spin around the league with major question marks for a lot of teams ... how many QBs will go in the first round?
Patriots ... Cam is done
Jests ... Do they keep Darnold
Steelers ... Ben is done
Jags... New home for the Golden boy
Colts ... Rivers is done, Do they keep Brissett
Raiders and Broncos... you never know with these guys
Cowboys ... How much will Dak want
Eagles ... Did Sudfeld show enough to be their starter (joke)
Skins ... Smith should be done ... Is Heinicke the answer
Vikings, Bears, Lions ... all question marks
Saints ... Brees is done, Hill is not a starter
Panthers ... Teddy B struggled the 2nd half of the year
Falcons ... Matty is another year older
Bucs ... Does Brady come back
49ers ... Another year of Jimmy G and Mullens
Rams ... May depend on next week
The Giants need to find someone like Mariota or Brissett to be able to win a game if Jones gets dinged up.
Yes, it broke the old record of 65 by Steve Young.
He missed the 2nd half of '19 due to a fracture in his back AND a hip injury. He's not super old for a QB, but those are pretty serious, it seems to me.
I was surprised they didn't draft a QB in '20 (Tua or Herbert?). But they are Detroit.
Bears: Trubisky is gone is Foles the answer?
Tennessee: does moving on from Tannehill get them to the next level.
Houston: Watson Wants OUT!
Washington: to add, they also have Allen.
Detroit: moving on from Stafford?
Vikes: Foles is hit or miss and mostly miss
Green Bay: do they trade last years 1st rounder Jordan love?
Stretches as well but you are right, gonna be an interesting.
Why isn't McCoy good enough for our #2? Didn't we beat SEA w/ him?
Why isn't McCoy good enough for our #2? Didn't we beat SEA w/ him?
He can make good decisions and avoid mistakes, but I've confidence he can fit it into tight windows, or threaten with the downfield pass.
I still think Stafford is gone.
"no" confidence that is.
+1
As an ODU alum it was awesome to see. The dude can play, but he's just too small and fragile.
I saw a mock that suggested Kellen Mond from the Aggies in the 6th... not so much as a competitor to Jones but as a complementary backup who can run and throw and go with same offense.. the logic is the game plan can stay the same if DJ goes down vs the pocket guy McCoy.
Granted, two of Cleveland's top CB's were out, but he was hitting guys all over the field.
I think he is back in black and gold next year raring to go again. Just a feeling.
Granted, two of Cleveland's top CB's were out, but he was hitting guys all over the field.
I think he is back in black and gold next year raring to go again. Just a feeling.
It’s possible bc the dude is resilient but also more fragile. At the very least they need a plan b as Mason Rudolph hasn’t shown to be the answer
I like Danny....but Deshaun brings a new level....Get him if you can!
Guy has put up some really insane numbers in a perpetually dysfunctional org.
I think Stafford is one of the most underrated players in the league. I wonder what his career would look like if he played for Sean Payton or Andy Reid.
I would be excited for him to get a change of scenery.
Zeke, Cooper and company haven't got a few years of "QB growth" and a wait and see approach to find out if they can make it to playoffs in 2022 or 2023.
Dig deep Jerry! :)
Wow...That is a lot to consider for the Steelers.
The list of teams secure at the QB position is probably shorter than the opposite list.
He's never won anything.
Jests ... Do they keep Darnold.- Yes. I think they believe his issues were more related to the weirdo HC and his Frank Gore fixation.
Steelers ... Ben is done.- Not so sure. I think he is back for another year after throwing 33 td passes against 10 picks. Steelers go nowhere without him as their running game fell apart.
Jags... New home for the Golden boy.- Problem solved there
Colts ... Rivers is done, Do they keep Brissett.- Rivers had a good year. If he doesn't retire, he will be back. Reich has already said he wants Rivers back. Brissett is a backup.
Raiders and Broncos... you never know with these guys.- Carr has put together 2 good years in a row. Their problems are on the defense and keeping Jaoobs healthy. I think Lock is back unless something falls in the Broncos lap. Everyone knew he was a project.
Cowboys ... How much will Dak want. - It doesn't matter. Jerrah will pay him
Eagles ... Did Sudfeld show enough to be their starter (joke). -If Pedersen gets canned, Wentz will be the qb. If Pedersen stays, Wentz and Hurts will battle for the starter spot.
Skins ... Smith should be done ... Is Heinicke the answer.- No, he's not. The WFT have 3 backups and no starters. They will be in the market.
Vikings, Bears, Lions ... all question marks.- Everyone hates Cousins but who are you going to find to average 30 td passes a year which is what he has averaged on the Vikes. And he's missed 1 game in 6 years. Stafford isn't going anywhere unless someone falls in the Lions' lap or they can get a king's ransom. Bears will be in the market.
Saints ... Brees is done, Hill is not a starter.- Hill is not. Winston?
Panthers ... Teddy B struggled the 2nd half of the year.- He was good the first half so the question is was the decline injury and McCaffery related Although they have or are working out our good friend Haskins.
Falcons ... Matty is another year older.- Still plays at a high level. Their problems are running game and defense related.
Bucs ... Does Brady come back.- Yes. He threw 40 td's this season. He can play until he's 50 at that rate
49ers ... Another year of Jimmy G and Mullens. -Jimmy G. Their injuries were off the charts. The one year they kept Jimmy G off IR, they were 13-3.
Rams ... May depend on next week.- Meh. Goff is like Cousins- everyone hates him until you look around at the alternatives. The Rams are 42-20 under Goff since his 0-7 rookie year. Unless someone falls in their lap, I don't see them making a move.
The Giants need to find someone like Mariota or Brissett to be able to win a game if Jones gets dinged up.
McCoy may not be able to come in and win a game but he can keep the team from losing the game when they have a lead. Giants appear to be building that kind of score-first, build-a-lead team.
Do we really want to bring in someone to start a QB controversy? Give Jones one more season to establish himself. If he doesn’t, start looking at other options in his 4th season and don’t pick up his 5th year option.
Cowboys ... How much will Dak want. - It doesn't matter. Jerrah will pay him
He didn't last year.
Before seeing this post, I was curious why so many mock drafts are showing 4 or 5 QBs in the top 10.
It really makes a lot of sense. And Towards the back of the top 10 better teams, like the Steelers are within striking distance. Slight possibility Giants could be in play like the Chiefs when they came up for Mahomes. They came up a bunch of spots. Put a really good QB on a good team.
The salaries they receive make it very hard for teams if you do not draft very good consistently which is a challenge in itself but then you add injuries (career altering/ending) and it makes it even more so.
Teams where a new HC/GM come in will go towards drafting a QB and getting assets for the current QB. I am interesting to see if teams approach deals for Stafford/Ryan. My wildcard is Belichick making a move on one.
Granted, two of Cleveland's top CB's were out, but he was hitting guys all over the field.
I think he is back in black and gold next year raring to go again. Just a feeling.
Over 500 yards but threw 68 passes..
Especially with that mangled thumb of his. Stafford will be starting for someone next season, you can bet on that.
He's had plenty of weapons, including what might be the most physically dominate WR in the history of the game.
He's been a starting QB in the NFL for 12 years and has made the playoffs 3 times - all one and dones.
He underperformed at Georgia and he underperformed in the NFL.
He's a part of Detroit's problem - not a victim of it.
He's had plenty of weapons, including what might be the most physically dominate WR in the history of the game.
He's been a starting QB in the NFL for 12 years and has made the playoffs 3 times - all one and dones.
He underperformed at Georgia and he underperformed in the NFL.
He's a part of Detroit's problem - not a victim of it.
Level-headed post, imv
Winston is going to get a chance somewhere - question is do you trust him with a good team
I don't see the Jets moving on yet - draft the T and go from there. Unless the new coach does not believe in him.
Wentz is untradable with the contract this year. He will stay for 1 more year
I hope Dallas pays Dak huge dollars - their D will continue to be a problem and their OL will continue to age poorly
Jax is picking QB at 1 and Atl at 4, Det, Den, Car pick 7-9 will be interesting
Ben can't move and they could not run the ball with him. Pouncey & DeCastro will be 32 at start of next season and Vallanueva will be 33. The problem they have is next year are they better than KC, Balt, Buf, Cle,
Wentz is untradable with the contract this year. He will stay for 1 more year
Actually he's uncuttable but he is tradeable.
For the life of me, I'll never figure this guy out.
Has all the ability, arm, can move, throw from any angle or position...smart, grounded.
I remember seeing him play versus the Saints - think it was the year we won SB in 2011-12, and they lost but he was winging it all over. I remember saying, watch out for this team.............
His career could have been so different somewhere else.
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Anybody the Giants should show some interest in as an insurance policy against Jones not showing enough development in year 3?
I saw a mock that suggested Kellen Mond from the Aggies in the 6th... not so much as a competitor to Jones but as a complementary backup who can run and throw and go with same offense.. the logic is the game plan can stay the same if DJ goes down vs the pocket guy McCoy.
As someone who has watched Kellen Mond for four straight years, I hope the Giants do not go this route. Kellen is a good athlete, not a Lamar J. In a designed run, he does well. But seeing the field at all depths is not his strength, he does not have that instinct like Johnny Football did to take off and make a nothing into something. He goes through progressions very slowly. Only this year with an improved O line did he have more time and did better. If DJ fumbles make you crazy, Kellen will send you to the ER. A deep ball? Forget it. And his accuracy is marginal. He doesn't have loads of interceptions, because he overthrows everyone frequently. He is a decent game manager, but he is very inconsistent game to game. The team as a whole, pulled out some great wins, but Kellen can also turn in a 40% completion rate with a few fumbles. Am I critical? Yes, we all are when it comes to our sports teams. I wish him luck, he seems like he is a good guy. But to excel where a qb needs to, and to put the team on his back, I do not believe he is anywhere close to that guy, even as a backup.
Indy as well. They can win now with Stafford.
He's never won anything.
The last 5 seasons, the Lions were trailing on 65% of his pass attempts. In Calvin's near 2,000y season in 2012 it was 123 attempts leading, 454 attempts while trailing, that's 79%.
Not sure he's entirely to blame for DET's lack of success.
I wouldn't call it 'love' but I know what I see on Sundays.
Wow...That is a lot to consider for the Steelers.
Its 22 million to cut him and 19 million saved. They certainly can find better QB play for 20 million. But 22 million dead cap is a ton. Teams don’t win when they have a lot of dead cap. Combine that with the guys they have leaving with little depth . Might target them for unders on season long wins if it’s 8.5 above.
In a lengthy list of guys that doesn't take very long to come up with a reason why you would pass on them, I don't have those same thoughts on Stafford.
I think he has plenty of game and plenty in the tank.
He's had plenty of weapons, including what might be the most physically dominate WR in the history of the game.
He's been a starting QB in the NFL for 12 years and has made the playoffs 3 times - all one and dones.
He underperformed at Georgia and he underperformed in the NFL.
He's a part of Detroit's problem - not a victim of it.
Stafford is a very good QB and a warrior and leader to boot. It’s a travesty what Detroit has done around him. Just another good example of the QB getting way too much blame/credit. That being said the Lions would probably be best off letting him go and blowing it up. May take less to go for a SB with Pats and he seems like the type willing to do so. WFT will certainly be calling and they have cap room.
Ben is done even if he comes back for one more year. People need to stop throwing out how many yards he threw for as if that’s an indicator of good play. They were playing street ball after the 1st quarter with nothing to lose and he still missed guys and looked drained. His knees and body are shot and no way he can hold up another long season next year. The Steelers line and running backs have declined due to so much investment on defense which was the sore spot a few years ago.
I could see the Steelers try to go for another veteran QB and draft a young one again at same time.