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NFT: Getting the Pfizer vaccine

Go Giants : 1/10/2021 6:32 pm
this coming Saturday. I am very excited. Turns out that I am “essential” since I work w kids. Has anyone been vaccinated yet who can speak to the side effects?
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Moderna vaccine  
cjac : 1/10/2021 6:36 pm : link
Gives you one really bad day. I don’t know about Pfizer
I got it two weeks ago.  
Jerz44 : 1/10/2021 6:45 pm : link
Little bit of fatigue the next day but it could have just been my kids keeping me up last night.

I get my 2nd dose on Thursday. Heard the second one is worse.

Side bar, not sure why but I posted after I got vaccinated and the post was deleted almost immediately.
I get the vaccine on Tuesday  
superspynyg : 1/10/2021 6:45 pm : link
Not sure which one though.
The Shingrix vaccine hit me really hard  
US1 Giants : 1/10/2021 6:52 pm : link
both shots. I am not looking forward to going through that again with this one. I'll have to plan on being in bed the whole next day after this vaccine. Hope for a better experience.
My sister and brother-in-law got it and had no effects  
steve in ky : 1/10/2021 6:54 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/10/2021 6:56 pm : link
You lucky SOB. Stick this COVID vaccine into my veins STAT.
My daughter got both doses of Pfizer vaccines  
George from PA : 1/10/2021 7:07 pm : link
She is an icu charge nurse.....went well
RE: My daughter got both doses of Pfizer vaccines  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/10/2021 7:09 pm : link
In comment 15117694 George from PA said:
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She is an icu charge nurse.....went well


God bless her.
Vaccine  
BigWiggle95 : 1/10/2021 7:28 pm : link
My wife and mother-in-law got their first shot of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday. My father got his first shot of the Moderna vaccine earlier today. My wife's arm was sore the first day. No effects today. My father hasn't had any effects whatsoever so far.
Had my second Pfizer dose  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/10/2021 7:41 pm : link
Friday. Yesterday I had chills, fever of 102, major headache, muscle aches, everything. Around 5 pm I took some Tylenol and was totally fine 90 min later. Today I feel like a million bucks.
Just had shingles at 56  
Payasdaddy : 1/10/2021 7:42 pm : link
2 weeks before my hip revision
Worth getting vaccine if I had it already?
Wife just got her 2nd Pfizer shot today
Little bit of a sore arm, tingling , itchy throat for a little
But nothing worth noting
I am phase 1c ( other essential workers)  
Payasdaddy : 1/10/2021 7:43 pm : link
Any ideas when I should be able to get that?
My hope is end of March in California
Wishful thinking?
Got the 1st moderna shot on wednesday  
RodneyHamp : 1/10/2021 7:45 pm : link
Only a day or 2 of soreness, think flu shot soreness amped way up. No other side effects for me.
My sister got it  
Daniel in MI : 1/10/2021 7:45 pm : link
Soreness for a day in the arm, that’s it.
Got the first Pfizer dose this past Tuesday  
j_rud : 1/10/2021 7:56 pm : link
Felt fine but I was surprised at how sore my shoulder got. I mean it wasnt awful but it was noticeable. Just glad to have gotten it.
My mom  
darren in pdx : 1/10/2021 8:00 pm : link
has gotten both of her shots as she works as an ER tech. She said she had no side-effects aside from the normal pain in the arm where the shot was administered.
My wife  
SJGiant : 1/10/2021 8:17 pm : link
Was sick for 3 to 4 days from the first Moderna shot. She even went for two COVID tests to rule that out. Better now. Will be prepared when second shot us given.
I am sure it is different for everyone but  
SomeFan : 1/10/2021 8:39 pm : link
my sister in law is a home healthcare nurse and the first Pfizer injection she said was like a flu shot. It made her arm sore like a flu shot but no other noticeable issues. Interestingly, she has also had Covid with very mild symptons and is 60 years old.
I will have no hesitation about getting it  
Giant John : 1/10/2021 8:40 pm : link
If my turn ever comes around.. I live in NJ and really don’t see much about any plan. This should be highly publicized.
Adverse effects may not show up for years  
chiro56 : 1/10/2021 8:42 pm : link
M-RNA vaccine is a new and different vaccine.
Pfizer vaccine  
floridafan : 1/10/2021 9:01 pm : link
I can only speak to my experience.
Jackson Memorial opened up to over 65 last Tuesday.
I clicked on the site and scheduled an appt for the following day.
I got there a half hour early and they were running ahead of schedule so they took me.
It was a smooth process and took about a half an hour start to finish.
The last thing they do is make you wait 15 minutes before you leave.
I have not had any after effects.
Good luck with yours!
RE: I get the vaccine on Tuesday  
section125 : 1/10/2021 9:02 pm : link
In comment 15117666 superspynyg said:
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Not sure which one though.


If going back in three weeks - Pfizer

If going back in 4 weeks - Moderna
Based in the times calculator  
oghwga : 1/10/2021 9:03 pm : link
I am number 258 million on the list but I'll get it when my turn comes.

And chiro take your bullshit somewhere else
RE: The Shingrix vaccine hit me really hard  
section125 : 1/10/2021 9:04 pm : link
In comment 15117673 US1 Giants said:
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both shots. I am not looking forward to going through that again with this one. I'll have to plan on being in bed the whole next day after this vaccine. Hope for a better experience.


Yeah, Shingrix made me a little punky the next day and arm sore three days. Worse 2nd shot then 1st. Took and Advil at felt better in an hour and a half.
RE: Adverse effects may not show up for years  
beatrixkiddo : 1/10/2021 9:07 pm : link
In comment 15117848 chiro56 said:
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M-RNA vaccine is a new and different vaccine.


Exactly, huge no thanks for me. Rushed vaccine, no animal trials, total violation of Nuremberg codes. Really hope the best for all you that have elected to get it and hope it works, but I’m not going to be a human guinea pig.
RE: Based in the times calculator  
section125 : 1/10/2021 9:07 pm : link
In comment 15117899 oghwga said:
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I am number 258 million on the list but I'll get it when my turn comes.

And chiro take your bullshit somewhere else


Ha, I'm 4 months short of 65 and the calculator says I am # 17.4 mill in FL with a Population of 22 mill and like 268 mill in the US...
And beatrix gfy  
oghwga : 1/10/2021 9:14 pm : link
With your fake facebook need Nuremberg codes bullshit. God damnit I'm starting to hate america and it's lack of critical thinking ability
Conspiracy uneducated  
oghwga : 1/10/2021 9:16 pm : link
Drivel spreading nonsense is why we can't have nice things.
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RE: Adverse effects may not show up for years  
Jim in Fairfax : 1/10/2021 9:17 pm : link
In comment 15117848 chiro56 said:
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M-RNA vaccine is a new and different vaccine.

That’s just speculation on your part. There’s nothing to indicate that. The vaccine has a short half life and does not persist in your system.
RE: RE: Adverse effects may not show up for years  
section125 : 1/10/2021 9:17 pm : link
In comment 15117913 beatrixkiddo said:
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M-RNA vaccine is a new and different vaccine.



Exactly, huge no thanks for me. Rushed vaccine, no animal trials, total violation of Nuremberg codes. Really hope the best for all you that have elected to get it and hope it works, but I’m not going to be a human guinea pig.


Geezus. It is using known technology that has been around 15 or 20 years. That is why it was developed so fast.

Good the more idiots that don't get it means those that want it get t sooner.
RE: And beatrix gfy  
beatrixkiddo : 1/10/2021 9:24 pm : link
In comment 15117920 oghwga said:
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With your fake facebook need Nuremberg codes bullshit. God damnit I'm starting to hate america and it's lack of critical thinking ability


Haha. Man I’m dying here laughing at how much irony there is in your rant. Usually takes 10years minimum to develop a normalvaccine safely Fact. Rushed vaccinne that uses experimental never before tested technology, check. Skips animal trials and normal safety checks , check. You can be a Human guinea pig, but not sure why your mad at me for just stating the truth.
RE: RE: Adverse effects may not show up for years  
Bob from Massachusetts : 1/10/2021 9:26 pm : link
Interesting and completely inaccurate comment. RNAs are used quite a bit in medicine nowadays, and they are fine, but I agree there is some uncertainty longterm.

Actually there were animal trials. Furthermore there has been quite a bit of work with this type of vaccine (mRNA, Coronavirus, Ab vs the spike protein). This allowed rapid preclinical development. Was it rushed? Heck yeah!

Nuremburg codes? You've got to be kidding. I would think the results with 95% efficacy and excellent safety would be affirming on that one.

I will grant that there is some uncertainty about long-term safety, but the risk is quite small and is mostly used as an excuse by people who want to scare others or are so distrustful of medicine that they will use that as their excuse. You don't have to trust anybody and you don't have to get a vaccine, but all the experts including the independent panel that reviewed the data were all supportive.

In comment 15117913 beatrixkiddo said:
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M-RNA vaccine is a new and different vaccine.



Exactly, huge no thanks for me. Rushed vaccine, no animal trials, total violation of Nuremberg codes. Really hope the best for all you that have elected to get it and hope it works, but I’m not going to be a human guinea pig.
RE: RE: Adverse effects may not show up for years  
Bob from Massachusetts : 1/10/2021 9:26 pm : link
Interesting and completely inaccurate comment. RNAs are used quite a bit in medicine nowadays, and they are fine, but I agree there is some uncertainty longterm.

Actually there were animal trials. Furthermore there has been quite a bit of work with this type of vaccine (mRNA, Coronavirus, Ab vs the spike protein). This allowed rapid preclinical development. Was it rushed? Heck yeah!

Nuremburg codes? You've got to be kidding. I would think the results with 95% efficacy and excellent safety would be affirming on that one.

I will grant that there is some uncertainty about long-term safety, but the risk is quite small and is mostly used as an excuse by people who want to scare others or are so distrustful of medicine that they will use that as their excuse. You don't have to trust anybody and you don't have to get a vaccine, but all the experts including the independent panel that reviewed the data were all supportive.

In comment 15117913 beatrixkiddo said:
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In comment 15117848 chiro56 said:


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M-RNA vaccine is a new and different vaccine.



Exactly, huge no thanks for me. Rushed vaccine, no animal trials, total violation of Nuremberg codes. Really hope the best for all you that have elected to get it and hope it works, but I’m not going to be a human guinea pig.
To those who question the long term effects of the vaccine....  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/10/2021 9:27 pm : link
Please tell me the long term effects of the virus....
Please explain the  
oghwga : 1/10/2021 9:27 pm : link
Nuremberg codes to me and how it applies to the vaccines.

I'll wait.
RE: RE: RE: Adverse effects may not show up for years  
section125 : 1/10/2021 9:32 pm : link
In comment 15117945 Bob from Massachusetts said:
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Interesting and completely inaccurate comment. RNAs are used quite a bit in medicine nowadays, and they are fine, but I agree there is some uncertainty longterm.

Actually there were animal trials. Furthermore there has been quite a bit of work with this type of vaccine (mRNA, Coronavirus, Ab vs the spike protein). This allowed rapid preclinical development. Was it rushed? Heck yeah!

Nuremburg codes? You've got to be kidding. I would think the results with 95% efficacy and excellent safety would be affirming on that one.

I will grant that there is some uncertainty about long-term safety, but the risk is quite small and is mostly used as an excuse by people who want to scare others or are so distrustful of medicine that they will use that as their excuse. You don't have to trust anybody and you don't have to get a vaccine, but all the experts including the independent panel that reviewed the data were all supportive.



Thank you Bob...anti-vaxxers are a public safety hazard
RE: RE: And beatrix gfy  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/10/2021 9:33 pm : link
In comment 15117941 beatrixkiddo said:
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With your fake facebook need Nuremberg codes bullshit. God damnit I'm starting to hate america and it's lack of critical thinking ability



Haha. Man I’m dying here laughing at how much irony there is in your rant. Usually takes 10years minimum to develop a normalvaccine safely Fact. Rushed vaccinne that uses experimental never before tested technology, check. Skips animal trials and normal safety checks , check. You can be a Human guinea pig, but not sure why your mad at me for just stating the truth.


What other vaccine trial had people lining up to volunteer by the droves? Do you know how hard it is to get 40,000 volunteers to take an experimental vaccine? For the Covid vaccine, it was so highly publicized that people were lining up and it took weeks to get the 40,000 as opposed to month, years....
RE: RE: And beatrix gfy  
Bob from Massachusetts : 1/10/2021 9:33 pm : link
Actually the guinea pigs were the close to 100,000 people who volunteered for the trials. Some of those people were randomized to placebo and haven't gotten vaccinated yet. The preclinical part was really fast because a lot of work had already been done with prior coronaviruses and RNA viruses. The clinical trials went fast because everything was expedited by everyone for obvious reasons and there were so f'in' many people who got infected.

I do clinical research for a living (altho not for vaccines) and the clinical trial results were quite good and very transparent. I read the entire Pfizer briefing book for the FDA Ad Board mtg and much of the Moderna one. The data was very impressive

In comment 15117941 beatrixkiddo said:
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With your fake facebook need Nuremberg codes bullshit. God damnit I'm starting to hate america and it's lack of critical thinking ability



Haha. Man I’m dying here laughing at how much irony there is in your rant. Usually takes 10years minimum to develop a normalvaccine safely Fact. Rushed vaccinne that uses experimental never before tested technology, check. Skips animal trials and normal safety checks , check. You can be a Human guinea pig, but not sure why your mad at me for just stating the truth.
RE: RE: RE: And beatrix gfy  
section125 : 1/10/2021 9:38 pm : link
In comment 15117955 Bob from Massachusetts said:
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Actually the guinea pigs were the close to 100,000 people who volunteered for the trials. Some of those people were randomized to placebo and haven't gotten vaccinated yet. The preclinical part was really fast because a lot of work had already been done with prior coronaviruses and RNA viruses. The clinical trials went fast because everything was expedited by everyone for obvious reasons and there were so f'in' many people who got infected.

I do clinical research for a living (altho not for vaccines) and the clinical trial results were quite good and very transparent. I read the entire Pfizer briefing book for the FDA Ad Board mtg and much of the Moderna one. The data was very impressive

In comment 15117941 beatrixkiddo said:


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In comment 15117920 oghwga said:


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With your fake facebook need Nuremberg codes bullshit. God damnit I'm starting to hate america and it's lack of critical thinking ability



Haha. Man I’m dying here laughing at how much irony there is in your rant. Usually takes 10years minimum to develop a normalvaccine safely Fact. Rushed vaccinne that uses experimental never before tested technology, check. Skips animal trials and normal safety checks , check. You can be a Human guinea pig, but not sure why your mad at me for just stating the truth.



Let's see the snappy come backs from chiro and beatrix on that....
RE: RE: Adverse effects may not show up for years  
Bob from Massachusetts : 1/10/2021 9:40 pm : link
I will concede that there is some uncertainty about long-term effects of an RNA vaccine, (RNA can be translated to DNA and get into your cells), but the risk is small in comparison to the hundreds of thousands of deaths from Covid. The long-term risk should be small. And this type of vaccine is totally new and for it to be used in upwards of a billion people, one has to concede some element of uncertainty. But it has been extensively tested, data looks excellent and the risk is much lower to get it than to not.

In comment 15117928 Jim in Fairfax said:
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M-RNA vaccine is a new and different vaccine.


That’s just speculation on your part. There’s nothing to indicate that. The vaccine has a short half life and does not persist in your system.
RE: RE: RE: RE: And beatrix gfy  
beatrixkiddo : 1/10/2021 9:57 pm : link
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Actually the guinea pigs were the close to 100,000 people who volunteered for the trials. Some of those people were randomized to placebo and haven't gotten vaccinated yet. The preclinical part was really fast because a lot of work had already been done with prior coronaviruses and RNA viruses. The clinical trials went fast because everything was expedited by everyone for obvious reasons and there were so f'in' many people who got infected.

I do clinical research for a living (altho not for vaccines) and the clinical trial results were quite good and very transparent. I read the entire Pfizer briefing book for the FDA Ad Board mtg and much of the Moderna one. The data was very impressive

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In comment 15117920 oghwga said:


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With your fake facebook need Nuremberg codes bullshit. God damnit I'm starting to hate america and it's lack of critical thinking ability



Haha. Man I’m dying here laughing at how much irony there is in your rant. Usually takes 10years minimum to develop a normalvaccine safely Fact. Rushed vaccinne that uses experimental never before tested technology, check. Skips animal trials and normal safety checks , check. You can be a Human guinea pig, but not sure why your mad at me for just stating the truth.





Let's see the snappy come backs from chiro and beatrix on that....


@section125 - I don’t post to get into pissing matches and flex my keyboard muscles with people here. So why don’t you temper your hostilities.

@ Bob - again no long term side effects have been conducted, projection is merely that, projection. Doing this on a large scale is incredibly risky IMO. Of course big pharma is going to right glowing reviews on a product they produce that will make them billions. Horrible side effects,no worries they have been granted blanket legal immunity. Get sick from taking the shot, great you can take their next solution to fix you up on the crap they made you sick with. Win-win. The regulatory agencies (FDA, etc.) are horse shit, these people on these boards all come from the pharmaceutical companies they are now supposed to regulate, That doesn’t worry you? Ok.
Still waiting  
oghwga : 1/10/2021 10:05 pm : link
For the Nuremberg code and vaccine explanation
RE: Just had shingles at 56  
Les in TO : 1/10/2021 10:06 pm : link
In comment 15117746 Payasdaddy said:
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2 weeks before my hip revision
Worth getting vaccine if I had it already?
Wife just got her 2nd Pfizer shot today
Little bit of a sore arm, tingling , itchy throat for a little
But nothing worth noting
you would need to wait for a year or so but you can get shingles more than once. I had a rare form of shingles last year that caused facial paralysis and hearing loss. I would not wish that on anyone
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: And beatrix gfy  
section125 : 1/10/2021 10:12 pm : link
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@section125 - I don’t post to get into pissing matches and flex my keyboard muscles with people here. So why don’t you temper your hostilities.

@ Bob - again no long term side effects have been conducted, projection is merely that, projection. Doing this on a large scale is incredibly risky IMO. Of course big pharma is going to right glowing reviews on a product they produce that will make them billions. Horrible side effects,no worries they have been granted blanket legal immunity. Get sick from taking the shot, great you can take their next solution to fix you up on the crap they made you sick with. Win-win. The regulatory agencies (FDA, etc.) are horse shit, these people on these boards all come from the pharmaceutical companies they are now supposed to regulate, That doesn’t worry you? Ok.


This isn't twitter there is no "@" needed.
Ok so you come on here dealing ignorant shit, so who is being hostile.

If you don't want the shot, that is up to you, but don't go spreading falsehoods.


RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: And beatrix gfy  
Bob from Massachusetts : 1/10/2021 10:18 pm : link
I get it you don't trust pharma companies. And some are untrustworthy, so there's that. But most are responsible, and essentially all are super-scared about getting caught (which does happen) mis-representing data.

You of course are wrong that all the people on independent panels are from pharma companies, they're mostly from academia. There are super-strict rules about disclosure of payment to physicians, and if you get caught mis-representing you can go to jail.

The people from FDA drive me crazy sometimes, but they are competent, not paid very well, and are stuck between complaints about approving things too quickly and too slowly, both due to public pressure.

I was an academic physician who went into pharma. Did I compromise my morals by doing so? My friend thinks so, but there are so many rules and the penalties for mis-representing data are super-severe (if Pfizer was caught mis-representing data their stock would plummet), so if anything I think most companies are if anything overly cautious. Some are not, some of them get caught and I'm sure there are some who don't.

The long-term safety is certainly unknown since there hasn't been time to study it. But the risk is extremely low, which is why the vaccines were approved.

"Very risky" is untrue. But a little risky, OK. Risker than getting Covid? No. I don't agree with giving the companies legal immunity, if that happened I don't agree with it. In the movies these pharma companies are always depicted as having these diabolical criminals (loved the Fugitive, btw). That's not really how things work.

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Actually the guinea pigs were the close to 100,000 people who volunteered for the trials. Some of those people were randomized to placebo and haven't gotten vaccinated yet. The preclinical part was really fast because a lot of work had already been done with prior coronaviruses and RNA viruses. The clinical trials went fast because everything was expedited by everyone for obvious reasons and there were so f'in' many people who got infected.

I do clinical research for a living (altho not for vaccines) and the clinical trial results were quite good and very transparent. I read the entire Pfizer briefing book for the FDA Ad Board mtg and much of the Moderna one. The data was very impressive

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With your fake facebook need Nuremberg codes bullshit. God damnit I'm starting to hate america and it's lack of critical thinking ability



Haha. Man I’m dying here laughing at how much irony there is in your rant. Usually takes 10years minimum to develop a normalvaccine safely Fact. Rushed vaccinne that uses experimental never before tested technology, check. Skips animal trials and normal safety checks , check. You can be a Human guinea pig, but not sure why your mad at me for just stating the truth.





Let's see the snappy come backs from chiro and beatrix on that....



@section125 - I don’t post to get into pissing matches and flex my keyboard muscles with people here. So why don’t you temper your hostilities.

@ Bob - again no long term side effects have been conducted, projection is merely that, projection. Doing this on a large scale is incredibly risky IMO. Of course big pharma is going to right glowing reviews on a product they produce that will make them billions. Horrible side effects,no worries they have been granted blanket legal immunity. Get sick from taking the shot, great you can take their next solution to fix you up on the crap they made you sick with. Win-win. The regulatory agencies (FDA, etc.) are horse shit, these people on these boards all come from the pharmaceutical companies they are now supposed to regulate, That doesn’t worry you? Ok.
I got my second dose on Friday  
spike : 1/10/2021 10:36 pm : link
and have had no reactions after either shot.

Some people I work with were ill in bed for a couple of days.
RE: I got my second dose on Friday  
spike : 1/10/2021 10:37 pm : link
In comment 15118015 spike said:
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and have had no reactions after either shot.

Some people I work with were ill in bed for a couple of days.


All from Pfizer
NBC News  
pjcas18 : 1/10/2021 10:40 pm : link
on May 15:

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Fact check: Coronavirus vaccine could come this year, [redacted] says. Experts say he needs a 'miracle' to be right.


Link below.

It was beaten into the public that a vaccine would take "at least" 18 months to 2 years by multiple experts and as noted in the fact check link below, it would take a miracle to have one before the end of 2020.

Well, here we are.

So, sure, maybe it's totally safe, who knows. But when the experts told you all summer it would need a miracle and that miracle actually happens, it's fine to be careful about ingesting the substance that was the fruit of that miracle.

No need to shame or bully someone who isn't willing to suddenly trust "experts" who have been all over the map on this thing. Experts of all parties and persuasions.

Here are some quotes:

This was May 15th (and just one article)
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...But experts say that the development, testing and production of a vaccine for the public is still at least 12 to 18 months off, and that anything less would be a medical miracle....


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...“I think it’s possible you could see a vaccine in people’s arms next year — by the middle or end of next year. But this is unprecedented, so it’s hard to predict,” said Dr. Paul Offit, a professor at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania and the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia....


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...Offit spent 26 years developing a vaccine for rotavirus, a common and dangerous childhood gastrointestinal illness, before it was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in 2006. He said vaccine development typically takes decades, but that efforts to counter COVID-19 are being fast-tracked by scientists, drug companies and nations — rallied by the World Health Organization — to meet the threat posed by the coronavirus, which has killed hundreds of thousands and decimated economies across the globe....



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...Dr. Walter Orenstein, a professor at Emory University and the associate director of the Emory Vaccine Center, said a vaccine in less than a year would be “miracle.”..



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...Dr. Stanley Plotkin, credited with inventing a rubella vaccine in 1964, said developing a vaccine in a year to a year and half was “feasible,” but dependent on the efficacy of the vaccines currently in development and on the ability to mass produce them.

“In the best of circumstances, we should have a vaccine — or let's say vaccines — between 12 and 18 months," he said. "Whether those circumstances will be the best or not, we don’t know."...


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...Dr. Anthony Fauci, told the "Today" show that January 2021 is the earliest a vaccine could be ready, but cautioned that that timeline is "aspirational" and depends on companies producing a vaccine before researchers are sure it will work....


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...“A lot of optimism is swirling around a 12- to 18-month timeframe, if everything goes perfectly. We’ve never seen everything go perfectly,” Bright said. “I still think 12-18 months is an aggressive schedule, and I think it’s going to take longer than that to do so.”...


All these experts skeptical, and some guy is apprehensive about taking it and he's getting bullied and shamed on here.

GTFO.

Also, in CA almost 40% of front line healthcare workers have rejected the vaccine? Why? They cite both the relative low risk of COVID for their age group and the unknown effects of a miracle vaccine.

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...April Lu, a 31-year-old pregnant nurse at Providence Holy Cross Medical Center: Between “the risk of having COVID, or the risk of the unknown of the vaccine … I’m choosing the risk of COVID. I can control that and prevent it a little by wearing masks.”...


Take the vaccine if you want, though I think it should be given first to the people dying (the over 70 year olds or those with the co-morbities - obesity, diabetes, etc.), but don't shame people for being cautious about it.
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Anecdotal but my mom who is 85  
jpkmets : 1/10/2021 10:48 pm : link
(M.D., been seeing patients through this all) git phase 1 two weeks ago. Said her arm hurt a little and she napped tha5 afternoon. But was fine next day.

Gonna breathe easier from afar once she is fully vaccinated. Major badass, she is. Said “this is my calling and if it ends it for me, it ends it.”

Really never not amazed by her.
Bullied and shamed for spouting nonsense  
oghwga : 1/10/2021 11:01 pm : link
Made to sound legit by being sprinkled in with various bits of truths and and half truths with things like Nuremberg codes to try to sound learned and authentic.

I hate it. It's why people don't wear masks and don't take things seriously and cherry pick their facts so they can feel like they have power over something.

I've had people tell me that Fauci should be in jail that bill gates and big pharma created the virus that masks cause syndromes worse than the disease that covid isn't all that bad I am sick and tired of all the nitwitteey I encounter on a daily basis.

I am not a smart man. I don't double down by insisting that I am smarter than Dr Fauci to make myself feel better.

Social media users are constantly bombarded by nonsense and they slurp it up and here we are a year later worse than when we started and people are pissed that they have to wear masks and can't go to bars and they demand service at establishments while not wearing a mask because they think it violates their rights.

I am done being civil to people that spread stupidity.

Sorry.

Check my history. I never argue with anyone here. I am just exhausted by the smugness I see on the self satisfied people who walk around maskless because their Facebook news feed told them not to be sheeple.
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