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Confidence going into Super Bowl XXV?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/12/2021 6:56 pm
How were you feeling? It's hard to believe, but we're only 15 days away from the anniversary of the game. I ask because I had the '90 Giants America Game on in the man cave earlier.

I don't really remember how I felt because I was so young, but just looking back at the particulars-backup QB facing a team coming off a 51-3 AFC Championship win/had beaten us in Giants Stadium only a month before-I probably wasn't thinking we were going to win.
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It's why I'm also a fan of the Patriots...  
Grey Pilgrim : 1/13/2021 11:48 am : link
The GIANTS don't win SB XXV without little bill.
RE: It's why I'm also a fan of the Patriots...  
Essex : 1/13/2021 11:53 am : link
In comment 15121137 Grey Pilgrim said:
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The GIANTS don't win SB XXV without little bill.

I know this is talked about a lot and BB's game plan is in the hall of fame, but the Bills scored 19 points in 19 minutes. The best defense we had that game was Time of Possession. The OLine and Otis Anderson just mauled them. That drive to start the second half was a beauty. I love BB for all his years here, I had his red starter jacket as a young kid in the 80s, but I often think he gets too much credit for this one (believe me, though, there so much to give him credit for in his years here).
RE: RE: It's why I'm also a fan of the Patriots...  
Victor in CT : 1/13/2021 11:59 am : link
In comment 15121149 Essex said:
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In comment 15121137 Grey Pilgrim said:


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The GIANTS don't win SB XXV without little bill.


I know this is talked about a lot and BB's game plan is in the hall of fame, but the Bills scored 19 points in 19 minutes. The best defense we had that game was Time of Possession. The OLine and Otis Anderson just mauled them. That drive to start the second half was a beauty. I love BB for all his years here, I had his red starter jacket as a young kid in the 80s, but I often think he gets too much credit for this one (believe me, though, there so much to give him credit for in his years here).


Yes. Erhardt's execution of Parcells' order to "shorten the game" doesn't get nearly the credit it deserves.
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Victor in CT : 1/13/2021 12:02 pm : link
In comment 15121127 truebluelarry said:
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wasn't this still back during that period when the NFC was still head and shoulders better than the AFC? The NFC dominance I thought lasted all the way up until '98 and then shifted with Elway winning 2 in a row and then of course the rise of the Pats. That would've made me think back then that if the Giants could get through the NFC playoffs they could beat just about any AFC team, no?



Part of the Bills hype was they were going to break the NFC's SB streak in that they were similar to and NFC team in that Buffalo is a cold weather city, they could run the ball with Thomas and the defense with Bruce Smith was good. In fact, Smith wasn't shy about telling anyone with a mic that he was better than LT and Reggie White.



In addition, Buffalo was 3-1 vs the NFC East that year, with the only loss coming Week 17 at Washington in a game that was meaningless for the Bills as they had already locked up the #1 seed in the AFC. I don't recall if they rested any starters for that game or not though.


The Giants were pushing them around pretty good though in that game at Giants Stadium until Simms got hurt, and then IIRC Hampton left the game too.
I thought we were gonna get our butts kicked  
butler : 1/13/2021 12:28 pm : link
Buffalo was really good. I remember I was all set to watch the game on the big screen TV at my frat house but I got a late start so I ran downstairs and started watching it on the dinky TV in my dorm common room thinking I would hightail it to my house (which was literally across the street from the dorm) during a commercial break. Well, with the game going surprisingly well and the G-Men keeping it close I was too scared to jinx it so I stayed and watched the whole game practically by myself :)

I got called out about that for a while afterwards and felt stupid so the next time the Giants made it the Super Bowl I decided to go to a party. After that debacle and how shitty it was seeing my team get blown out amongst a bunch of jag offs talking about the commercials and telling me to calm down, I didn't fell dumb any more! :)

My father-in-law had Super Bowl parties for the last two Bowls and there was no way I was going so I watched both of those by myself while my wife and kids went to NJ. I still get crap for that too but I don't care. And you're welcome!!
my confidence was low  
markky : 1/13/2021 12:30 pm : link
i didn't think we had the offense to hang with them. i didn't count on the Giants eating all of the clock and Bill B's plan to punish the receivers going over the middle. we won because of brilliant up front planning.
Confident. About 75% confident.  
x meadowlander : 1/13/2021 1:16 pm : link
Because I felt the Giants had already beaten the best team in the league - one of the best teams ever, stopped the 3-peat, did it IN SAN FRANCISCO.

At that point, the AFC was a lower-level league. The NFC had already won 6 straight Superbowl wins, in the middle of a 13 straight year run of such wins and this was not by fluke. The NFC had franchises that were simply that much stronger. Niners, Bears, Redskins, Giants, later Cowboys and Packers added to the dogpile - until Plan B Free Agency began breaking these teams up, they were taking the Lombardi year after year.

So in 1990 - yes, we knew the Bills had a dangerous offense, but the Giants had already faced the Bills and only lost by 4, despite losing Simms in that game - indeed, in that game, the Giants led in all offensive categories.

A loss would have been an upset, IMO.
I was in 6th grade  
rsjem1979 : 1/13/2021 1:25 pm : link
So I had all the irrational confidence that comes with being an 11-year-old who watched Matt Bahr's kick the week before through his fingers while crouched next to the couch.

I remember being so angry after the loss to Buffalo during the regular season when Simms broke his leg that I literally ripped his poster off my wall (I later taped it back up).

I also remember that my friend Nick and I bet our friends (twin brothers, Bears fans) $2 each that the Giants would win. Pretty sweet collecting on that bet on Monday.
Bruce Smith was an incredible pass rusher  
Greg from LI : 1/13/2021 1:27 pm : link
But, as an all-around player, he wasn't close to LT. The Giants ran right at him over and over again on those two long drives in the Super Bowl. No one ran at LT.
RE: Bruce Smith was an incredible pass rusher  
Victor in CT : 1/13/2021 1:59 pm : link
In comment 15121265 Greg from LI said:
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But, as an all-around player, he wasn't close to LT. The Giants ran right at him over and over again on those two long drives in the Super Bowl. No one ran at LT.


damn straight!
Bills had 4 HOFers on offense!  
Alan W : 1/13/2021 5:02 pm : link
and from Wikipedia:

"David Halberstam wrote that one of defensive coordinator Bill Belichick's specific plans to combat the Bills involved convincing his defense (who had been the best unit against the run in the NFL that season) that they would win the game if Thurman Thomas ran for more than 100 yards. Belichick also felt that Jim Kelly was not as good at reading defenses as some other elite quarterbacks were (for example, Joe Montana), and that Kelly tended to "freeze" what he was seeing from a series and then use that information on the next one, which meant the Giants could be a step ahead of him all game if they alternated their cover plans from drive to drive."
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