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NFT: 2021 NHL Seasons Begins Tonight

pjcas18 : 1/13/2021 10:34 am
56 game regular season

Division realignment (pasted below in an image).

Tonights games:
Penguins vs Flyers (5:30PM)
Maple Leafs vs Canadiens (7:00PM)
Lightning vs Blackhawks (8:00PM)
Oilers vs Canucks (10:00PM)
Avalanche vs Blues (10:30PM)

Tomorrow:
Devils vs Bruins (7:00PM)
Rangers vs Islanders (7:00PM)
Sabres vs Capitals (7:00PM)
Red Wings vs Hurricanes (7:30PM)
Jets vs Flames (8:00PM)
Predators vs Blue Jackets (8:00PM)
Coyotes vs Sharks (9:00PM)
Oilers vs Canucks (9:00PM)
Golden Knights vs Ducks (10:00PM)
Kings vs Wild (10:00PM)

I think Ottawa is the only team not to open until Friday
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Good news Stu  
Jay on the Island : 1/18/2021 5:17 pm : link
The Devils have claimed goalie Aaron Dell on waivers. The Devils now have a decent backup goaltender for when Blackwood needs a night off. Dell has only a 800K cap hit and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Devils give him a 1 year extension for the expansion draft.

The backup goaltender spot killed the Devils last season which is why they were willing to pay Crawford. After he retired I feared more of the same but at least Dell provides stability.
Belarus taking some lumps  
pjcas18 : 1/18/2021 7:14 pm : link
due to COVID and politics.

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Goal!!!  
pjcas18 : 1/18/2021 7:28 pm : link
JGP?
RE: Goal!!!  
pjcas18 : 1/18/2021 7:30 pm : link
In comment 15127293 pjcas18 said:
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JGP?


yep, he batted it out of the air.

4 min from another Bruins loss. Even if the Bruins and Habs are in different divisions I'm obviously rooting for B's losses.
bruins  
KDubbs : 1/18/2021 8:01 pm : link
still no even strength goals this year
Varlamov  
pjcas18 : 1/18/2021 8:06 pm : link
was great in this game.

Hate to make excuses for the 2nd Rangers game (or any game) and I'm sure Sorokin will be good, but have to wonder if a goalie getting knocked out 15 before a game has an emotional impact on the team. Hate to think so with a veteran team coached by someone like Trotz, but who knows.

RE: Good news Stu  
Stu11 : 1/18/2021 10:26 pm : link
In comment 15127183 Jay on the Island said:
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The Devils have claimed goalie Aaron Dell on waivers. The Devils now have a decent backup goaltender for when Blackwood needs a night off. Dell has only a 800K cap hit and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Devils give him a 1 year extension for the expansion draft.

The backup goaltender spot killed the Devils last season which is why they were willing to pay Crawford. After he retired I feared more of the same but at least Dell provides stability.

Yep saw that. Excellent move. He is what he is, a solid NHL back up. Looking forward to playing the Rangers tomorrow. Always nice to have an early season game with some juice.
Flyers  
pjcas18 : 1/18/2021 10:27 pm : link
looks like cup contender through a couple games, then get blown off the ice by the Sabres.

Any team can win in hockey - the short season will make every game that much more important.
Alexander  
pjcas18 : 1/19/2021 9:22 am : link
Romanov looks every bit as good as advertised.

Immediate top pair D, he hits, he defends, he's mobile and has a cannon for a shot. Reminds me of Charlie McCavoy.


RE: Alexander  
Jay on the Island : 1/19/2021 10:56 am : link
In comment 15127622 pjcas18 said:
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Romanov looks every bit as good as advertised.

Immediate top pair D, he hits, he defends, he's mobile and has a cannon for a shot. Reminds me of Charlie McCavoy.


I’ve been very impressed with Romanov. He was a great pick by Montreal and appears to be a legit top pairing defenseman.
RE: RE: Alexander  
Stu11 : 1/19/2021 12:01 pm : link
In comment 15127742 Jay on the Island said:
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Romanov looks every bit as good as advertised.

Immediate top pair D, he hits, he defends, he's mobile and has a cannon for a shot. Reminds me of Charlie McCavoy.




I’ve been very impressed with Romanov. He was a great pick by Montreal and appears to be a legit top pairing defenseman.

Absolutely. Montreal has quietly built a damn good hockey team.
RE: RE: RE: Alexander  
Jay on the Island : 1/19/2021 12:35 pm : link
In comment 15127858 Stu11 said:
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Absolutely. Montreal has quietly built a damn good hockey team.

Not too long ago I thought that they were headed for a real rough period due to the enormous cap hits of players like Price and Weber. Price has played close to the level that we expect and Weber is still a top pairing defenseman. The FO has drafted well and now they have a young star in Romanov on the blue line. They have a great goalie duo of Price and Allen.

The Canadiens struggled with their backup goaltender spot last season similar to the Devils. Adding Jake Allen was a great move especially after his strong playoff performance. Now Montreal has the luxury of resting Price frequently.
I do think MTL  
pjcas18 : 1/19/2021 12:42 pm : link
will be in for a rough patch because of Weber and Price (both have 5 more years AFTER this year) especially if the cap doesn't go up.

And the low point I think was trading Sergachev for Drouin and then struggling so bad on the blue line. But Bergevin has rebounded with the Pacioretty trade, Shaw trade, even the Domi trade and flipping Domi for Anderson. He's been strong in the draft too.

This year though specifically, they have a nice mix of youth and veterans, skill and grit. If they stay healthy and get some puck luck they can do some damage.
NHL having a lot of early  
pjcas18 : 1/20/2021 7:14 pm : link
season COVID issues.
I'm sort of surprised they didn't just jump the line and get everyone vaccinated.

Not sure how much flexibility they have in scheduling.

Stars have had issues, Preds, and more.

Greg Wyshynski
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Evgeny Kuznetsov, Dmitry Orlov, Alex Ovechkin (!), Ilya Samsonov of @Capitals are all on the NHL "COVID Protocol Related Absences" list. Wow.
NHL not pleased  
pjcas18 : 1/20/2021 7:20 pm : link
Seems like players should be allowed to hang out together  
pjcas18 : 1/20/2021 8:19 pm : link
I don't know I understand this policy.

And Ovie's apology reads to me like a giant FU

.  
pjcas18 : 1/21/2021 1:18 pm : link
Tarik El-Bashir
@Tarik_ElBashir
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2m
Laviolette said that Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Orlov and Samsonov will miss four games and then it's under review. #Caps
This makes no sense to me.  
rnargi : 1/21/2021 1:21 pm : link
At all.

I may be missing something, but how is practicing/playing with these guys (and opponents) any different from hanging out in the hotel. I'm not being factitious. I seriously don't get it.
RE: .  
JayBinQueens : 1/21/2021 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15129955 pjcas18 said:
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Tarik El-Bashir
@Tarik_ElBashir
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2m
Laviolette said that Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Orlov and Samsonov will miss four games and then it's under review. #Caps


Missing 2 games against the Isles... I'll take it
RE: This makes no sense to me.  
pjcas18 : 1/21/2021 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15129957 rnargi said:
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At all.

I may be missing something, but how is practicing/playing with these guys (and opponents) any different from hanging out in the hotel. I'm not being factitious. I seriously don't get it.


there is no scientific reason, no reason other than "that's the protocol"
Leafs and Habs should be 1,2  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2021 1:30 pm : link
But I don’t take anyone for granted. Habs goaltending is better and they have two of them.

Like I previously said, Habs have improved the most this offseason....
Anderson
Toffoli
Edmundson
Romanov brought up
Allen
Even Perry will contribute when there is an injury

But, having said that......Jonathan Drouin can kill you! Don’t let him, pj!
Drouin  
pjcas18 : 1/21/2021 1:41 pm : link
has been good so far.

Price two out of three starts has given up 5 goals.

He can't carry a team giving up 5 goals.
Jake the Snake tonight  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2021 5:31 pm : link
What a blessing to have him replace King Carey!

I agree, CP has not been his usual wow self, but I saw the highlights of last night’s game and I couldn’t fault him on any one of them. Great passing, point blank, power plays on some. But, we both have seen him still make great saves even when it looks grim for him.

So pj....play along with me here.....If my Leafs would like Suzuki and Allen. Who do you want in return?
RE: Jake the Snake tonight  
pjcas18 : 1/21/2021 5:48 pm : link
In comment 15130238 5BowlsSoon said:
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What a blessing to have him replace King Carey!

I agree, CP has not been his usual wow self, but I saw the highlights of last night’s game and I couldn’t fault him on any one of them. Great passing, point blank, power plays on some. But, we both have seen him still make great saves even when it looks grim for him.

So pj....play along with me here.....If my Leafs would like Suzuki and Allen. Who do you want in return?


Oh, yeah, no fault on Price for at least 3 of the goals, they were PP goals and just poorly defended resulting in point blank shots.

I don't think Suzuki is a player that can really be traded.

He might be the most important Canadiens player right now. 21 year old, legit 1C, plays a solid D game and oozes skill and creativity in the o zone.

Signed for low $$$ the next few years.

How do you match up with that?

He's more valuable to the habs than whatever is realistic for them to get back in a trade.

He's not in McDavid category and never will be, but he could aspire to be in Patrice Bergeron class and that's who he reminds me of a little.

Not saying he's untouchable, but he's not far from it.
What the hell is going on with PLD in Columbus?  
Anakim : 1/21/2021 8:57 pm : link
Torts and him are REALLY hating each other.


Rangers should be interested. He'd be the perfect 2C and would save us from Strome.
RE: What the hell is going on with PLD in Columbus?  
pjcas18 : 1/21/2021 9:38 pm : link
In comment 15130334 Anakim said:
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Torts and him are REALLY hating each other.


Rangers should be interested. He'd be the perfect 2C and would save us from Strome.


What do you think of Torts?

From what I hear players mostly absolutely love playing for him, so it sends up some minor red flags to me that PLD can't take the honest assessment from Torts.

I don't know him as well as Rangers fans though, so I might be off on that.

Other than that, I'd absolutely trade for him, but it would cost the Rangers Kakko (and I'd probably do that if I was NYR) for 1, Kakko isn't a C and 2, PLD is pretty physical and that's a rare combination, (size, skill and grit)

RE: RE: What the hell is going on with PLD in Columbus?  
Anakim : 1/21/2021 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15130345 pjcas18 said:
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Torts and him are REALLY hating each other.


Rangers should be interested. He'd be the perfect 2C and would save us from Strome.



What do you think of Torts?

From what I hear players mostly absolutely love playing for him, so it sends up some minor red flags to me that PLD can't take the honest assessment from Torts.

I don't know him as well as Rangers fans though, so I might be off on that.

Other than that, I'd absolutely trade for him, but it would cost the Rangers Kakko (and I'd probably do that if I was NYR) for 1, Kakko isn't a C and 2, PLD is pretty physical and that's a rare combination, (size, skill and grit)


I mean Torts' reputation precedes him. He's a hard-ass and is known for his tough love approach.

Kakko for PLD...I mean I can see that being the asking price, but IDK. IDK if I would do that. I'd do that for Barkov, but for PLD? Ehh. If we acquire PLD, it also means that Zibanejad probably won't be extended as we'll have plenty of players coming off of ELCs and we'll need to re-sign them.
RE: RE: RE: What the hell is going on with PLD in Columbus?  
pjcas18 : 1/21/2021 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15130352 Anakim said:
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Torts and him are REALLY hating each other.


Rangers should be interested. He'd be the perfect 2C and would save us from Strome.



What do you think of Torts?

From what I hear players mostly absolutely love playing for him, so it sends up some minor red flags to me that PLD can't take the honest assessment from Torts.

I don't know him as well as Rangers fans though, so I might be off on that.

Other than that, I'd absolutely trade for him, but it would cost the Rangers Kakko (and I'd probably do that if I was NYR) for 1, Kakko isn't a C and 2, PLD is pretty physical and that's a rare combination, (size, skill and grit)




I mean Torts' reputation precedes him. He's a hard-ass and is known for his tough love approach.

Kakko for PLD...I mean I can see that being the asking price, but IDK. IDK if I would do that. I'd do that for Barkov, but for PLD? Ehh. If we acquire PLD, it also means that Zibanejad probably won't be extended as we'll have plenty of players coming off of ELCs and we'll need to re-sign them.


So then would you do something like Zibanejad and Kravtsov?

Right now Zibby is a better player, but PLD is 22 years old and I feel like he's better than Zib was at the same age, so in theory PLD can become that player, and is younger (with probably more upside)

RE: RE: RE: RE: What the hell is going on with PLD in Columbus?  
Anakim : 1/21/2021 10:07 pm : link
In comment 15130356 pjcas18 said:
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Torts and him are REALLY hating each other.


Rangers should be interested. He'd be the perfect 2C and would save us from Strome.



What do you think of Torts?

From what I hear players mostly absolutely love playing for him, so it sends up some minor red flags to me that PLD can't take the honest assessment from Torts.

I don't know him as well as Rangers fans though, so I might be off on that.

Other than that, I'd absolutely trade for him, but it would cost the Rangers Kakko (and I'd probably do that if I was NYR) for 1, Kakko isn't a C and 2, PLD is pretty physical and that's a rare combination, (size, skill and grit)




I mean Torts' reputation precedes him. He's a hard-ass and is known for his tough love approach.

Kakko for PLD...I mean I can see that being the asking price, but IDK. IDK if I would do that. I'd do that for Barkov, but for PLD? Ehh. If we acquire PLD, it also means that Zibanejad probably won't be extended as we'll have plenty of players coming off of ELCs and we'll need to re-sign them.



So then would you do something like Zibanejad and Kravtsov?

Right now Zibby is a better player, but PLD is 22 years old and I feel like he's better than Zib was at the same age, so in theory PLD can become that player, and is younger (with probably more upside)


Yeah, I mean in theory you could flip Zibanejad for PLD like the Rangers did when they flipped Brassard for Ziba. I don't think Gorton would, though.

Maybe something along the lines of Kravtsov/Lundkvist, TDA, Strome (I wish), Gauthier and a first rounder for PLD.
Well I do think the  
pjcas18 : 1/21/2021 10:26 pm : link
relationship is beyond repair at this point and Dubois will be moved, but I think it will also be on CBJ's terms.

22 year old centers with his pedigree don't get moved often.
Heh  
Greg from LI : 1/22/2021 12:02 pm : link
This was funny.
Link - ( New Window )
Great night of  
pjcas18 : 1/22/2021 5:49 pm : link
hockey:

RE: Heh  
pjcas18 : 1/22/2021 5:50 pm : link
In comment 15130789 Greg from LI said:
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This was funny. Link - ( New Window )


lol, one of my first thoughts too.
Dreger thinks Winnpeg is the frontrunner for him  
Greg from LI : 1/23/2021 2:07 am : link
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RE: Dreger thinks Winnpeg is the frontrunner for him  
pjcas18 : 1/23/2021 9:37 am : link
In comment 15131490 Greg from LI said:
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Laine for PLD?
Can't imagine Laine and Torts will mesh well  
Anakim : 1/23/2021 10:43 am : link
SiriusXM NHL Network Radio
@SiriusXMNHL

To #CBJ
Jack Roslovic
Patrik Laine

To #GoJetsGo
Pierre-Luc Dubois
3rd round pick
RE: Can't imagine Laine and Torts will mesh well  
pjcas18 : 1/23/2021 10:48 am : link
In comment 15131616 Anakim said:
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SiriusXM NHL Network Radio
@SiriusXMNHL

To #CBJ
Jack Roslovic
Patrik Laine

To #GoJetsGo
Pierre-Luc Dubois
3rd round pick


yep, done deal. seems like one of those trades that can work out for both teams.
I don't know Torts  
pjcas18 : 1/23/2021 10:58 am : link
as well as some of you who followed teams he coached, seems like a good coach, and a lot of players say good things about him.

so maybe it's not on coaching, who knows, but when you look at the talent that has left CBJ it's staggering.

Pierre Luc Dubois
Artemi Panarin
Sergei Bobrovsky
Josh Anderson
Matt Duchene
Ryan Dzingel

that's a solid line and 2/3 plus a goalie.

And the best thing you can say about the return is Laine and Max Domi.

And I still say the trade by CBJ to get Panarin is one of the best trades in recent history (for CBJ).
Tortorella's style wears players out  
Greg from LI : 1/23/2021 11:15 am : link
I think his players generally like and respect him, but after a few years they get worn out with his style.
RE: Tortorella's style wears players out  
pjcas18 : 1/23/2021 11:34 am : link
In comment 15131634 Greg from LI said:
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I think his players generally like and respect him, but after a few years they get worn out with his style.


yeah, he seems like a coach where if you don't win within n years (not sure what that is) he could lose some of the players buying in to his style. But that's probably true of most coaches.
I will say though that I think Dubois is a bit overrated  
Greg from LI : 1/23/2021 11:35 am : link
People think he has a ceiling he probably doesn't have because of his season centering Panarin, and as we've seen with Strome, Breadman can make anyone look much better.
RE: I will say though that I think Dubois is a bit overrated  
BrettNYG10 : 1/23/2021 11:41 am : link
In comment 15131650 Greg from LI said:
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People think he has a ceiling he probably doesn't have because of his season centering Panarin, and as we've seen with Strome, Breadman can make anyone look much better.


He looks like he can be a 1C, but some were saying they'd take him over Matthews after the recent playoff performance. It was insane.
RE: I will say though that I think Dubois is a bit overrated  
pjcas18 : 1/23/2021 11:52 am : link
In comment 15131650 Greg from LI said:
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People think he has a ceiling he probably doesn't have because of his season centering Panarin, and as we've seen with Strome, Breadman can make anyone look much better.


Dubois was way more highly regarded than Panarin. People forget Panarin wasn't even drafted (for many reasons - late bloomer, Russia, small, etc).

and PLD just upgraded his situation from CBJ and will likely be on a line with Ehlers.
Was a reason given for why Dubois wanted to leave CBJ?  
BrettNYG10 : 1/23/2021 12:54 pm : link
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RE: Was a reason given for why Dubois wanted to leave CBJ?  
Anakim : 1/23/2021 12:56 pm : link
In comment 15131691 BrettNYG10 said:
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Not sure, but he obviously didn't get along with Torts and he also reportedly wanted to play in a bigger market like New York or Montreal.
RE: Was a reason given for why Dubois wanted to leave CBJ?  
pjcas18 : 1/23/2021 1:08 pm : link
In comment 15131691 BrettNYG10 said:
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Torts berated him in the bubble during their first round series, probably a little prima donna-ish of PLD (or pre-madonna in BBI terminology) and then he's been benched on and off by Torts.

They've shown the video of it pretty much in between every period of every NHL game. Looks like Torts is telling him to "wake the F up"

Just different generation of players. In my day (and obviously not at this level) coaches would yell and swear at you, throw water bottles, clip boards, or pucks (or whatever else was handy) and even sometimes physically assault you and it was just shoulder shrugs. Now some players are more sensitive and many don't like the abrasive style.
A couple different proposal  
pjcas18 : 1/23/2021 10:07 pm : link
being discussed for NHL draft.

1 is to have the draft in November or December 2021.

I guess a lot (most?) of the junior leagues haven't played a game yet and many NCAA teams simply canceled the season, so buying more time for combine, tourneys, showcases, etc.

Another, that I don't fully get is separating the draft into 2 drafts one for 02's and one for 03's theory I guess is teams have seen more of the 02's and they should be draftable with more data than the '03's - this would be Junr or July though.
I know some people  
pjcas18 : 1/23/2021 10:09 pm : link
don't like fighting in hockey, but IMO - this is how the game polices itself.

Myers hits Armia high, gets a 5 min and the gate, but no league discipline, Edmunson makes him pay.

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#Habs Edmundson on pregame conversation with #Canucks
Myers across the red line: "I just asked him if he would give me (a fight). Our team wasn't a fan of the hit (Thursday on Armia). He stepped up and you gotta' respect that but I still wasn't a fan of the hit."
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I just saw that the Blues  
Jay on the Island : 1/27/2021 5:56 pm : link
are shopping Vince Dunn. Now there is a player the Devils should be aggressive for. While their blue line is playing pretty well they can still use upgrades.

I would offer Will Butcher(with the Devils retaining some of his salary) a 2nd, and Nikita Okhotiuk for Vince Dunn and Alexander Steen.
RE: I just saw that the Blues  
pjcas18 : 1/27/2021 6:04 pm : link
In comment 15136357 Jay on the Island said:
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are shopping Vince Dunn. Now there is a player the Devils should be aggressive for. While their blue line is playing pretty well they can still use upgrades.

I would offer Will Butcher(with the Devils retaining some of his salary) a 2nd, and Nikita Okhotiuk for Vince Dunn and Alexander Steen.


I'd be all in on that trade too. Good puck mover, needs a solid stay at home partner to make up for his defensive short comings, but he's definitely got a role on my team.

I read they want a 1st for him, no chance i do that. A 2nd sure. I think that Devils package offer would be fair.
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