Signing day 1/15, sadly @mets are not connecting to any of the top 40 available IFA’s per BA. Strange approach (even if it was Brodie/Wilpons). They never “sat out” the IFA period to this extent in any of the signings periods since the pool was instituted
Cohen/Sandy? Or is this the final gift from Wilpon/Brodie? Thanks
This is one we likely will never know. As I said, they have spent on IFA's even in the leanest of years and their entire pool was 5.4 million. It's not "on" Sandy or Cohen regardless, but the thought process here was perplexing. They have routinely spent on at least "mid-upper tier" IFA's. This is the first year they completely sat them out.
putting the pressure on the Yankees, informed his agent to reach out to all previously interested teams. Mets, Dodgers, Toronto etc. Don't see the Mets jumping in here.
very right move if so. They need SP depth but at the moment they have a solid top 3, a reasonable starting 5 to start the season, and Thor on the way at some point.
2-3 more SP's are needed for depth to ensure they don't have to give away any more starts to Oswalt types as injuries pop up, and in case Peterson or Matz struggles, but they don't need to weaken the BP by moving Lugo.
very right move if so. They need SP depth but at the moment they have a solid top 3, a reasonable starting 5 to start the season, and Thor on the way at some point.
2-3 more SP's are needed for depth to ensure they don't have to give away any more starts to Oswalt types as injuries pop up, and in case Peterson or Matz struggles, but they don't need to weaken the BP by moving Lugo.
Porter had talked about the need for SP depth on repeat. They will add arms, and likely quite a few. I wouldn't mind Rich Hill as an extra arm (he credited Porter with helping turn around his career) Link - ( New Window )
very right move if so. They need SP depth but at the moment they have a solid top 3, a reasonable starting 5 to start the season, and Thor on the way at some point.
2-3 more SP's are needed for depth to ensure they don't have to give away any more starts to Oswalt types as injuries pop up, and in case Peterson or Matz struggles, but they don't need to weaken the BP by moving Lugo.
FWIW, SNY was citing Heyman's tweet. Lugo to the pen is the right move but they are simply citing this
"Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
The Mets haven’t said so publicly, but the belief and expectation is that Seth Lugo will move back to the bullpen where he dominated. Lugo in fact was one of the better bullpen arms in baseball before joining the rotation."
Hill is interesting - there are really a ton of names out there
Here's a list from MLB.com sorted by fwar the last couple seasons.
Quote:
Starting pitchers
Charlie Morton (37 years old, 7.0 WAR) -- Signed one-year deal with ATL (Nov. 24)
Trevor Bauer (30, 5.8) -- Declined QO from CIN (Nov. 11)
Mike Minor (33, 5.0) -- Signed two-year deal with KC (Dec. 1)
Jake Odorizzi (31, 4.3)
Masahiro Tanaka (32, 4.1)
Marcus Stroman (30, 3.9) -- Accepted QO from NYM (Nov. 11)
James Paxton (32, 3.8)
José Quintana (32, 3.7)
Rick Porcello (32, 3.4)
Adam Wainwright (39, 3.2)
Kevin Gausman (30, 3.1) -- Accepted QO from SF (Nov. 11)
Homer Bailey (35, 3.0)
Jon Lester (37, 3.0)
Aníbal Sánchez (37, 2.7)
Brett Anderson (33, 2.6)
Cole Hamels (37, 2.6)
Anthony DeSclafani (31, 2.3) -- Signed one-year deal with SF (Dec. 16)
Mike Fiers (36, 2.3)
Martín Pérez (30, 2.3)
Robbie Ray (29, 2.0) -- Signed one-year deal with TOR (Nov. 7)
J.A. Happ (38, 1.9)
Iván Nova (34, 1.8)
Jake Arrieta (35, 1.6)
Rich Hill (41, 1.6)
Jordan Zimmermann (35, 1.5)
Gio González (35, 1.3)
Chase Anderson (33, 1.1)
Tyler Chatwood (31, 1.1)
Ariel Jurado (25, 1.0)
Mike Leake (33, 1.0)
Carlos Rodón (28, 1.0)
Jeff Samardzija (36, 1.0)
Chris Archer (32, 0.7)
Garrett Richards (33, 0.7)
Drew Smyly (32, 0.7) -- Signed one-year deal with ATL (Nov. 16)
Julio Teheran (30, 0.7)
Taijuan Walker (28, 0.7)
Corey Kluber (35, 0.6)
Tommy Milone (34, 0.6)
Matt Shoemaker (34, 0.6)
Trevor Williams (29, 0.6)
Collin McHugh (34, 0.5)
Matt Moore (32, 0.5)
José Ureña (29, 0.5) -- Signed one-year deal with DET (Dec. 23)
Jefry Rodriguez (27, 0.5)
Tyler Anderson (31, 0.4)
Chi Chi González (29, 0.4)
Robbie Erlin (30, 0.3) -- Signed one-year deal with NPB team (Nov. 30)
Foster Griffin (25, 0.1)
Tyson Ross (34, 0.0)
Félix Hernández (35, -0.1)
Jimmy Nelson (32, -0.1) -- Signed Minor League deal with LAD (Dec. 11)
Michael Wacha (29, -0.2) -- Signed one-year deal with TB (Dec. 18)
Jhoulys Chacín (33, -0.2) -- Signed MiLB deal with NYY (Jan. 6)
Alex Wood (30, -0.2)
Trevor Cahill (33, -0.4)
Wade LeBlanc (36, -0.4)
Kohei Arihara (28, N/A) -- Signed two-year deal with TEX (Dec. 26)
Sam McWilliams (25, N/A) -- Signed one-year deal with NYM (Nov. 20)
Tomoyuki Sugano (31, N/A) -- Returning to NPB (Jan. 7)
Beyond all the guys discussed pre-Carrasco there are a lot of names that I'd imagine will be very cheap 1 year types who need to earn their spots out of ST. Anderson, Happ, Gio, Nova, Sanchez, etc.
"Once I got the call, there were a lot of mixed feelings. Cleveland was home and the people had treated me well...But, also there has been so much excitement around the Mets...I'm blessed to play the game of baseball in one of the greatest cities." - Lindor on being traded to NY
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Francisco Lindor: "I have heard nothing but great things about the organization. I'm ready for the team to work and ready to win. ... I just want to be a little piece of the puzzle."
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Nats talked to Reds about 3B Eugenio Suarez but Washington has made top RHP prospects Jackson Rutledge and Cade Cavalli unavailable, making a deal pretty unlikely. Reds aren’t anxious to trade their top position player, though none of their players are off limits. @MLBNetwork
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Francisco Lindor indicated he would like to have his contract situation resolved by a certain point in spring training. He has never negotiated during the season, so if he's going to sign long-term, it will need to be either before the season begins or after it ends.
I wonder where the extension $ is going to come in
I would bet the NYM prioritize keeping it to 10 years to avoid paying for too many years post-35, which will push the AAV towards the higher end. 10x310m sounds about right. Gives him the highest AAV of all 3 but keeps him to 10 years.
the Mets can't get this done before the end of ST that's on them. We all have a pretty good idea of his cost. That being said, I'm 0% concerned. I'm trying to spend money on a Lindor road gray jersey as we speak but impossible to find!
going to guess 10 years 300 even that begins in 2022 as to not impact the lux tax. So 11 total years of Lindor.
That'd be a screaming bargain !! Especially at the end years.
Re: Pitcher's List above....
I wouldn't want to go too far down that list, since they're ranked by WAR, but Anibel Sanchez might be of interest on a one year deal.
Ah, what do I know....I thought Rick Porcello would be better than he was.
Trading for Lindor was as much about baseball as it was
going to guess 10 years 300 even that begins in 2022 as to not impact the lux tax. So 11 total years of Lindor.
That'd be a screaming bargain !! Especially at the end years.
Re: Pitcher's List above....
I wouldn't want to go too far down that list, since they're ranked by WAR, but Anibel Sanchez might be of interest on a one year deal.
Ah, what do I know....I thought Rick Porcello would be better than he was.
I think Sanchez is done. 5.46 FIP in 2020, 4.44 FIP in 2019 and he's 37. Minor league deal? Sure I guess but I'd shoot much much higher even as depth. His velocity in 2020 was at an all-time low 89.6. Which is only 1 MPH down from 2019 but at 37, that matters. I also think they can do better than Porcello. He wasn't as bad as his numbers but I think they can do better.
I wouldn't be so confident that Toronto signing DJL (I don't believe they will) would hurt their odds of signing Springer. In fact, it might enhance them and make them a more appealing landing spot
I wouldn't be so confident that Toronto signing DJL (I don't believe they will) would hurt their odds of signing Springer. In fact, it might enhance them and make them a more appealing landing spot
The thing that hurts their odds is that previously it sounds like the NYM had more $ on the table.
My guess is that the NYM pov is that they put the best offer out there and if Springer circles back to them they will probably find a way to make it work. And if Springer finds a stronger market elsewhere it won't work.
So the question is if DJL (or anything Toronto does) makes it more likely they increase their offer to Springer?
I wouldn't be so confident that Toronto signing DJL (I don't believe they will) would hurt their odds of signing Springer. In fact, it might enhance them and make them a more appealing landing spot
The thing that hurts their odds is that previously it sounds like the NYM had more $ on the table.
My guess is that the NYM pov is that they put the best offer out there and if Springer circles back to them they will probably find a way to make it work. And if Springer finds a stronger market elsewhere it won't work.
So the question is if DJL (or anything Toronto does) makes it more likely they increase their offer to Springer?
Well Toronto has a TON of potential money they can spend. They are about 125 million under the luxury tax and in 2017 and 2018 their payroll was 163 and 162 million. Given how aggressive they have been it's very safe to suggest they would have zero issue adding both players. The money won't be an issue.
We have to keep in mind that both the Mets pursuit of Bryant and their offer to Springer came BEFORE the Lindor trade so we have no idea what they are willing to do now. Toronto reportedly felt pretty confident THEY were going to pull off the Lindor move so the flip side is the Mets likely weren't sure if they would be able to pull it off. The point is basically, people rooting for Toronto to sign DJL because it means no Springer for them are likely misguided.
The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Again the Mets Springer offer came BEFORE they added about 32 million in Lindor/Carrasco. I don't think we can assume the Mets are leaving 5 years 150 on the table. In fact, Heyman reported they would have to move salary to sign Springer at all. None of this has anything to do with my overall point that Toronto 100% can afford both, or 3 of the top available FA's. DJL wouldn't impede this in terms of payroll or lux tax.
also has an additional 20 million coming off the books with Roark/Ray. They are in a great position. They would be smart to lock up some of their young/cheap talent.
The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Wherever that blurb is from is actually not accurate. Martino said "The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million. He didn't say short of 175, he said somewhat less than 150. We also don't even know the years. For all we know Toronto offered 4 years 115 vs. 5 for 145 for the Mets, so we could easily be talking about Toronto simply adding a year.
I didn't say the Mets exact offer is still out there
I said they may be in a position to get him if they want him because if you believe the reporting they put in the high bid so far by a healthy margin.
Of course events have likely changed their posture towards Springer but they haven't shot it down completely when directly asked so I think if they end up in the position where Springer's camp wants to re-engage they will make it work (and yes as reported that almost definitely would involve moving some salary).
As for Toronto I don't know what their plan is only what's been reported. I have no idea why they offered so much less than the NYM initially and I have no idea whether or not they will up their offer because none of us know the true budget parameters any of these teams are under (NYM included).
RE: RE: Re: springer this is the math that matters
The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Wherever that blurb is from is actually not accurate. Martino said "The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million. He didn't say short of 175, he said somewhat less than 150. We also don't even know the years. For all we know Toronto offered 4 years 115 vs. 5 for 145 for the Mets, so we could easily be talking about Toronto simply adding a year.
we are having 2 completely different discussions. My original point is DJL doesn't keep the Blue Jays from also signing Springer. That's factual based on their payroll and lux tax considerations.
-Also in regard to Lindor, IF the Mets tear up his current deal his new salary DOES count against the 2021 payroll so it would behoove both sides to have the deal begin in 2022 otherwise that's roughly 10 million more added to the 2021# which would put them roughly 18 million under the lux tax. Another option (in addition to this) would be extending Stroman at a lower AAV. 4 years 60 (for example). It would save the Mets 4 million per season vs. the tax.
RE: RE: RE: Re: springer this is the math that matters
The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Wherever that blurb is from is actually not accurate. Martino said "The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million. He didn't say short of 175, he said somewhat less than 150. We also don't even know the years. For all we know Toronto offered 4 years 115 vs. 5 for 145 for the Mets, so we could easily be talking about Toronto simply adding a year.
Was from the latest rumors tagged with George Springer. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/george-springer - ( New Window )
Eric, click the link they are citing word for word
"As you know, the Mets have been negotiating with Springer for much of the offseason. According to league sources, the centerfielder is seeking approximately $175 million. The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million." They summary does not match what Martino reported and he's what they are calling their source.
The Reds and Nationals are known to have discussed a possible deal around third baseman Eugenio Suarez, and the failure to complete a deal seems to hinge on the Nats’ unwillingness to part with top pitching prospects Jackson Rutledge and Cade Cavalli, per MLB Insider Jon Heyman (via Twitter). Rutledge and Cavalli were the Nats’ top draft choices in the past two drafts. It’s not a surprise that Washington would hold on tight, as their system isn’t known for tremendous depth, and they traditionally value starting pitching. Besides, ace Max Scherzer will be a free agent after this season, and at some point, the Nats will need to graduate top pitching talent in order to maintain the standard they have set in the rotation. Any deal with the Nats would probably have to center on Carter Kieboom. If the Reds believe in Kieboom’s ability to play shortstop, he would make sense as a starting point for a deal.
The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Wherever that blurb is from is actually not accurate. Martino said "The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million. He didn't say short of 175, he said somewhat less than 150. We also don't even know the years. For all we know Toronto offered 4 years 115 vs. 5 for 145 for the Mets, so we could easily be talking about Toronto simply adding a year.
Was from the latest rumors tagged with George Springer. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/george-springer - ( New Window )
Eric, click the link they are citing word for word
"As you know, the Mets have been negotiating with Springer for much of the offseason. According to league sources, the centerfielder is seeking approximately $175 million. The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million." They summary does not match what Martino reported and he's what they are calling their source.
Is there a difference between:
"a 5 year deal for somewhat less than 150m" (Martino)
and
"around 5 years $150m" (MLBTR blurb)
Million over 5 vs. 4 years 115 isn’t exactly a huge difference when it’s a negotiation. I’m also not sure why you’re focused on this? My point for the umpteenth time is DJL doesn’t impact Toronto’s pursuit of Springer. Which point have you made that argues against this? That their previous Springer for offer was lower than the Mets pre-Lindor offer? I’m legitimately confused.
-Tim Britton with a great piece in the Athletic talking about what Lindor’s deal might look like. He said it could be anywhere from 8 years 35 per to something like 11 for 30 per of the Mets care about the lux tax as Sandy suggested they do (as they should as repeat offenders have big penalties in terms of the current CBA)
Toronto has tons of money to spend and as recently as 2018 did: everyone agrees they have been aggressive. What have I said that you disagree with? They can’t afford both?
Toronto has tons of money to spend and as recently as 2018 did: everyone agrees they have been aggressive. What have I said that you disagree with? They can’t afford both?
Let me flip the question on you, what did I say that you disagree with?
My point was simply that the essence of what Martino reported was that the Mets had the high offer - and my inference is that Springer could circle back to the Mets if that remains the case. Martino sort of implied as much so not really a huge leap.
To answer your question I don't think that opinion runs contrary to anything you said about TOR spending power but the reported fact is that for whatever reason their offer to Springer had been lower. Obviously they can increase it but for whatever reason to the point each side was making Springer offers previously they didn't.
Disagree with the idea that because Toronto’s offer was lower that it means they can’t/won’t sign him. If that’s their final offer then we know they are “out” and there is nothing to suggest they are. We don’t know the years offered and maybe it’s posturing but Porter implied the focus is now depth and SP and once you add that it would become increasingly hard to see a Springer situation. As it is, if they add another “real” SP or even Hand before moving salary it probably closes the Springer door. Lindor’s new dea if it doesn’t get added to 2021 and they rip up 21 will impact it too
Essentially called that weirdo Laura Goldman a fraud claiming she was friends with him. She also claimed she was close with Ghislaine Maxwell. What an oddball
Apparently is angling for the highest SP AAV over the longest years. It won’t be the Mets but I’m curious if really does take day 2 for 74 from someone like LAA
Disagree with the idea that because Toronto’s offer was lower that it means they can’t/won’t sign him. If that’s their final offer then we know they are “out” and there is nothing to suggest they are. We don’t know the years offered and maybe it’s posturing but Porter implied the focus is now depth and SP and once you add that it would become increasingly hard to see a Springer situation. As it is, if they add another “real” SP or even Hand before moving salary it probably closes the Springer door. Lindor’s new dea if it doesn’t get added to 2021 and they rip up 21 will impact it too
That is a strawman - where did I say say "they can't/won't sign him"? Toronto increasing their offer was literally the first possible scenario I listed because it is certainly possible that they do so.
The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Essentially called that weirdo Laura Goldman a fraud claiming she was friends with him. She also claimed she was close with Ghislaine Maxwell. What an oddball
That woman seems like she has some mental health issues.
Essentially called that weirdo Laura Goldman a fraud claiming she was friends with him. She also claimed she was close with Ghislaine Maxwell. What an oddball
That woman seems like she has some mental health issues.
She did an odd pivot baiting Cohen claiming he was active on Parler (I’m not making this political just stating a fact) and then calling him out for not answering her questions regarding harassment at his company (there is a well known lawsuit against his company not Cohen personally). I guess she gave up pretending they were pals
This is one we likely will never know. As I said, they have spent on IFA's even in the leanest of years and their entire pool was 5.4 million. It's not "on" Sandy or Cohen regardless, but the thought process here was perplexing. They have routinely spent on at least "mid-upper tier" IFA's. This is the first year they completely sat them out.
2-3 more SP's are needed for depth to ensure they don't have to give away any more starts to Oswalt types as injuries pop up, and in case Peterson or Matz struggles, but they don't need to weaken the BP by moving Lugo.
2-3 more SP's are needed for depth to ensure they don't have to give away any more starts to Oswalt types as injuries pop up, and in case Peterson or Matz struggles, but they don't need to weaken the BP by moving Lugo.
Porter had talked about the need for SP depth on repeat. They will add arms, and likely quite a few. I wouldn't mind Rich Hill as an extra arm (he credited Porter with helping turn around his career)
Link - ( New Window )
2-3 more SP's are needed for depth to ensure they don't have to give away any more starts to Oswalt types as injuries pop up, and in case Peterson or Matz struggles, but they don't need to weaken the BP by moving Lugo.
FWIW, SNY was citing Heyman's tweet. Lugo to the pen is the right move but they are simply citing this
"Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
The Mets haven’t said so publicly, but the belief and expectation is that Seth Lugo will move back to the bullpen where he dominated. Lugo in fact was one of the better bullpen arms in baseball before joining the rotation."
Charlie Morton (37 years old, 7.0 WAR) -- Signed one-year deal with ATL (Nov. 24)
Trevor Bauer (30, 5.8) -- Declined QO from CIN (Nov. 11)
Mike Minor (33, 5.0) -- Signed two-year deal with KC (Dec. 1)
Jake Odorizzi (31, 4.3)
Masahiro Tanaka (32, 4.1)
Marcus Stroman (30, 3.9) -- Accepted QO from NYM (Nov. 11)
James Paxton (32, 3.8)
José Quintana (32, 3.7)
Rick Porcello (32, 3.4)
Adam Wainwright (39, 3.2)
Kevin Gausman (30, 3.1) -- Accepted QO from SF (Nov. 11)
Homer Bailey (35, 3.0)
Jon Lester (37, 3.0)
Aníbal Sánchez (37, 2.7)
Brett Anderson (33, 2.6)
Cole Hamels (37, 2.6)
Anthony DeSclafani (31, 2.3) -- Signed one-year deal with SF (Dec. 16)
Mike Fiers (36, 2.3)
Martín Pérez (30, 2.3)
Robbie Ray (29, 2.0) -- Signed one-year deal with TOR (Nov. 7)
J.A. Happ (38, 1.9)
Iván Nova (34, 1.8)
Jake Arrieta (35, 1.6)
Rich Hill (41, 1.6)
Jordan Zimmermann (35, 1.5)
Gio González (35, 1.3)
Chase Anderson (33, 1.1)
Tyler Chatwood (31, 1.1)
Ariel Jurado (25, 1.0)
Mike Leake (33, 1.0)
Carlos Rodón (28, 1.0)
Jeff Samardzija (36, 1.0)
Chris Archer (32, 0.7)
Garrett Richards (33, 0.7)
Drew Smyly (32, 0.7) -- Signed one-year deal with ATL (Nov. 16)
Julio Teheran (30, 0.7)
Taijuan Walker (28, 0.7)
Corey Kluber (35, 0.6)
Tommy Milone (34, 0.6)
Matt Shoemaker (34, 0.6)
Trevor Williams (29, 0.6)
Collin McHugh (34, 0.5)
Matt Moore (32, 0.5)
José Ureña (29, 0.5) -- Signed one-year deal with DET (Dec. 23)
Jefry Rodriguez (27, 0.5)
Tyler Anderson (31, 0.4)
Chi Chi González (29, 0.4)
Robbie Erlin (30, 0.3) -- Signed one-year deal with NPB team (Nov. 30)
Foster Griffin (25, 0.1)
Tyson Ross (34, 0.0)
Félix Hernández (35, -0.1)
Jimmy Nelson (32, -0.1) -- Signed Minor League deal with LAD (Dec. 11)
Michael Wacha (29, -0.2) -- Signed one-year deal with TB (Dec. 18)
Jhoulys Chacín (33, -0.2) -- Signed MiLB deal with NYY (Jan. 6)
Alex Wood (30, -0.2)
Trevor Cahill (33, -0.4)
Wade LeBlanc (36, -0.4)
Kohei Arihara (28, N/A) -- Signed two-year deal with TEX (Dec. 26)
Sam McWilliams (25, N/A) -- Signed one-year deal with NYM (Nov. 20)
Tomoyuki Sugano (31, N/A) -- Returning to NPB (Jan. 7)
Beyond all the guys discussed pre-Carrasco there are a lot of names that I'd imagine will be very cheap 1 year types who need to earn their spots out of ST. Anderson, Happ, Gio, Nova, Sanchez, etc.
"Once I got the call, there were a lot of mixed feelings. Cleveland was home and the people had treated me well...But, also there has been so much excitement around the Mets...I'm blessed to play the game of baseball in one of the greatest cities." - Lindor on being traded to NY
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Francisco Lindor: "I have heard nothing but great things about the organization. I'm ready for the team to work and ready to win. ... I just want to be a little piece of the puzzle."
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Nats talked to Reds about 3B Eugenio Suarez but Washington has made top RHP prospects Jackson Rutledge and Cade Cavalli unavailable, making a deal pretty unlikely. Reds aren’t anxious to trade their top position player, though none of their players are off limits. @MLBNetwork
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Francisco Lindor indicated he would like to have his contract situation resolved by a certain point in spring training. He has never negotiated during the season, so if he's going to sign long-term, it will need to be either before the season begins or after it ends.
Harper got 13/330m. (24.3m AAV)
Machado got 10/300m. (30m AAV)
I would bet the NYM prioritize keeping it to 10 years to avoid paying for too many years post-35, which will push the AAV towards the higher end. 10x310m sounds about right. Gives him the highest AAV of all 3 but keeps him to 10 years.
That'd be a screaming bargain !! Especially at the end years.
Re: Pitcher's List above....
I wouldn't want to go too far down that list, since they're ranked by WAR, but Anibel Sanchez might be of interest on a one year deal.
Ah, what do I know....I thought Rick Porcello would be better than he was.
They're going to re-sign him unless the ask is beyond the pale outrageous.
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going to guess 10 years 300 even that begins in 2022 as to not impact the lux tax. So 11 total years of Lindor.
That'd be a screaming bargain !! Especially at the end years.
Re: Pitcher's List above....
I wouldn't want to go too far down that list, since they're ranked by WAR, but Anibel Sanchez might be of interest on a one year deal.
Ah, what do I know....I thought Rick Porcello would be better than he was.
I think Sanchez is done. 5.46 FIP in 2020, 4.44 FIP in 2019 and he's 37. Minor league deal? Sure I guess but I'd shoot much much higher even as depth. His velocity in 2020 was at an all-time low 89.6. Which is only 1 MPH down from 2019 but at 37, that matters. I also think they can do better than Porcello. He wasn't as bad as his numbers but I think they can do better.
The thing that hurts their odds is that previously it sounds like the NYM had more $ on the table.
My guess is that the NYM pov is that they put the best offer out there and if Springer circles back to them they will probably find a way to make it work. And if Springer finds a stronger market elsewhere it won't work.
So the question is if DJL (or anything Toronto does) makes it more likely they increase their offer to Springer?
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I wouldn't be so confident that Toronto signing DJL (I don't believe they will) would hurt their odds of signing Springer. In fact, it might enhance them and make them a more appealing landing spot
The thing that hurts their odds is that previously it sounds like the NYM had more $ on the table.
My guess is that the NYM pov is that they put the best offer out there and if Springer circles back to them they will probably find a way to make it work. And if Springer finds a stronger market elsewhere it won't work.
So the question is if DJL (or anything Toronto does) makes it more likely they increase their offer to Springer?
Well Toronto has a TON of potential money they can spend. They are about 125 million under the luxury tax and in 2017 and 2018 their payroll was 163 and 162 million. Given how aggressive they have been it's very safe to suggest they would have zero issue adding both players. The money won't be an issue.
We have to keep in mind that both the Mets pursuit of Bryant and their offer to Springer came BEFORE the Lindor trade so we have no idea what they are willing to do now. Toronto reportedly felt pretty confident THEY were going to pull off the Lindor move so the flip side is the Mets likely weren't sure if they would be able to pull it off. The point is basically, people rooting for Toronto to sign DJL because it means no Springer for them are likely misguided.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
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The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Again the Mets Springer offer came BEFORE they added about 32 million in Lindor/Carrasco. I don't think we can assume the Mets are leaving 5 years 150 on the table. In fact, Heyman reported they would have to move salary to sign Springer at all. None of this has anything to do with my overall point that Toronto 100% can afford both, or 3 of the top available FA's. DJL wouldn't impede this in terms of payroll or lux tax.
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The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Wherever that blurb is from is actually not accurate. Martino said "The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million. He didn't say short of 175, he said somewhat less than 150. We also don't even know the years. For all we know Toronto offered 4 years 115 vs. 5 for 145 for the Mets, so we could easily be talking about Toronto simply adding a year.
Of course events have likely changed their posture towards Springer but they haven't shot it down completely when directly asked so I think if they end up in the position where Springer's camp wants to re-engage they will make it work (and yes as reported that almost definitely would involve moving some salary).
As for Toronto I don't know what their plan is only what's been reported. I have no idea why they offered so much less than the NYM initially and I have no idea whether or not they will up their offer because none of us know the true budget parameters any of these teams are under (NYM included).
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The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Wherever that blurb is from is actually not accurate. Martino said "The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million. He didn't say short of 175, he said somewhat less than 150. We also don't even know the years. For all we know Toronto offered 4 years 115 vs. 5 for 145 for the Mets, so we could easily be talking about Toronto simply adding a year.
Was from the latest rumors tagged with George Springer.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/george-springer - ( New Window )
-Also in regard to Lindor, IF the Mets tear up his current deal his new salary DOES count against the 2021 payroll so it would behoove both sides to have the deal begin in 2022 otherwise that's roughly 10 million more added to the 2021# which would put them roughly 18 million under the lux tax. Another option (in addition to this) would be extending Stroman at a lower AAV. 4 years 60 (for example). It would save the Mets 4 million per season vs. the tax.
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The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Wherever that blurb is from is actually not accurate. Martino said "The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million. He didn't say short of 175, he said somewhat less than 150. We also don't even know the years. For all we know Toronto offered 4 years 115 vs. 5 for 145 for the Mets, so we could easily be talking about Toronto simply adding a year.
Was from the latest rumors tagged with George Springer. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/george-springer - ( New Window )
Eric, click the link they are citing word for word
"As you know, the Mets have been negotiating with Springer for much of the offseason. According to league sources, the centerfielder is seeking approximately $175 million. The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million." They summary does not match what Martino reported and he's what they are calling their source.
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In comment 15118740 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15118714 Eric on Li said:
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The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
Wherever that blurb is from is actually not accurate. Martino said "The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million. He didn't say short of 175, he said somewhat less than 150. We also don't even know the years. For all we know Toronto offered 4 years 115 vs. 5 for 145 for the Mets, so we could easily be talking about Toronto simply adding a year.
Was from the latest rumors tagged with George Springer. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/george-springer - ( New Window )
Eric, click the link they are citing word for word
"As you know, the Mets have been negotiating with Springer for much of the offseason. According to league sources, the centerfielder is seeking approximately $175 million. The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million." They summary does not match what Martino reported and he's what they are calling their source.
Is there a difference between:
"a 5 year deal for somewhat less than 150m" (Martino)
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"around 5 years $150m" (MLBTR blurb)
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-Tim Britton with a great piece in the Athletic talking about what Lindor’s deal might look like. He said it could be anywhere from 8 years 35 per to something like 11 for 30 per of the Mets care about the lux tax as Sandy suggested they do (as they should as repeat offenders have big penalties in terms of the current CBA)
Let me flip the question on you, what did I say that you disagree with?
My point was simply that the essence of what Martino reported was that the Mets had the high offer - and my inference is that Springer could circle back to the Mets if that remains the case. Martino sort of implied as much so not really a huge leap.
To answer your question I don't think that opinion runs contrary to anything you said about TOR spending power but the reported fact is that for whatever reason their offer to Springer had been lower. Obviously they can increase it but for whatever reason to the point each side was making Springer offers previously they didn't.
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That is a strawman - where did I say say "they can't/won't sign him"? Toronto increasing their offer was literally the first possible scenario I listed because it is certainly possible that they do so.
In comment 15118714 Eric on Li said:
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The former Astro wants a deal in the $175MM range, but the Mets have been short of that at around five years and $150MM, according to Martino. The Blue Jays, who have also been in on Springer, are in the five-year, $115MM range, Martino relays.
So either:
a) TOR will up their offer considerably
b) a mystery team will come up with a big offer
c) the NYM will be in a position to get him if they want him
how things change and when the waiting game ends who knows, though more than any other year it would seem that B is unlikely.
So there's nothing the Mets can do except wait and that's probably the correct move - but if C does happen I suspect they will find a way to make it work.
That woman seems like she has some mental health issues.
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Essentially called that weirdo Laura Goldman a fraud claiming she was friends with him. She also claimed she was close with Ghislaine Maxwell. What an oddball
That woman seems like she has some mental health issues.
She did an odd pivot baiting Cohen claiming he was active on Parler (I’m not making this political just stating a fact) and then calling him out for not answering her questions regarding harassment at his company (there is a well known lawsuit against his company not Cohen personally). I guess she gave up pretending they were pals