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No WR in 1st Round

Samiam : 1/11/2021 9:32 pm
Off the top of my head,and I have a terrible memory, there are 4 WRs taken in the 2nd or 3rd round, Michael Thomas, Metcalf, AJ Brown and Claypool. Stefan Diggs was taken in the 5th like Slayton. Maybe someone can add some more names because there must be many. Im reading all over, take Devonte or Waddle with the 11th pick. Why? Especially on this years draft, there will be very good receivers after day 1.
Why Take A QB In Round 1  
Trainmaster : 1/11/2021 9:42 pm : link
Because Russell Wilson was a 3rd round and Tom Brady was a 6th round pick?

Not sure I follow.
I guess you aren’t watching Smith tonight  
KDavies : 1/11/2021 9:45 pm : link
and haven’t all year
Smith is the only one  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/11/2021 9:45 pm : link
I'd take as early as 11. Issue is he will gone but 7. He's one of the few I have no issue w going that early. That being said WRs are a dime a dozen. Today studs are readily available through the first 3 rounds.
from what I've seen 1st round WR's have been  
Rory : 1/11/2021 9:45 pm : link
off the charts these past 3 drafts.

Did you not see guys like..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/11/2021 10:11 pm : link
Jeudy, Jefferson, Aiyuk or Ruggs this season?? They performed pretty well in season one, Jefferson most of all.

Lamb was good too.

Why is because getting a #1 WR is our biggest need  
BillT : 1/11/2021 10:12 pm : link
We are better off in the secondary and better off with our pass rush than we are at WR. And a true #1 WR would make both Slayton and Sheppard better as well. A competent WR corps with the return of Barkley will transform the offense. And getting the offense going fixes our biggest team deficiency.
Take the highest graded player. Period.  
The_Boss : 1/11/2021 10:17 pm : link
If that’s the 3rd or 4th best WR, the 1st or 2nd best CB, or the #1 Edge so be it. This roster needs talent. Lots of it.
If Smith, Waddle, or Chase are there at #11  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/11/2021 10:25 pm : link
It will also most likely represent the best possible value.

But the more I think about it, the more I think all three will be gone by #11.
RE: Take the highest graded player. Period.  
Rory : 1/11/2021 10:58 pm : link
In comment 15119581 The_Boss said:
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If that’s the 3rd or 4th best WR, the 1st or 2nd best CB, or the #1 Edge so be it. This roster needs talent. Lots of it.


talent isn't anything without continuity, Giants have talent they need to stay healthy and galvanize.

That means the GM and staff too
WR  
Dragon : 1/12/2021 12:29 am : link
This is a team in need of two or three WR’s it’s a strong draft to use multi picks which is a better option than FA these guys don’t come cheap. No you don’t have to pick one in the first but if a special one is there then for sure BPA and team need match sure take your guy.
Just take the best player on the board and let Judge sort it out  
Go Terps : 1/12/2021 12:33 am : link
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I dont want a WR in the 1st.  
chopperhatch : 1/12/2021 12:38 am : link
Give me defense or I'll even take the best interior OL on the board in Wyatt Davis or Leatherwood because we may need 2 more guards after next year. We can get a body in the 2nd. Would love Parsons or Surtain at 11, but not one of these crickets that did it at the college level but will get obliterated in the pros.

Do you guys see the hits some of these bigger receivers in the NFL take? And in the cold windy games? You need Wildebeasts not Antelopes for those games.
RE: I dont want a WR in the 1st.  
Giantology : 1/12/2021 4:48 am : link
In comment 15119715 chopperhatch said:
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Give me defense or I'll even take the best interior OL on the board in Wyatt Davis or Leatherwood because we may need 2 more guards after next year. We can get a body in the 2nd. Would love Parsons or Surtain at 11, but not one of these crickets that did it at the college level but will get obliterated in the pros.

Do you guys see the hits some of these bigger receivers in the NFL take? And in the cold windy games? You need Wildebeasts not Antelopes for those games.


We need receivers who separate and score points. Desperately.
"You can get talented Position X in the later rounds"  
j_rud : 1/12/2021 7:07 am : link
You can literally make this case about any position. The roster is about 50% complete. You take the highest graded player period. No position-none-should be out of bounds.
I think we’ve been scarred by the relatively brief primes...  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/12/2021 7:15 am : link
... of Nicks, Cruz, Smith, Manningham, and Beckham. The Giants haven’t gotten more than four good years from a wideout since... Amani Toomer? Ike Hilliard was never the same after a brutal neck injury in his second game. Some us are old enough to remember the star turn of Mike Sherrard, which lasted six games. Beckham and Burress gave us some great moments, but proved unreliable as foundation stones. Golden Tate was supposed to fill part of the hole left by Beckham; all he filled were his pockets.

I don’t think the Giants’ experience with WRs is typical. Either way, it has probably shaped our perception of the position.
The silver lining of being consistently bad  
Capt. Don : 1/12/2021 7:50 am : link
is that BPA usually fills a position of need.

WR, Edge, CB, LB, OT are all positions of varying degrees of need.

Of course all of this depends on FA, which is why it would be ideal to do the draft first, IMO. Then fill in holes with FA after the fact.
Hell, I would be fine with Pitts at 11...  
Capt. Don : 1/12/2021 7:52 am : link
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Take the best player on your board  
JonC : 1/12/2021 8:28 am : link
Giants need more talent all over the roster, they're in no position to cherry pick based on position.

That said, you might get your wish as they've been need picking.
RE: Take the best player on your board  
section125 : 1/12/2021 8:46 am : link
In comment 15119790 JonC said:
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Giants need more talent all over the roster, they're in no position to cherry pick based on position.

That said, you might get your wish as they've been need picking.


Well with their talent level, they can BPA pick and it still at a position of need. Hard to discern between the two.
Maybe not as bad this year...
RE: Hell, I would be fine with Pitts at 11...  
Don Said : 1/12/2021 8:55 am : link
In comment 15119772 Capt. Don said:
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TE at 11 feels a little uncomfortable, but I'd be very happy with him, he might even be my top pick depending on who goes before we are on the board. A real target for Jones.

If we are talking BPA, Pitts belongs in the top 10 hands down imo.
RE: I dont want a WR in the 1st.  
cokeduplt : 1/12/2021 9:18 am : link
In comment 15119715 chopperhatch said:
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Give me defense or I'll even take the best interior OL on the board in Wyatt Davis or Leatherwood because we may need 2 more guards after next year. We can get a body in the 2nd. Would love Parsons or Surtain at 11, but not one of these crickets that did it at the college level but will get obliterated in the pros.

Do you guys see the hits some of these bigger receivers in the NFL take? And in the cold windy games? You need Wildebeasts not Antelopes for those games.



Davis and Learherwood are both reaches at 11.
I'm not about forcing a pick in rd 1  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/12/2021 9:30 am : link
go BPA for sure. I'd be ok with almost any position outside of ILB and S.
You can do that exercise with every position  
Mike from Ohio : 1/12/2021 9:45 am : link
You evaluate players, not positions.
I feel like this is "Too smart for the room"  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/12/2021 10:25 am : link
in draft context.

With the challenges the Giants have on the offensive roster, let's worry more about finding as many good players as possible and less about playing cute games with draft position value systems.
If Chase is there  
averagejoe : 1/12/2021 12:41 pm : link
do Giants take him with pick eleven in a deep WR draft ? I think DG will pass. He seems reluctant to draft any WR's in early rounds. I believe he will go CB or ER and address WR/TE in later rounds. Is Chase worth pick eleven ??
I am fine  
lax counsel : 1/12/2021 12:56 pm : link
Not taking a WR in rd 1, but then you need to invest resources in one of the top FA guys. If the answer to Jones struggles this year is he had no weapons, than you need to invest in getting him some. Second tier guys won't cut it, you're probably looking more at Golladay or Robinson for a legit #1 guy. You probably also need a rd 2 receiver to supplement.

It's also a bit curious how the Giants are so tight against the cap with a qb on a rookie deal, limited offensive talent, and a largely younger team??
Chase  
RAIN : 1/12/2021 3:18 pm : link
Would have gone over everyone last year at the position.

He was the number 1 receiver on LSU.

His talent jumps off the screen. If he’s in shape and has no character issues, I believe he’s the least risky pick at the position. Taking a year off presents some challenges, but his skill is legit and his play speed/strength was undeniable. Was is the key word, we’ll see how the players that opted out are viewed by NFL gm’s.
RE: RE: I dont want a WR in the 1st.  
chopperhatch : 1/12/2021 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15119853 cokeduplt said:
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In comment 15119715 chopperhatch said:


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Give me defense or I'll even take the best interior OL on the board in Wyatt Davis or Leatherwood because we may need 2 more guards after next year. We can get a body in the 2nd. Would love Parsons or Surtain at 11, but not one of these crickets that did it at the college level but will get obliterated in the pros.

Do you guys see the hits some of these bigger receivers in the NFL take? And in the cold windy games? You need Wildebeasts not Antelopes for those games.




Davis and Learherwood are both reaches at 11.


Davis is slotted at 15 on most bpards mostly because of position.
I Agree,  
OntheRoad : 1/12/2021 7:15 pm : link
demand for wide receivers should be down this year since so many loaded up last year. If the Giants trade down, a first rounder might make more sense.
I know everyone is clamoring for Smith or Chase  
TruBlue56 : 1/13/2021 11:24 am : link
for the WR spot this coming draft and I would be happy with them. However, I am really thinking we should get TE Kyle Pitts in the 1st round then get TE Pat Freiermuth in the 2nd round. Then get a WR in the 3rd round, maybe St. Brown. This would instantly fix our offense. We like to run 3 TE sets. Let's get the 2 best TEs in the draft and roll with it. Remember the Pats with Gronk and Hernandez? We would look like that.
RE: I am fine  
Alamo : 1/13/2021 11:09 pm : link
In comment 15120212 lax counsel said:
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Not taking a WR in rd 1, but then you need to invest resources in one of the top FA guys. If the answer to Jones struggles this year is he had no weapons, than you need to invest in getting him some. Second tier guys won't cut it, you're probably looking more at Golladay or Robinson for a legit #1 guy. You probably also need a rd 2 receiver to supplement.

It's also a bit curious how the Giants are so tight against the cap with a qb on a rookie deal, limited offensive talent, and a largely younger team??


I think we need to get a WR out of FA...There are a few good ones..Need a fairly young one 25/26 yrs old no more...1st rd Edge or CB...2ND rd same as 1st rd...3rd rd WR or TE..
4th rd LB...5th rd OL...6th/7th rd best available...8th rd Hire Me as GM...I come cheap...Just want 2 box seats...No money needed !!
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