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Gregory Rousseau - what do you think?

cosmicj : 1/12/2021 9:22 pm
Not a college football obsessive but here’s my assessment:

1) his opting out made him a massive scouting risk. I think the highest he’ll go is #15 and more likely in the 20s.
2) not a quick twitch type. A pro body, very smooth, but his quickness doesn’t jump off the screen at me.
3) many of his sacks came from a 3-point stance playing inside and beating the RG. That means to me the Hurricane coaches needed to scheme to create a mismatch, rather than just play him in an edge role and wreak havoc.
4) on the other hand, a talented tackler. In fact, watching him I was unenthused by him as a pass rusher but thought he was intriguing as a standard LB. He has the chance to be a cornerstone versatile LB who gets some sacks but is not a pass rush specialist.

What do you think of Rousseau? (I don’t think he fits with the Giants plans, btw, so this is more a general eval. )
Watched highlights only admittedly  
GiantNatty : 1/12/2021 9:26 pm : link
And my concern is how he would stack up against the run...
Know very little about him...  
Pete in CO : 1/12/2021 9:33 pm : link
I thought he was moved to ER as a soph or junior and had a terrific season. But not a large body of work. If true, that doesn't sound like a player in whom DG would have great confidence.
I'm all for getting Zaven Collins.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/12/2021 9:38 pm : link
Someone pointed him out this year and, man, what a versatile defender. A coach like Graham would cream him pants trying to think of ways to use him. A 260 pound defender that can cover and rush the passer? Sign me up.
I have trouble seeing  
Sammo85 : 1/12/2021 9:57 pm : link
Judge and Graham push for the player and as a fit. They run a lot of multiple fronts and I think they favor situational and rotational edge guys to provide pass rush and move them around.

DG was with the Giants when they went pass rusher crazy but that was with a traditional 4-3 base D that Spags innovated off of a bit and that was a ways back. I could see Reese/Ross front office salivating over even just the one year of production just like they did with JPP.

I'd be surprised with Rousseau. Not saying he's not a talent but not sure it's with us and the kind of D and players they're looking to mold into it.
RE: I'm all for getting Zaven Collins.  
Sammo85 : 1/12/2021 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15120723 robbieballs2003 said:
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Someone pointed him out this year and, man, what a versatile defender. A coach like Graham would cream him pants trying to think of ways to use him. A 260 pound defender that can cover and rush the passer? Sign me up.


Yep. That's the kind of second level defender I see them gravitating towards in the draft under Judge.
I'm more of a Azeez Ojulari guy...  
bw in dc : 1/12/2021 10:03 pm : link
as an edge prospect.

I definitely like Rousseau better than Paye - who does nothing for me - and think he is interesting because he can play a variety of positions. Which makes you think he could be very appealing to Judge who wants players who have variety.

The guy is a giraffe who sort of reminds me of Randy Gregory and looks like he could play TE or the 4 in the NBA. When I watched him I saw a guy who won on his natural ability more than technique. So there could be a lot of upside with NFL coaching.

DE  
BradberryGlue : 1/12/2021 10:18 pm : link
I see him more as a DE than a standup OLB. If they let Williams walk and focus on offense in FA I’d have interest in him as Williams replacement. We were 31st in offense I don’t see how they do enough prior to round 1 to take anything other than a playmaker. You win with offense in this league. Our D can play with the teams remaining, our offense isn’t close. It needs drastic improvement.
One year wonder in college  
superspynyg : 1/12/2021 10:22 pm : link
Last offseason i wanted to sign Bud Dupree and most of you said he was inly a one year wonder and did not want to take the chance
Caleb Farley  
SleepyOwl : 1/12/2021 10:43 pm : link
aka Rod Woodson Jr.
If Tomlinson walks, is Rousseau his potential replacement?  
81_Great_Dane : 1/12/2021 10:50 pm : link
Tomlinson is a stud, underrated on BBI. With Rousseau you might get more pass rush but he's not as stout against the run.

He'll almost certainly be available at 11; is he worth that pick? He will almost certainly be gone when the Giants are on the clock in the 2nd.
Miami Alum - Watched Every Game of his last year  
DaddyM89 : 1/12/2021 11:18 pm : link
He is an absolute force getting to the passer. Concern as others stated is against the run and having only one year of tape. Really wish he had played this year. Very much boom or bust prospect. Could emerge as a top 5 Edge rusher or be out of the league in 3-4 years. Not sure he warrants the 11th overall pick, but the homer in me kind of wants to take the risk. Rather get one of the top 3 WRs if one is still there.
RE: RE: I'm all for getting Zaven Collins.  
Everyone Relax : 1/13/2021 8:43 am : link
In comment 15120736 Sammo85 said:
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In comment 15120723 robbieballs2003 said:


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Someone pointed him out this year and, man, what a versatile defender. A coach like Graham would cream him pants trying to think of ways to use him. A 260 pound defender that can cover and rush the passer? Sign me up.



Yep. That's the kind of second level defender I see them gravitating towards in the draft under Judge.

Big fan of Zaven Collins, and I've also been watching a lot of Boogie Basham highlights and love his game as well.
Basham is huge and nasty and has that quick twitch you love from an edge rusher. His only problem is that he's project more to be a 4-3 DE.
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I watched his highlights  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/13/2021 8:54 am : link
meh?

I wanted to see him really take it to OTs with speed and power but that was rare. Seem like a big project.
R Weaver @ Pitt  
MotownGIANTS : 1/13/2021 9:08 am : link
is the pick for a DE ... he has the best CONSISTENCY and has rge highest floor of the lot ... wasting the 11th pick would be horrible for us.
R Weaver @ Pitt  
MotownGIANTS : 1/13/2021 9:14 am : link
is the pick for a DE ... he has the best CONSISTENCY and has the highest floor of the lot ... wasting the 11th pick would be horrible for us.
Rousseau reminds me a bit of  
Section331 : 1/13/2021 9:14 am : link
Shaq Lawson, a guy I really liked coming out of Clemson a few years back. A good all-around DL, but not an elite pass rusher. Kind of a poor man's Leonard Williams.

Rousseau probably isn't as good against the run as Shaq, and almost certainly not as good as LW, so I wouldn't go for him at 11.
Rousseau is 265 lbs  
cosmicj : 1/13/2021 9:24 am : link
He is not the same type of player as Williams. I don't get the comp at all.
I see Chandler Jones.  
mittenedman : 1/13/2021 9:35 am : link
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Suspect the paradigm looks a bit different now  
JonC : 1/13/2021 9:38 am : link
in terms of what they look for. They're looking for physicality, multiple, instinctive, scheme diverse. Rousseau has an interesting tool set but plays more like Isaiah Simmons. Also agree he needed to play in '20 and opting out could drop him a bit.
RE: Rousseau is 265 lbs  
Section331 : 1/13/2021 9:42 am : link
In comment 15120929 cosmicj said:
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He is not the same type of player as Williams. I don't get the comp at all.


I mean more in the sense that they are all hand in the dirt players. If we're going to continue using the Buck concept, we're going to want an ER who can play standing up.
Rousseau  
stretch234 : 1/13/2021 11:34 am : link
He played 14 career games. 4 of these were Savannah St, La Tech, FIU and Central Michigan.

Was he a dominant player or a guy who had 3-4 good games

Risky at 11
RE: One year wonder in college  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/13/2021 11:41 am : link
In comment 15120752 superspynyg said:
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Last offseason i wanted to sign Bud Dupree and most of you said he was inly a one year wonder and did not want to take the chance


When was Dupree a one-year wonder?? He played extensively all 4 years in college.
RE: RE: One year wonder in college  
bw in dc : 1/13/2021 1:05 pm : link
In comment 15121133 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 15120752 superspynyg said:


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Last offseason i wanted to sign Bud Dupree and most of you said he was inly a one year wonder and did not want to take the chance



When was Dupree a one-year wonder?? He played extensively all 4 years in college.


Right. That makes no sense at all. Dupree was pretty consistent his entire time in Lexington.
He seems like  
ryanmkeane : 1/13/2021 1:21 pm : link
the Taco Charlton pick of the first round. Someone will "have" to take him, but I think he's going to disappoint.
i don't like betting on guys  
ryanmkeane : 1/13/2021 1:23 pm : link
that basically have to put everything together in order to become really good. I like taking guys that are already good but also have a really high ceiling.
ryan  
JonC : 1/13/2021 1:43 pm : link
that's an interesting contrast with your normal very optimistic perspective regarding players already on the roster, and how they'll develop and contribute to the team's success. It's all a calculated risk/gamble.
RE: He seems like  
bw in dc : 1/13/2021 1:53 pm : link
In comment 15121256 ryanmkeane said:
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the Taco Charlton pick of the first round. Someone will "have" to take him, but I think he's going to disappointmental


Really? Charlton? Didn't see much variety with him at Michigan...

I said last night that Roussea may appeal to Judge/Graham because he looks to be a player who you can line up in various positions. That's a big deal. Plus, GR has a body type to get even bigger and he's still learning the art of pass rushing.

I'm not sure I see him as a top 15 prospect but a legit case could be made that he's worth the stretch.
i don't like him  
Platos : 1/13/2021 1:59 pm : link
i kind of don't like any of the guys that opted out this year.
RE: ryan  
ryanmkeane : 1/13/2021 2:00 pm : link
In comment 15121285 JonC said:
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that's an interesting contrast with your normal very optimistic perspective regarding players already on the roster, and how they'll develop and contribute to the team's success. It's all a calculated risk/gamble.

Jon - to be fair, Gettleman has drafted guys in rounds 1-3 that seem to have high floors. That was my main point.
to me  
ryanmkeane : 1/13/2021 2:01 pm : link
Rousseau has a really low floor, which would be the reason DG would stay away from him in round 1, IMO
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