Giants' Insider beat reporter Chris Bisignano. On one of their last 2 podcasts he said that he heard from "inside the building" that Beal did some things that made him persona non grata to the current coaching staff even before Beal opted out of the 2020 season.
He did not state anything more specifically than that, basically just saying he didn't expect Beal to be competing for the #2 outside CB starting role opposite James Bradberry in 2021, because of those (unspecified) actions prior to opting out.
IIRC his exact words were: "I don't expect Beal back for the 2021 season with the Giants."
Thought I'd pass that along. If DG is "hole filling" in this upcoming draft that puts the CB position on a higher tier of need, I imagine. Unless DG unearths another Bradberry in free agency.
Probably 100% correct anyway. My bad.
The 3 amigos.
Quincy Wilson.
He was a Colts 2nd draft pick who played very well his 1st year as a press corner. Colts defense changed and he had some injuries... was traded to the Jets, had a concession early and never saw field and was waived in November.
The 3 amigos.
That's what happens when you see a need and draft towards it. Get ready for more of that in the offensive skill positions this spring.
I am all in on a corner when they pick if it is BPA in round 1. Bradberry signed a three year deal and still young he may slow in a couple years.
Much rather identify a potential elite corner this draft than spend on another FA.
Quincy Wilson.
He was a Colts 2nd draft pick who played very well his 1st year as a press corner. Colts defense changed and he had some injuries... was traded to the Jets, had a concession early and never saw field and was waived in November.
Good pick up. That's really interesting. From the BBI scouting reports. "Wilson has played in 32 regular-season games with 11 starts, accruing 59 tackles, 8 pass defenses, and 2 interceptions." That's a guy with at least some potential and some experience. He Love and Yiadom are a reasonably interesting group.
People going crazy over DG trading a 3rd round pick for Leonard Williams when that same 3rd round pick more times than not is a 'Sam Beal' was always a head scratcher to me.
DG has struggled on Day 2.
Will H
Carter
Hill
Beal
Trade up for Baker
McKinney
Peart
McKinney is the only one with a chance to make a real impact going forward, possibly... and we truthfully have no idea about Peart... all I can say is 3rd Round OTs come around only once every 3 years or so... Terron Armstead and Orlando Brown are the only two good OTs taken in the 3rd round that I can remember over the last 7 years or so...
That's what happens when you see a need and draft towards it. Get ready for more of that in the offensive skill positions this spring.
I hope you're wrong but fear you're not.
That's what happens when you see a need and draft towards it. Get ready for more of that in the offensive skill positions this spring.
The bigger issue is that we can't identify talent consistently. When you're an inaccurate dart thrower, the only way you can hope for a hit is if you throw more darts.
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Beal, Ballentine.
The 3 amigos.
That's what happens when you see a need and draft towards it. Get ready for more of that in the offensive skill positions this spring.
Still have Julian Love!
Poof. Gone like Andy DuFrense
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The 3 amigos.//////////
That's what happens when you see a need and draft towards it. Get ready for more of that in the offensive skill positions this spring.
As vs, for example, Chiefs and Ravens, with strong rosters, can select specific types of players to plug into their systems and make the team stronger. We draft in the attempt to make the team less weak.
Unfortunately it sounds like his attitude is holding him back. He's got a great skillset from what I saw.
The guy was a pick near the bottom of the draft, and asked to start against the best.
Poof. Gone like Andy DuFrense
The whole point of cluster drafting is that you should be set at a position if one or two work out. When you cluster draft and they are all misses...well, it's not good.
The 3 amigos.
Combined, these 3 amigos cost the NY Giants a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and a 6th round pick.
Almost an entire draft wasted on crappy CB evaluations during a rebuild.
And I believe this, and if this is the case they've known this well over a year and probably has some impact on why they Added Ryan.
Unfortunately it sounds like his attitude is holding him back. He's got a great skillset from what I saw.
Not calling you a liar, but he never played. I don't know anything about him cause he was almost never captured on video playing football.
If I had to guess I'd say that 85% of 6th round draft picks don't even make the team, let alone sniff the NFL field. Let's relax on that.
CB or WR makes a lot a sense at 11/42. Its funny that three of the CB options have ex NFL star fathers: Patrick Surtain, Jaycee Horn, and Asante Samuel as a potential option in the 2nd. Surtain was my favorite player of the bunch, but Asante Samuel had my favorite moment.
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Out of the "Killer B's" I thought Beal had the most upside of any of them. This may sound like a weird comparison but he reminded me of Will Hill with his effortless athleticism.
Unfortunately it sounds like his attitude is holding him back. He's got a great skillset from what I saw.
Not calling you a liar, but he never played. I don't know anything about him cause he was almost never captured on video playing football.
LOL! Beal captured at mini camp in 2019
And I know this semantics, but Baker did not 'cost us a 2nd rounder." He was picked with the pick we were going to have in round 2.
That's like saying Eli cost us a 1st rounder in 2004.
The 3 amigos.
Ballentine was a 6th round pick. Unlike the other 2, he played his ass off, he just didn't have the talent. I still think he has value as a ST/dime CB.
It doesn't seem like Beal really wants to play. 3 years and we got nothing out of him.
If I had to guess I'd say that 85% of 6th round draft picks don't even make the team, let alone sniff the NFL field. Let's relax on that.
and that Baker was a terrible pick. What happened was off the field was poor judgement on his part, but he had no issues coming out of college, and one year with a coaching staff that did no teaching isnt enough to write any one off. It's too bad he didnt get to play under Graham and staff to see. and worse that he had that horrible injury in his first game back
And I know this semantics, but Baker did not 'cost us a 2nd rounder." He was picked with the pick we were going to have in round 2.
That's like saying Eli cost us a 1st rounder in 2004.
Baker cost a 2nd, 4th and 5th.
Those aren't semantics.
And I believe this, and if this is the case they've known this well over a year and probably has some impact on why they Added Ryan.
I like Julian Love a lot, but if he is our 2nd CB heading into next season, we're in a world of trouble. He's better off at safety, or as a rotational CB.
Giants need a boundary corner opposite Bradberry, depth and competition for nickel, et al.
And I know this semantics, but Baker did not 'cost us a 2nd rounder." He was picked with the pick we were going to have in round 2.
That is fair, and something people do too often, but trading up for Baker was a terrible waste of assets. Even if you like the guy a lot, there were other CB's who were just as good still on the board. Unless you think the guy is going to be a Darelle Revis, you don't trade up for a slight improvement, especially with a team with so many needs.
Don't follow...what bullsh___?
Giants picked him in first round. They got the pick from burning a 2nd, 4th and 5th.
The only guy left is Love.
Before Sam, the only other player the Giants took in Supplemental was one Tito Whooten in the 4th. That is it. No other players taken by the Giants in the Supplemental. That would be crazy. Certainly not the first round. Move along, nothing to see here.
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was a "waste of a pick?"
If I had to guess I'd say that 85% of 6th round draft picks don't even make the team, let alone sniff the NFL field. Let's relax on that.
and that Baker was a terrible pick. What happened was off the field was poor judgement on his part, but he had no issues coming out of college, and one year with a coaching staff that did no teaching isnt enough to write any one off. It's too bad he didnt get to play under Graham and staff to see. and worse that he had that horrible injury in his first game back
This +1
Guys like Coughlin, Brown, and Crowder are quite a bit like Ballentine. They are fringe players who got some burn because of injuries, but shouldn’t be penciled in as starters.