he jumps to the NFL for. Man they really have no idea do they. Roseman sitting there inside the house he’s built while it’s on fire just thinking everything’s swell.
Aside from the overly ambitious, why would any coach of a major college program, leave for the pros? By major, you know who I am referring to...OU is one of them. These guys have very good salaries, their houses are paid for, kids college and they work about a third less the time. Plus, they have to deal with whacko, primadonna pros.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
Aside from the overly ambitious, why would any coach of a major college program, leave for the pros? By major, you know who I am referring to...OU is one of them. These guys have very good salaries, their houses are paid for, kids college and they work about a third less the time. Plus, they have to deal with whacko, primadonna pros.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
Gotta agree with you here, no question.
Throw in the all important power factor they have at these big colleges. They’re in total control of their programs and I don’t think there’s a coach in the NFL who has as much of that as they do.
College football is big business and the money is there. All things considered unless a Lombardi Trophy is your ultimate goal, a big college HC job is pretty tough to beat.
Aside from the overly ambitious, why would any coach of a major college program, leave for the pros? By major, you know who I am referring to...OU is one of them. These guys have very good salaries, their houses are paid for, kids college and they work about a third less the time. Plus, they have to deal with whacko, primadonna pros.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
Gotta agree with you here, no question.
Throw in the all important power factor they have at these big colleges. They’re in total control of their programs and I don’t think there’s a coach in the NFL who has as much of that as they do.
College football is big business and the money is there. All things considered unless a Lombardi Trophy is your ultimate goal, a big college HC job is pretty tough to beat.
I mean, you could even go super hardcore like Brett Bielema and frequent sorority parties. I mean guy gotta a job here and was trying to be out back to school before the season even ended!
OU is a better job than most NFL jobs especially the Eagles.
This^^^
After the Eagles fired their HC only 3 years after he brought the franchise it's 1st and only SB trophy, after a Covid year and their OL decimated by injuries...
Riley would be NUTS to come to Philly. I guess Philly could "back up the Brinks' truck" to lure him, but nah, not likely.
This is my thought too. They waited how long to win a ring? And they kick the guy out after one whack decision? I’m actually surprised ownership wasn’t in on that call. It kept us out of the playoffs and I know Philly hates us more than the skins. The skins are like everyone’s annoying little brother in the East. I just don’t think a Covid riddled season should be the year you make a call like this on your only super bowl winning coach.
RE: RE: Riley isn’t leaving OU for the pitiful Eagles
but this fucking franchise rebounds faster than most, imv..I never count them down and out.
I agree with this for the most part and I also agree that NFL jobs are hard to come by so. most don't pass them up. But, if you have options, given how the GM can't get along with his coaches and they always end in divorce, plus his insistence on control and the owner backing him up, how really attractive is this job? I mean, it just seems that the GM always wins and a coach in demand might not want to go to a team that is 71 million over the cap, qb issues, old and aging roster, etc etc.
I don't see Riley leaving to coach the Eagles. I think he has a top 10 recruiting class coming in and his current QB Spencer Rattler is going to be outstanding.
the idea of winning on the biggest stage is a desire they may have.
You can say the Eagles are a dumpster right now but I think that is a good entry point. Expectations are low, you can acquire talent with high picks for a couple years and have a young, talented team by year 3 if you draft well. Not a bad deal.
Another factor is Sark is going to Texas. I think he is going to do really well and they will challenge Oklahoma. He has learned from Saban how it is down.
No parity. The better you do, the better you can recruit and the better you recruit, the better you will do. Once you have a successful program, it is far easier to maintain that success in the college ranks.
Much more difficult in the pros. New England was the exception, not the rule.
Aside from the overly ambitious, why would any coach of a major college program, leave for the pros? By major, you know who I am referring to...OU is one of them. These guys have very good salaries, their houses are paid for, kids college and they work about a third less the time. Plus, they have to deal with whacko, primadonna pros.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
I've got to think they just like the challenge, but I agree. I remember the "knock" on Bob Stoops by NFL guys was that he didn't work hard enough. Stoops was honest enough to say he wanted to be home with his family for dinner. That is hard to do in the NFL, where guys are sleeping in their offices.
Aside from the overly ambitious, why would any coach of a major college program, leave for the pros? By major, you know who I am referring to...OU is one of them. These guys have very good salaries, their houses are paid for, kids college and they work about a third less the time. Plus, they have to deal with whacko, primadonna pros.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
I've got to think they just like the challenge, but I agree. I remember the "knock" on Bob Stoops by NFL guys was that he didn't work hard enough. Stoops was honest enough to say he wanted to be home with his family for dinner. That is hard to do in the NFL, where guys are sleeping in their offices.
I know this is true, but I never understood why college is less of a time crunch, the recruiting aspect of it alone would seem to me to drag people away from their families.
I said on another thread the Eagles threw the game with
some kind of plan in mind. If they are strongly going after Riley, I would imagine it might be tied to them looking to move Wentz for more high picks and then try to set up an offense specifically for Hurts, even something similar to what the Ravens have set up for Jackson.
Don't be surprised if the Eagles heading into the 2021 season look radically different than Pederson's Eagles.
Obviously all simply speculation on my part, but Pederson was set up as a fall guy for Roseman's next series of moves.
Aside from the overly ambitious, why would any coach of a major college program, leave for the pros? By major, you know who I am referring to...OU is one of them. These guys have very good salaries, their houses are paid for, kids college and they work about a third less the time. Plus, they have to deal with whacko, primadonna pros.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
I've got to think they just like the challenge, but I agree. I remember the "knock" on Bob Stoops by NFL guys was that he didn't work hard enough. Stoops was honest enough to say he wanted to be home with his family for dinner. That is hard to do in the NFL, where guys are sleeping in their offices.
I know this is true, but I never understood why college is less of a time crunch, the recruiting aspect of it alone would seem to me to drag people away from their families.
Absolutely. Especially now. Not only are you doing the football stuff, you spend a couple hours every night talking on the phone/facetiming with high school kids. If you think top college coaches today aren't working NFL hours, you're nuts.
To add to that, at many places you have a number of other fund raising obligations, schmoozing boosters. The draw is not only the challenge of winning at the highest level but the ability to focus on JUST football rather than all of the other things college coaches have to worry about.
With Rattler getting even better. I guess there's the 'Well, it's the NFL', but if I was Lincoln, I'd stay in Norman. The dude is like 35ish. He'll have plenty of opportunities to jump to the NFL in the coming years/decades.
I don't see Riley leaving to coach the Eagles. I think he has a top 10 recruiting class coming in and his current QB Spencer Rattler is going to be outstanding.
I think Riley wants to be in the Sabo, Dabo conversation and get OU a title. Then after that if he wants to go NFL then sure,
With Rattler getting even better. I guess there's the 'Well, it's the NFL', but if I was Lincoln, I'd stay in Norman. The dude is like 35ish. He'll have plenty of opportunities to jump to the NFL in the coming years/decades.
The one exception is if you get a Matt Rhule offer.
Didn’t Hurts play his last year for him? I’d think that might play into this a bit if true.
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interesting. If so a new QB would be needed.
Didn’t Hurts play his last year for him? I’d think that might play into this a bit if true.
Change of offense may help Hurts - an offense designed for him. But I was not impressed with him at all
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
Gotta agree with you here, no question.
Throw in the all important power factor they have at these big colleges. They’re in total control of their programs and I don’t think there’s a coach in the NFL who has as much of that as they do.
College football is big business and the money is there. All things considered unless a Lombardi Trophy is your ultimate goal, a big college HC job is pretty tough to beat.
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Aside from the overly ambitious, why would any coach of a major college program, leave for the pros? By major, you know who I am referring to...OU is one of them. These guys have very good salaries, their houses are paid for, kids college and they work about a third less the time. Plus, they have to deal with whacko, primadonna pros.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
Gotta agree with you here, no question.
Throw in the all important power factor they have at these big colleges. They’re in total control of their programs and I don’t think there’s a coach in the NFL who has as much of that as they do.
College football is big business and the money is there. All things considered unless a Lombardi Trophy is your ultimate goal, a big college HC job is pretty tough to beat.
I mean, you could even go super hardcore like Brett Bielema and frequent sorority parties. I mean guy gotta a job here and was trying to be out back to school before the season even ended!
Man knows where his bread is buttered (gross).
This^^^
After the Eagles fired their HC only 3 years after he brought the franchise it's 1st and only SB trophy, after a Covid year and their OL decimated by injuries...
Riley would be NUTS to come to Philly. I guess Philly could "back up the Brinks' truck" to lure him, but nah, not likely.
Bill, didn’t people say that about Rhule? The nfl is the biggest stage. Guys can be lured out.
This is my thought too. They waited how long to win a ring? And they kick the guy out after one whack decision? I’m actually surprised ownership wasn’t in on that call. It kept us out of the playoffs and I know Philly hates us more than the skins. The skins are like everyone’s annoying little brother in the East. I just don’t think a Covid riddled season should be the year you make a call like this on your only super bowl winning coach.
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OU is a better job than most NFL jobs especially the Eagles.
Bill, didn’t people say that about Rhule? The nfl is the biggest stage. Guys can be lured out.
Baylor isn’t OU. Rhule had been a pro assistant and going from Baylor to NFL head coach is a step up. Going from OU to the Eagles, not so much.
I agree with this for the most part and I also agree that NFL jobs are hard to come by so. most don't pass them up. But, if you have options, given how the GM can't get along with his coaches and they always end in divorce, plus his insistence on control and the owner backing him up, how really attractive is this job? I mean, it just seems that the GM always wins and a coach in demand might not want to go to a team that is 71 million over the cap, qb issues, old and aging roster, etc etc.
You can say the Eagles are a dumpster right now but I think that is a good entry point. Expectations are low, you can acquire talent with high picks for a couple years and have a young, talented team by year 3 if you draft well. Not a bad deal.
Another factor is Sark is going to Texas. I think he is going to do really well and they will challenge Oklahoma. He has learned from Saban how it is down.
Much more difficult in the pros. New England was the exception, not the rule.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
I've got to think they just like the challenge, but I agree. I remember the "knock" on Bob Stoops by NFL guys was that he didn't work hard enough. Stoops was honest enough to say he wanted to be home with his family for dinner. That is hard to do in the NFL, where guys are sleeping in their offices.
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Aside from the overly ambitious, why would any coach of a major college program, leave for the pros? By major, you know who I am referring to...OU is one of them. These guys have very good salaries, their houses are paid for, kids college and they work about a third less the time. Plus, they have to deal with whacko, primadonna pros.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
I've got to think they just like the challenge, but I agree. I remember the "knock" on Bob Stoops by NFL guys was that he didn't work hard enough. Stoops was honest enough to say he wanted to be home with his family for dinner. That is hard to do in the NFL, where guys are sleeping in their offices.
I know this is true, but I never understood why college is less of a time crunch, the recruiting aspect of it alone would seem to me to drag people away from their families.
Don't be surprised if the Eagles heading into the 2021 season look radically different than Pederson's Eagles.
Obviously all simply speculation on my part, but Pederson was set up as a fall guy for Roseman's next series of moves.
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Aside from the overly ambitious, why would any coach of a major college program, leave for the pros? By major, you know who I am referring to...OU is one of them. These guys have very good salaries, their houses are paid for, kids college and they work about a third less the time. Plus, they have to deal with whacko, primadonna pros.
Unless you are jumping from Baylor to the pros, it makes no sense. Bobby Bowden is 91, coached a ton of prime college games and still has 14 million to leave his kids. Fuck pro coaching. You ever hear of Coughlin or Belichick's lifestyle? Its insanity.
I've got to think they just like the challenge, but I agree. I remember the "knock" on Bob Stoops by NFL guys was that he didn't work hard enough. Stoops was honest enough to say he wanted to be home with his family for dinner. That is hard to do in the NFL, where guys are sleeping in their offices.
I know this is true, but I never understood why college is less of a time crunch, the recruiting aspect of it alone would seem to me to drag people away from their families.
Absolutely. Especially now. Not only are you doing the football stuff, you spend a couple hours every night talking on the phone/facetiming with high school kids. If you think top college coaches today aren't working NFL hours, you're nuts.
To add to that, at many places you have a number of other fund raising obligations, schmoozing boosters. The draw is not only the challenge of winning at the highest level but the ability to focus on JUST football rather than all of the other things college coaches have to worry about.
The one exception is if you get a Matt Rhule offer.