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NFT: Mike Milbury out at NBC

Steve L : 1/11/2021 9:33 pm
Back in August he made a comment about the bubble being a good thing and there weren’t any women to be a distraction. That’s sexist so they fired him.

I always liked him and his insight. Too bad.
I don’t follow NHL  
ImissTiki : 1/11/2021 9:37 pm : link
So I’m unfamiliar with this guy but is that comment really that offensive? Asking for a friend
I was not a fan  
pjcas18 : 1/11/2021 9:40 pm : link
of Millbury, but I find it hard to agree he should lose his livelihood over that comment.

RE: I was not a fan  
Steve L : 1/11/2021 9:42 pm : link
In comment 15119490 pjcas18 said:
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of Millbury, but I find it hard to agree he should lose his livelihood over that comment.


Yeah. It’s pretty stupid.
Excellent commentator  
Chip : 1/11/2021 9:55 pm : link
and in my opinion there is no announcer in football would be his equivalent.
RE: Excellent commentator  
BestFeature : 1/11/2021 10:07 pm : link
In comment 15119530 Chip said:
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and in my opinion there is no announcer in football would be his equivalent.


Mrs. Milbury, you're the only person on earth that believes this.
RE: I don’t follow NHL  
BestFeature : 1/11/2021 10:08 pm : link
In comment 15119486 ImissTiki said:
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So I’m unfamiliar with this guy but is that comment really that offensive? Asking for a friend


Was it the worst example of outrage over something a commentator said? No. But I don't think it was anything terrible. Pretty much everything anyone says that people get outraged over falls into this category nowadays.
He's.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/11/2021 10:08 pm : link
always been surrounded by controversy, but the cancel culture movement needs to get the fuck out of impacting people's lives.

We've gotten to the point where you can't retract something because a bunch of people flip out to the point of no return.
How is it sexist?  
section125 : 1/11/2021 10:18 pm : link
Do NBC and the NHL think young players aren't out looking to get laid? So now the media and league are setting morals? Didn't an NBA player get caught sneaking women into their bubble?
Wouldn't a former NHL player know what is going on?
RE: He's.  
markky : 1/11/2021 10:19 pm : link
In comment 15119561 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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always been surrounded by controversy, but the cancel culture movement needs to get the fuck out of impacting people's lives.

We've gotten to the point where you can't retract something because a bunch of people flip out to the point of no return.


it's infuriating.
RE: How is it sexist?  
pjcas18 : 1/11/2021 10:23 pm : link
In comment 15119583 section125 said:
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Do NBC and the NHL think young players aren't out looking to get laid? So now the media and league are setting morals? Didn't an NBA player get caught sneaking women into their bubble?
Wouldn't a former NHL player know what is going on?


It was viewed as an offensive comment mostly by some women (women in the NHL media) who felt like they were being demeaned as a distraction.

when in reality is Millbury had said "no signficant others are around in the bubble" instead of women he'd probably still have a job because his comment had zero to do with gender and was simply about the players being able to only focus on hockey.

but this is the world some people have chosen for all of us to live in
We keep..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/11/2021 10:27 pm : link
hearing "to err is human", but then when a human errs, it really can go sideways for them and it doesn't even have to be anything nefarious.

I was in line at the grocery store a couple years ago, and as the woman in front of me was checking out, the cashier texted somebody. The woman went to the customer service desk, got a manager and literally demanded that the cashier get fired. Some 17 year old has somebody cause a scene to have her fired? WTF?

When I was a kid, if somebody called you a name, your parents would give the old "sticks and stones" talk. Nowadays, words hurt. Problem is - once words are uttered, they are out there and people use them against the person to cause other damage.

The odds a person calling a game is going to say something that will offend the wrong person is pretty high.
This is the perfect opportunity for the Isles!  
trueblueinpw : 1/11/2021 10:38 pm : link
Greatest GM in the history of the Isles.
RE: RE: How is it sexist?  
section125 : 1/11/2021 10:44 pm : link
In comment 15119591 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15119583 section125 said:


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Do NBC and the NHL think young players aren't out looking to get laid? So now the media and league are setting morals? Didn't an NBA player get caught sneaking women into their bubble?
Wouldn't a former NHL player know what is going on?



It was viewed as an offensive comment mostly by some women (women in the NHL media) who felt like they were being demeaned as a distraction.

when in reality is Millbury had said "no signficant others are around in the bubble" instead of women he'd probably still have a job because his comment had zero to do with gender and was simply about the players being able to only focus on hockey.

but this is the world some people have chosen for all of us to live in


It cannot be viewed as sexist if it is the truth. But yeah in this time period truth is denied or altered to fit narratives. And if the women in the NHL media want to dictate morals, their credentials should be removed. Hey I am all for players in any sport or in life not cheating on their wives. But my opinion is moot as should be theirs.
I think it's ole "women are being objectified"  
BestFeature : 1/11/2021 10:49 pm : link
But the point is, this is more about the athletes than women. I can't fathom how nowadays we're supposed to empower women and yet we infantilize them at every turn.
RE: I think it's ole  
section125 : 1/11/2021 10:56 pm : link
In comment 15119630 BestFeature said:
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But the point is, this is more about the athletes than women. I can't fathom how nowadays we're supposed to empower women and yet we infantilize them at every turn.


It takes two to tango. But enough...this is the world some people have chosen for the rest of us.
I heard a great definition of political correctness today  
chopperhatch : 1/11/2021 11:06 pm : link
and it is not a political expression, but psychological... Bill Maher had once said that his definition of political correctness is "the elevation of sensitivity over truth"...which I found very intelligent and poignant (those of you who know me know I am no fan of Bill Maher). But when he had Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist from Toronto, on his show, after Maher gave his definition, Peterson expanded on it with: "the elevation of moral posturing about sensitivity over truth."

I hope I dont get in trouble for sharing those quotes, but I think Millbury was a victim of the latter. Not that I'll miss that meatball.
RE: I heard a great definition of political correctness today  
section125 : 1/11/2021 11:08 pm : link
In comment 15119647 chopperhatch said:
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and it is not a political expression, but psychological... Bill Maher had once said that his definition of political correctness is "the elevation of sensitivity over truth"...which I found very intelligent and poignant (those of you who know me know I am no fan of Bill Maher). But when he had Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist from Toronto, on his show, after Maher gave his definition, Peterson expanded on it with: "the elevation of moral posturing about sensitivity over truth."

I hope I dont get in trouble for sharing those quotes, but I think Millbury was a victim of the latter. Not that I'll miss that meatball.
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It is posturing and that is all it is and only when convenient.
I didn't think what he said was  
Gman11 : 1/12/2021 7:26 am : link
sexist at all and surely not something to lose his job over, but I am not a fan. He's an ass and he usually shows it in his commentary.

Plus, I'll never forgive him over the shoe incident so screw him.
Another Reason I'm Glad I'm Retired  
varco : 1/12/2021 7:27 am : link
This has gotten completely out of hand and an innocuous comment or ill-advised utterance can get you fired, vilified and cancelled. Who among us has not said something we wished we hadn't? Goodbye livelihood, future plans, children's educations---gone. This is scary that we live in a climate where there is seemingly no redemption for sincere contrition or forgiveness. Happy that I'm retired and no longer under potential scrutiny for every word I write or speak. Very sad and I don't see a way back from this path.
Milbury has always been an idiot  
Victor in CT : 1/12/2021 8:09 am : link
but I agree that this nonsense where people lose jobs and/or can't get jobs because of some stupid comment is out of control
Many of us remember Mike  
KeoweeFan : 1/12/2021 9:00 am : link
from when he played on those good Rochester Amerks teams.
you can’t even speak the truth anymore  
mattlawson : 1/12/2021 9:33 am : link
So because he put women in that statement instead of just saying distractions he was terminated. PC I think it’s gone way too far
He's basically a caveman  
NYerInMA : 1/12/2021 9:36 am : link
So I am glad he is gone. His analysis on NBC was awful and he had nothing to contribute, so regardless of his comments, he deserved to get fired. Good riddance.
RE: He's basically a caveman  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/12/2021 9:40 am : link
In comment 15119884 NYerInMA said:
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So I am glad he is gone. His analysis on NBC was awful and he had nothing to contribute, so regardless of his comments, he deserved to get fired. Good riddance.


Bullshit that he deserved to be fired. If he's poor at his job, you don't retain him once his contract is up. There's a difference between deserving to be fired and deserving not to be retained.
I won't miss him  
Greg from LI : 1/12/2021 9:42 am : link
But this was a bullshit firing.
He deserved to be fired  
Metnut : 1/12/2021 9:43 am : link
The comment wasn’t an isolated one. It’s part of a pattern. He made another comment in an empty arena that it felt like a woman’s hockey game in here.

NHL is trying to reach out to woman hands, and they’ve had growth there, and you don’t want an idiot like Milbury alienating a large part of the customers.

It’s not cancel culture, it’s business 101.
RE: He deserved to be fired  
Metnut : 1/12/2021 9:44 am : link
In comment 15119895 Metnut said:
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The comment wasn’t an isolated one. It’s part of a pattern. He made another comment in an empty arena that it felt like a woman’s hockey game in here.

NHL is trying to reach out to woman hands, and they’ve had growth there, and you don’t want an idiot like Milbury alienating a large part of the customers.

It’s not cancel culture, it’s business 101.


Trying to reach out to women fans, not woman hands.
It is..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/12/2021 9:48 am : link
most certainly Cancel Culture. He made a statement. A group complained vocally to have him removed, and he was removed.

When a person can apologize or doesn't even get a chance to apologize and is fired, it is certainly Cancel Culture
People say stupid things. News at 11.  
oghwga : 1/12/2021 9:49 am : link
Twitter mob of outrage is killing the legitimacy of going after the underlying cause of the outrage.

RE: It is..  
Metnut : 1/12/2021 10:03 am : link
In comment 15119906 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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most certainly Cancel Culture. He made a statement. A group complained vocally to have him removed, and he was removed.

When a person can apologize or doesn't even get a chance to apologize and is fired, it is certainly Cancel Culture


It wasn’t a one-time incident. His performance was awful and he was canned. This was the last straw for him. If my performance was awful at my job, apologies wouldn’t cut it, they’d find someone else who could get it done.

The comment itself wasn’t the end of the world, but it was part of a pattern and a decision was made.

I’m happy someone else will get a shot at the job. Milbury was awful.
RE: He deserved to be fired  
section125 : 1/12/2021 10:10 am : link
In comment 15119895 Metnut said:
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The comment wasn’t an isolated one. It’s part of a pattern. He made another comment in an empty arena that it felt like a woman’s hockey game in here.

NHL is trying to reach out to woman hands, and they’ve had growth there, and you don’t want an idiot like Milbury alienating a large part of the customers.

It’s not cancel culture, it’s business 101.


Do you really think that women that enjoy hockey are offended by that comment - which is absolutely the truth? As someone else just said, it is likely this was an excuse to get rid of him and some of his wacky comments.
He apologized  
pjcas18 : 1/12/2021 10:37 am : link
he apologized the next day.

I'd almost have more respect for people like him if they didn't apologize because the apologies simultaneously ring hollow and it does nothing to appease the mob.

but...the "victims" of cancel culture, many of them at least, need their jobs to sustain their livelihood, so they kowtow and grovel out of desperation.

And NBC never said this is a long time coming or there is a pattern, they simply feigned outrage over the comments and said they're inconsistent with the networks beliefs and position, etc.

Here is the full excerpt of Millbury's comments:

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...“If you think about it, it’s a terrific environment with regard to — if you enjoy playing and enjoy being with your teammates for long periods of time, it’s a perfect place,” play-by-play announcer John Forslund said.

Milbury responded, “Not even any woman here to disrupt your concentration.”...


Should it be said? Probably not, should someone be fired for it? No.

And again, I am not a fan of Millbury and wouldn't have minded seeing him replaced. Just not this way.

And worst of all it sets a bad precedent.
RE: He's.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/12/2021 12:09 pm : link
In comment 15119561 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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always been surrounded by controversy, but the cancel culture movement needs to get the fuck out of impacting people's lives.

We've gotten to the point where you can't retract something because a bunch of people flip out to the point of no return.


Know nothing about hockey anymore other than their Twitter brigade seems to be the wokest of all fan groups surprisingly.

This guy didn’t even say anything wrong or even anything sexist. I’m confused how this is a sexist statement outside of acknowledging the basic fact men and women are different.
Is there a link saying that was the reason...  
BillKo : 1/12/2021 1:57 pm : link
....I would have thought if they were that upset, fire him then or right after the SC.

I mean, I like Milbury......I am Bruins fan and he was a decent player, but a damn good HC for them. He's a grumpy old guy and I think he can be funny. But that's not everyone's taste.

But I will say, my analysis of him is he doesn't really work all that hard at what he does.....just sorta shows up and agitates. Again, I think it's funny. But NBC might just want someone a little more into the strategy of hockey as a color man which I don't think Milbury brings.

And the comment he made could have just been another little thing they weren't liking about his style...and canned him.

It's their production, they can do what they want.
so I did Google and it seems it was as over that...  
BillKo : 1/12/2021 2:02 pm : link
...if you read the headlines.

But NBC said it was over a number of things. They didn't elaborate but I wouldn't doubt that Milbury is probably not an easy guy to work with. Just a hunch!!

Again....it's their production and they can fire the guy if they want.
RE: RE: It is..  
BillKo : 1/12/2021 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15119933 Metnut said:
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In comment 15119906 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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most certainly Cancel Culture. He made a statement. A group complained vocally to have him removed, and he was removed.

When a person can apologize or doesn't even get a chance to apologize and is fired, it is certainly Cancel Culture



It wasn’t a one-time incident. His performance was awful and he was canned. This was the last straw for him. If my performance was awful at my job, apologies wouldn’t cut it, they’d find someone else who could get it done.

The comment itself wasn’t the end of the world, but it was part of a pattern and a decision was made.

I’m happy someone else will get a shot at the job. Milbury was awful.


And really that's probalby the answer. This quote from Milbury isn't to be taken in a vacume.

We all know is personality........I mean c'mon, he even agitates his partners in the booth on occassion.

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