... on BBI either marginalize him or don’t see him as a great player?
After an absurd Heisman-winning college career, he’s 30-7 as a Ravens starter. In his last 2 years, he’s accounted for 74 TDs vs 20 turnovers (in 30 games). He’s also been a top 10 rusher each of the past 2 years (averaging an historic 6.5 ypc) — thus, providing the Ravens an added ball control/clock killing advantage. And, after last year, he was voted the overall no. 1 player in the NFL by his peers.
So what’s the argument? That he lost his first 2 playoff games (at age 22 and 23) and his game won’t translate to playoff football? From where I sit, he’s among the handful of most impactful on winning players in the NFL.
Not necessary at all. I don't remember you saying anything unreasonable.
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has the worst arm talent of any QB to ever play the game. It's only right to question his passing ability. - ( New Window )
You've indicated being very confident in Daniel Jones, so here's a quick comp:
Jackson: 64% completions, 7.5 YPA
Jones: 62% completions, 6.6 YPA
So Jackson completes more passes, and gets more out of each pass. Oh, and Jones has thrown 4 more interceptions in 40 fewer attempts.
Jones is a better thrower, but Jackson's a better passer...and that's what matters.
He has a very awkward throwing style, but it is very effective. Every week he seems to just chuck about 2 or 3 passes up, and loe and behold, it is into a tight window for a completion and he does it scrambling. Then he makes beautiful throws. Cannot be luck.
I have to agree with you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I can't stop laughing. You'd think this was a joke, literally.
Arm talent - ( New Window )
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has the worst arm talent of any QB to ever play the game. It's only right to question his passing ability. - ( New Window )
You've indicated being very confident in Daniel Jones, so here's a quick comp:
Jackson: 64% completions, 7.5 YPA
Jones: 62% completions, 6.6 YPA
So Jackson completes more passes, and gets more out of each pass. Oh, and Jones has thrown 4 more interceptions in 40 fewer attempts.
Jones is a better thrower, but Jackson's a better passer...and that's what matters.
Also weird to see all this talk about how no one would want Jackson cause eventually injuries will build up and take their toll when our guy has already missed a handful of games.
This is another one I think differently on now. Finding a 10+ year starter is so damn rare and I think too many teams fail trying to go that route. Nothing wrong with 3-5 elite years from a QB, IMO. Whatever happens from there is what it is. If you manage the cap accordingly you become more fungible and less focused on finding the next Eli, Brady, Ben, etc.
Arm talent - ( New Window )
FWIW, I watch way too much of each Combine... ;)
And I remember LJax throwing that day. But he wasn't really ripping through it when he threw. He was pretty lackadaisical that day. So I wouldn't much stock into that number.
I remember a few people who are advocating for him now having reservations about drafting him because of that reason..
I remember a few people who are advocating for him now having reservations about drafting him because of that reason..
I'm one of them. That's a legit cause for concern, but something that can be resolved in an interview, which we obviously aren't privvy to.
If he acted in the combine interview like he does in his post game, I'd have had no issues with him. Guy is a competitor and a gamer.
Yes, LJ still has things to prove, but I don't think it's necessarily because of the type of QB he is.
Times have changed.
It's super hard to just win championships for having the best defense. It was very common 15+ years ago, but now not as much.
Now everything is done to make sure the better QB is given a better chance of winning the game. Sickening.
Where was this love in the '80s and '90s? LOL.
One follow up: on the issue of injury risk, is there any actual correlation between running QBs and injuries? Off the top of my head, can’t really think of one. Tons of pocket QBs get blown up too (maybe because they can’t see it coming/brace themselves) — see Joe Burrow as a recent example. And plenty of running QBs have long relatively healthy careers — see Steve Young, Cunningham, Steve McNair etc.
Steve Young was turned into a pass first QB rather quickly once Montana left town.
Not so sure I agree about Young's health. He was sorta robbed a few years because of concussions.
Wow a ball that travelled 50 whole yards in the air between the hashes! /sarcasm
He doesn't make all the throws. It isn't a franchise-QB caliber NFL arm.
It's apparent when you see him try to throw the deep out to the opposite hash. You won't see many examples because he can't make that throw. Every time I watch him I see him miss a throw that is easy for most NFL QBs. And he's successful because defenses have to respect his speed and agility. But a team that can contain him as a runner is always going to have a great chance to beat him, and that's why I don't believe he'll win a Super Bowl.
And for any jackasses reading this, this is just my own evaluation of Jackson. I'm a big fan, however, of Justin Fields, who I believe has everything you want in a franchise QB from what I've seen so far.
Don’t want to get in the way of the troll other than to remind you how dumb your stance on this is.
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Don’t want to get in the way of the troll other than to remind you how dumb your stance on this is.
LOL so bad but not surprising at all, he's not a good QB.
The Ravens were really sloppy tonight on offense and special teams. Jackson was part of the problem, mostly because of one horrible play.
The Ravens were really sloppy tonight on offense and special teams. Jackson was part of the problem, mostly because of one horrible play.
Rarely do defenders square up on Jackson to lay the big wood..he has a slithery natural ability to his game
Last night was a perfect example: eventually these running QBs will run into a Playoff D that makes them look ridiculous. It's happened every year to Jackson so far.
When this guy has to throw without gimmicks he looks like a backup QB on my local JV team.
I am disappointed in the Giants D against BAL though - Graham had no plan. The Bills showed you how to embarrass them. Quarters coverage, both your S's attacking the backfield relentlessly. Put their backfield under siege because they can't hurt you. Great job by the Bills, just like the Chargers a year ago.
I wonder if it would help to move the pocket more?
Also, he needs different weapons - think he could benefit from bigger Mike Evans type receivers. Or even another H-Back type TE.
keep in mind, he's still a very young QB
I’m trying to be nice.
Last night was a perfect example: eventually these running QBs will run into a Playoff D that makes them look ridiculous. It's happened every year to Jackson so far.
When this guy has to throw without gimmicks he looks like a backup QB on my local JV team.
I am disappointed in the Giants D against BAL though - Graham had no plan. The Bills showed you how to embarrass them. Quarters coverage, both your S's attacking the backfield relentlessly. Put their backfield under siege because they can't hurt you. Great job by the Bills, just like the Chargers a year ago.
Exactly, I think he's actually gotten worse every year in the playoffs which I didn't think was possible. He's awful.