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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/14/2021 6:32 pm
'Irving is prepared to sit out the remainder of the campaign amid his growing frustration with the Nets, KRON-TV’s Jason Dumas reported Wednesday. The star point guard, who has missed Brooklyn’s last five games while the NBA investigates videos of his maskless partying, reportedly is irate with the organization for multiple reasons, including the hiring of head coach Steve Nash.'

'There also are reports indicating Brooklyn’s acquisition of James Harden was not approved by Irving, who reportedly was not answering the Nets’ calls as recently as Wednesday afternoon.'

Absent this guy having real mental health issues, he is one bizarre character. From believing the earth is flat to his comments to the media before the season to this...

If I was Sean Marks, Steve Nash, or anyone in the organization, I'd be beyond pissed with this guy. The dude has gone completely AWOL in the middle of a season that has championship aspirations.
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RE: I have no idea  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/14/2021 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15122863 Beef Wellington said:
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how this sport continues to exist. Im not even certain it is a sport. It really is a circus. Who follows this nonsense?


Uh, a lot of people. I watch more random NBA games than non Giants NFL games.
This guy is the biggest loser in sports  
Saquads26 : 1/14/2021 8:32 pm : link
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I don’t believe this article at all  
JoeMoney19 : 1/14/2021 8:33 pm : link
I’ve never heard that Kyrie has any problem with the Nets organization. Even today Marks said Kyrie is looking forward to returning and the he spoke to both Durant & Kyrie prior to making the Harden trade. I don’t think Marks would lie about it. There is nothing to gain from that.

I imagine the NESN reporters have a grudge against Kyrie.

Marks could easily not say anything. That is his usual MO. I don’t think he would make a statement just for it to be an outright lie.
RE: RE: To me  
Mike from SI : 1/14/2021 8:37 pm : link
In comment 15122868 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 15122866 Mike from SI said:


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the guy likely has some pretty bad mental health issues so maybe pump the brakes on hating him intensely or whatever.



If he does, I wish him the best. But if not...really indefensible.


I'm not a psychologist, but for better or for worse I know a lot of people with varying degrees of mental health issues. This reminds me of that. I could be wrong. If he really is just a huge selfish brat, then yeah, screw him.
RE: This guy is the biggest loser in sports  
Mike from SI : 1/14/2021 8:38 pm : link
In comment 15122875 Saquads26 said:
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He hit arguably the biggest shot in the history of the NBA. Great analysis.
The  
mitch300 : 1/14/2021 8:43 pm : link
Nets have no one to blame but themselves. Is this shocking to anyone. Didn’t he start crap in boston.
There are folks at NESN who despise Kyrie.  
BigBlueNH : 1/14/2021 10:46 pm : link
Clearly, the guy is having problems and is hurting the team by his absence. But there is nothing in this article that is consistent with anything else being reported about his relationship with the Nets. I call BS.
What a scumbag.  
Silver Spoon : 1/15/2021 8:02 am : link
Maybe he can continue research on the flatness of the earth.
Sad to see what he has turned into  
Jints in Carolina : 1/15/2021 8:10 am : link
He clearly has some issues.
RE: The Knicks should offer Elfrid Payton and DSJ for him.  
Heisenberg : 1/15/2021 8:36 am : link
In comment 15122846 81_Great_Dane said:
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MAKE IT HAPPEN, LEON!!!


Haha, I'm so desperate for good PG play that I'd totally take this lunatic on the Knicks.
I dont think Kyrie leaving  
nygiants16 : 1/15/2021 8:51 am : link
had anything to do with basketball, i think if he is mad at the Nets he is mad they didnt boycott..

I think this has everything to do with what has gone on in this country, as far as i will go because i dont want to turn political..

1 game i understand, now it is jist craziness
this has def got out of control...  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 9:15 am : link
the first game he missed it was like "ok i get it", but this is absurd. What happened in DC shook and upset most people and im sure most of the league. Yet he is the only one who cant bring himself to play?

I mean i live and work in DC and it def shook me. My work did close our building on Wed/thur but by Friday i was expected you know to go back to work.
at some point  
Enzo : 1/15/2021 9:22 am : link
the Nets gotta go after his money, right?
RE: at some point  
jestersdead : 1/15/2021 9:30 am : link
In comment 15123233 Enzo said:
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the Nets gotta go after his money, right?

League looking into the absence and I believe if he violated the NBA protocol, its like a $450k hit per game to Kyrie
RE: at some point  
nygiants16 : 1/15/2021 9:34 am : link
In comment 15123233 Enzo said:
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the Nets gotta go after his money, right?


There was a report from an executive in the NBA who said Nets can void his contract if he doesnt report soon
zero chance the nets void his deal...  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 9:39 am : link
even with him pulling shit like this they could trade him for something.
RE: zero chance the nets void his deal...  
nygiants16 : 1/15/2021 9:47 am : link
In comment 15123263 Italianju said:
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even with him pulling shit like this they could trade him for something.


Nobody is touching him, even the Knicks wouldnt trade for him
at least Kawhi  
Enzo : 1/15/2021 10:01 am : link
had the decency to exaggerate an injury....
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/15/2021 10:16 am : link
Yeah, I can't imagine any team watching what Kyrie is doing & thinking, 'Yeah! That's what we need!'
RE: zero chance the nets void his deal...  
TyreeHelmet : 1/15/2021 10:20 am : link
In comment 15123263 Italianju said:
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even with him pulling shit like this they could trade him for something.


Just for arguments sake, what team would even currently entertain trading for him?
What value does a guy who never wants to play hold?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/15/2021 10:35 am : link
This isn't even the first time. He just decides to take time off. He's a month in with a new team.
to be clear i dont think the nets get anything...  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 10:42 am : link
of real value for him, but i bet they could trade him. All he would have to do is come back and play for like 5 games in a row and some team would take a shot.

Would lebron give the Ok to jettison spare parts for him? Would Riley think his talent is worth trading away Iggy and Dragic for him?

Again Kyrie would probably have to come back first and he would have to ok the deal, but we have seen this all the time in sports. Its the Crazy/hot scale but its pain in the ass/talent, as long as the talent is there someone will keep taking shots with them.
Get something for him?  
Carl in CT : 1/15/2021 10:47 am : link
Do you think a GM would risk his career and take on that contract with a player of his mind set? I don’t think they would get anything.
Kyrie  
TyreeHelmet : 1/15/2021 10:47 am : link
You are right that people will always gamble on talent. But this guy is flat out refusing to show up for work. And this is the team and situation he chose for himself in his hometown. How could any team rely on him?

Maybe a team would take him in a salary dump but I honestly even doubt that. This is on top of the fact that he is constantly injured.

I don't think the Lakers or Miami would go down that road. You are risking him blowing up your team and you have that monster salary on the books.
doesnt really matter anyway...  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 10:48 am : link
the Nets need him, they have gutted their team for the big 3. If you lose Kyrie its KD/Harden and a bunch of crap. That team isnt getting out of the east despite how amazing that duo is.

Whether they cut him (no chance they do this, they are in cap hell and lose him for nothing, they gain nothing) or trade him for 10 cents on the dollar the team will end up worse and i dont see how they get close to coming out of the East.
i literally said they wont get anything of value for him...  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 10:50 am : link
but i think they would at least get overpaid vets back to make the salaries work.

I just randomly chose MIA and LA.

The contract wouldnt really matter to teams that are way over the cap, that would be the kind of team id be saying would take a chance.

and maybe im wrong....  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 10:52 am : link
wouldnt be the first time, ha. But hey im just happy that this new knicks regime seems to have some self control cause i know i dont want to deal with Kyrie on the Knicks, lol.
League has fined him $50k  
shyster : 1/15/2021 11:45 am : link
and set a 5 day protocol that expires tomorrow.

He has also forfeited $800K in salary for the two games he has missed thus far.

Will he be back vs Magic? Stay tuned.
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oh boy....  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 11:46 am : link
cant wait to see his response to this.
RE: oh boy....  
nygiants16 : 1/15/2021 11:49 am : link
In comment 15123471 Italianju said:
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cant wait to see his response to this.


Apparently he is expected to play saturday
He's a nutter  
JonC : 1/15/2021 11:49 am : link
there's got to be some mental health related issues. You can feel the anger radiate off of him.
the money  
Enzo : 1/15/2021 12:41 pm : link
has gotten so insane for some of these guys that I'm surprised more of them don't act wacky. Between his NBA money and his Nike money (kids LOVE Kyrie)...he's already set for life. What's crazy is that the top top guys are making huge dollars and they're still underpaid.
dont forget that uncle drew money!...  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 12:43 pm : link
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He’s the Kanye West  
illmatic : 1/15/2021 12:48 pm : link
of the NBA.
RE: dont forget that uncle drew money!...  
Enzo : 1/15/2021 12:48 pm : link
In comment 15123543 Italianju said:
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lol. that movie wasn't great, but it was a lot better than I thought it would be...
RE: To me  
jpkmets : 1/15/2021 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15122866 Mike from SI said:
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the guy likely has some pretty bad mental health issues so maybe pump the brakes on hating him intensely or whatever.


Agreed. Sounds like an episode. Hope he gets back into his right mind.
enzo..  
Italianju : 1/15/2021 1:10 pm : link
100% agree. I def didnt hate it, haha.
a pretty solid thank you  
hitdog42 : 1/15/2021 1:25 pm : link
from harden to houston on his IG today.
i have entirely talked myself into being very excited about the trade. i think part of my coping is i can get excited for the cavs too with the Allen.

Not just kids  
ImissTiki : 1/15/2021 1:28 pm : link
I’m 34 and I love watching Kyrie play he’s a absolute magician with the basketball. I wanna see what Irving Durant and Harden look like
RE: a pretty solid thank you  
Enzo : 1/15/2021 1:32 pm : link
In comment 15123584 hitdog42 said:
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from harden to houston on his IG today.
i have entirely talked myself into being very excited about the trade. i think part of my coping is i can get excited for the cavs too with the Allen.

you got a guy who's made first team all nba SIX TIMES. Allen is good but he's about to get really expensive. Lavert is good but he's always hurt and you no longer need him. There is obviously risk with the picks...but only on the back end. I'd be very excited.
RE: a pretty solid thank you  
bceagle05 : 1/15/2021 1:50 pm : link
In comment 15123584 hitdog42 said:
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i have entirely talked myself into being very excited about the trade. i think part of my coping is i can get excited for the cavs too with the Allen.

I'm glad you were able to muster some enthusiasm for three first-ballot Hall of Famers in there primes being on your team! (sarcasm: ON). Just kidding, a trade like that must be a shock to the system for a fan. Now excuse us Knicks fans while we watch our starting backcourt go 4-30 from the field tonight.
Lol  
hitdog42 : 1/15/2021 2:43 pm : link
he had a good presser just now as well.
really its a matter of kyrie playing- if he does- sky is limit- if he doesnt- the other 2 are going to have a difficult (but still possible) track to the finals
RE: a pretty solid thank you  
JayBinQueens : 1/15/2021 2:47 pm : link
In comment 15123584 hitdog42 said:
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from harden to houston on his IG today.
i have entirely talked myself into being very excited about the trade. i think part of my coping is i can get excited for the cavs too with the Allen.

My buddy is from Cleveland and told him he'll like watching Allen.

Cleveland has received some 'fan favorites' in the last few days with Allen and Gimenez
RE: RE: a pretty solid thank you  
hitdog42 : 1/15/2021 2:58 pm : link
In comment 15123640 JayBinQueens said:
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from harden to houston on his IG today.
i have entirely talked myself into being very excited about the trade. i think part of my coping is i can get excited for the cavs too with the Allen.



My buddy is from Cleveland and told him he'll like watching Allen.

Cleveland has received some 'fan favorites' in the last few days with Allen and Gimenez


Cleveland fans and press are finally starting to warm to the job my friend doing as GM.... as if inheriting a departing king and crazy kyrie was some easy starting point for him.

they have a good young core and some vets to trade.
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nygiants16 : 1/15/2021 3:06 pm : link
In comment 15123650 hitdog42 said:
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In comment 15123584 hitdog42 said:


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from harden to houston on his IG today.
i have entirely talked myself into being very excited about the trade. i think part of my coping is i can get excited for the cavs too with the Allen.



My buddy is from Cleveland and told him he'll like watching Allen.

Cleveland has received some 'fan favorites' in the last few days with Allen and Gimenez



Cleveland fans and press are finally starting to warm to the job my friend doing as GM.... as if inheriting a departing king and crazy kyrie was some easy starting point for him.

they have a good young core and some vets to trade.


I am assuming they will be moving Drummond next?
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Enzo : 1/15/2021 3:13 pm : link
In comment 15123650 hitdog42 said:
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In comment 15123584 hitdog42 said:


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from harden to houston on his IG today.
i have entirely talked myself into being very excited about the trade. i think part of my coping is i can get excited for the cavs too with the Allen.



My buddy is from Cleveland and told him he'll like watching Allen.

Cleveland has received some 'fan favorites' in the last few days with Allen and Gimenez



Cleveland fans and press are finally starting to warm to the job my friend doing as GM.... as if inheriting a departing king and crazy kyrie was some easy starting point for him.

they have a good young core and some vets to trade.

just think how much further along they'd be if they didn't botch the Kyrie trade...
yeah its trying to move him  
hitdog42 : 1/15/2021 3:24 pm : link
hope love can play and get moved (harder given salary).

when a guy demands a trade, and you have to get back a vet, a defender, and picks as well... its very hard to find what can work. that had some gilbert in it- the demand.
also he got the nets unprotected pick. the nets outperformed and the pick was 8--- had it been top 5 they get ayton, doncic, young, jaren jackson possibly.
Im not sure what they really could have done much different.


RE: yeah its trying to move him  
Enzo : 1/15/2021 4:18 pm : link
In comment 15123672 hitdog42 said:
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hope love can play and get moved (harder given salary).

when a guy demands a trade, and you have to get back a vet, a defender, and picks as well... its very hard to find what can work. that had some gilbert in it- the demand.
also he got the nets unprotected pick. the nets outperformed and the pick was 8--- had it been top 5 they get ayton, doncic, young, jaren jackson possibly.
Im not sure what they really could have done much different.

compared to other superstar trades, the return was weak. And it was borderline malpractice to take on Isaiah and not know if he was healthy. Even if he was healthy, he was a UFA after a year. And of course the Celtics were sitting on a pile of assets at the time. All kinds of picks from other teams...not to mention Smart, Rozier, Bradley, Brown, Taytum, etc.
He wanted tatum  
hitdog42 : 1/15/2021 5:06 pm : link
Couldn’t get tatum.
Lebron wanted a vet pg a 3 and d guy and Koby wanted picks
You can call it whatever you want but nothing was out there at the time - I think I know a bit about how it went down - and a key was the pick as lebron was 100 percent leaving after that anyways while still complaining and demanding on every move
The fact is he has rebuilt the team post star to have pieces in place nicely - and that is without having any lotto luck
Kyrie out again on Saturday...  
JoeMoney19 : 1/15/2021 5:33 pm : link
According to Malika Andrews

Sources: Kyrie Irving will be out due to health and safety protocols for Saturday’s game against Orlando.

While Irving has expressed a desire to return, sources say, the extensive time away from the court requires a period of ramping up basketball activities.
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