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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 8:19 am
-Nothing too notable from the Lindor presser. Came off as affable and a good dude. Noted he's open to an extension but wants it done before some point in ST. It'll get done. Nitpicking but weird they didn't send him a jersey to throw on

-Carrasco presser at 1PM

-Hendriks 54 million guaranteed with CHW. He's the best RP in baseball. Their pen is loaded on paper. Would love to see the Mets add to the 3 good RP they have. Lugo/Diaz/May.

-Marlins and Sox have discussed Benintendi
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I have been going back and forth on the Hendricks deal  
bhill410 : 1/12/2021 12:22 pm : link
I mean he is best reliever in baseball on a 13 average. Team option for 4th year that can instead be Bobby bonilla’d (tho haven’t seen number of years reported anywhere. 3/39 is pretty low if you consider some of contracts being given out in recent years (looking at you Chapman). Then again the guaranteed nature of 4th year certainly makes it more Appealling for player.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 12:25 pm : link
Has some real red flags. I’m with the Mets. I wouldn’t go multiple years unless the AAV were very low
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 1:09 pm : link
Kluber looks good I'd be ALL over adding him to ex-teammate Carrasco.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 1:11 pm : link
Tim Britton
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Carlos Carrasco's first text after the trade came from his former division rival and new catcher, James McCann.

-The Marlins have had discussions with the Cubs about catcher Willson Contreras, according to SportsGrid’s Craig Mish (Twitter link). There isn’t any sense that a trade might be close, as Mish describes the situation as “very fluid” considering how “the Cubs have big decisions to make across the board” (namely, trade talks involving several of their veteran players).
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 2:49 pm : link
Jose Quintana had made 31+ starts 7 consecutive seasons coming into 2020. He's not exciting but he's consistently solid. He'd be a very nice addition to @Mets
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 2:51 pm : link
Quintana isn't as "sexy" as Kluber/Paxton but he's also a safer bet to give you 20+ starts and probably the only one of the 3 you can entice with 2 years at a lower AAV which would help with LT concerns.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 3:28 pm : link
One thing to monitor with any potential Benintendi trade. It should give us some idea what kind of return the Mets could/would receive if they decided to move Nimmo (not looking to deal him). Same years of control, Nimmo a year older. #Mets
FG has the Mets having the best SP  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2021 3:46 pm : link
In baseball as of today.
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pjcas18 : 1/12/2021 3:56 pm : link
In comment 15120399 DanMetroMan said:
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One thing to monitor with any potential Benintendi trade. It should give us some idea what kind of return the Mets could/would receive if they decided to move Nimmo (not looking to deal him). Same years of control, Nimmo a year older. #Mets


Good comp, Nimmo is a little better player though, but I think it's a good gauge of the floor I guess.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15120413 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15120399 DanMetroMan said:


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One thing to monitor with any potential Benintendi trade. It should give us some idea what kind of return the Mets could/would receive if they decided to move Nimmo (not looking to deal him). Same years of control, Nimmo a year older. #Mets



Good comp, Nimmo is a little better player though, but I think it's a good gauge of the floor I guess.


I'm thinking more of a basic "idea" as to what we could expect. I'd take Nimmo as well but it's not crazy. If the two teams swapped players nobody would go "woah!"
RE: FG has the Mets having the best SP  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 4:00 pm : link
In comment 15120412 ZGiants98 said:
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In baseball as of today.


It's silly. They have DeGrom at 6+ fWAR, which in itself isn't silly but shows how top-heavy they are. t goes beyond simply a very good (potential) top 4 with Syndergaard. Peterson is completely unproven/Matz has been awful and they have ZERO backfill at the AA/AAA level. 2019 they had 6 SP make 11+ starts, 2018 they had 6 SP make 12+ starts, 2017 they had 6 SP make 17+. I see 3 healthy very good options, Thor who hopefully is close to what he was pre-injury and ?? with no insurance behind them.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 4:01 pm : link
Jeff Zimmerman very high on Andres Gimenez "Jeff Zimmerman: I’m high on Gimenez. He was a glove first guy but seems to be getting some power. I noticed his max exit velo is inline with Freddie Freeman and other bats. He could very much produce like the Sox’s Anderson."
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 4:03 pm : link
the bottom line... pitchers get hurt but lets just assume the top 3 are healthy (and assuming 162 games)

There are 162 starts needed.

90 or so to the top 30... that's still 72 starts you need to worry about, and injuries will in fact happen. Serious or not. I wouldn't count on Thor/Matz/Pederson for 72 starts if I were trying to win a WS.
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bhill410 : 1/12/2021 4:16 pm : link
Get another start and option Peterson down to AAA, but with the lineup they have let’s not also ignore that yes they could make it to the playoffs with Peterson matz and Thor filling up those remaining 72. Is there uncertainty there, obviously, but it’s not as though this is the 07 team starting Brian Lawrence down the stretch.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15120439 bhill410 said:
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Get another start and option Peterson down to AAA, but with the lineup they have let’s not also ignore that yes they could make it to the playoffs with Peterson matz and Thor filling up those remaining 72. Is there uncertainty there, obviously, but it’s not as though this is the 07 team starting Brian Lawrence down the stretch.


Well sure, there are tons of things that could happen this year. Maybe Familia, Betances and Brach all bounce back. Maybe Peterson is much better than he's shown etc. But on paper, they are very thin rotation wise. Matz is one of the worst SP in baseball over the last 3 seasons by both FIP and fWAR (and that's ignoring he was so bad in 2020 he basically was unpitchable). You want to put yourself in position to win games. Peterson/Matz/Kilome/Oswalt doesn't do that for you as your SP depth 5th and beyond (on paper).
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 4:21 pm : link
worth noting the 2020 Mets bullpen finished 15th in fWAR, 16th in FIP, they added May and "lost" Wilson/Shreve. So outside of guys bouncing back (Familia, Betances, Brach, Gsellman) it's not as if the BP is a major strength on paper.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 4:25 pm : link
no snark, but save any "it's only 1/12" stuff. I fully recognize that fact. In no way am I complaining about the pitching for opening day on 1/12. I'm simply stating the facts/numbers.
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pjcas18 : 1/12/2021 4:43 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
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Sandy Alderson on George Springer:

"Given the level of excitement, enthusiasm surrounding the Mets, I don't think we've been crossed off his list. ... I would say that we're still engaged, in a loose sense, with Springer."

More on Jon's podcast below
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 4:49 pm : link
If the numbers work we’d be interested but with Lindor he’s no longer a must have
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pjcas18 : 1/12/2021 4:51 pm : link
In comment 15120467 DanMetroMan said:
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If the numbers work we’d be interested but with Lindor he’s no longer a must have


Yeah, based on the phrasing it seems like the Mets are taking a Cespedes-like approach. Let him test the market and if he doesn't find what he wants, come back to us on our terms.

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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 4:55 pm : link
The first takeaway from @JonHeyman's interview with Sandy... @MetsGM and @StevenACohen2 have met in person... ONCE. wow.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:03 pm : link
Sandy says they have not determined if they will be above the lux tax this off-season, notes that just because they are a big market team does not mean they do not have to "make choices", says the luxury tax "obviously" is at the back of their minds
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:03 pm : link
Sandy acknowledged (as we all knew) that the payrolls of @Mets
under the previous owners were kept were they were because they were influenced by "financial concerns"
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:05 pm : link
Lindor trade talks began as a "general discussion" in regard to who might be available (on both sides) and was not in regard to Lindor or Carrasco- per Sandy
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:07 pm : link
This is fascinating.... @MetsGM told @JonHeyman that @Mets became aware of Lindor's availability the same way "we" did... through media reports
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:11 pm : link
per Sandy acknowledges the team has depth issues. They will look to "work from the bench up and we'll see where it takes us"
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:13 pm : link
@MetsGM says the Mets have 2 "starters" in the OF and you need "at least 3, we need 4, probably 5" (Gimme Locastro!)
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:15 pm : link
@MetsGM acknowledges he doesn't want the lineup to be overly LH (would be a clear knock against JBJ in CF). Payroll IS a consideration per Sandy
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:17 pm : link
@Metsgm "we're still looking for pitching"
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:18 pm : link
Sandy hopes to decide Lugo's role "going into" ST. Future moves will dictate his role
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:22 pm : link
Sounds very unlikely @Mets
chase JBJ. Sandy twice notes how they are overly LH
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:26 pm : link
For all of you @TheRealSmith2_ fans... "Dom's not going anywhere" straight from the horse's mouth... or Sandy
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:28 pm : link
Sandy hopes Dom will "not have to see LF", "hopefully the DH is back".
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:30 pm : link
Sandy on @Noahsyndergaard
"right now I expect him back in the June time-frame, that could move up, that could move back, that was the last projection that I saw..."
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Eric on Li : 1/12/2021 5:30 pm : link
In comment 15120423 DanMetroMan said:
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Jeff Zimmerman very high on Andres Gimenez "Jeff Zimmerman: I’m high on Gimenez. He was a glove first guy but seems to be getting some power. I noticed his max exit velo is inline with Freddie Freeman and other bats. He could very much produce like the Sox’s Anderson."


I continue to think he is going to surprise people. I don't expect him to ever hit 30 homers and maybe not even 20, but I think he is going to be a good hitter at the top of an order for a long time. And the defense could be gold glove or close. They traded him off as good of a debut as he could have had but I don't think it was a fluke - he's highly athletic and is one of those guys who just knows how to play the game.

For as many obvious tools as Rosario had, I don't think I ever really felt that way even when it looked like he was turning the corner in Aug 2019.
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Eric on Li : 1/12/2021 5:34 pm : link
In comment 15120473 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15120467 DanMetroMan said:


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If the numbers work we’d be interested but with Lindor he’s no longer a must have



Yeah, based on the phrasing it seems like the Mets are taking a Cespedes-like approach. Let him test the market and if he doesn't find what he wants, come back to us on our terms.


100% agree with this strategy. Right now they have 0 true CF'ers and 0 OF'ers signed beyond the next 2 years. If they can get one of the best CF'ers in the game at a fair price they have to do it.

Also the Realmuto comments make me wonder if they essentially chose Springer > Realmuto knowing they could only wait on 1 of them and wanted to start filling some of the other needs. There's no McCann-type alternative in CF and Springer can shift over to a corner so I can't really argue the logic of choosing him (especially in combo with McCann).
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:36 pm : link
Sandy "One of the things we want to be able to do is sustain excellence. Which we weren't able to do before. I think part of that was my fault, but part of that was a lack of infrastructure" (made sure to note it's not only about wealth of the owner) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:37 pm : link
In comment 15120521 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 15120467 DanMetroMan said:


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If the numbers work we’d be interested but with Lindor he’s no longer a must have



Yeah, based on the phrasing it seems like the Mets are taking a Cespedes-like approach. Let him test the market and if he doesn't find what he wants, come back to us on our terms.




100% agree with this strategy. Right now they have 0 true CF'ers and 0 OF'ers signed beyond the next 2 years. If they can get one of the best CF'ers in the game at a fair price they have to do it.

Also the Realmuto comments make me wonder if they essentially chose Springer > Realmuto knowing they could only wait on 1 of them and wanted to start filling some of the other needs. There's no McCann-type alternative in CF and Springer can shift over to a corner so I can't really argue the logic of choosing him (especially in combo with McCann).


He flat out said they think they have 2 starting OF's and joked "well we need 3, and we need 3, 4, and 5". Made clear he loves Dom Smith's bat and his impact on the team but ideally, Dom wouldn't see any LF.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:39 pm : link
sounded quite meh on JDD, that's my own personal take. With guys like Lugo and Dom, he sounded very complimentary, JDD was simply a guy who may or may not be forced into a less than ideal spot.
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Eric on Li : 1/12/2021 5:40 pm : link
In comment 15120523 DanMetroMan said:
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Sandy "One of the things we want to be able to do is sustain excellence. Which we weren't able to do before. I think part of that was my fault, but part of that was a lack of infrastructure" (made sure to note it's not only about wealth of the owner) #Mets


One of the most telling quotes from Sandy in his first run was when they asked if he was coming back after his treatment and he said "i'm not sure if I deserve to". That is rare introspection especially among an extremely accomplished person.

Looking back at how much talent is still in this org today thanks to him and what happened when the Wilpons were left to their own devices he was actually deserving of a bust in cooperstown lol
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Eric on Li : 1/12/2021 5:42 pm : link
In comment 15120525 DanMetroMan said:
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sounded quite meh on JDD, that's my own personal take. With guys like Lugo and Dom, he sounded very complimentary, JDD was simply a guy who may or may not be forced into a less than ideal spot.


His glove does not fit with what they are looking to do though the right handed bat may. I think Sandy probably doesn't want to junk a guy who could be part of the solution but also knows that glove at 3b is perhaps even less ideal than Dom in LF.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:45 pm : link
really sounds like he's a massive Dom fan (even while admitting he's "not an outfielder") so I only have that and Lugo to compare it to. But Davis it seemed like he was saying "well, for now, we have X and if he's the starter we will be okay". Sounded very down on team depth (OF in particular), bench, and that they will always look to add pitching.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:46 pm : link
be very surprised if the backup plan to Springer (as some have suggested) is JBJ. He seems pretty adamant that another lefty in the lineup isn't ideal
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Eric on Li : 1/12/2021 5:50 pm : link
In comment 15120532 DanMetroMan said:
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be very surprised if the backup plan to Springer (as some have suggested) is JBJ. He seems pretty adamant that another lefty in the lineup isn't ideal


After they give Lagares a ST invite he should tell Lindor 12 is his number.
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 5:55 pm : link
In comment 15120539 Eric on Li said:
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be very surprised if the backup plan to Springer (as some have suggested) is JBJ. He seems pretty adamant that another lefty in the lineup isn't ideal



After they give Lagares a ST invite he should tell Lindor 12 is his number.


Better not change his number, pulled the trigger on my first baseball jersey since 2000 (Piazza).
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Eric on Li : 1/12/2021 6:02 pm : link
In comment 15120542 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15120532 DanMetroMan said:


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be very surprised if the backup plan to Springer (as some have suggested) is JBJ. He seems pretty adamant that another lefty in the lineup isn't ideal



After they give Lagares a ST invite he should tell Lindor 12 is his number.



Better not change his number, pulled the trigger on my first baseball jersey since 2000 (Piazza).


I think you're safe.
"SUSTAINED EXCELLENCE"  
Gmanfandan : 1/12/2021 6:41 pm : link
can not wait until opening day!

Welcome back Sandy.

Welcome Francisco - McCann - Cookie


Who's next?
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DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 6:43 pm : link
In comment 15120583 Gmanfandan said:
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can not wait until opening day!

Welcome back Sandy.

Welcome Francisco - McCann - Cookie


Who's next?


Damn no love for Trevor May? Lol jk
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Eric on Li : 1/12/2021 6:46 pm : link
In comment 15120583 Gmanfandan said:
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can not wait until opening day!

Welcome back Sandy.

Welcome Francisco - McCann - Cookie


Who's next?


I think they are gonna end up with Springer unless some other team blows him away. Sustained excellence isn't putting yourself in a position where you could have an empty OF in 2 years.
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2021 7:32 pm : link
Hire Carter Capps (former P) in an unnamed coaching role
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