I am horrified by them paying him 6 million for his 5th year option and am more worried that they could extend him to reduce this years cap hit. He doesn’t seem tradeable at that price so any team trading for him would have to have an extension worked out already.
I’d like to hear people’s honest opinions on what they think the Giants would actually do?
I’ll start, they keep him for $6 million (unfortunately).
6 mil ain't crazy money. He makes plays, unfortunately both good and bad plays.
The Giants' management should assess his play and figure out if Engram is an asset going forward or a liability. If he's an asset then keep him. If not, see ya later.
I think they can do better at the position.
with Evan Engram getting jolted and rag-dolled by a DE, not to mention him going over the middle and seeing the ball deflect off his hands for an INT.
Very excited.
- Me in 2019.
Will they keep him?
Of course.
- me in 2021
- Me in 2019.
Will they keep him?
Of course.
- me in 2021
I laughed...
6 mil ain't crazy money. He makes plays, unfortunately both good and bad plays.
Yup, that’s how I see it. Likely won’t get a decent offer for him, might as well just keep him and hope the light comes on. Barkley back plus and upgrade at WR should really take the pressure off of him.
- Me in 2019.
Will they keep him?
Of course.
- me in 2021
I laughed...
He's a flawed player for sure, but he was one of the few in the passing game who could get open. He'll be back.
If they can add $6 million and add a pick in the process I think they work a trade. If he's gonna be gone I think it would happen early in the offseason when they can utilize the caproom on FAs. If he's here after the main wave of free agency I dont think he's going anywhere.
Put the 6M towards resigning Dalvin Tomlinson.
Put the 6M towards resigning Dalvin Tomlinson.
Pats are a team I could see having interest, their 2 TE system is short 2 TEs and they have an abundance of draft capital. They can spare a 5 or 6 and take a shot they can coach him up in their scheme.
He kills drives with poor hands, isn't anything special vs man coverage despite his speed, struggles to find open soft spots vs zone, is a negative blocker, shows no clutch abilities and unfortunately is at the scene of the crime too much when turnovers occur.
This didn't happen in a few instances...it occurred all season long. In a season where he actually wasn't injured.
And imv it's not about some lightbulb that needs to go on as he appears to know his assignments. He simply cannot perform them properly.
I will say it again...he is not a football player.
Good one
It's a very miserly ray of hope, but he has actually improved his blocking over his first 4 years. Now finally this season, maybe he can put 3 2 hours sessions in working on his hands?
YeahI know, fat chance...
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supposedly got a great coaching staff, why can't we coach him up?
It's a very miserly ray of hope, but he has actually improved his blocking over his first 4 years. Now finally this season, maybe he can put 3 2 hours sessions in working on his hands?
YeahI know, fat chance...
We were 31st in offense. Where is the sign of that being a good coaching staff.
For all the love Judge gets, he hired a very boring OC who fired himself as OC while in Dallas. He had to fire the Oline coach he hired midway through year 1. What offensive player did we develop in 2020? Jones went backwards. Slayton showed no strides in year 2. Engram was the same mess. Pat Shurmur set such a low bar in his media sessions that Judge has been made out to be a genius because he can sound confident at a mic.
His salary can help them keep good players like Tomlinson and Gallman.
Feel the same way.
Judge should stop befriending the worst players on the team.
He doesn't just drop routine balls. I'm sure he leads the team, maybe the league in targets that result in turnovers. And he's supposed to be a receiving TE?!
Please get rid of him somehow. It would be classic addition by subtraction.
He is at his best when he is on the move, not all these curl routes which plant a defender right behind him.
Use him on the move, which Garrett does not like to do. Has there been a TE seam route at all in 2020.
I watched enough of K. Smith miss blocks or pay Toilolo $2M+ for nothing. there are 17 TE making 6M
I'd take the 5th to fill in what we traded away. Heck, I'd cut him outright just to save the cap dollars.
I say keep him, and add more weapons that would make him less of a focal point
Just what does he do well. Run fast?
Just what does he do well. Run fast?
What will he do well? Cost the team wins.
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Not only does he have questionable hands but he can't block worth a lick and he's a mediocre route runner.
Just what does he do well. Run fast?
His contract right now isn't earth shattering, and his replacement would require premium FA or draft capital on a team full of holes.
I'd rather spend to bring in multiple WRs, and roll the dice on him doing more when he's the third option when DJ drops back.
I can't see a 4th round pick getting the trade done. I think the Giants would have to give another team at least a 2nd rounder to take Ingram.
Engram is what he is, there is no unseen upside.
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BillT : 2:34 pm : link : reply
Not only does he have questionable hands but he can't block worth a lick and he's a mediocre route runner.
Just what does he do well. Run fast?
His contract right now isn't earth shattering, and his replacement would require premium FA or draft capital on a team full of holes.
I'd rather spend to bring in multiple WRs, and roll the dice on him doing more when he's the third option when DJ drops back.
Not true, A guy like Hunter Henry will get something like $12m/per. Year one of that contract could easily fit into Engram's $6m cap slot.