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[Wojnarowski] Reporting w/ @RamonaShelburne: Brooklyn’s acquiring James Harden in a three-way deal with Cleveland. Caris LeVert, Dante Exum, Rodions Kurucs, four 1st round picks – including Cavs’ 2022 first via Bucks -- and 4 Nets pick swaps to Rockets. Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince to Cavs.News
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They’ll start performing like they were expected to coming into the season. Just now without a budding star in Levert and a promising youngster like Allen. Oh, and they mortgaged their future for the next decade.
Different ownership. Different GM. Same old shitty decisions.
I wonder if this is related to Kyrie's absence. Nets are very talented up top, but really weak in terms of depth and defense. Will be interesting to watch.
in today’s NBA. Teams like the Lakers, Clippers, Bucks have paid it to various degrees. The Celtics are stuck as secondary contenders with all of their nice young talent but not a serious threat to break through.
This clips set the Nets back a decade but they have a legit chance to win a title now and that’s extremely hard to do in the NBA.
What did they give up for Allen, when they have Drummond?
drummond is a free agent end of year and an inefficient player.
Yeah, I saw that. I looked it up. I thought he had signed a big contract in the offseason. He just opted in. I remembered that incorrectly. Got to figure Drummond is on the trading block. Good move if they can bring in more assets for Drummond than what they gave up for Allen, or close to it.
You don't want to come up short over the next couple of years and feel like you didn't do all that you could to secure a title. Marks has already proven he can rebuild from scratch - if he has to do it again in three years, so be it.
He will be gone by the trade deadline.
Kyrie and Harden have proved not to be good teammates.
Durant proved he can share the spot light.
I really don't understand the desperation by the Nets to do this deal, they were a really deep team that was probably the best team in the east.
I personally don't like the deal for the Nets.
He's going to be okay now playing behind KD and now Harden?
Maybe? Gotta think age plays a factor here - Irving clearly though he could do it all on his own back then. He must realize now that isn’t the case (you’d think, haha). I also don’t think the shadow cast by Harden/Durant is as big either.
offensively I expect them to figure it out, too much talent and some brilliant offensive minds on the coaching staff. But that defense is really a concern, DeAndre hasn't been good on D for a long time.
The Nets on 01/13/21 are one of the weirdest teams in recent league history because of this trade happening at the same exact time as Kyrie's unexcused absence. Is Kyrie going to return now? Such a weird team, and yet everyone in the East is scared of them.
This is like Kate Upton adding a third boob, what’s the point?
offensively I expect them to figure it out, too much talent and some brilliant offensive minds on the coaching staff. But that defense is really a concern, DeAndre hasn't been good on D for a long time.
The Nets on 01/13/21 are one of the weirdest teams in recent league history because of this trade happening at the same exact time as Kyrie's unexcused absence. Is Kyrie going to return now? Such a weird team, and yet everyone in the East is scared of them.
The Nets are 3rd in the NBA in points scored per game. Putting points up hasn’t been their problem. Harden obviously adds even more scoring, but damn, that defense and depth may be historically bad. The big 3 are going to have to play a ton of minutes. It will be fascinating to watch play out
RE: This is like Kate Upton adding a third boob, what’s the point?
As a Nets fan, I’m disgusted. Not only do we give up two tremendous young players in LeVert and Allen, we remain stuck with a malcontent (Irving) who shows up when he feels like it. I don’t care about getting Harden. One basketball to share between Durant, Irving and Harden? Good luck with that. In 2 years Sean Marks has transformed this team from a club on the rise with good young talent into a club overburdened with so-called “superstars” with no guarantee that they’ll mesh well on the court. Not to mention the fact that the team is officially in salary cap hell for years to come. Anyone who thinks the Nets just got themselves a championship, guess what. This is Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett all over again.
The NBA is way different than the NFL (and by that I mean basketball and football). In football, trading all your assets to get a super star doesn't often work out. In basketball, there's only 5 guys on the court at a time playing both offense and defense. If you can add a super star player, all of a sudden 20% of your starting lineup is made up of super star (imagine if you could do that in the NFL with a trade).
And I don't worry about the chemistry of these guys playing with each other. Their super stars and they've played this game since they were kids. They'll figure out a way to play together and make each other better because making your teammates better is a huge part of being a great basketball player (and these are great basketball players). I mean KD is the biggest super star of all of them and he figured out how to play on a team with 3 other all stars just fine.
It might be rocky at first but come playoff time I think they're gonna be clicking and extremely difficult to stop offensively. Defensively is another story but honestly with these 3 guys in there I don't know how any team can stop them offensively.
As a Nets fan, I’m disgusted. Not only do we give up two tremendous young players in LeVert and Allen, we remain stuck with a malcontent (Irving) who shows up when he feels like it. I don’t care about getting Harden. One basketball to share between Durant, Irving and Harden? Good luck with that. In 2 years Sean Marks has transformed this team from a club on the rise with good young talent into a club overburdened with so-called “superstars” with no guarantee that they’ll mesh well on the court. Not to mention the fact that the team is officially in salary cap hell for years to come. Anyone who thinks the Nets just got themselves a championship, guess what. This is Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett all over again.
I almost wonder if they know Irving is not coming back
A douchebag like Harden being paid millions by his employer and under contract acts like a malcontent to get traded. If the Nets don't win a title in the next couple of years they are screwed in the future.
Terrible trade and speaks volumes about the spoiled millionaire athletes in the NBA.
A douchebag like Harden being paid millions by his employer and under contract acts like a malcontent to get traded. If the Nets don't win a title in the next couple of years they are screwed in the future.
Terrible trade and speaks volumes about the spoiled millionaire athletes in the NBA.
Meh. And the owners are spoiled billionaires and often act like it (just like NFL and MLB owners).
NBA is more of a player-driven league than just about any other major sport. More and more people are tuning in to root for players instead of teams. A big reason for this is because in basketball adding one superstar can change your team's playoff/championship chances astronomically in a way that doesn't work in football & baseball. The players have a ton of power and leverage and they know it and use it. Simple as that.
RE: RE: How In The World Is This A Plus For The Nets?
As a Nets fan, I’m disgusted. Not only do we give up two tremendous young players in LeVert and Allen, we remain stuck with a malcontent (Irving) who shows up when he feels like it. I don’t care about getting Harden. One basketball to share between Durant, Irving and Harden? Good luck with that. In 2 years Sean Marks has transformed this team from a club on the rise with good young talent into a club overburdened with so-called “superstars” with no guarantee that they’ll mesh well on the court. Not to mention the fact that the team is officially in salary cap hell for years to come. Anyone who thinks the Nets just got themselves a championship, guess what. This is Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett all over again.
I almost wonder if they know Irving is not coming back
my 2 favorite things from this trade (from a nets fan):
1. makes it likelier that KD stays beyond current deal
2. makes Kyrie somewhat dispensable
I can't imagine Kyrie is going to turn a 180 so quickly to not returning, however I think at this point they have to know they just can't rely on him at all.
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[Wojnarowski] Reporting w/ @RamonaShelburne: Brooklyn’s acquiring James Harden in a three-way deal with Cleveland. Caris LeVert, Dante Exum, Rodions Kurucs, four 1st round picks – including Cavs’ 2022 first via Bucks -- and 4 Nets pick swaps to Rockets. Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince to Cavs.News
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quietly building!
Love to see the Nets beat the Knicks to players.
Different ownership. Different GM. Same old shitty decisions.
Getcha your popcorn ready.
quietly building!
Saw Drummond was a FA. Cleveland has to be moving him next I would assume.
Love to see the Nets beat the Knicks to players.
ummmm ok?
drummond is a free agent end of year and an inefficient player.
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What did they give up for Allen, when they have Drummond?
drummond is a free agent end of year and an inefficient player.
Not to mention the perpetually injured Kevin Love
Thought the same. Huge haul for Houston.
This clips set the Nets back a decade but they have a legit chance to win a title now and that’s extremely hard to do in the NBA.
If I cared about the NBA a little more,that might sting
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What did they give up for Allen, when they have Drummond?
drummond is a free agent end of year and an inefficient player.
Yeah, I saw that. I looked it up. I thought he had signed a big contract in the offseason. He just opted in. I remembered that incorrectly. Got to figure Drummond is on the trading block. Good move if they can bring in more assets for Drummond than what they gave up for Allen, or close to it.
Sources: Full current trade:
Rockets: Victor Oladipo, Dante Exum, Rodions Kurucs, 3 BKN first-rounders (22, 24, 26), 1 MIL first (22, unprotected), 4 BKN 1st round swaps (21, 23, 25, 27)
Nets: James Harden
Pacers: Caris LeVert, 2nd-rounder
Cavs: Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince
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Kyrie and Harden have proved not to be good teammates.
Durant proved he can share the spot light.
I really don't understand the desperation by the Nets to do this deal, they were a really deep team that was probably the best team in the east.
I personally don't like the deal for the Nets.
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Sources: Full current trade:
Rockets: Victor Oladipo, Dante Exum, Rodions Kurucs, 3 BKN first-rounders (22, 24, 26), 1 MIL first (22, unprotected), 4 BKN 1st round swaps (21, 23, 25, 27)
Nets: James Harden
Pacers: Caris LeVert, 2nd-rounder
Cavs: Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince
4:25 PM · Jan 13, 2021·TweetDeck
So Cleveland only gave up Mil 2022 1st rounder and Exum? That's pretty damn good for Allen.
Maybe? Gotta think age plays a factor here - Irving clearly though he could do it all on his own back then. He must realize now that isn’t the case (you’d think, haha). I also don’t think the shadow cast by Harden/Durant is as big either.
2 best young players and 7 Round 1s for a guy who only passes for his assist column
1 ball
No D
Pretender Status
The Nets on 01/13/21 are one of the weirdest teams in recent league history because of this trade happening at the same exact time as Kyrie's unexcused absence. Is Kyrie going to return now? Such a weird team, and yet everyone in the East is scared of them.
I guess as a Knicks I shouldn’t be laughing at any other team.
The Nets on 01/13/21 are one of the weirdest teams in recent league history because of this trade happening at the same exact time as Kyrie's unexcused absence. Is Kyrie going to return now? Such a weird team, and yet everyone in the East is scared of them.
The Nets are 3rd in the NBA in points scored per game. Putting points up hasn’t been their problem. Harden obviously adds even more scoring, but damn, that defense and depth may be historically bad. The big 3 are going to have to play a ton of minutes. It will be fascinating to watch play out
I guess as a Knicks I shouldn’t be laughing at any other team.
What's wrong with Kate Upton adding a 3rd, glorious boob? You've never seen Total Recall?
I guess as a Knicks I shouldn’t be laughing at any other team.
If she had a third boob I’d celebrate it as much as I do the first two. Man ooooooooh maaaaaan.
Love the trade for the other three teams involved.
Somebody mentioned in one of these threads but idk why the Rockets prefer Oladipo over Levert. That seems like a mistake.
And I don't worry about the chemistry of these guys playing with each other. Their super stars and they've played this game since they were kids. They'll figure out a way to play together and make each other better because making your teammates better is a huge part of being a great basketball player (and these are great basketball players). I mean KD is the biggest super star of all of them and he figured out how to play on a team with 3 other all stars just fine.
It might be rocky at first but come playoff time I think they're gonna be clicking and extremely difficult to stop offensively. Defensively is another story but honestly with these 3 guys in there I don't know how any team can stop them offensively.
I almost wonder if they know Irving is not coming back
Terrible trade and speaks volumes about the spoiled millionaire athletes in the NBA.
2 best young players and 7 Round 1s for a guy who only passes for his assist column
1 ball
No D
Pretender Status
Totally agree. Unless the NBA is expanding to two balls, this is going to be a train wreck.
Three players who need the ball. And a new, first team HC who is going to be have even less power now.
Terrible trade and speaks volumes about the spoiled millionaire athletes in the NBA.
Meh. And the owners are spoiled billionaires and often act like it (just like NFL and MLB owners).
NBA is more of a player-driven league than just about any other major sport. More and more people are tuning in to root for players instead of teams. A big reason for this is because in basketball adding one superstar can change your team's playoff/championship chances astronomically in a way that doesn't work in football & baseball. The players have a ton of power and leverage and they know it and use it. Simple as that.
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As a Nets fan, I’m disgusted. Not only do we give up two tremendous young players in LeVert and Allen, we remain stuck with a malcontent (Irving) who shows up when he feels like it. I don’t care about getting Harden. One basketball to share between Durant, Irving and Harden? Good luck with that. In 2 years Sean Marks has transformed this team from a club on the rise with good young talent into a club overburdened with so-called “superstars” with no guarantee that they’ll mesh well on the court. Not to mention the fact that the team is officially in salary cap hell for years to come. Anyone who thinks the Nets just got themselves a championship, guess what. This is Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett all over again.
I almost wonder if they know Irving is not coming back
my 2 favorite things from this trade (from a nets fan):
1. makes it likelier that KD stays beyond current deal
2. makes Kyrie somewhat dispensable
I can't imagine Kyrie is going to turn a 180 so quickly to not returning, however I think at this point they have to know they just can't rely on him at all.
Irving
Harris
Harden
Durant
Jordan
Bench that will play will be
Bruce Brown
Jeff Green
Timmy Luwawu Cabarrot
Shamet
they will likely sign a vet--- but they really miss dinwiddie for depth.
Green likely plays backup center- and when Nic Claxton comes back.