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NFT: Knicks: 5-5 after 10 games

nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 8:13 am
Dissapointing 2 games but the Knicks are 5-5 after 10 which no one expected.

Randle is playing like a star player ehich again no one expected..

Starters need a change, i would put Rivers in for Bullock, adds a ball handler and a more competent shooter.

Barrett is really dissapointing right now, he is playing like Randle last year, jist barreling into people with no plan, it seems he forces his possessions rather than letting thr gmae come to him.

So the question now is, who can we find to be the running mate for randle?
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Breen keeps saying RJ is “struggling from three”  
bceagle05 : 1/11/2021 7:48 pm : link
as if to imply he’s not struggling everywhere else.

Knox keeping us in it.
Knox!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/11/2021 7:48 pm : link
3rd 3 pointer. Love it.
Rj beat again  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 7:51 pm : link
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We are winning.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/11/2021 7:53 pm : link
WTF?
Kevin  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/11/2021 7:56 pm : link
Knox. Wow.
stop shooting rj please  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 7:57 pm : link
Knicks making their run, Randle on the bench, getting a good rest
This woman official is the worst in the game  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 8:03 pm : link
how is that a foul?
RE: Rj beat again  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 8:06 pm : link
In comment 15119283 nygiants16 said:
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That was a pretty quick 180 youve made on RJ nyg16....I hope its not my fault for souring you on him. Lol
Getting the ball across half court  
bceagle05 : 1/11/2021 8:06 pm : link
is such a struggle. Someday we need to find a player who can break down a defense.
Say what you want about Payton,  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 8:07 pm : link
But the guy is great on the dribble drive.
Kevin Knox,  
Jon in NYC : 1/11/2021 8:08 pm : link
wow. Start him in the second half ahead of RJ.
RJ is 1-7  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2021 8:11 pm : link
Woof
RE: RJ is 1-7  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/11/2021 8:12 pm : link
In comment 15119315 Greg from LI said:
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Woof


He's been awful.
RE: Getting the ball across half court  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 8:13 pm : link
In comment 15119304 bceagle05 said:
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is such a struggle. Someday we need to find a player who can break down a defense.


Alot of that is from letting Randle do it so often. Sure he has a handle, which is nice for a change, but he doesnt think like a distributor and makes really bad decisions....often. He shouldnt get the ball until they cross the timeline unless he is leading a break.
RE: Kevin Knox,  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15119307 Jon in NYC said:
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wow. Start him in the second half ahead of RJ.


Yup, Rj getting cooked on defense and cant hit anything..
RE: RE: RJ is 1-7  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 8:15 pm : link
In comment 15119317 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Woof



He's been awful.


I have a bad feeling he is going to remain that way. He reminds me a little of a smaller John Wallace. Talent is there, just cant play the game very well.
Where are all the knox haters  
GMEN46 : 1/11/2021 8:16 pm : link
I remember all the morons on here, saying his career is over , he is the worst player ever. You guys know who you are. I kept saying I think he has higher upside than RJ. I get it it’s a handful of games, but he has shown he has ability, he is 21!!!!!! Spent the offseason working on the 3, the defense is improved. Next season he will work o. The pump fake dribble right and pump fake dribble left to hit the step in 15 footer, then he will work on the post game the next few offseasons and guess what by then he will only be 25 and ready to enter his prime as a well balanced offensive player.

Now RJ Barrett is concerning and always has been concerning, very stiff, besides up and down below average athletically. He is a bad shooter and doesn’t have good form unlike knox. The difference is he wants to be a star so badly so he will get better but def not a star. Every time he scores it seems like he puts so much effort into making a shot never anything easy
I am down on RJ.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/11/2021 8:17 pm : link
& it sucks because one pick ahead, Zion & Ja. Just like in '09 with Steph.

When will we catch a break?
RE: I am down on RJ.  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15119327 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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& it sucks because one pick ahead, Zion & Ja. Just like in '09 with Steph.

When will we catch a break?


Numbers dont pan out, but Reddish looks like a more promising player. Better D, more aggressive to the rim and he seems to have a better stroke from 3....def a better FT guy so if he can get to the rim he could help there.
Barrett has been beaten backdoor  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 8:30 pm : link
4 times
Heyward looks good  
Metnut : 1/11/2021 8:34 pm : link
a lot of people mocked CLT for signing him, but it’s not like they are going to get a tier 1 superstar with their cap. They added a nice player to try and get some structure around their young stud PG (who is having an off game tonight).
RE: Barrett has been beaten backdoor  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 8:35 pm : link
In comment 15119346 nygiants16 said:
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I am beginning to think he simply doesnt have the head for the game. He wasnt all that great imv at Duke and he makes Trevor Ariza look like Jordan.

Clyde just echoed my statement two nights ago: Barrett should go to the hole more. Then when they start backing off you, put your back to the basket and use your quickness. He IS two things....quick and springy.

Take that bitch to the hole, make your lay ups and free throws.
Barrett quick and springy?  
GMEN46 : 1/11/2021 8:38 pm : link
Barrett is the furthest thing from quick, he is slow for a small forward
RE: Barrett quick and springy?  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15119356 GMEN46 said:
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Barrett is the furthest thing from quick, he is slow for a small forward


I dont know what athlete you are watching...his first step is sudden and rangy, and is pretty good at changing direction.
This team starting to play stupid  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 8:52 pm : link
3 seconds left he is going to shoot the 3, mitch why are you backing off??

My only problem with Barrett is his shooting  
Ira : 1/11/2021 8:55 pm : link
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RE: My only problem with Barrett is his shooting  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 8:56 pm : link
In comment 15119378 Ira said:
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You know the guy he is guarding is lighting it uo right?
RE: My only problem with Barrett is his shooting  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 8:57 pm : link
In comment 15119378 Ira said:
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Ok......what are the other parts of his game that you like?
Same refs same dog shit  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 8:57 pm : link
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5th time rj beaten backdoor  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 8:58 pm : link
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Some of the guys can’t hit water if they fell out of a boat.  
PetesHereNow : 1/11/2021 9:00 pm : link
Unfortunately RJ is one of them.
RE: 5th time rj beaten backdoor  
TyreeHelmet : 1/11/2021 9:00 pm : link
In comment 15119386 nygiants16 said:
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If your as bad a defender as Barrett you better be scoring 30. This guy can’t even shoot.
Sucks to say  
Mike in NJ : 1/11/2021 9:01 pm : link
But Barrett might be the worst player in the rotation. He’s atrocious lately.
I really hate watching Rj play basketball  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 9:02 pm : link
He jist forces everything and when he is wide open he cant shoot, it destroys the team, he is 5 for 17 i mean that kills a team..

You cant win with your back court being that bad shooting wise..
I know he is only 20  
Carl in CT : 1/11/2021 9:03 pm : link
But I’m ready to move on.
Knox should start.  
PetesHereNow : 1/11/2021 9:04 pm : link
He’s at least a decent shooter. Reggie Bullock will not matter to the Knicks 1-2 seasons from now, and Rivers is better off the bench. I’d like a 5 of Quickley, RJ, Knox, Randle, Mitch.
RE: Knox should start.  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 9:06 pm : link
In comment 15119399 PetesHereNow said:
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He’s at least a decent shooter. Reggie Bullock will not matter to the Knicks 1-2 seasons from now, and Rivers is better off the bench. I’d like a 5 of Quickley, RJ, Knox, Randle, Mitch.


Rj should not start
They would have been so much better off taking  
Mike in NJ : 1/11/2021 9:06 pm : link
Deandre Hunter.
Thibs  
Carl in CT : 1/11/2021 9:06 pm : link
You can’t have RJB, Payton & Robinson on the floor together! No shooters and too much pressure on Randle and whatever 2 guard.
RE: They would have been so much better off taking  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2021 9:09 pm : link
In comment 15119407 Mike in NJ said:
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Deandre Hunter.


If only they had listened to me *sigh*

Averaging 16 and 7 on 51% shooting.
Honestly wouldnt be shocked  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 9:09 pm : link
to see Rose and Thibs trade Rj, they didnt draft him, get what you can
Problem w/ RJ is he can’t shoot.  
PetesHereNow : 1/11/2021 9:09 pm : link
If you’re defending him, you can play back a step, and he doesn’t have great speed to get by.

Doesn’t leave us much. Very doubtful a star sees RJ and goes “damn I need to play with that dude.”
as soon as rj and payton are in  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 9:10 pm : link
hornets go to zone
RE: RE: Knox should start.  
PetesHereNow : 1/11/2021 9:12 pm : link
In comment 15119406 nygiants16 said:
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He’s at least a decent shooter. Reggie Bullock will not matter to the Knicks 1-2 seasons from now, and Rivers is better off the bench. I’d like a 5 of Quickley, RJ, Knox, Randle, Mitch.



Rj should not start


You either have to start him and hope he gets better or trade him soon. Not sure if his shot is a fixable thing. He’s killing any value he might have every time he throws up a 25 percent shooting night.
RE: Honestly wouldnt be shocked  
BigBlueShock : 1/11/2021 9:12 pm : link
In comment 15119420 nygiants16 said:
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to see Rose and Thibs trade Rj, they didnt draft him, get what you can

That chance is gone. Who the hell would want him? I mean, they could obviously just trade him for a bag of balls but he is destroying any trade value he may have had with his performances lately
RE: RE: Honestly wouldnt be shocked  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15119429 BigBlueShock said:
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to see Rose and Thibs trade Rj, they didnt draft him, get what you can


That chance is gone. Who the hell would want him? I mean, they could obviously just trade him for a bag of balls but he is destroying any trade value he may have had with his performances lately


You have to hope someone says they want the 3rd overall pick from last year..
RE: RE: RE: Knox should start.  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 9:16 pm : link
In comment 15119428 PetesHereNow said:
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He’s at least a decent shooter. Reggie Bullock will not matter to the Knicks 1-2 seasons from now, and Rivers is better off the bench. I’d like a 5 of Quickley, RJ, Knox, Randle, Mitch.



Rj should not start



You either have to start him and hope he gets better or trade him soon. Not sure if his shot is a fixable thing. He’s killing any value he might have every time he throws up a 25 percent shooting night.


He is killing this team, like it or not Thibs wants to win and he will quickly lose this team if Rj keeps going 5 for 20 everh night..

This is awful, this isnt even oh he is young he will get right, no this is really bad
Everyone except  
GMEN46 : 1/11/2021 9:16 pm : link
For Mitch is tradeable. Mitch is really impressing me this year again he has tackled one of his issues, he isn’t fouling, he has learned sometimes he doesn’t need to get the block, he can be just as impactful going straight up. Doesn’t need to be Patrick Ewing but over the next 5 years needs to develop just a few moves. There is no reason he can’t become a 20-12-3 guy down the road.
RE: Everyone except  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2021 9:17 pm : link
In comment 15119437 GMEN46 said:
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For Mitch is tradeable. Mitch is really impressing me this year again he has tackled one of his issues, he isn’t fouling, he has learned sometimes he doesn’t need to get the block, he can be just as impactful going straight up. Doesn’t need to be Patrick Ewing but over the next 5 years needs to develop just a few moves. There is no reason he can’t become a 20-12-3 guy down the road.


You dont trade Randle either, you build around Randle and Mitch..
RJ’s lit up Indiana twice.  
bceagle05 : 1/11/2021 9:17 pm : link
Maybe they’ll take him.
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