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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/11/2021 7:32 pm
Who you got?

I think the Tide roll, pun intended.
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ImissTiki : 1/11/2021 9:42 pm : link
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Hope he’s part of the game plan,



For those of you advocating Waddle....he is TINY. The whole big receiver thing I am into, but we can sign a small, fast, sturdy guy in FA for not that much in Samuel.



Yeah but can we sign one as fast or as much of a game breaker as Waddle, who’s also about as dangerous a punt returner as could be?

He’d add a much needed dimension to not imply our O but our specials as well. If Smith is gone, he’s the guy I want.



Um yea, Samuel. Although why do we need him to return punts?



Umm, because he’s great at it.

We need playmakers and he can make them in several ways. Why wouldn’t we want to use all his skills? Or anyone else’s for that matter?




Peppers is good at them too....plus he is about 40 lbs heavier than Waddle and wont die if he cuts the wrong way.

You really want another sprout at receiver?



If we could add a Deshaun Jackson in his prime type guy, you’d pass?

And I didn’t say Waddle was just good at returning punts, I said he was great at it. While I do think Peppers is pretty good when he’s not fair catching, I haven’t seen him be close to great there. At least not yet in Blue.



Waddle is not the prospect Jackson was....ever. Never ever. And even then, Jax slipped to rd. 2.


Waddle is not the prospect DeSean Jackson is says who? You? Jaylen Waddle will most likely be drafted in the top 20 picks several slots higher then D Jax




Stop with the drafting of midgets!!!

You’re right who cares about skill level height is the be all end all
I get Bama  
Everyone Relax : 1/11/2021 9:42 pm : link
has crazy talent on offense, but is no one else very impressed with Mac Jones? Daniel & Mac Jones anyone??
Conversely, IMO, Jones the QB is the normal  
PatersonPlank : 1/11/2021 9:42 pm : link
decent college QB who looks great because he is surrounded by superior talent. IMO< he is another Leinert.
RE: I get Bama  
PatersonPlank : 1/11/2021 9:43 pm : link
In comment 15119498 Everyone Relax said:
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has crazy talent on offense, but is no one else very impressed with Mac Jones? Daniel & Mac Jones anyone??


Not Jones per my post above. IMO he is a good college QB who looks like NFL material because of the talent around him. I much prefer Fields
Is Mac Jones  
LG in NYC : 1/11/2021 9:45 pm : link
An NFL prospect?

I don’t watch much Bama but every time I do he looks good
RE: Is Mac Jones  
MookGiants : 1/11/2021 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15119503 LG in NYC said:
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An NFL prospect?

I don’t watch much Bama but every time I do he looks good


Yes, likely end of 1st or 2nd round pick
So...  
kes722 : 1/11/2021 9:46 pm : link
Smith won't be there at 11 LOL
RE: RE: I get Bama  
Everyone Relax : 1/11/2021 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15119502 PatersonPlank said:
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has crazy talent on offense, but is no one else very impressed with Mac Jones? Daniel & Mac Jones anyone??



Not Jones per my post above. IMO he is a good college QB who looks like NFL material because of the talent around him. I much prefer Fields

Eye test is showing the opposite. Fields has the athleticism but looks scared out there to me. Jones is in complete control and never seems to panic. I think someone is going to get a steal with him in the last first, early second
Smith physically  
SJGiant : 1/11/2021 9:47 pm : link
Reminds me of DeSean Jackson. Can he hold up to the punishment in the NFL ?
Holy crap these announcers are boring  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/11/2021 9:48 pm : link
It’s like they’re calling golf.
Come on Refs  
montanagiant : 1/11/2021 9:48 pm : link
There were 2 blatant holds and a block in that back on that punt
Smith is unbelievable  
PatersonPlank : 1/11/2021 9:48 pm : link
he's ripping up the #2 team in the country single- handedly.

I'd love to draft him
Did I say a 350-yard night?  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/11/2021 9:49 pm : link
Might have underestimated.
Smith is so good  
montanagiant : 1/11/2021 9:50 pm : link
He should go #1
Bama's offense is an absolute machine  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2021 9:50 pm : link
Wow
RE: Smith is unbelievable  
bw in dc : 1/11/2021 9:50 pm : link
In comment 15119515 PatersonPlank said:
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he's ripping up the #2 team in the country single- handedly.

I'd love to draft him


He's a terrific player, but a ton of this is scheme.

And OSU just short on healthy talent.
lets just all pray  
MookGiants : 1/11/2021 9:50 pm : link
Smith goes to the Dolphins.

Going to the Eagles as a result of the Giants winning a few games that mean nothing in the grand scheme would be a total nightmare.
RE: RE: RE: I get Bama  
PatersonPlank : 1/11/2021 9:51 pm : link
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has crazy talent on offense, but is no one else very impressed with Mac Jones? Daniel & Mac Jones anyone??



Not Jones per my post above. IMO he is a good college QB who looks like NFL material because of the talent around him. I much prefer Fields


Eye test is showing the opposite. Fields has the athleticism but looks scared out there to me. Jones is in complete control and never seems to panic. I think someone is going to get a steal with him in the last first, early second


I could definitely be wrong. I've just seen this a lot of times (since I'm now old). He gets a lot of time, hits open receivers who will be #1 picks, etc. However you never know. Its clear though that Smith and couple OL players are 1st round talent
you would think  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/11/2021 9:52 pm : link
you might run a different coverage where a LB is not on Smith?
RE: RE: Smith is unbelievable  
PatersonPlank : 1/11/2021 9:53 pm : link
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he's ripping up the #2 team in the country single- handedly.

I'd love to draft him



He's a terrific player, but a ton of this is scheme.

And OSU just short on healthy talent.


Agreed its scheme. However in big games I look for who they are "scheming" to get open, its obviously who they think is their best player. They are running their whole offense through Smith tonight, even running plays
I guess Notre Dame  
section125 : 1/11/2021 9:53 pm : link
wasn't as bad as we thought. At least they kept Alabama to 31 in a whole game.
RE: Smith physically  
riceneggs : 1/11/2021 9:53 pm : link
In comment 15119512 SJGiant said:
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Reminds me of DeSean Jackson. Can he hold up to the punishment in the NFL ?


He's played in the SEC.

He'll be ok

He'll gain 10 pounds of muscle and at at 185. Which is still light, but still
RE: Did I say a 350-yard night?  
kes722 : 1/11/2021 9:53 pm : link
In comment 15119516 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Might have underestimated.


Currently

12 for 215 and 3td

Its only the 1st half so you might have picked the under LOL
Be nice to see Smith catch one in traffic  
Mark in ATL : 1/11/2021 9:54 pm : link
which he’s very good at. Ohio State DB’s can’t get near him in coverage. At the beginning of the year, that was one skill that people thought he was better than Waddle at.
Hope  
AcidTest : 1/11/2021 9:56 pm : link
Davis is OK.
DeVonta Smith looks a lot more like Isaac Bruce or Marvin Harrison  
dpinzow : 1/11/2021 9:56 pm : link
than DeSean Jackson
Smith  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/11/2021 9:58 pm : link
is so smooth. Looks effortless.
RE: DeVonta Smith looks a lot more like Isaac Bruce or Marvin Harrison  
kes722 : 1/11/2021 9:58 pm : link
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than DeSean Jackson


Again this D he looks like Rice 😆
RE: @ chopper  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15119483 Eman11 said:
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You never answered the question. Would you take a Deshaun Jackson in his prime type guy at 11?


So youre asking me if I could be guaranteed of a prospect having the success of Dijon Jackson at 11, would I draft him there? That's a dumb ass question. Because:

A) of course I would

B) there is no way you can come close to guaranteeing Waddle is a 10k yard receiver and top all time PR
C) The Eagles and 32 other teams didnt think that about Desean coming out of college because he lasted till the 2nd.

Horrible argument.
RE: lets just all pray  
section125 : 1/11/2021 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15119520 MookGiants said:
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Smith goes to the Dolphins.

Going to the Eagles as a result of the Giants winning a few games that mean nothing in the grand scheme would be a total nightmare.


Can we stop with the meaningless win whining. Eagles need QB and OLine more than WR. Giants need almost everything. Would love to get Smith but I would worry a little about his extremely slender build.
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kes722 : 1/11/2021 10:03 pm : link
I didn't like that route by smith....kind of.. went through the motion
RE: lets just all pray  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 10:04 pm : link
In comment 15119520 MookGiants said:
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Smith goes to the Dolphins.

Going to the Eagles as a result of the Giants winning a few games that mean nothing in the grand scheme would be a total nightmare.


Its gotta be a real possibility with Tua already there.
RE: lets just all pray  
BigBlueShock : 1/11/2021 10:06 pm : link
In comment 15119520 MookGiants said:
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Smith goes to the Dolphins.

Going to the Eagles as a result of the Giants winning a few games that mean nothing in the grand scheme would be a total nightmare.

Ah. We are back to bitching about the Giants winning games. For fuck sake. This fan base sucks ass
RE: RE: lets just all pray  
dpinzow : 1/11/2021 10:06 pm : link
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Smith goes to the Dolphins.

Going to the Eagles as a result of the Giants winning a few games that mean nothing in the grand scheme would be a total nightmare.



Its gotta be a real possibility with Tua already there.


Yup, Tua needs a WR badly. Devante Parker is his best WR and he's a #2 guy
RE: lets just all pray  
kes722 : 1/11/2021 10:06 pm : link
In comment 15119520 MookGiants said:
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Smith goes to the Dolphins.

Going to the Eagles as a result of the Giants winning a few games that mean nothing in the grand scheme would be a total nightmare.


...there is no such thing as a few meaningless games. Use Eagles tank and subsequent outrage for proof.
Plus Tua has already thrown to Smith at Alabama  
dpinzow : 1/11/2021 10:07 pm : link
so they have an immediate connection as potential NFL teammates
RE: RE: lets just all pray  
UConn4523 : 1/11/2021 10:09 pm : link
In comment 15119553 BigBlueShock said:
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Smith goes to the Dolphins.

Going to the Eagles as a result of the Giants winning a few games that mean nothing in the grand scheme would be a total nightmare.


Ah. We are back to bitching about the Giants winning games. For fuck sake. This fan base sucks ass


It’s unreal. Couldn’t imagine viewing sports through this lens, pure misery.
I also noticed the LB coverage on that TD  
Chip : 1/11/2021 10:10 pm : link
no comment by the announcers. He certainly was wide open. you have to double cover him and let somebody else beat you. Seems to be a mismatch.
Tide offensive play design  
Rick in Dallas : 1/11/2021 10:11 pm : link
Just outstanding. So many ways Sark gets Smith wide open.
Mac Jones accuracy is also impressive
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Eman11 : 1/11/2021 10:12 pm : link
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You never answered the question. Would you take a Deshaun Jackson in his prime type guy at 11?



So youre asking me if I could be guaranteed of a prospect having the success of Dijon Jackson at 11, would I draft him there? That's a dumb ass question. Because:

A) of course I would

B) there is no way you can come close to guaranteeing Waddle is a 10k yard receiver and top all time PR
C) The Eagles and 32 other teams didnt think that about Desean coming out of college because he lasted till the 2nd.

Horrible argument.


No, I was asking you that because of your lack of size comment.

In other words did you dismiss DJax too because of his size? If so, and knowing how he excelled regardless of it, why would you dismiss Waddle because of it? Did the lack of size prevent DJax from being a game breaker and a very successful NFL player?

Waddle has all the tools to be as productive IMO.
RE: I also noticed the LB coverage on that TD  
Eman11 : 1/11/2021 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15119566 Chip said:
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no comment by the announcers. He certainly was wide open. you have to double cover him and let somebody else beat you. Seems to be a mismatch.


I guess you missed it. Kirk said it right away and then showed it on the replay. How and why the LB ended up on him.
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Everyone Relax : 1/11/2021 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15119563 UConn4523 said:
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Smith goes to the Dolphins.

Going to the Eagles as a result of the Giants winning a few games that mean nothing in the grand scheme would be a total nightmare.


Ah. We are back to bitching about the Giants winning games. For fuck sake. This fan base sucks ass



It’s unreal. Couldn’t imagine viewing sports through this lens, pure misery.

I really hope we don’t win a meaningless super bowl in 2026 and take ourselves out of the running to draft Arch Manning that year
If Bama  
kes722 : 1/11/2021 10:22 pm : link
Goes up 42 - 17 Ohio and Fields...are done
It’s definitely reasonable to expect  
UConn4523 : 1/11/2021 10:22 pm : link
other teams picking in the top 10 won’t select good players...
RE: If Bama  
Eman11 : 1/11/2021 10:24 pm : link
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Goes up 42 - 17 Ohio and Fields...are done


I think they’re done now. Even if Fields lights it up in the 2nd half, OSU has shown no reason to believe they can stop or even limit Bama from scoring.
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chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 10:28 pm : link
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You never answered the question. Would you take a Deshaun Jackson in his prime type guy at 11?



So youre asking me if I could be guaranteed of a prospect having the success of Dijon Jackson at 11, would I draft him there? That's a dumb ass question. Because:

A) of course I would

B) there is no way you can come close to guaranteeing Waddle is a 10k yard receiver and top all time PR
C) The Eagles and 32 other teams didnt think that about Desean coming out of college because he lasted till the 2nd.

Horrible argument.



No, I was asking you that because of your lack of size comment.

In other words did you dismiss DJax too because of his size? If so, and knowing how he excelled regardless of it, why would you dismiss Waddle because of it? Did the lack of size prevent DJax from being a game breaker and a very successful NFL player?

Waddle has all the tools to be as productive IMO.


Fair enough, but Waddle has already gotten hurt in college. You do realize guys like Marvin Harrison and Jackson are incredible anomalies in the league right.

Fuck it...Id much rather take a chance on Pitts than another TINK receiver.
did Smith just break a finger?  
markky : 1/11/2021 10:29 pm : link
that looks painful
I too would rather Pitts  
UConn4523 : 1/11/2021 10:34 pm : link
even though I’m skeptical of how he’d fit but I’ll just have to defer to the OC on that, whoever it is. Waddle is exciting but I just don’t trust guys that size. Tyreek Hill is just built way more compact and can take hits, and also wasn’t a top 10/11 investment.
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santacruzom : 1/11/2021 10:36 pm : link
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Hope he’s part of the game plan,



For those of you advocating Waddle....he is TINY. The whole big receiver thing I am into, but we can sign a small, fast, sturdy guy in FA for not that much in Samuel.



Yeah but can we sign one as fast or as much of a game breaker as Waddle, who’s also about as dangerous a punt returner as could be?



Not that I'd be opposed to Waddle but we already have the all time collegiate record holder for return TDs on our team.
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Eman11 : 1/11/2021 10:38 pm : link
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You never answered the question. Would you take a Deshaun Jackson in his prime type guy at 11?



So youre asking me if I could be guaranteed of a prospect having the success of Dijon Jackson at 11, would I draft him there? That's a dumb ass question. Because:

A) of course I would

B) there is no way you can come close to guaranteeing Waddle is a 10k yard receiver and top all time PR
C) The Eagles and 32 other teams didnt think that about Desean coming out of college because he lasted till the 2nd.

Horrible argument.



No, I was asking you that because of your lack of size comment.

In other words did you dismiss DJax too because of his size? If so, and knowing how he excelled regardless of it, why would you dismiss Waddle because of it? Did the lack of size prevent DJax from being a game breaker and a very successful NFL player?

Waddle has all the tools to be as productive IMO.



Fair enough, but Waddle has already gotten hurt in college. You do realize guys like Marvin Harrison and Jackson are incredible anomalies in the league right.

Fuck it...Id much rather take a chance on Pitts than another TINK receiver.


Yes, I realize that. I just feel the guy is special, will be a really good pro and can help us big time.

As for his injury, pretty sure getting his ankle rolled and broken really wasn’t size related. That play could and does happen to players bigger than him as well.

I’m actually more impressed by his work ethic, rehab, and drive to get back for this game.Let alone playing in pain, than I am worried about him being too small.
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