.

It would really help if we knew what Sam Beal is capable of....


I agree that if we don't sign a top FA WR, then we definitely should use our 1st or 2nd rd pick on a WR. Its a glaring hole for us. It comes down to who will be there at #11 really.
id be ok with marvin  
GiantsFan84 : 1/10/2021 5:33 pm : link
he showed this year he can still play. but it'd have to be a 1-2 year deal. he's significantly better than what they currently have

hard pass on samuel. they need an outside guy that can win 1-1s. that's NOT samuel
No FA WRs  
WillVAB : 1/10/2021 5:39 pm : link
I wouldn’t waste any FA dollars on WR. There’s too many good WRs coming out of college now pro ready. FA dollars will be better spent on our own along with a corner.
Godwin....  
EricJ : 1/10/2021 5:48 pm : link
is a true professional and shows up every Sunday. He also does not have stretches where is disappears like others mentioned in this thread.
The only guy I see as a true potential stud WR  
Scuzzlebutt : 1/10/2021 6:07 pm : link
Is Golladay... assuming he can stay healthy. All the other guys are decent, but not worth top dollar. With that said I am not a big fan of spending big bucks on FA WRs.
i agree w other posters  
GiantsFan84 : 1/10/2021 6:39 pm : link
i'd rather spend the 20M on OL or DEF. use the draft for WR
RE: RE: RE: Curtis Samuel???  
MtDizzle : 1/10/2021 9:16 pm : link
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Jesus this fan base has accepted mediocrity just like ownership. What has happened to my Giants!?? Good grief.



You don’t want to pay aging players for past production. The key to free agency is finding players who are about to break out.

Curtis Samuel fits this description. He has improved on his catches in yards every single season since he has been drafted. He had 77 catches for 851 yards on a weak Carolina team that played with their starting QB due to injury for stretches last season.

Hey may not be the flashy signing, but he would certainly help this weak offense. At only 24 years old, he is just starting to scratch the surface of his potential.



Agree with you. The underneath stuff alone he could turn into huge YAC. He has 4.3 speed and is a very solidly built 5'11 200 lber. I would love to sign him to a mid range contract after bringing back DT and LW. Then draft a bigger wide receiver.


He’s a nice player but mostly productive out of the slot. We have guys that can do that. We need a TRUE #1 PLAYMAKER.
I cant help feeling  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/11/2021 12:07 am : link
that retaining Williams and Tomlinson is more important than spending big at WR.

I've said it many times; cluster draft at WR. Keep the defense together. Get a CB in the first 2 rounds if the value is there.

TE also needs to be addressed just as much as WR. A TE with reliable hands would help this offense immediately.
I'd rather draft wide receivers  
Go Terps : 1/11/2021 12:10 am : link
There are tons of them coming out of college now.

But if they insist on paying for one, get someone you know is good...Robinson. He's the best of the bunch. Better to pay him $20M than to pay Corey Davis $12M. It's an overpay, but at least you solve the #1 WR spot. Bringing in Davis doesn't even improve the position.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Curtis Samuel???  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 12:47 am : link
In comment 15117923 MtDizzle said:
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Jesus this fan base has accepted mediocrity just like ownership. What has happened to my Giants!?? Good grief.



You don’t want to pay aging players for past production. The key to free agency is finding players who are about to break out.

Curtis Samuel fits this description. He has improved on his catches in yards every single season since he has been drafted. He had 77 catches for 851 yards on a weak Carolina team that played with their starting QB due to injury for stretches last season.

Hey may not be the flashy signing, but he would certainly help this weak offense. At only 24 years old, he is just starting to scratch the surface of his potential.



Agree with you. The underneath stuff alone he could turn into huge YAC. He has 4.3 speed and is a very solidly built 5'11 200 lber. I would love to sign him to a mid range contract after bringing back DT and LW. Then draft a bigger wide receiver.



He’s a nice player but mostly productive out of the slot. We have guys that can do that. We need a TRUE #1 PLAYMAKER.


I disagree. He has Santana Moss speed and leaping ability. I think could be a similar deep threat in addition to the crossing stuff.

Again, we are talking mid level guys and dollars. Grab him to be a guy to help Slayton stretch the field and then get a biggish receiver in the draft.

Spending hige dollars on a WR that has injury concerns, age concerns or trouble with being consistent is a far worse approach. Samuel would be fine as a Y with whom you can do things running the ball as well.
Ha  
santacruzom : 1/11/2021 3:06 am : link
According to Wikipedia, Golladay is already on the Giants!
Curtis Samuel  
RetroJint : 1/11/2021 8:56 am : link
From his Ohio State days , the problem has been how to utilize his explosiveness . He’s really a wing back type -prehistoric flanker . Those guys used to get the cross-buck misdirection plays . Samuel isn’t an accomplished route runner .

As for the others , as noted above you are moving those receivers up in pay scale , mis-categorizing them as #1s.

John Mara has had way too much to say about personnel (JJ Jernigan , etc) over these forlorn years . I could see them entering the chase for Robinson . But that would merely exacerbate other problems .

I think Giant fans are going to be very disappointed with the team’s activity this coming UFA signing period . I think they will get Tomlinson done . No one else .
Retro beat me to the key count  
JonC : 1/11/2021 9:00 am : link
I'd be very careful labeling any of these WRs as legit #1's especially in the sense they're worth $20M per. They're not, and all have considerable warts for the money required.

I'd draft and develop my own WRs, CBs, and Edges at this point and pick my UFA spots very carefully. The UFA "answers" aren't worth the money or risk.
RE: Davis currently on...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/11/2021 9:02 am : link
In comment 15117375 Ryan said:
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...the sideline with his helmet off after being held catchless as the Titans are on their last gasp. This 2 weeks after being held catchless by Jaire Alexander.


Exactly. I feel like I'm drinking crazy juice when people throw out Davis name. He's been underwhelming so far in his career and disappears in big spots. I watched a couple of Titans games this year (when Davis stock is supposedly rising), and he did nothing against GB and did nothing yesterday and wasn't even in the game on the final drive.

I just looked at his stats and he had 3 or fewer catches in 6 games. Had 0 catches in 3 games. That's terrible.
RE: Retro beat me to the key count  
Section331 : 1/11/2021 9:08 am : link
In comment 15118285 JonC said:
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I'd be very careful labeling any of these WRs as legit #1's especially in the sense they're worth $20M per. They're not, and all have considerable warts for the money required.

I'd draft and develop my own WRs, CBs, and Edges at this point and pick my UFA spots very carefully. The UFA "answers" aren't worth the money or risk.


Yeah, I agree that none of the guys mentioned are #1's, but that is OK, as long as they are paid accordingly. As I said earlier, I think Godwin will be the WR that gets a big payday, we'll see what happens with the others.

Allen Robinson has 200 catches, 2500 yds and 13 TD's over the past 2 seasons with an awful QB situation. If the price is right, I'd love to bring him on board. The best way to get a game-breaking WR is in the draft, but you can't expect them to contribute right away.

Bringing in a reasonably priced vet can be a bridge to drafting WR's and getting them to the point where they can produce.
Davis stinks  
JonC : 1/11/2021 9:08 am : link
no clue why the constant interest in him.

If they absolutely must sign a WR, it should be Robinson. Bet on him being better with some talent around him versus the offensive talent desert in Chicago.
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