way. Isn't he supremely pissed off that the team didn't do the deal earlier??
Patience is a virtue people!
Let's see the numbers and length. His agents wanted 5 years and apparently no team was willing to go there. They wanted $25 mill per...that one is debatable. I'd have no issue(as if anyone gives a shit what I think) with 3 yrs/$25 mill. But 4/$20ish would be ok too. I think his bat will not diminish substantially and then he can move to 1st.
Cashman's poorest job has been SPs. There is Cole and then a bunch of #3s and #4s. German is(IMHO) the only one on the roster that can approach a #2 and he has not pitched in over a year. They have no one but Cole with an arm built up for over 175 innings. Maybe they can trade for a bulldog. I'd love Bauer but he is too controversial and will be too expensive. I actually don't believe he is too controversial, but the uneasiness with Cole would not work.
Both wanted this to happen. I would assume the deal is four years somewhere around $85 Million. The Yankees accomplish what they set out to do and can now can focus on rounding out the rotation with the money they have left.
Cashman's poorest job has been SPs. There is Cole and then a bunch of #3s and #4s. German is(IMHO) the only one on the roster that can approach a #2 and he has not pitched in over a year. They have no one but Cole with an arm built up for over 175 innings. Maybe they can trade for a bulldog. I'd love Bauer but he is too controversial and will be too expensive. I actually don't believe he is too controversial, but the uneasiness with Cole would not work.
Kluber would be nice but I think he's going to sign with the Red Sox. I guess his wife is from there and already living there? Of course money can change that.
Cashman's poorest job has been SPs. There is Cole and then a bunch of #3s and #4s. German is(IMHO) the only one on the roster that can approach a #2 and he has not pitched in over a year. They have no one but Cole with an arm built up for over 175 innings. Maybe they can trade for a bulldog. I'd love Bauer but he is too controversial and will be too expensive. I actually don't believe he is too controversial, but the uneasiness with Cole would not work.
Both Bauer and Cole are hyper competitive. They would make it work. But they’re not giving two arms $35 per on long term deals.
Cashman's poorest job has been SPs. There is Cole and then a bunch of #3s and #4s. German is(IMHO) the only one on the roster that can approach a #2 and he has not pitched in over a year. They have no one but Cole with an arm built up for over 175 innings. Maybe they can trade for a bulldog. I'd love Bauer but he is too controversial and will be too expensive. I actually don't believe he is too controversial, but the uneasiness with Cole would not work.
Kluber would be nice but I think he's going to sign with the Red Sox. I guess his wife is from there and already living there? Of course money can change that.
I don’t think its a coincidence that just as Kluber’s market begins to take shape that the Yanks settle things with DJLM. The Yanks likely needed to know what kind of spending space they had available before bidding on Kluber.
With DJLM’s contract done, they generally know their budget (though I think it is anyone’s guess how arbitration will work this year).
Remember that the Yanks pitching coach has spent years working with Kluber at his facility- that likely has appeal- as well as the fact that the Yanks are quite likely to be competitive for a playoff spot while the Red Sox maybe on the outside looking in for one more year. Even with Kluber, they just don’t have the SP to compete- and Sale likely doesn’t return until May/June or even July.
He is a must sign, too many home run/strike out guys already, next get a shortstop and move Torres to second, then package Voit and Andujar for pitching help, or seperate deals.
but 1 extra year doesn't bother me in a slightest. Most of the current roster won't be on the books in 2025. He's one of, if not the best contact hitters in the game and something Yankees fans have been clamoring for for what seems like a decade. Well, you kinda have to pay for that.
kinda like the Hicks deal, 1-2 years too much but short terms keeps cost down considerably. This actually now allows room to add another decent FA (Brantley, pitcher, bullpen).
MLBTR's prediction was 4/$92m in a normal year and 4/$68m this year
so it seems they kind of split the baby. DJL was willing to go down for a lower AAV but got close to what FMV was in an overall guarantee. Seems like a fair deal for both sides.
so it seems they kind of split the baby. DJL was willing to go down for a lower AAV but got close to what FMV was in an overall guarantee. Seems like a fair deal for both sides.
Their predictions once again.. have not been great this year lol
Yeah, that's such a team friendly deal. Curious what the yearly payouts are but that likely offers the ability to add another solid player.
Backloading doesn't change anything in regard to the lux tax. If the deal is 6 for 90, he will count 15 million per season against the tax for 6 years regardless of the structure (unless there are deferments)
RE: RE: MLBTR's prediction was 4/$92m in a normal year and 4/$68m this year
so it seems they kind of split the baby. DJL was willing to go down for a lower AAV but got close to what FMV was in an overall guarantee. Seems like a fair deal for both sides.
Their predictions once again.. have not been great this year lol
This year was an impossible year to predict. DJL was their 5th overall FA and it looks like they are going to come within a few million of correct AAV. McCann was 16th overall and got the $10m per projected with 2 extra years.
Hendriks they were low on but they literally said in their prediction "Prior to Brad Hand and his $10MM salary passing through waivers unclaimed, we would have said Will Smith’s three-year, $40MM contract with the Braves would serve as a target for Hendriks. Now, we’re not so sure he can get there."
Nobody knew how the revenue shortfall was going to impact the offseason and the Hand waive happening at the same time as all these predictions were made didn't help accuracy.
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Second baseman DJ LeMahieu and the New York Yankees are finalizing a six-year, $90M contract, sources familiar with the agreement tell ESPN.
LeMahieu’s return to New York always felt inevitable. It took a while. But he wanted to be there and Yankees get top free agent target.
Yeah, that's such a team friendly deal. Curious what the yearly payouts are but that likely offers the ability to add another solid player.
Backloading doesn't change anything in regard to the lux tax. If the deal is 6 for 90, he will count 15 million per season against the tax for 6 years regardless of the structure (unless there are deferments)
Yeah, that's such a team friendly deal. Curious what the yearly payouts are but that likely offers the ability to add another solid player.
Yeah, when I heard the 90 number I thought for sure it would be for 4-5 years. Six makes this very team friendly and I’m curious to see the details.
I wonder if the 6th year is a team option with that money included in the 90? I also wonder especially if it’s a straight six year deal if there’s some reachable incentives in there for DJ?
15 per just seems low and even though the years are long, it’s only 3 mil more than he’s made each of the last two years.
Either way I’m glad they got this done and stoked it’s as low a number as it is.
Eric, again we've yet to see the bloodletting that was predicted. He got 22 million more than MLBTR predicted.
14 out of their top 20 aren't signed yet and of the 6 that signed 2 took QO'ing offers. Kim and McCann were the only other contracts given out before Hendriks/DJL this week and Hendriks is the only one that got a higher AAV than projected.
The bloodletting may not be as bad as it was feared when Hand went unclaimed but it could still be pretty glaring when the dust settles.
seems ridiculously low, I actually feel bad for DJ; he is one of my favorite players and deserves a lot more than that (I was thinking 19-20 over 4 would have been fair).
Bet this jump starts the market.
Patience is a virtue people!
Patience is a virtue people!
Let's see the numbers and length. His agents wanted 5 years and apparently no team was willing to go there. They wanted $25 mill per...that one is debatable. I'd have no issue(as if anyone gives a shit what I think) with 3 yrs/$25 mill. But 4/$20ish would be ok too. I think his bat will not diminish substantially and then he can move to 1st.
Or 3
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Let's find a pitcher or two.
Or 3
Cashman's poorest job has been SPs. There is Cole and then a bunch of #3s and #4s. German is(IMHO) the only one on the roster that can approach a #2 and he has not pitched in over a year. They have no one but Cole with an arm built up for over 175 innings. Maybe they can trade for a bulldog. I'd love Bauer but he is too controversial and will be too expensive. I actually don't believe he is too controversial, but the uneasiness with Cole would not work.
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Let's find a pitcher or two.
Or 3
Cashman's poorest job has been SPs. There is Cole and then a bunch of #3s and #4s. German is(IMHO) the only one on the roster that can approach a #2 and he has not pitched in over a year. They have no one but Cole with an arm built up for over 175 innings. Maybe they can trade for a bulldog. I'd love Bauer but he is too controversial and will be too expensive. I actually don't believe he is too controversial, but the uneasiness with Cole would not work.
Kluber would be nice but I think he's going to sign with the Red Sox. I guess his wife is from there and already living there? Of course money can change that.
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Let's find a pitcher or two.
Or 3
Cashman's poorest job has been SPs. There is Cole and then a bunch of #3s and #4s. German is(IMHO) the only one on the roster that can approach a #2 and he has not pitched in over a year. They have no one but Cole with an arm built up for over 175 innings. Maybe they can trade for a bulldog. I'd love Bauer but he is too controversial and will be too expensive. I actually don't believe he is too controversial, but the uneasiness with Cole would not work.
Both Bauer and Cole are hyper competitive. They would make it work. But they’re not giving two arms $35 per on long term deals.
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In comment 15123089 dune69 said:
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Let's find a pitcher or two.
Or 3
Cashman's poorest job has been SPs. There is Cole and then a bunch of #3s and #4s. German is(IMHO) the only one on the roster that can approach a #2 and he has not pitched in over a year. They have no one but Cole with an arm built up for over 175 innings. Maybe they can trade for a bulldog. I'd love Bauer but he is too controversial and will be too expensive. I actually don't believe he is too controversial, but the uneasiness with Cole would not work.
Kluber would be nice but I think he's going to sign with the Red Sox. I guess his wife is from there and already living there? Of course money can change that.
I don’t think its a coincidence that just as Kluber’s market begins to take shape that the Yanks settle things with DJLM. The Yanks likely needed to know what kind of spending space they had available before bidding on Kluber.
With DJLM’s contract done, they generally know their budget (though I think it is anyone’s guess how arbitration will work this year).
Remember that the Yanks pitching coach has spent years working with Kluber at his facility- that likely has appeal- as well as the fact that the Yanks are quite likely to be competitive for a playoff spot while the Red Sox maybe on the outside looking in for one more year. Even with Kluber, they just don’t have the SP to compete- and Sale likely doesn’t return until May/June or even July.
GROSS
DJ at the price and age + Stanton at that price and age = trouble in 2-3 years.
Their predictions once again.. have not been great this year lol
Interesting. If $90m total is the max than i'll take it.
Yeah, that's such a team friendly deal. Curious what the yearly payouts are but that likely offers the ability to add another solid player.
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years 90 per Passan. A+ move for the Yankees.
Yeah, that's such a team friendly deal. Curious what the yearly payouts are but that likely offers the ability to add another solid player.
Backloading doesn't change anything in regard to the lux tax. If the deal is 6 for 90, he will count 15 million per season against the tax for 6 years regardless of the structure (unless there are deferments)
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so it seems they kind of split the baby. DJL was willing to go down for a lower AAV but got close to what FMV was in an overall guarantee. Seems like a fair deal for both sides.
Their predictions once again.. have not been great this year lol
This year was an impossible year to predict. DJL was their 5th overall FA and it looks like they are going to come within a few million of correct AAV. McCann was 16th overall and got the $10m per projected with 2 extra years.
Hendriks they were low on but they literally said in their prediction "Prior to Brad Hand and his $10MM salary passing through waivers unclaimed, we would have said Will Smith’s three-year, $40MM contract with the Braves would serve as a target for Hendriks. Now, we’re not so sure he can get there."
Nobody knew how the revenue shortfall was going to impact the offseason and the Hand waive happening at the same time as all these predictions were made didn't help accuracy.
Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
MLB, fearing the pandemic could create havoc with scheduling, is planning to bring back 7-inning doubleheaders and runner on 2nd base in extra innings in talks with the union. The universal DH and expanded playoffs still being negotiated.
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Second baseman DJ LeMahieu and the New York Yankees are finalizing a six-year, $90M contract, sources familiar with the agreement tell ESPN.
LeMahieu’s return to New York always felt inevitable. It took a while. But he wanted to be there and Yankees get top free agent target.
...6 years!! Helps that luxury tax a bunch
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Source: Dodgers offered LeMahieu 4/60. Blue jays offered him 4/78
Braves were interested. Mets were too.
Also being told he was very close to going to Toronto
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years 90 per Passan. A+ move for the Yankees.
Yeah, that's such a team friendly deal. Curious what the yearly payouts are but that likely offers the ability to add another solid player.
Backloading doesn't change anything in regard to the lux tax. If the deal is 6 for 90, he will count 15 million per season against the tax for 6 years regardless of the structure (unless there are deferments)
Good call, didn't know that, thanks.
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years 90 per Passan. A+ move for the Yankees.
Yeah, that's such a team friendly deal. Curious what the yearly payouts are but that likely offers the ability to add another solid player.
Yeah, when I heard the 90 number I thought for sure it would be for 4-5 years. Six makes this very team friendly and I’m curious to see the details.
I wonder if the 6th year is a team option with that money included in the 90? I also wonder especially if it’s a straight six year deal if there’s some reachable incentives in there for DJ?
15 per just seems low and even though the years are long, it’s only 3 mil more than he’s made each of the last two years.
Either way I’m glad they got this done and stoked it’s as low a number as it is.
14 out of their top 20 aren't signed yet and of the 6 that signed 2 took QO'ing offers. Kim and McCann were the only other contracts given out before Hendriks/DJL this week and Hendriks is the only one that got a higher AAV than projected.
The bloodletting may not be as bad as it was feared when Hand went unclaimed but it could still be pretty glaring when the dust settles.
Great news!