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NFT: Yankee News: DJ Finalizing deal to return to yanks

BeckShepEli : 1/15/2021 6:37 am
Per Jon Morosi. Should be done today
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RE: 15 AAV  
Carson53 : 1/15/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15123386 Essex said:
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seems ridiculously low, I actually feel bad for DJ; he is one of my favorite players and deserves a lot more than that (I was thinking 19-20 over 4 would have been fair).
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Seems like a trade off, the extra year for a lower AAV,
I want to see the actual details myself.
I was thinking 4/85, with a vesting option for a 5th year.
RE: 6 years 90 million  
Heisenberg : 1/15/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15123315 nygiants16 said:
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according to Passan


Underpaid for the first few years for sure. We'll see about the last few years. I love it though. Love having that guy on the team.
RE: So they pretty much outbid themselves  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2021 11:05 am : link
In comment 15123338 Saquads26 said:
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Doubt the Toronto offer is legit. Stupid


LOL. So this is what you takeaway from it?? Jesus
Kind of surprised he didn’t take  
illmatic : 1/15/2021 11:09 am : link
that offer from Toronto but I guess being on a winning team means something to him. Or it could be he didn’t think he would land a nice contract once the four years were up. Looks like a great deal though. Seems like teams are still willing to spend quite a bit for the right players.

Hopefully they can land at least a couple good pitchers now.
It's  
DanMetroMan : 1/15/2021 11:10 am : link
official. 6 years 90 million per Heyman
RE: Kind of surprised he didn’t take  
DanMetroMan : 1/15/2021 11:11 am : link
In comment 15123417 illmatic said:
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that offer from Toronto but I guess being on a winning team means something to him. Or it could be he didn’t think he would land a nice contract once the four years were up. Looks like a great deal though. Seems like teams are still willing to spend quite a bit for the right players.

Hopefully they can land at least a couple good pitchers now.


Likely wanted to stay and questioned if he would "find" enough money post 4 years to risk the extra 12.
Now  
Carson53 : 1/15/2021 11:14 am : link
They can go out and get a starting pitcher, Tanaka?
Maybe a Odorizzi, he's not bad. They won't bring in a Bauer, he is not the Yanks type of player.
With this AAV of DJ at 15 mill. per (helps w/luxury tax too)...Maybe a relief pitcher as well, to replace Kahnle.
RE: 15 AAV  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2021 11:16 am : link
In comment 15123386 Essex said:
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seems ridiculously low, I actually feel bad for DJ; he is one of my favorite players and deserves a lot more than that (I was thinking 19-20 over 4 would have been fair).


I hear you but he's getting $10m and being paid until he's 38/39. Sure, that 4 year deal leaves open the opportunity for more money at 36, but probably not much more.
Feinsand  
Carson53 : 1/15/2021 11:18 am : link
was just on MLBN, he was reporting that the Jays had
offered 4/78, and the Yanks originally were at 4/80.
That's what he is 'reporting', of course we don't know.
RE: Kind of surprised he didn’t take  
rich in DC : 1/15/2021 12:23 pm : link
In comment 15123417 illmatic said:
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that offer from Toronto but I guess being on a winning team means something to him. Or it could be he didn’t think he would land a nice contract once the four years were up. Looks like a great deal though. Seems like teams are still willing to spend quite a bit for the right players.

Hopefully they can land at least a couple good pitchers now.


It’s actually a smart deal on both sides. While I am not in favor of long deals for players approaching their mid 30’s, as history tells us that the decline is rapid for INF after 35, the low average value of the deal makes up for it.

From DJLM’s perspective, he gets an additional $30M over the prior offers- more money, but to get it he had to agree to less money annually. However, that in turn is offset by the fact that he will be 38 at the end of the deal and likely looking at year-to-year deals at that age. His agent likely pointed out that older vets are getting beat up in FA and that if he took a 4 year deal, he’d likely be looking at low dollar yearly deals.

DJLM probably gets more at age 36, 37 and 38 than he gets on one year deals, but sacrificed being a $20M a year guy to instead be a $15M a year guy.

For the Yanks it makes sense because the average value of the deal is what is used for luxury tax purposes, not the actual payout. To illustrate, Stanton is going to be paid $29M in 2021, but for luxury tax purposes, he only counts for $22M. That is because the average value of his deal is $25M, but MLB determined that because the Marlins will pay the Yanks $30M (with 10 years left on his deal when traded to the Yanks) that $20M was spread over the remaining 10 years to offset the average value, thus reducing it from $25M to $22M annually.

Thus, the Yanks original offer and the Jays offer would have amounted to around $20M per, but now they are only counted as $15M annually, saving another $5M to spend elsewhere for tax purposes. That may be important this offseason if Hal is really requiring the team to stay below the luxury tax limit.

Both sides appear to benefit. Not perfect for either, but that’s the way compromise works.
RE: 15 AAV  
Enzo : 1/15/2021 12:37 pm : link
In comment 15123386 Essex said:
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seems ridiculously low, I actually feel bad for DJ; he is one of my favorite players and deserves a lot more than that (I was thinking 19-20 over 4 would have been fair).

he decided to take extra guaranteed money instead of becoming a free agent earlier. Might end up being a smart move if he's washed up in 4 years.
6 years isn't ideal  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/15/2021 12:47 pm : link
for a guy who will be 32/33 in his 1st year of the deal. But that's what happens when you try to negotiate a lower AAV, which the Yanks successfully did.

If we get 3 more years of roughly the same performance that we've seen over the past 2 years, then this deal will be worth it. Over the last 2 years he has been 12th in fWAR, 1st in BA, 10th in wRC+. Just a complete stud and the most consistent player on the team. I'm glad to have him back, hopefully he keeps on killing it in pinstripes.
From DJ's point of view  
Ron from Ninerland : 1/15/2021 1:20 pm : link
he may be anticipating the owners getting concessions from the MLPA from playing in front of empty stands. With the lower AAV and extra years it affects him less.

Any word on whether he negotiated an opt-out ?
Also IFA signings began today  
Dunedin81 : 1/15/2021 1:48 pm : link
Hans Montero got $1.4 or $1.7, depending on who you ask. Kiley had him as his #9, BA had him at 21. SS who does a little bit of everything, light on power at least at present.
Six years is a lot.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/15/2021 1:51 pm : link
Ben Zobrist was a good player through the age of 35. If LeMahieu was able to match that, it wouldn’t be a problem though. Happy to see him back.
He probably used the Dodgers  
5BowlsSoon : 1/15/2021 1:59 pm : link
And the Dodgers apparently were using him (Justin Turner resign?).
RE: 15 AAV  
Victor in CT : 1/15/2021 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15123386 Essex said:
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seems ridiculously low, I actually feel bad for DJ; he is one of my favorite players and deserves a lot more than that (I was thinking 19-20 over 4 would have been fair).


boohoo. I hope he can pay the rent LOL
years 5 and 6 don't bother me  
bigbluehoya : 1/15/2021 2:17 pm : link
I didn't want to go there, but I also thought a 4 year deal was going to cost them $80. So, a little more term at a substantially lower AAV is fine with me.
I'm not concerned about his age.  
Jeever : 1/15/2021 3:04 pm : link
He'll probably be at 1st base in a few years with Torres moving to 2nd where he belongs. I'd take a flier on Didi if he would go 1 or 2 yrs. I like his lefty bat as well.
RE: RE: 15 AAV  
Essex : 1/15/2021 3:32 pm : link
In comment 15123608 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 15123386 Essex said:


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seems ridiculously low, I actually feel bad for DJ; he is one of my favorite players and deserves a lot more than that (I was thinking 19-20 over 4 would have been fair).



boohoo. I hope he can pay the rent LOL


I get that, but if someone is going to get rich our an outlandish contract (which there are some in baseball that do although it is becoming less and less), I wish it was a guy that I think the world of.
I don't like six years.  
section125 : 1/15/2021 7:41 pm : link
I do like $15 mill. His bat won't go south, IMV.

If the rumors on Corey Kluber are true, this will be a good day.
RE: I don't like six years.  
dpinzow : 1/15/2021 8:03 pm : link
In comment 15123832 section125 said:
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I do like $15 mill. His bat won't go south, IMV.

If the rumors on Corey Kluber are true, this will be a good day.


DJ's style of hitting ages well IMO because he's not a power guy
I like the deal, but in 5 years there may be a couple of dead weights  
Jim in Hoboken : 1/16/2021 10:46 am : link
on the roster. A 37 yo DJ hitting .275 with no range at any defensive position may just be sitting on the bench only.

So what does this mean, essentially the same line-up as last year?
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