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Coaching info/updates (Jets, Lions, Texans, Eagles, Jaguars)

Vin_Cuccs : 1/13/2021 8:42 am
The Eagles most recent list of coaching candidates is as follows:
Lincoln Riley
Todd Bowles
Arthur Smith
Robert Saleh
Jerod Mayo
Luke Fickell
Mike Kafka
Duce Staley
Joe Brady
Brian Daboll

Robert Saleh’s in-person interview for the Jets is now in its second day. He is the clear favorite, and they will try to have him sign by the end of the day.

The Jaguars are squarely focused on Urban Meyer, and that looks likely, but if that falls apart due to money, Robert Saleh would be their next option. Apparently the two sides are close, but some details still need to be worked out.

The Lions top choice seems to be Robert Saleh, but that looks unlikely at this moment. Darrell Bevell, Todd Bowles, and Marvin Lewis are also thought to be very high on the list. After initially be interested in college coaches, names like Matt Campbell, Lincoln Riley, and Pat Fitzgerald are no longer candidates for the Lions.

Jim Caldwell is emerging as a strong candidate in Houston. Matt Eberflus, Brian Daboll, and Joe Brady are all on the Texans list as well. They are also very interested in Robert Saleh, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen, at least not at this point.

And then there is Eric Bieniemy...this is quite a strange situation. After garnering some initial interest in the past hiring cycle, as well as this year, it seems like he isn’t too high on most lists. Very peculiar...
For Bieniemy, the problem  
section125 : 1/13/2021 8:48 am : link
is the playoffs. They cannot interview him because the Chiefs are still playing.

Someone will wait, maybe the Eagles.
Eagles may be in the enviable position of having a prime candidate  
Ivan15 : 1/13/2021 9:03 am : link
On staff and not going anywhere else. They can take some time to interview all the candidates and still hire Staley.
I feel like the "hot O/D coordinator"  
Chris684 : 1/13/2021 9:06 am : link
is becoming an avenue that I'd be less likely to pursue.

Sure there are some guys that work since that is where the majority of these hires come from but I feel like they all get cycled through with a lot of them not working out. Everyone wants the popular names coming from the best teams but how much do the players they "coordinate" have to do with that?

Recently you've had guys like Vrabel, Judge and Flores who weren't coordinators or at least not offensive or defensive coordinators who are well on their way.

My criteria for a head coach would be young, playing experience at least at college level, and I'd be looking at special teams coaches/position coaches that get the most out of their units league wide.

If I was the Jets I'd take a long look at Aaron Glenn.
Marvin Lewis  
Reale01 : 1/13/2021 9:07 am : link
I would think he would be an excellent DC hire.
Duce is highly thought  
Big Blue '56 : 1/13/2021 9:13 am : link
of in circles
RE: I feel like the  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/13/2021 9:19 am : link
In comment 15120890 Chris684 said:
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is becoming an avenue that I'd be less likely to pursue.

Sure there are some guys that work since that is where the majority of these hires come from but I feel like they all get cycled through with a lot of them not working out. Everyone wants the popular names coming from the best teams but how much do the players they "coordinate" have to do with that?

Recently you've had guys like Vrabel, Judge and Flores who weren't coordinators or at least not offensive or defensive coordinators who are well on their way.

My criteria for a head coach would be young, playing experience at least at college level, and I'd be looking at special teams coaches/position coaches that get the most out of their units league wide.

If I was the Jets I'd take a long look at Aaron Glenn.


Finding the right HC is a crapshoot though. They can come from anywhere. Coordinators might look like they fail - but that's also because most of the guys getting hired were in that role.

Kevin Stefanski was an OC. Meanwhile, Zac Taylor was just a QB coach. Even guys who were successful HC's in college have a tough time making the move. It's all about fit and vision, and those are two things really tough to pull off and know when you hire a guy that he has it.
RE: Marvin Lewis  
Sammo85 : 1/13/2021 9:28 am : link
In comment 15120892 Reale01 said:
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I would think he would be an excellent DC hire.


He seems to be holding out and will only be a HC again. If he gets itch, maybe he budges and takes DC job somewhere, but I doubt it.
I am really surprised that Joe Brady  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 1/13/2021 9:44 am : link
is on everybody's list. So many jobs in such a short time period (even if ascending) seems really off to me in terms of the kind of person you want running a team..
I do not see Lincoln Riley  
johnnyb : 1/13/2021 9:53 am : link
leaving his Oklahoma gig. He has it pretty good and he gets paid NFL like money.
RE: I am really surprised that Joe Brady  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/13/2021 9:56 am : link
In comment 15120968 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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is on everybody's list. So many jobs in such a short time period (even if ascending) seems really off to me in terms of the kind of person you want running a team..


Agree. Also odd because his offense in Carolina was mediocre to poor. And Bridgewater regressed mightily in the 2nd half of the season.
I think Marvin Lewis  
rasbutant : 1/13/2021 10:20 am : link
would be a great college head coach. He could really do a lot of good for a lot of young men.

I think he'd be a good NFL hire as well, not flashy so lots of people wouldn't like it. But I just think college is where he could do the most good in the world.
RE: For Bieniemy, the problem  
Dankbeerman : 1/13/2021 10:24 am : link
In comment 15120865 section125 said:
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is the playoffs. They cannot interview him because the Chiefs are still playing.

Someone will wait, maybe the Eagles.


Dont get it. Fire Reid, hire his OC in Peterson, fire peterson, bring in his replacement at OC under Reid.

Mayo is my boy!  
Pete in MD : 1/13/2021 10:25 am : link
Not really, we worked for the same company after he retired and before he went into coaching and I sat next to him at a conference. (Cool story, bro.)
RE: I think Marvin Lewis  
RUNYG : 1/13/2021 11:16 am : link
In comment 15121015 rasbutant said:
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would be a great college head coach. He could really do a lot of good for a lot of young men.

I think he'd be a good NFL hire as well, not flashy so lots of people wouldn't like it. But I just think college is where he could do the most good in the world.

I agree.

I know many people bashed him towards the end of his Bengals days but they probably just moved on too late. Sure, he didn’t have playoff success but he turned that franchise around and had some great seasons in a division with the Steelers and Ravens at their peaks.

I honestly think he would be a good hire for the Jets. Jets fan would likely barf but the franchise has been a joke for a decade now and Lewis would bring some leadership and accountability. Then you make him hire good coordinators and maybe you have your next HC already there whenever he hangs them up.
Latest I heard  
BradberryGlue : 1/13/2021 11:27 am : link
Meyer to Jags and Saleh to Jets are close

Texans is Caldwell v Bienemy

Falcons favorite is Joe Brady

Chargers favorite is Brian Daboll who has Matt Patricia as his DC

Eagles still very early in process

Lions seem scattered, I think they’ll end up deciding between the DCs Eberflus, Martindale, and the Rams guy
Bienemy is going to lose out  
RUNYG : 1/13/2021 12:27 pm : link
Another year at a HC gig.

Have yet to hear any traction of him anywhere. Maybe ATL the most if any. I don’t know if it’s hesitancy from teams from something in interviews or he is holding out for the perfect opportunity.
Bienemy to the Eagles  
Dnew15 : 1/13/2021 12:41 pm : link
looks and sounds a lot like what they did last time.

Minus the Chip Kelly era - It might as well be as if Andy Reid never left.
Marvin Lewis  
John In CO : 1/13/2021 1:36 pm : link
I really dont think a lot of people know this...and I didnt until I attended an ASU game in 2019 and the two of them walked together right in front of me, but Marvin Lewis has been a Co-DC with Antonio Pierce on Herm Edwards staff at ASU for the past 2 seasons. So he really hasnt been "away" from coaching...NFL yes, College no.
league can't figure out a way  
bc4life : 1/13/2021 1:56 pm : link
to allow playoff coaches to interview?

really, it's that difficult?
Eagles now interested in Ohio State coach Ryan Day.  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/13/2021 1:59 pm : link
He was the QB coach in Philadelphia in 2015.
Robert Saleh has left the Jets facility without a deal.  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/13/2021 3:06 pm : link
They are bringing in other finalists for second interviews.
RE: I feel like the  
mitch300 : 1/13/2021 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15120890 Chris684 said:
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is becoming an avenue that I'd be less likely to pursue.

Sure there are some guys that work since that is where the majority of these hires come from but I feel like they all get cycled through with a lot of them not working out. Everyone wants the popular names coming from the best teams but how much do the players they "coordinate" have to do with that?

Recently you've had guys like Vrabel, Judge and Flores who weren't coordinators or at least not offensive or defensive coordinators who are well on their way.

My criteria for a head coach would be young, playing experience at least at college level, and I'd be looking at special teams coaches/position coaches that get the most out of their units league wide.

If I was the Jets I'd take a long look at Aaron Glenn.

Exactly. It’s not like who hires bienemy is also getting Mahomes and Kelcie.
Why would anyone want Todd Bowles?  
jnoble : 1/13/2021 6:36 pm : link
He brought the Jets to exactly zero playoff games in 4 seasons
RE: Marvin Lewis  
Gruber : 1/14/2021 9:09 am : link
In comment 15121276 John In CO said:
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I really dont think a lot of people know this...and I didnt until I attended an ASU game in 2019 and the two of them walked together right in front of me, but Marvin Lewis has been a Co-DC with Antonio Pierce on Herm Edwards staff at ASU for the past 2 seasons. So he really hasnt been "away" from coaching...NFL yes, College no.


Marvin Lewis. I could see the Lions appointing him. No idea if he would get them into the play-offs, though. No one else has managed it since about the nineteenth century.
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