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Italianju : 1/14/2021 2:25 pm
Well that didnt take long. Deadline is reporting that Evans is close to signing a new deal to return to the MCU as captain america. Not much info is out there yet but this is both surprising and not surprising at all, LOL. I always expected Evans and to a lesser extent Downey to return at some point (especially evans due to age) but i figured it would at least be a couple years down the road. Of course the big question is how does he return? WIll it be him returning the stones at the end of endgame? Some adventure with Peggy? Or do they pull him out of another universe in Spiderman 3 and he just is back in the MCU as normal cap? I really liked Evans in that role so im happy.

Also the early reviews of the first few episodes of Wandavision are overly positive. Im pretty excited for it as its been such a long wait to return to the MCU.
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There's some speculation that he could originally return as  
BLUATHRT : 1/14/2021 2:31 pm : link
Old man cap in Falcon and Winter Soldier and then that evolves into additional appearances. I really like him in that role and hope it's not just as the older version of Cap.
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 1/14/2021 2:33 pm : link
I figured the Disney+ show would have either winter soldier or Falcon becoming the new Cap, as both had runs of him in the comics.

I know the plan was to have Captain Marvel, Dr Strange, and Black Panther be the focal points of the new Avengers movies. Honestly, wouldn't be too interested in that.

The spider-verse has peaked my interest. And I'd be all in on an Xmen reboot with Disney's team behind it.
could the uncertain movie landscape  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/14/2021 2:38 pm : link
after COVID be a reason for Evans returning to one of the few sure things out there in the MCU?

The best trailer for anything that I've seen over the last month or so of watching football has been "WandaVision". That looked excellent, good to hear about the positive reviews. Sidenote: Worst trailer I saw was for the show "Call me Kat", that shit looks like hot garbage.
RE: There's some speculation that he could originally return as  
robbieballs2003 : 1/14/2021 2:41 pm : link
In comment 15122473 BLUATHRT said:
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Old man cap in Falcon and Winter Soldier and then that evolves into additional appearances. I really like him in that role and hope it's not just as the older version of Cap.


Doesn't that undermind the whole point of the spinoff and the passing of the shield (torch) at the end of Endgame?
Undermine  
robbieballs2003 : 1/14/2021 2:43 pm : link
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RE: RE: There's some speculation that he could originally return as  
BLUATHRT : 1/14/2021 2:45 pm : link
In comment 15122492 robbieballs2003 said:
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Old man cap in Falcon and Winter Soldier and then that evolves into additional appearances. I really like him in that role and hope it's not just as the older version of Cap.



Doesn't that undermind the whole point of the spinoff and the passing of the shield (torch) at the end of Endgame?


You'd think so, but there's so many way's they could take it with a mentor type role, etc. In the comics Cap went rogue, was a member of hydra, etc. Marvel has always taken elements of the comics and used them as a base in their storylines, so it could go a trillion different ways.
I just feel that they should let those characters grow on their own  
robbieballs2003 : 1/14/2021 2:48 pm : link
now. Maybe if it was a like a cameo appearance that is different but if he has a somewhat significant role I don't like that. They could easily use him in a movie or a series outside of that particular show. Just my opinion.
RE: could the uncertain movie landscape  
UConn4523 : 1/14/2021 2:52 pm : link
In comment 15122487 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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after COVID be a reason for Evans returning to one of the few sure things out there in the MCU?

The best trailer for anything that I've seen over the last month or so of watching football has been "WandaVision". That looked excellent, good to hear about the positive reviews. Sidenote: Worst trailer I saw was for the show "Call me Kat", that shit looks like hot garbage.


Yup, said the same to my friends a little while ago. Marvel needs a sure thing to offset the COVID losses and this seemed like a no brainer.

I’m not a fan anymore but I follow the news on it. Going to be a weird couple years in “Hollywood”.
Read somewhere  
Existenz : 1/14/2021 2:54 pm : link
That this could be a WW2 era show or movie where he interacts with legacy Marvel characters like Wolverine.... that could be kind of cool.
This is a little tricky.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/14/2021 3:05 pm : link
They could do a story that takes place before the events of "Endgame," like they did with "Black Widow." I think they'll resist a story in the timeline where he gets together with Peggy, but I could be completely wrong about that.

Agree that it could be old Steve Rogers mentoring Sam. However that's also difficult in its own ways. For Endgame they used a different actor and did face replacement. Chris Evans doesn't have an old man's body or body language, so you'd probably want to do it the same way. But that's a difficult and expensive process to do over the course of a TV season. Marvel could afford it but they are pretty frugal about that sort of thing.
I hope they intertwine the Xmen in  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/14/2021 3:06 pm : link
want to see the Xmen under Marvel's lens, enough with Fox's version.

I would love to see a huge crossover event after 20+ movies bringing them together for Secret Wars or some big brouhaha.

Bring in the Shiar, the Brood, the Reapers, let's get crazy with it.
RE: This is a little tricky.  
Existenz : 1/14/2021 3:10 pm : link
In comment 15122545 81_Great_Dane said:
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They could do a story that takes place before the events of "Endgame," like they did with "Black Widow." I think they'll resist a story in the timeline where he gets together with Peggy, but I could be completely wrong about that.

Agree that it could be old Steve Rogers mentoring Sam. However that's also difficult in its own ways. For Endgame they used a different actor and did face replacement. Chris Evans doesn't have an old man's body or body language, so you'd probably want to do it the same way. But that's a difficult and expensive process to do over the course of a TV season. Marvel could afford it but they are pretty frugal about that sort of thing.


They didn't use a different actor. That was Chris Evans in prosthetics and CGI. They brought in other actors to try to do it and it just didn't work according to Anthony Mackie
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Existenz : 1/14/2021 3:11 pm : link
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They could do a story that takes place before the events of "Endgame," like they did with "Black Widow." I think they'll resist a story in the timeline where he gets together with Peggy, but I could be completely wrong about that.

Agree that it could be old Steve Rogers mentoring Sam. However that's also difficult in its own ways. For Endgame they used a different actor and did face replacement. Chris Evans doesn't have an old man's body or body language, so you'd probably want to do it the same way. But that's a difficult and expensive process to do over the course of a TV season. Marvel could afford it but they are pretty frugal about that sort of thing.



They didn't use a different actor. That was Chris Evans in prosthetics and CGI. They brought in other actors to try to do it and it just didn't work according to Anthony Mackie

article that talks about it - ( New Window )
i cant imagine they bring evans back to have him play an old man...  
Italianju : 1/14/2021 3:22 pm : link
haha, but who knows.

I do think this sucks a bit for bucky and falcon. I was excited to see one of them take on the mantle for awhile. That said just cause the article says he is coming back as cap doesnt mean he is. They could do say a Nomad storyline. Like something where the avengers (or some of them) are trying to track a person who is "doing their job for them" and it turns out to be him?

I wonder if some of this is the result of the Boseman passing. There was a lot of talk he was going to take over the cap role as the kind of leader of the avengers.
I think with Black Panther going away  
widmerseyebrow : 1/14/2021 3:31 pm : link
and Brie Larson having no charisma they might be trying to get some star power to lead the pack.
I always figured Evans and Downey would return in some form  
Ben in Tampa : 1/14/2021 3:47 pm : link
Especially since Disney’s plan is to release a Marvel show or movie almost every week of the year going forward.

I’d bet the house Downey appears in the new Iron Heart show as some sort of hologram/recording/AI/etc
i figured it would at least be a couple years...  
Italianju : 1/14/2021 3:53 pm : link
before they thought about bringing either of them back. But as we have pointed out there could be a handful of reasons (covid, boseman, etc).

And black panther is moving forward without boseman, but its not like the person who takes the mantle (Shuri? Killmonger somehow would be awesome) will all of a sudden lead the avengers. ANd yeah i cant really see Larson pulling that off. Spiderman is too young, Dr. Strange doesnt really give the leader vibe, Hawkeye too useless (lol), Smart Hulk i guess could do it, but yeah there really isnt a leader type with Evans and RDJ gone.
RE: I think with Black Panther going away  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/14/2021 4:08 pm : link
In comment 15122573 widmerseyebrow said:
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and Brie Larson having no charisma they might be trying to get some star power to lead the pack.


Brie Larson was a big miss. She was great in "Room" but this was just not a fit. I wish Charlize Theron were just a bit younger, she would have been friggin perfect. Maybe Jessica Chastain would have had the right chops.
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Jay on the Island : 1/14/2021 5:01 pm : link
In comment 15122619 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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and Brie Larson having no charisma they might be trying to get some star power to lead the pack.



Brie Larson was a big miss. She was great in "Room" but this was just not a fit. I wish Charlize Theron were just a bit younger, she would have been friggin perfect. Maybe Jessica Chastain would have had the right chops.

Jessica Chastain or Emily Blunt would have been ideal.
A younger Theron or Blunt would have been great  
widmerseyebrow : 1/14/2021 5:09 pm : link
I love Chastain as an actress, but I think she too is a bit dainty on the physical side.
I dont hate Larson as Captain Marvel...  
Italianju : 1/14/2021 5:20 pm : link
but they could have done sooooo much better.

Everyone wants blunt as invincible woman with Krasinski as Mr. Fantastic. We should get fantastic 4 casting sometime this year as speculation on that movie is it will be a 2023 release (give or take).
RE: I dont hate Larson as Captain Marvel...  
Jay on the Island : 1/14/2021 6:22 pm : link
In comment 15122716 Italianju said:
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but they could have done sooooo much better.

Everyone wants blunt as invincible woman with Krasinski as Mr. Fantastic. We should get fantastic 4 casting sometime this year as speculation on that movie is it will be a 2023 release (give or take).

I certainly hope they both are in the fantastic four. They are perfect fits and Krasinski has made it known that he wants to join the MCU. Krasinski was all set to play captain America originally because Evans passed twice. Just before they were set to announce Krasinski they spoke to Evans once more and he decided to do it.
Can't they do prequels ?  
Ron from Ninerland : 1/14/2021 6:35 pm : link
After all the 2 Wonder Woman movies are prequels as is the upcoming Black Widow.
It could mean a number of things  
eclipz928 : 1/14/2021 8:39 pm : link
MCU is set to introduce several new characters in their own featured films, and Chris Evans' Captain America could appear in a featured role, or as a cameo, for any plots that take place prior to the present (flashbacks, prequels, etc.).

It could also end up being just an agreement to do voice-over work. Disney+ is releasing a series very soon called What If? which will be an animated series using the voices of the actors from the live action films - it may just be they want to do more episodes with Evans' voice as Captain America.

But regardless, it seems like Chris Evans always enjoyed playing the role, and right now I would imagine there aren't too many big projects coming out of Hollywood that he might be looking to try to latch on to. Right now, with Covid slowing everything to a halt, MCU/Disney appears to be the only sure thing in entertainment - it would be smart business for Evans to come back to it.

X-Men with the MCU  
Mike from SI : 1/14/2021 8:47 pm : link
writers/producers would kick so much ass. Many people around my age (30's) grew up with the X-Men cartoon and have a soft spot for a lot of those characters. I probably started watching the Giants because I continued watching Fox after X-Men lol.
RE: X-Men with the MCU  
robbieballs2003 : 1/14/2021 9:40 pm : link
In comment 15122899 Mike from SI said:
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writers/producers would kick so much ass. Many people around my age (30's) grew up with the X-Men cartoon and have a soft spot for a lot of those characters. I probably started watching the Giants because I continued watching Fox after X-Men lol.


Yep, and the whole X-Men franchise on the big screen sucked. There were some decent films here and there but as a whole they never grasped the X-Men the right way. And one of the best casting jobs was Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. Too bad there were too many shitty movies involving him. The last one was great though.
Perhaps Marvel is now just realizing  
Knineteen : 1/14/2021 11:13 pm : link
that Shang-Chi, Eternals, Captain Marvel and Jane Foster as Thor can't carry the MCU, post-Endgame.
RE: X-Men with the MCU  
TommyWiseau : 1/15/2021 8:55 am : link
In comment 15122899 Mike from SI said:
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writers/producers would kick so much ass. Many people around my age (30's) grew up with the X-Men cartoon and have a soft spot for a lot of those characters. I probably started watching the Giants because I continued watching Fox after X-Men lol.


Agreed. I was an X-Men fan (comics and cartoon) growing up. Had damn never every action figure too. I would love MCU to do X-Men right, or even do an Age of Apocalypse two part movie.
RE: Perhaps Marvel is now just realizing  
barens : 1/15/2021 9:01 am : link
In comment 15123039 Knineteen said:
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that Shang-Chi, Eternals, Captain Marvel and Jane Foster as Thor can't carry the MCU, post-Endgame.


This whole thing with Jane Foster as the next Thor, not loving that idea. I mean, Natalie Portman is like a twig, kind of a hard sell.
They are doing a Secret Invasion TV series  
Scyber : 1/15/2021 9:03 am : link
They could have Chris Evans play Cap in that show w/o interfering with the timeline.

Jane foster as Thor..  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 9:08 am : link
is right from the comics. Not sure if she will pull it off but i dont think she needs to be jacked to make it work.

And not that id expect him to say anything else but Evans did tweet out "News to me" in response to all this.

I mentioned earlier the idea of Killmonger somehow taking the black panther mantle. There are new rumors that Michael B. Jordan is returning for Black panther 2 (not reports he will take the mantle just reports he is returning). IM all for this, but they do have to be careful with just bringing back dead characters left and right. I know its a comic book world and nobody is really dead and we didnt technically see him die. And its wakanda so they could have had some stasis tech they put him in or something.
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Scyber : 1/15/2021 9:12 am : link
In comment 15123170 TommyWiseau said:
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writers/producers would kick so much ass. Many people around my age (30's) grew up with the X-Men cartoon and have a soft spot for a lot of those characters. I probably started watching the Giants because I continued watching Fox after X-Men lol.



Agreed. I was an X-Men fan (comics and cartoon) growing up. Had damn never every action figure too. I would love MCU to do X-Men right, or even do an Age of Apocalypse two part movie.


I think the biggest challenge with integrating the X-men into the MCU is how do you separate their fights from the Avengers (similar issue with the fantastic 4 I guess). Take the Fox movies as examples. How do the avengers not show up to the Statue of Liberty in the first film? Or not show up when an army of mutants are destroying the Golden Gate Bridge and attacking Alcatraz in the 2nd film?

You could always use the excuse that the Avengers were busy and/or "off-world", but at some point I assume the Avengers will grow enough to support multiple teams (or at least have some "reserve" members). If so, you'd think they would ensure the backup team is ready for anything. And that excuse might get a bit silly after a few movies.
i think this is why you will  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 9:18 am : link
see a slow inclusion of the xmen. Like i dont think we are going to plop down into the X mansion and professor X is there with wolverine, storm, cyclops, etc...

I wouldnt be too surprised to almost see a first class type build up from Marvel. Like start with Magneto and professor X and build the team over the course of 8 movies or something.
The longer it takes to build the team the longer they can kick that can down the road.

In Feige i trust for now!
RE: i think this is why you will  
Mike from SI : 1/15/2021 9:35 am : link
In comment 15123228 Italianju said:
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see a slow inclusion of the xmen. Like i dont think we are going to plop down into the X mansion and professor X is there with wolverine, storm, cyclops, etc...

I wouldnt be too surprised to almost see a first class type build up from Marvel. Like start with Magneto and professor X and build the team over the course of 8 movies or something.
The longer it takes to build the team the longer they can kick that can down the road.

In Feige i trust for now!


Magneto needs his own Logan-style movie (without the ending of Logan lol) that can happen whenever. The scene with Young Magneto in the bar linked below...why can't we have an entire movie of this? Someone made a point on Twitter: when Magneto is not trying to take over the world, what is he doing? Hunting Nazis? Generally weird sh**? I'd love to know.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: i think this is why you will  
barens : 1/15/2021 11:19 am : link
In comment 15123228 Italianju said:
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see a slow inclusion of the xmen. Like i dont think we are going to plop down into the X mansion and professor X is there with wolverine, storm, cyclops, etc...

I wouldnt be too surprised to almost see a first class type build up from Marvel. Like start with Magneto and professor X and build the team over the course of 8 movies or something.
The longer it takes to build the team the longer they can kick that can down the road.

In Feige i trust for now!


Totally trust in Feige. We can nitpick all we want, but that guy has done a fantastic job overall to date.
RE: RE: i think this is why you will  
ATL_Giants : 1/15/2021 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15123256 Mike from SI said:
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Magneto needs his own Logan-style movie (without the ending of Logan lol) that can happen whenever. The scene with Young Magneto in the bar linked below...why can't we have an entire movie of this? Someone made a point on Twitter: when Magneto is not trying to take over the world, what is he doing? Hunting Nazis? Generally weird sh**? I'd love to know. Link - ( New Window )

How they pulled that scene off without any blood.
Get the R rating, and do it right.
RE: Perhaps Marvel is now just realizing  
Jay on the Island : 1/15/2021 4:03 pm : link
In comment 15123039 Knineteen said:
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that Shang-Chi, Eternals, Captain Marvel and Jane Foster as Thor can't carry the MCU, post-Endgame.

I think they will be fine when they introduce the Fantastic 4, Volverine, and several other major X-Men.
Not to mention that...  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 5:06 pm : link
Thor isnt gone, Hulk, GOTG, Spiderman (kinda), etc... Really all thats gone is Iron man, cap and Black Widow. They have created a massive universe, the loss of Iron man and Cap would hurt but i think they would be fine. But if Evans wants to come back and Feige has a good idea on how to do that then its a no brainer.
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