-Nothing too notable from the Lindor presser. Came off as affable and a good dude. Noted he's open to an extension but wants it done before some point in ST. It'll get done. Nitpicking but weird they didn't send him a jersey to throw on
-Carrasco presser at 1PM
-Hendriks 54 million guaranteed with CHW. He's the best RP in baseball. Their pen is loaded on paper. Would love to see the Mets add to the 3 good RP they have. Lugo/Diaz/May.
-Marlins and Sox have discussed Benintendi
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Regardless, I'd go Castro over Brach if they got a Wilson/Hand and couldn't keep both. Trade Brach for a bag of balls.
-Castro is out of options
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I doubt they put Peterson in the BP to open the season. They have very, very little SP depth. He'd likely be sent to Syracuse to pitch every 5th day and be the "next man" up.
Most teams can just go with a top 3 like ours and get by with the rest of the depth but management has emptied our farm system and there’s no help on the way. Unless Lugo is going to the rotation until Thor demonstrates that he’s healthy, the top need has to be another starting pitcher.
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Most teams can just go with a top 3 like ours and get by with the rest of the depth but management has emptied our farm system and there’s no help on the way. Unless Lugo is going to the rotation until Thor demonstrates that he’s healthy, the top need has to be another starting pitcher.
All of the writers seem to think Lugo will be in the pen (as he should). Heyman even indicated privately they have said as much.
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One solid reliever ala Hand or Wilson. Outside of that, I think you’re looking at minor league and ST invites. Don’t see them cutting or eating Betances or Familia. Brach is on a ML deal so he probably has an inside track as well. The loser of Matz/Peterson ends up as the long man when Thor returns.
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I doubt they put Peterson in the BP to open the season. They have very, very little SP depth. He'd likely be sent to Syracuse to pitch every 5th day and be the "next man" up.
Agreed. I am curious though if Matz and Peterson both start out in the rotation, both pitch decent, and Syndergaard rejoins in June, if Peterson would go down still. I guess he certainly could. I think most likely he sticks as the 5 and they push Matz to the pen.
Yup exactly that type. They are very likely to be last minute type signings for guys who are looking for jobs that don't have a ton of interest.
Before that I'd expect them to try to add to the BP and possibly add someone in the IF while they wait out the Springer market. Really stinks they weren't able to just claim Hand when he was available.
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Going to mention Rich Hill, hs buddies with Porter, credits Porter with saving his career while with Boston. Strong vs. lefties, yes he’s ancient and injury prone but that’s why he’d be a a cheap option. 1 season 4+ FIP since 2009
Yup exactly that type. They are very likely to be last minute type signings for guys who are looking for jobs that don't have a ton of interest.
Before that I'd expect them to try to add to the BP and possibly add someone in the IF while they wait out the Springer market. Really stinks they weren't able to just claim Hand when he was available.
My #1 guy in the "cheaper but has resume" bin is Yates, but it appears Yates STRONGLY prefers the WC so I don't think he's an option. That being said, there are a bunch of decent RP options out there. The more the merrier. I'd like Hand but at the right price, there are some legitimate red flags. I wouldn't go more than 2 years under any circumstances.
but I do think they will bring in at least 2 veterans to compete because a) Matz could be awful like last year and b) Peterson, like all young players, could regress (sort of like Gsellman year 2).
Further putting pressure on both needing to "win" their roster spots, Matz saves them a nice chunk of money if he doesn't make the roster out of ST and Peterson has options to provide depth from the minors without going through waivers.
Point being both are going to need to earn their spots in ST. As it should be. And I expect the Mets to try to find possible alternatives in the event either one doesn't earn their spot (or both). As they should.
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If the White Sox decline the option, they will be able to pay the $15 million buyout over the course of multiple years. But the incentive certainly is there for the team to pick it up. And by going that big, the White Sox get the best closer in baseball the last two seasons.
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The following players are expected to be Mets IFAs when IFA begins Friday:
RHP Elian Nunez
OF Johairo Cuevas
SS Diego Mosquera
OF Gustavo Marquez
SS Samuel Camacaro
RHP Lennerd Ramos
RHP Aaron Martinez
RHP Enderson Arevalo
LHP Inmer Lobo
C Ruben Tatis
OF Sebastian Castro
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The following players are expected to be Mets IFAs when IFA begins Friday:
RHP Elian Nunez
OF Johairo Cuevas
SS Diego Mosquera
OF Gustavo Marquez
SS Samuel Camacaro
RHP Lennerd Ramos
RHP Aaron Martinez
RHP Enderson Arevalo
LHP Inmer Lobo
C Ruben Tatis
OF Sebastian Castro
Is there any mechanism to roll the unused allocated IFA money over or do something else with it?
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lists none in the top 50. Reportedly the top bonus the Mets gave out was 600,000. Unclear who got it.
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The following players are expected to be Mets IFAs when IFA begins Friday:
RHP Elian Nunez
OF Johairo Cuevas
SS Diego Mosquera
OF Gustavo Marquez
SS Samuel Camacaro
RHP Lennerd Ramos
RHP Aaron Martinez
RHP Enderson Arevalo
LHP Inmer Lobo
C Ruben Tatis
OF Sebastian Castro
Is there any mechanism to roll the unused allocated IFA money over or do something else with it?
It can be traded but the return is generally very, very small because it's just pool money for this 12 month period. For example, the Braves traded Randy Ventura for 1.25 million in pool money, most recently the Pirates got 143,000 in pool money for Dyson who was hitting .143 at the time.
"But an agent, saying the Jays and Mets should not be the only teams involved for a player of Springer’s quality, predicted the player might get $170 million to $190 million in a five- or six-year deal."
2.) Hand 9-ish AAV
3.) Hill 4-ish base AAV + incentives
And then cut Matz in ST freeing up roughly 4 AAV.
It’s an agent so obviously they are living in an alternate reality where baseball didn’t get economically crushed last year.
2.) Hand 9-ish AAV
3.) Hill 4-ish base AAV + incentives
And then cut Matz in ST freeing up roughly 4 AAV.
There are bonus and extra figures that aren't public but for our purposes the Mets are between 23-28 million under the luxury tax as of today. So Springer (23 seems very low) but just going with your exercise, it would put the Mets either at the lux tax or 5 under. We can use the 28 million for these purposes...
So 28-23= +5, minus Matz = 9.2 (total), + Hand puts you at the lux tax limit. Hill would put you over. I also think 23 is very low on Springer. It's believed the Mets made him an offer in the 27 million dollar range as/is so Springer figures to clear 27-30 per.
It’s an agent so obviously they are living in an alternate reality where baseball didn’t get economically crushed last year.
He's suggesting other teams will/should eventually be involved. Who knows how true it is? (I still never count out the Dodgers or Angels for anything). The Dodgers have been hinting they are willing to toss out huge AAV's on short years, someone may bite. I'm not saying Springer takes 3 years 105 over X but it's also not crazy to believe he would.
2.) Hand 9-ish AAV
3.) Hill 4-ish base AAV + incentives
And then cut Matz in ST freeing up roughly 4 AAV.
This would be a nice way to finish the offseason. I think we’d have to trade Nimmo (wouldn’t be a dump, we’d get real assets back) or Betances (likely need to attach a small asset) to make the money work and add a tiny bit more IF depth.
But going off Rosenthal. 28 AAV and 6 years gets you to 168 million. So maybe that’s closer.
Either way, I don’t think we’d be significantly over the tax. It’s the future, I’d be more worried about.
Wow.....very interesting angle on Lindor's contract announcement date. I had no idea there was such a loop-hole. A loop-hole big enough to drive a $12 Million truck thru !!
That's what I love about these 'MLB Chat' threads.
Re : Rich Hill -- I'm warming up to this idea. I know he's up there in years. He may just be an oldie, but a goodie.
I think Big Lefty Pete's long term future may be in the pen....he should probably start getting used to that role. I will never forget his outing against the Braves last Sept. He sent MVP Freddie back to the dugout 3 times.
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2.) Hand 9-ish AAV
3.) Hill 4-ish base AAV + incentives
And then cut Matz in ST freeing up roughly 4 AAV.
I am pretty sure these moves would take them a few million over the LTT but they could do this and have $5m for in-season moves if they trade Betances.
He has a $6m salary which should be tradeable with a small asset attached, but counts 10.5m against the luxury tax (which makes him the ideal trade candidate for us).
I think this is what the Mets are hoping for to finish the offseason, though the price on Springer may be a little higher than 23m (though perhaps they can structure the contract creatively? We need to learn a whole new side of the CBA now that we have an owner actually willing to pay as much as possible for good players instead of the reverse).
I love the kid as a SP, especially if Matz spits the bit again.
You don't save all of the deferred money as some are suggesting. It's simply reduced by the terms of the discount rate. I believe the MLBPA's agreed upon discount rate is currently 5.4%
" Let’s use Max Scherzer’s contract as an example. In January 2015, the Nationals agreed to sign him to a 7 year/$210 million contract. As part of the agreement though, Scherzer deferred all of his normal compensation from 2019 to 2021 to be paid across seven years after his contract expires (Though he still receives $15 million each year as part of his original signing bonus.) By doing so, this reduces the NPV of the contract by ~$18.6 million helping the Nationals reduce their luxury tax hit by $2.65 million per season. This may not seem like a lot, but the Nationals are an organization that utilizes deferred compensation quite frequently. Scherzer, Ryan Zimmerman, Stephen Strasburg, Daniel Murphy, Patrick Corbin, and several others have all agreed to some sort of deferred compensation deal allowing to Nationals to fit in more high value contracts without exceeding the tax line."
I love the kid as a SP, especially if Matz spits the bit again.
Also worth noting anyone deemed a "long reliever" is simply someone not good enough to start. Long relievers are SP's that are not good enough to turnover a lineup and also not dominant enough to see late inning work. Peterson (like any P) could completely fall on his face, but multi-inning reliever isn't a long term role for a young/solid SP prospect. That's a role you may force him into with an in-season need but not a role you put him in to open a season. Including his time with the big club he's thrown 160 total innings above a-ball.
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1.) Springer 23-ish AAV
2.) Hand 9-ish AAV
3.) Hill 4-ish base AAV + incentives
And then cut Matz in ST freeing up roughly 4 AAV.
I am pretty sure these moves would take them a few million over the LTT but they could do this and have $5m for in-season moves if they trade Betances.
He has a $6m salary which should be tradeable with a small asset attached, but counts 10.5m against the luxury tax (which makes him the ideal trade candidate for us).
I think this is what the Mets are hoping for to finish the offseason, though the price on Springer may be a little higher than 23m (though perhaps they can structure the contract creatively? We need to learn a whole new side of the CBA now that we have an owner actually willing to pay as much as possible for good players instead of the reverse).
Yeah that’s one way. Maybe you could trade Familia too and eat a little there. Or you can just reduce the three players I mentioned. Instead of Hand, sign Wilson. Instead of Hill, bring in a Porcello type again. I think there’s probably a path to bring in Springer, round out the roster, and still be pretty close to the LT.
Betances saves just as much, probably has less of a chance of bouncing back just because of his velo issues, and is significantly cheaper for the team acquiring him.
When they talked about potential salary dump trades on the table my guess is they have something lined up for him if/when they sign a RP.
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Carlos Carrasco's first text after the trade came from his former division rival and new catcher, James McCann.
-The Marlins have had discussions with the Cubs about catcher Willson Contreras, according to SportsGrid’s Craig Mish (Twitter link). There isn’t any sense that a trade might be close, as Mish describes the situation as “very fluid” considering how “the Cubs have big decisions to make across the board” (namely, trade talks involving several of their veteran players).