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Saturday NFL Divisional Round Playoff Thread

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/16/2021 1:50 pm


Rams at Packers (4:35 PM ET)


Ravens at Bills (8:15 PM ET)



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Route 9 : 1/16/2021 1:54 pm : link
I really like the Rams in this one. Love it when Rodgers goes home.
Some good games today!  
Bramton1 : 1/16/2021 2:37 pm : link
Don't think anyone would be shocked if both road teams won today.
Green Bay Packers Offensive Line  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 2:43 pm : link
has been impressive. These guys have supported one of the best and most productive offenses in the league. And now they go today without All-Pro LT Bakhtiari who tore his ACL at the end of the season.


LT - Billy Turner (2014 Rd3 pick of MIA, 2019 free agent addition)
LG - Elgton Jenkins (2019 Rd2 pick of GB)
C - Corey Linsley (2014 Rd5 pick of GB)
RG - Lucas Patrick (2016 UDFA of GB)
RT - Rick Wagner (2013 Rd5 pick of BAL, 2020 free agent addition)

Not exactly first rounders or the highest paid Offensive lineman in league history. Even Bakhtiari was a 4th rd pick himself.

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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2021 3:24 pm : link
Go Bills.
RE: ......  
BigBlueShock : 1/16/2021 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15124266 Route 9 said:
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I really like the Rams in this one. Love it when Rodgers goes home.

I see no way in hell Goff with a broken finger can be effective enough in freezing temps to come away with a win. He’s bad in cold weather without the broken finger...Rodgers rolls today
RE: ......  
jnoble : 1/16/2021 3:32 pm : link
In comment 15124266 Route 9 said:
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I really like the Rams in this one. Love it when Rodgers goes home.


Me too but I don't see the Rams not getting their asses handed to them like 37-7 or similar
I don't think Goff is going to have to do that much to win  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 3:39 pm : link
Rams offensive line is completely different when Whitworth is in the lineup. That Rams defense is for real and their secondary can cover throughout. Rodgers had multiple decisions against the bears should have resulted in interceptions but they didn't make him pay for it. Rams secondary will.
RE: Green Bay Packers Offensive Line  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15124295 LBH15 said:
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has been impressive. These guys have supported one of the best and most productive offenses in the league. And now they go today without All-Pro LT Bakhtiari who tore his ACL at the end of the season.


LT - Billy Turner (2014 Rd3 pick of MIA, 2019 free agent addition)
LG - Elgton Jenkins (2019 Rd2 pick of GB)
C - Corey Linsley (2014 Rd5 pick of GB)
RG - Lucas Patrick (2016 UDFA of GB)
RT - Rick Wagner (2013 Rd5 pick of BAL, 2020 free agent addition)

Not exactly first rounders or the highest paid Offensive lineman in league history. Even Bakhtiari was a 4th rd pick himself.

let's see what they do today
RE: I don't think Goff is going to have to do that much to win  
BigBlueShock : 1/16/2021 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15124324 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Rams offensive line is completely different when Whitworth is in the lineup. That Rams defense is for real and their secondary can cover throughout. Rodgers had multiple decisions against the bears should have resulted in interceptions but they didn't make him pay for it. Rams secondary will.

I guess we shall find out. For now we will agree to disagree. I don’t see the Rams being able to do near enough offensively. The Packers will score. Can the Rams? I don’t think so but weirder things have happened.
RE: RE: I don't think Goff is going to have to do that much to win  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 3:50 pm : link
In comment 15124338 BigBlueShock said:
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Rams offensive line is completely different when Whitworth is in the lineup. That Rams defense is for real and their secondary can cover throughout. Rodgers had multiple decisions against the bears should have resulted in interceptions but they didn't make him pay for it. Rams secondary will.


I guess we shall find out. For now we will agree to disagree. I don’t see the Rams being able to do near enough offensively. The Packers will score. Can the Rams? I don’t think so but weirder things have happened.



Not saying they win but I think they keep it close. Sometime all it takes is a special teams touchdown or defensive TD paired with a productive run game and no turnovers when you have a great defense like the Rams
RE: RE: RE: I don't think Goff is going to have to do that much to win  
section125 : 1/16/2021 4:16 pm : link
In comment 15124343 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Rams offensive line is completely different when Whitworth is in the lineup. That Rams defense is for real and their secondary can cover throughout. Rodgers had multiple decisions against the bears should have resulted in interceptions but they didn't make him pay for it. Rams secondary will.


I guess we shall find out. For now we will agree to disagree. I don’t see the Rams being able to do near enough offensively. The Packers will score. Can the Rams? I don’t think so but weirder things have happened.




Not saying they win but I think they keep it close. Sometime all it takes is a special teams touchdown or defensive TD paired with a productive run game and no turnovers when you have a great defense like the Rams


Quite frankly, Goff is one of the most overrated QBs in the NFL.
The Rams "D" will keep it reasonably close.
Yeah Goff is thoroughly mediocre and thats my position  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 4:24 pm : link
Since he's been drafted. Contrary To popular belief on BBI though the quarterback is only one factor of many of winning and losing.
That Packers fan sketch  
BestFeature : 1/16/2021 4:24 pm : link
was the cringiest thing I've ever seen.
RE: Green Bay Packers Offensive Line  
ColHowPepper : 1/16/2021 4:30 pm : link
In comment 15124295 LBH15 said:
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has been impressive. These guys have supported one of the best and most productive offenses in the league. And now they go today without All-Pro LT Bakhtiari who tore his ACL at the end of the season.


LT - Billy Turner (2014 Rd3 pick of MIA, 2019 free agent addition)
LG - Elgton Jenkins (2019 Rd2 pick of GB)
C - Corey Linsley (2014 Rd5 pick of GB)
RG - Lucas Patrick (2016 UDFA of GB)
RT - Rick Wagner (2013 Rd5 pick of BAL, 2020 free agent addition)

Not exactly first rounders or the highest paid Offensive lineman in league history. Even Bakhtiari was a 4th rd pick himself.
Amazing what a FO's eyes for talent post-Day 1 can do for a team. Giants' fans wouldn't know.
RE: That Packers fan sketch  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15124364 BestFeature said:
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was the cringiest thing I've ever seen.


I almost never watch these pregame shows. And that skit reminded me why.
RE: Green Bay Packers Offensive Line  
ImissTiki : 1/16/2021 4:35 pm : link
In comment 15124295 LBH15 said:
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has been impressive. These guys have supported one of the best and most productive offenses in the league. And now they go today without All-Pro LT Bakhtiari who tore his ACL at the end of the season.


LT - Billy Turner (2014 Rd3 pick of MIA, 2019 free agent addition)
LG - Elgton Jenkins (2019 Rd2 pick of GB)
C - Corey Linsley (2014 Rd5 pick of GB)
RG - Lucas Patrick (2016 UDFA of GB)
RT - Rick Wagner (2013 Rd5 pick of BAL, 2020 free agent addition)

Not exactly first rounders or the highest paid Offensive lineman in league history. Even Bakhtiari was a 4th rd pick himself.

Wow great job building that OL, Giants should take lessons
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Route 9 : 1/16/2021 4:37 pm : link
Nice crowd. Let's go Rams.
RE: That Packers fan sketch  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 4:37 pm : link
In comment 15124364 BestFeature said:
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was the cringiest thing I've ever seen.


You expect more from people who live in Wisconsin?
#28 Green Bay RB is a big boy  
ImissTiki : 1/16/2021 4:41 pm : link
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80% in the red zone ... Amazing stat  
ImissTiki : 1/16/2021 4:45 pm : link
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Aaron Rodgers  
cjac : 1/16/2021 4:46 pm : link
Is such a fucking dick
Anyone know  
joeinpa : 1/16/2021 4:48 pm : link
# of fans allowed there today?
RE: Aaron Rodgers  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 4:50 pm : link
In comment 15124384 cjac said:
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Is such a fucking dick


Why? Ever since he went over the 50,000 passing yard mark, I think he has been fine.
RE: RE: That Packers fan sketch  
jnoble : 1/16/2021 4:51 pm : link
In comment 15124372 LBH15 said:
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was the cringiest thing I've ever seen.



I almost never watch these pregame shows. And that skit reminded me why.


I was just about to post on this . Anyone remember the last time any of the FOX pregame comedy sketches were remotely funny? I can't.
RE: Aaron Rodgers  
Eman11 : 1/16/2021 4:53 pm : link
In comment 15124384 cjac said:
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Is such a fucking dick


Watch his hands on some of his hard counts. He’ll try the hard count more than once on some plays and on the second one he thrusts his hands forward while in shotgun. Not sure how that’s not a penalty for simulating a snap.

I’ve seen him do that before and he’s already done it once today, on one of those red zone plays.
Three weeks after surgery  
joeinpa : 1/16/2021 4:54 pm : link
And Goff out there throwing strikes. These guys are amazing
The reason I said he’s a dick  
cjac : 1/16/2021 4:55 pm : link
Is for him saying “catch the fucking ball” after that 3rd down play

It was just good defense. You don’t show up your teammates. I don’t care who you are or how many yards you’ve thrown for.
RE: The reason I said he’s a dick  
jnoble : 1/16/2021 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15124394 cjac said:
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Is for him saying “catch the fucking ball” after that 3rd down play

It was just good defense. You don’t show up your teammates. I don’t care who you are or how many yards you’ve thrown for.


Can you imagine if he had Evan Engram on his team?
:-)
RE: The reason I said he’s a dick  
Eman11 : 1/16/2021 4:58 pm : link
In comment 15124394 cjac said:
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Is for him saying “catch the fucking ball” after that 3rd down play

It was just good defense. You don’t show up your teammates. I don’t care who you are or how many yards you’ve thrown for.


Haha, funny how I didn’t see his WR say throw it lower on the high pass in the end zone that would’ve been a TD if it was a better pass.
That's a horrendous penalty  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 4:58 pm : link
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RE: The reason I said he’s a dick  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 5:02 pm : link
In comment 15124394 cjac said:
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Is for him saying “catch the fucking ball” after that 3rd down play

It was just good defense. You don’t show up your teammates. I don’t care who you are or how many yards you’ve thrown for.


Agreed. Not a good look as the TV camera caught him.
RE: RE: The reason I said he’s a dick  
Producer : 1/16/2021 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15124397 jnoble said:
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Is for him saying “catch the fucking ball” after that 3rd down play

It was just good defense. You don’t show up your teammates. I don’t care who you are or how many yards you’ve thrown for.



Can you imagine if he had Evan Engram on his team?
:-)


he has three Engram's on his team.
RE: RE: RE: The reason I said he’s a dick  
jnoble : 1/16/2021 5:07 pm : link
In comment 15124411 Producer said:
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Is for him saying “catch the fucking ball” after that 3rd down play

It was just good defense. You don’t show up your teammates. I don’t care who you are or how many yards you’ve thrown for.



Can you imagine if he had Evan Engram on his team?
:-)



he has three Engram's on his team.


I'll agree to that as soon as one of them not only drops a pass but bats it up in the air for an easy turnover
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Route 9 : 1/16/2021 5:07 pm : link
Good coaching. Running AWAY from Aaron Donald. Giants would be running right at him.
RE: The reason I said he’s a dick  
Producer : 1/16/2021 5:08 pm : link
In comment 15124394 cjac said:
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Is for him saying “catch the fucking ball” after that 3rd down play

It was just good defense. You don’t show up your teammates. I don’t care who you are or how many yards you’ve thrown for.


If he was on the Giants he would be your favorite player ever.. dude is soooo good.
There s been many great quarterbacks/ leaders  
joeinpa : 1/16/2021 5:08 pm : link
Who were hard on teammates when they screw up.

I kind of wish Eli would have done it once on a while.
I really enjoy...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 5:08 pm : link
the way the Rams D runs to the ball.

Good blend of team speed and hustle.
Floyd just got bullied.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:08 pm : link
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RE: RE: The reason I said he’s a dick  
cjac : 1/16/2021 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15124414 Producer said:
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Is for him saying “catch the fucking ball” after that 3rd down play

It was just good defense. You don’t show up your teammates. I don’t care who you are or how many yards you’ve thrown for.



If he was on the Giants he would be your favorite player ever.. dude is soooo good.


I know he’s great. But I hate him.

I hated Shockey and Odell too
RE: RE: RE: RE: The reason I said he’s a dick  
Producer : 1/16/2021 5:09 pm : link
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Is for him saying “catch the fucking ball” after that 3rd down play

It was just good defense. You don’t show up your teammates. I don’t care who you are or how many yards you’ve thrown for.



Can you imagine if he had Evan Engram on his team?
:-)



he has three Engram's on his team.



I'll agree to that as soon as one of them not only drops a pass but bats it up in the air for an easy turnover


MVS, for instance has atrocious hands. Believe me, Engram is no worse than him.
GB's OL schemes  
ColHowPepper : 1/16/2021 5:09 pm : link
vs Rams' front and Donald in particular, very impressive, so far. Kudos to LaFleur and OL coach. Donald not a factor right now.
Tonyan  
CowboyHaters : 1/16/2021 5:10 pm : link
is a much better TE than Engram. It helps to have AR as your QB, but he seems to have much better hands than EE.
I love watching OL and DL mix it up  
ImissTiki : 1/16/2021 5:12 pm : link
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RE: Tonyan  
Producer : 1/16/2021 5:12 pm : link
In comment 15124423 CowboyHaters said:
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is a much better TE than Engram. It helps to have AR as your QB, but he seems to have much better hands than EE.

yea overall i would agree. he is way steadier. AR makes him much better than he really is, but he seems to have reliable hands.
Bad penalty...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 5:13 pm : link
by the best defensive player of all time...
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Route 9 : 1/16/2021 5:16 pm : link
come on Donald. Two wrongs don't make a right you're supposed to allow people to walk all over you. We only catch the second guy.
Big #63 on Green Bay just moving people off the ball  
ImissTiki : 1/16/2021 5:16 pm : link
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How fast was that release???  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 5:16 pm : link
Unbelievable.
RE: RE: Green Bay Packers Offensive Line  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 5:17 pm : link
In comment 15124329 Zeke's Alibi said:
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has been impressive. These guys have supported one of the best and most productive offenses in the league. And now they go today without All-Pro LT Bakhtiari who tore his ACL at the end of the season.


LT - Billy Turner (2014 Rd3 pick of MIA, 2019 free agent addition)
LG - Elgton Jenkins (2019 Rd2 pick of GB)
C - Corey Linsley (2014 Rd5 pick of GB)
RG - Lucas Patrick (2016 UDFA of GB)
RT - Rick Wagner (2013 Rd5 pick of BAL, 2020 free agent addition)

Not exactly first rounders or the highest paid Offensive lineman in league history. Even Bakhtiari was a 4th rd pick himself.



let's see what they do today


I think they’re holding up pretty well.

:- )
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christian : 1/16/2021 5:19 pm : link
Rodgers, all things considered, is the best passing QB I’ve ever seen.
Really smart by La Fluer....Ramsey was way overagressive  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:19 pm : link
In his sit when he trailed him. Than gets caught sleeping other way. Not sure what Ramsey is bitching about, that’s not a play you needed to switch at all. Just cuz he made you look terrible on national atage is no reason to atage up your teammate. What a bitch. Also moose is the fucking worst.
I think the Packers and Chiefs  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 5:19 pm : link
Are on a collision course for the Super Bowl.
Donald is getting his lunch eaten today  
Stan in LA : 1/16/2021 5:20 pm : link
Usually by only one blocker #JohnJerry.

Can you spell "overrated?"
RE: I think the Packers and Chiefs  
Producer : 1/16/2021 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15124436 chopperhatch said:
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Are on a collision course for the Super Bowl.


my feeling as well
I don’t care who wins  
bubba0825 : 1/16/2021 5:22 pm : link
But that linebacker clearly hit a rb in the head after the pass, no call. It’s too inconsistent
You look at the Green Bay...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 5:23 pm : link
OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.
RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 5:24 pm : link
In comment 15124443 bw in dc said:
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.


Dude, do you ever fucking quit? Jesus Christ you are exhausting.
Rams killing themselves with penalties.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:25 pm : link
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Seriously, can you imagine losing your All Pro Left Tackle  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 5:26 pm : link
and your oline just goes out and pushes the #1 defense around like it’s another day at the park?

Well coached, well disciplined, tough Offensive Line unit.

RE: Donald is getting his lunch eaten today  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:26 pm : link
In comment 15124437 Stan in LA said:
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Usually by only one blocker #JohnJerry.

Can you spell "overrated?"


Dudes playing with torn rib cartilage. Can’t imagine playing DL with that, play after play.
GB scores a TD here I think you see them  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:30 pm : link
tighten coverage.
Aaron Jones  
Producer : 1/16/2021 5:31 pm : link
such a nifty little back. Great moves, nice burst. One of the best RBs in the league.
RE: Seriously, can you imagine losing your All Pro Left Tackle  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 5:33 pm : link
In comment 15124447 LBH15 said:
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and your oline just goes out and pushes the #1 defense around like it’s another day at the park?

Well coached, well disciplined, tough Offensive Line unit.


It is incredible.

I can't prove this, but I think there Rodgers is an intangible factor in this. I would imagine players just want to dig and player better because they realize who they are blocking for one of the all-time greats...
OL playing well.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:34 pm : link
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Why do the refs stand over the ball  
bubba0825 : 1/16/2021 5:34 pm : link
Waiting for the defense to substitute when we try to line up quick and when the packers line up to catch the d substituting the refs do nothing?
Moose Johnston...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 5:34 pm : link
is a very good, underrated analyst.
I'll say this much  
Greg from LI : 1/16/2021 5:36 pm : link
Aaron Donald ain't no LT. Shouldn't hear that comparison ever again.
Shit I just got Rodgered.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:37 pm : link
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effing masterful  
ColHowPepper : 1/16/2021 5:37 pm : link
the drive, even w/offensive holding called, and AR's faking the DB off his feet as he walks into EZ
that was a  
Producer : 1/16/2021 5:37 pm : link
major league fake by Rodgers, right there..
That  
AcidTest : 1/16/2021 5:37 pm : link
was great by Rodgers.
Notice Green Bay with inopportune holding call on Tonyan  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 5:37 pm : link
in the red zone, yet they overcome it with good OL play and score a TD anyway. Linsley at Center is really good.

And Aaron Rodgers is just simply great.

Floyd not playing so well  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:37 pm : link
Stay on your damn feet dummy.
Rodgers is a special talent.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2021 5:37 pm : link
Not breaking news obviously.
Hard to believe they’ve  
Ron Johnson : 1/16/2021 5:38 pm : link
Only won one Super Bowl with Rodgers.

The guy is fucking great.
.  
Banks : 1/16/2021 5:41 pm : link
watch that missed xp come back to blow the spread
I am rooting for Buffalo but  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 5:41 pm : link
Aaron Rodgers vs Pat Mahomes would make for a fun Super Bowl matchup.

RE: .  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 5:42 pm : link
In comment 15124475 Banks said:
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watch that missed xp come back to blow the spread


Beat me to the punch...or the O/U...
RE: Moose Johnston...  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 5:43 pm : link
In comment 15124460 bw in dc said:
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is a very good, underrated analyst.


My favorite commentator.
RE: I'll say this much  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 5:46 pm : link
In comment 15124461 Greg from LI said:
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Aaron Donald ain't no LT. Shouldn't hear that comparison ever again.


He now has a target on his back because of that comparison by Clay Aikman.. he's no where close. LT didn't even prepare for games, he showed up and just dominated. Once in a century player.
So far, this Rams Packers game has exemplified the importance  
BelieveJJ : 1/16/2021 5:47 pm : link
of having bullies along your DL from tackle to tackle.

It seems the defenses want to play at most 5 in the box to keep plenty of people back in coverage.

And neither team has been able to control their opponent's rushing attack with so few bodies in the box, something the Giants were usually pretty good at this past year.
Why the fuck did McVay call a timeout  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:47 pm : link
Dumb
I’m glad this is a game  
cjac : 1/16/2021 5:48 pm : link
Was expecting a blowout
GB should have used timeout  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:48 pm : link
. My god the coaches taking stupid pills today.
Great throw by Goff  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 5:50 pm : link
Rams offense had a nice response there to stay in the game. Good for them.
McVay had plenty opps  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:53 pm : link
On offense to make sure this didn’t happen.
Wow gotta make that play  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 5:55 pm : link
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Two dropped INTs  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 5:55 pm : link
Can't do that and beat Rodgers
RE: Wow gotta make that play  
EricJ : 1/16/2021 5:56 pm : link
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another example of a guy who simply does not know how to catch a football. He should be reaching out and catching with his hands.. NOT trying to trap the ball against his chest
Rams DBs drop two straight picks.  
BelieveJJ : 1/16/2021 5:56 pm : link
Easy ones really.

The mystique of Rodgers did it.

But he's been good, smart and patient.
Ram's need a healthy Donald bad  
stoneman : 1/16/2021 6:05 pm : link
this Ram defense is not stopping anything today. Shows how much a stud on the line counts.
Rams are toast without a healthy Donald.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 6:13 pm : link
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Route 9 : 1/16/2021 6:16 pm : link
I hope Pam Oliver is OK.

She seems a bit... tipsy.
Well this pretty much over  
bigbluescot : 1/16/2021 6:16 pm : link
Rams can’t stop them and Green Bay will tee off on Goff
RE: ......  
jnoble : 1/16/2021 6:17 pm : link
In comment 15124515 Route 9 said:
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I hope Pam Oliver is OK.

She seems a bit... tipsy.


I haven't noticed
RE: RE: I'll say this much  
dlauster : 1/16/2021 6:17 pm : link
In comment 15124482 The Truth said:
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Aaron Donald ain't no LT. Shouldn't hear that comparison ever again.



He now has a target on his back because of that comparison by Clay Aikman.. he's no where close. LT didn't even prepare for games, he showed up and just dominated. Once in a century player.


I agree with both of these comments!
RE: Rams DBs drop two straight picks.  
Eman11 : 1/16/2021 6:18 pm : link
In comment 15124497 BelieveJJ said:
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Easy ones really.

The mystique of Rodgers did it.

But he's been good, smart and patient.


The first one for sure was easy but the second the DB had a legit gripe. The WR grabbed and held onto his one arm before the ball got there. He would’ve had to make that pick with one hand.

They never call that on the O but they should.
Floyd isn’t very good when he’s the only guy to account fot.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 6:18 pm : link
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Huh?  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 6:21 pm : link
Maybe she's just a bit cold.
RE: RE: Rams DBs drop two straight picks.  
BelieveJJ : 1/16/2021 6:23 pm : link
In comment 15124519 Eman11 said:
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Easy ones really.

The mystique of Rodgers did it.

But he's been good, smart and patient.



The first one for sure was easy but the second the DB had a legit gripe. The WR grabbed and held onto his one arm before the ball got there. He would’ve had to make that pick with one hand.

They never call that on the O but they should.


Point taken.
RE: RE: Rams DBs drop two straight picks.  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 6:25 pm : link
In comment 15124519 Eman11 said:
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Easy ones really.

The mystique of Rodgers did it.

But he's been good, smart and patient.



The first one for sure was easy but the second the DB had a legit gripe. The WR grabbed and held onto his one arm before the ball got there. He would’ve had to make that pick with one hand.

They never call that on the O but they should.


Smart play by the O
RE: RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/16/2021 6:27 pm : link
In comment 15124444 chopperhatch said:
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.



Dude, do you ever fucking quit? Jesus Christ you are exhausting.


The Pack has t has t had a rest OL years. Rodgers is easily one of the top 5 QB of all time. Not giving DG a total pass but Reese is the architect of this teams failure to find OL for 11 years. lol. Don't come here much anymore but a stupid comment by bw. Some things never change
Even historically great QBs  
BelieveJJ : 1/16/2021 6:30 pm : link
get bitch slappped by receiver drops, eh?
RE: Huh?  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 6:30 pm : link
In comment 15124521 Route 9 said:
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Maybe she's just a bit cold.


Yeh I hope she’s not having a stroke seriously.
as I said  
Producer : 1/16/2021 6:30 pm : link
earlier.. Rodgers has a few Engrams..
Rodgers' attitude  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 6:31 pm : link
and histrionics after every fucking play is a huge smudge on his career. I am actively rooting against him because he is such a prick.

Lets go RAMS!
What a play by CB  
BelieveJJ : 1/16/2021 6:32 pm : link
Williams.
RE: as I said  
jnoble : 1/16/2021 6:33 pm : link
In comment 15124535 Producer said:
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earlier.. Rodgers has a few Engrams..


Lol
RE: ......  
Eman11 : 1/16/2021 6:35 pm : link
In comment 15124515 Route 9 said:
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I hope Pam Oliver is OK.

She seems a bit... tipsy.


I thought the same thing. I was hoping she wasn’t having a stroke on Natl TV and might’ve just been hitting the bottle a little bit.
RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 6:41 pm : link
In comment 15124443 bw in dc said:
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.


Wow, can you put the freaking schtick down for one evening and enjoy some playoff football. Pick your exhausting bloviating back up again on Monday. So annoying. Also looking forward to your normal annoying response to this with your normal jab at “Jints Central” intertwined. God life must suck being so negative all the time.
Touchdown!  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 6:43 pm : link
Fuck yeah. Let's go Rams.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 6:44 pm : link
hook and lateral?
Nice play call  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 6:44 pm : link
there on the two point conversion.
RE: RE: ......  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 6:45 pm : link
In comment 15124541 Eman11 said:
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I hope Pam Oliver is OK.

She seems a bit... tipsy.



I thought the same thing. I was hoping she wasn’t having a stroke on Natl TV and might’ve just been hitting the bottle a little bit.



What did she do?
Time for Leonard Floyd  
BelieveJJ : 1/16/2021 6:45 pm : link
to make himself some money.
Now Donald needs to get on the field, make some plays  
Stan in LA : 1/16/2021 6:46 pm : link
And save his reputation.
RE: RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
joeinpa : 1/16/2021 6:47 pm : link
In comment 15124546 BubbaMojo said:
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.



Wow, can you put the freaking schtick down for one evening and enjoy some playoff football. Pick your exhausting bloviating back up again on Monday. So annoying. Also looking forward to your normal annoying response to this with your normal jab at “Jints Central” intertwined. God life must suck being so negative all the time.


👍. There are more than a few posters who manage to integrate their narrative into every post, especially game posts

I applaud your effort to call them out.
The Packers going for 2 on their last TD was so stupid  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/16/2021 6:47 pm : link
They’d have an 8 pt lead now.
RE: RE: RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 6:50 pm : link
In comment 15124554 joeinpa said:
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.



Wow, can you put the freaking schtick down for one evening and enjoy some playoff football. Pick your exhausting bloviating back up again on Monday. So annoying. Also looking forward to your normal annoying response to this with your normal jab at “Jints Central” intertwined. God life must suck being so negative all the time.



👍. There are more than a few posters who manage to integrate their narrative into every post, especially game posts

I applaud your effort to call them out.


Thank you!!!!! And yes, there is a difference in Terps' approach and that of bw. Just enjoy the game and go back to being a Skins fan in a month.
RE: RE: RE: Rams DBs drop two straight picks.  
Eman11 : 1/16/2021 6:54 pm : link
In comment 15124524 LBH15 said:
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Easy ones really.

The mystique of Rodgers did it.

But he's been good, smart and patient.



The first one for sure was easy but the second the DB had a legit gripe. The WR grabbed and held onto his one arm before the ball got there. He would’ve had to make that pick with one hand.

They never call that on the O but they should.



Smart play by the O


Definitely. Saved the pick and knowing it won’t get called, it was a smart play.
Rams D  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 6:56 pm : link
Stepping up. Setting up for an exciting finish.
Aaron Rodgers  
cjac : 1/16/2021 6:58 pm : link
Is a c-nt
RE: Aaron Rodgers  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 7:00 pm : link
In comment 15124566 cjac said:
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Is a c-nt


I wish Aaron Rodgers was our c-nt!!
RE: RE: RE: RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
HomerJones45 : 1/16/2021 7:01 pm : link
In comment 15124559 chopperhatch said:
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.



Wow, can you put the freaking schtick down for one evening and enjoy some playoff football. Pick your exhausting bloviating back up again on Monday. So annoying. Also looking forward to your normal annoying response to this with your normal jab at “Jints Central” intertwined. God life must suck being so negative all the time.



👍. There are more than a few posters who manage to integrate their narrative into every post, especially game posts

I applaud your effort to call them out.



Thank you!!!!! And yes, there is a difference in Terps' approach and that of bw. Just enjoy the game and go back to being a Skins fan in a month.
like you two sanctimonious assholes don’t have agendas and narratives that you aren’t working all the time. Look in the mirror when you are through jerking each other off
RE: RE: Aaron Rodgers  
cjac : 1/16/2021 7:01 pm : link
In comment 15124567 BubbaMojo said:
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Is a c-nt



I wish Aaron Rodgers was our c-nt!!


Ew
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 7:03 pm : link
Lol. Strange thread.
Homer  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 7:03 pm : link
with the winning post.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2021 7:05 pm : link
This is a good broadcasting duo.
Think that was  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 7:05 pm : link
the chance Rams were needing to take advantage of. Think Rodgers takes them on a scoring drive here to bury them.
RE: RE: Aaron Rodgers  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 7:06 pm : link
In comment 15124567 BubbaMojo said:
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Is a c-nt



I wish Aaron Rodgers was our c-nt!!


You are a weirdo. The clown is looking for a c-nt now?



RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15124570 HomerJones45 said:
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.



Wow, can you put the freaking schtick down for one evening and enjoy some playoff football. Pick your exhausting bloviating back up again on Monday. So annoying. Also looking forward to your normal annoying response to this with your normal jab at “Jints Central” intertwined. God life must suck being so negative all the time.



👍. There are more than a few posters who manage to integrate their narrative into every post, especially game posts

I applaud your effort to call them out.



Thank you!!!!! And yes, there is a difference in Terps' approach and that of bw. Just enjoy the game and go back to being a Skins fan in a month.

like you two sanctimonious assholes don’t have agendas and narratives that you aren’t working all the time. Look in the mirror when you are through jerking each other off


I certainly dont but even if I did, Im not talking about the Giants on a thread that has nothing to do with them.

Btw, literally nobody cares what you have to say HandJob45.
RE: ...  
cjac : 1/16/2021 7:08 pm : link
In comment 15124576 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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This is a good broadcasting duo.


Burkhart had a great education.

Willy P in the house
Horrendous  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 7:08 pm : link
Sack for Goff to take.
Agree  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 7:09 pm : link
The broadcasting team has done a good job. Uh oh that could’ve changed the game!
Big bullet  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2021 7:10 pm : link
dodged there.

I guess I'm rooting for GB, though I have no love for either team. McVay though...I really don't like him.
RE: Agree  
jnoble : 1/16/2021 7:11 pm : link
In comment 15124585 BubbaMojo said:
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The broadcasting team has done a good job. Uh oh that could’ve changed the game!


And of course the ball rolled back right into Rogers hands lol

If that was us it wouldve rolled free back ten yards holding up a "Pick me up and score an easy TD!" sign
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2021 7:12 pm : link
I get that it's hard to win Super Bowls, but it sometimes amazes me that the Packers have had 2 HOF QBs as starters since '92 & only 2 Lombardis to show for it. You'd think between Favre & Rodgers they'd have more, but alas.
RE: ...  
cjac : 1/16/2021 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15124594 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I get that it's hard to win Super Bowls, but it sometimes amazes me that the Packers have had 2 HOF QBs as starters since '92 & only 2 Lombardis to show for it. You'd think between Favre & Rodgers they'd have more, but alas.


GB vs KC is going to be a great game
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2021 7:14 pm : link
That feels like game.
That’s game  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 7:14 pm : link
On to the night game. Should be a good one.
Don't know how  
drg613 : 1/16/2021 7:15 pm : link
a Giants fan could ever root for the Rams. No matter how much you hate Rodgers
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 7:15 pm : link
Game over. Rams defense was worthless tonight.
Oh man  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 7:16 pm : link
Close to dropping that. Rodgers reaction would’ve been priceless.
Jones never had a chance all  
bubba0825 : 1/16/2021 7:16 pm : link
Year to throw to a guy that wide open down the middle of the field
in this era  
Producer : 1/16/2021 7:16 pm : link
of football.

Great QB > Great Def
RE: Don't know how  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 7:16 pm : link
In comment 15124600 drg613 said:
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a Giants fan could ever root for the Rams. No matter how much you hate Rodgers


What's the big deal with the Rams? What's the personal connection with them?
Oh man  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 7:16 pm : link
Close to dropping that. Rodgers reaction would’ve been priceless.
RE: RE: ...  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 7:16 pm : link
In comment 15124595 cjac said:
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I get that it's hard to win Super Bowls, but it sometimes amazes me that the Packers have had 2 HOF QBs as starters since '92 & only 2 Lombardis to show for it. You'd think between Favre & Rodgers they'd have more, but alas.



GB vs KC is going to be a great game


Based on GB's defense, I think KC rolls them. Bad.

I think the only hope to beat KC is Buffalo at this point. Josh Allen's game just creates so many problems now that his accuracy issues are under control.
RE: Jones never had a chance all  
Producer : 1/16/2021 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15124604 bubba0825 said:
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Year to throw to a guy that wide open down the middle of the field


ugh.. leave Jones out of it. He can't sniff Rodgers' jock strap.
I really thought the Rams D had a chance  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/16/2021 7:17 pm : link
How wrong I was. Green Bay’s precision tonight was unreal. I underestimated their running game. Bigtime win for them and they solidify themselves as the favorite in the NFC unless one of TB/NO steamroll the other.
RE: I really thought the Rams D had a chance  
Producer : 1/16/2021 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15124611 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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How wrong I was. Green Bay’s precision tonight was unreal. I underestimated their running game. Bigtime win for them and they solidify themselves as the favorite in the NFC unless one of TB/NO steamroll the other.


you underestimated Aaron Jones - J. Williams - and Dillon?

Have you watched them the last two years?
RE: ...  
Ron Johnson : 1/16/2021 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15124594 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I get that it's hard to win Super Bowls, but it sometimes amazes me that the Packers have had 2 HOF QBs as starters since '92 & only 2 Lombardis to show for it. You'd think between Favre & Rodgers they'd have more, but alas.


Just goes to show that it’s a team game. The packers have had decent defenses but rarely one that you would elite ..... and that’s one of the necessary elements.
RE: RE: I really thought the Rams D had a chance  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/16/2021 7:19 pm : link
In comment 15124612 Producer said:
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How wrong I was. Green Bay’s precision tonight was unreal. I underestimated their running game. Bigtime win for them and they solidify themselves as the favorite in the NFC unless one of TB/NO steamroll the other.



you underestimated Aaron Jones - J. Williams - and Dillon?

Have you watched them the last two years?


I guess I overestimated the Rams run D vs. that matchup. I knew the Packs ground game was good but thought LA could do more
RE: RE: RE: I really thought the Rams D had a chance  
Producer : 1/16/2021 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15124614 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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How wrong I was. Green Bay’s precision tonight was unreal. I underestimated their running game. Bigtime win for them and they solidify themselves as the favorite in the NFC unless one of TB/NO steamroll the other.



you underestimated Aaron Jones - J. Williams - and Dillon?

Have you watched them the last two years?



I guess I overestimated the Rams run D vs. that matchup. I knew the Packs ground game was good but thought LA could do more


Packers offense is a headache, no doubt
I'm rooting hard for Buffalo tonight.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2021 7:21 pm : link
Hard.

F the Ravens. Also, I want Lamar to have a bad game so GoTerps vs. ryanmkeane go into the ring for like the 7559th time.
Rams  
Producer : 1/16/2021 7:21 pm : link
not a comeback team.
That should  
Mark from Jersey : 1/16/2021 7:21 pm : link
Do it.
RE: I'm rooting hard for Buffalo tonight.  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15124616 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Hard.

F the Ravens. Also, I want Lamar to have a bad game so GoTerps vs. ryanmkeane go into the ring for like the 7559th time.


I like your style guy....
Rams' DT A'shawn Robinson could be a cautionary  
BelieveJJ : 1/16/2021 7:23 pm : link
tale for those who opine that run stufing DTs grown on trees.

Drafted out of Bama in 2016 in the second round, pick 46 overall, he never panned out for the Lions and came to the Rams this year.

A year later the Giants drafted a similar type player (but with a much better work ethic?) to Robinson from the 'Tide, Dalvin Tomlinson, and Dalvin developed into a much better player than Robinson ever was.

There's no guarantee at all that Tomlinson will be easily replaced.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
joeinpa : 1/16/2021 7:24 pm : link
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.



Wow, can you put the freaking schtick down for one evening and enjoy some playoff football. Pick your exhausting bloviating back up again on Monday. So annoying. Also looking forward to your normal annoying response to this with your normal jab at “Jints Central” intertwined. God life must suck being so negative all the time.



👍. There are more than a few posters who manage to integrate their narrative into every post, especially game posts

I applaud your effort to call them out.



Thank you!!!!! And yes, there is a difference in Terps' approach and that of bw. Just enjoy the game and go back to being a Skins fan in a month.

like you two sanctimonious assholes don’t have agendas and narratives that you aren’t working all the time. Look in the mirror when you are through jerking each other off



I certainly dont but even if I did, Im not talking about the Giants on a thread that has nothing to do with them.

Btw, literally nobody cares what you have to say HandJob45.


Homer, I don’t think having a narrative was the point. I think it was about the need to interject it as often as they do.

I suppose I do have a narrative, that wasn’t the pt.

RE: Rams' DT A'shawn Robinson could be a cautionary  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 7:27 pm : link
In comment 15124621 BelieveJJ said:
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tale for those who opine that run stufing DTs grown on trees.

Drafted out of Bama in 2016 in the second round, pick 46 overall, he never panned out for the Lions and came to the Rams this year.

A year later the Giants drafted a similar type player (but with a much better work ethic?) to Robinson from the 'Tide, Dalvin Tomlinson, and Dalvin developed into a much better player than Robinson ever was.

There's no guarantee at all that Tomlinson will be easily replaced.


Ashawn was VERY highly regarded. I kinda liked him...he had a better combine I believe than Jarran Reed who was mentioned in the same breath as A Rob. But cautionary tale or not,I dont think we need to replace Dalvin with another run stuffing lineman. I think just another well-rounded DL will do it because our other two guys play the run plenty well.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 7:31 pm : link
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.



Wow, can you put the freaking schtick down for one evening and enjoy some playoff football. Pick your exhausting bloviating back up again on Monday. So annoying. Also looking forward to your normal annoying response to this with your normal jab at “Jints Central” intertwined. God life must suck being so negative all the time.



👍. There are more than a few posters who manage to integrate their narrative into every post, especially game posts

I applaud your effort to call them out.



Thank you!!!!! And yes, there is a difference in Terps' approach and that of bw. Just enjoy the game and go back to being a Skins fan in a month.

like you two sanctimonious assholes don’t have agendas and narratives that you aren’t working all the time. Look in the mirror when you are through jerking each other off



I certainly dont but even if I did, Im not talking about the Giants on a thread that has nothing to do with them.

Btw, literally nobody cares what you have to say HandJob45.



Homer, I don’t think having a narrative was the point. I think it was about the need to interject it as often as they do.

I suppose I do have a narrative, that wasn’t the pt.


I would applaud if what you all started simply stopped.
RE: I'm rooting hard for Buffalo tonight.  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 7:42 pm : link
In comment 15124616 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Hard.

F the Ravens. Also, I want Lamar to have a bad game so GoTerps vs. ryanmkeane go into the ring for like the 7559th time.


Then tying it to Daniel Jones
Is Pam Oliver having a stroke  
Jints in Carolina : 1/16/2021 7:44 pm : link
Or is she bombed?
once I saw how Packers  
bc4life : 1/16/2021 7:45 pm : link
were running the ball, I would have been shocked to see Rams pull it out.

Donald probably shouldn't have even suited up
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 7:47 pm : link
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.



Wow, can you put the freaking schtick down for one evening and enjoy some playoff football. Pick your exhausting bloviating back up again on Monday. So annoying. Also looking forward to your normal annoying response to this with your normal jab at “Jints Central” intertwined. God life must suck being so negative all the time.



👍. There are more than a few posters who manage to integrate their narrative into every post, especially game posts

I applaud your effort to call them out.



Thank you!!!!! And yes, there is a difference in Terps' approach and that of bw. Just enjoy the game and go back to being a Skins fan in a month.

like you two sanctimonious assholes don’t have agendas and narratives that you aren’t working all the time. Look in the mirror when you are through jerking each other off



I certainly dont but even if I did, Im not talking about the Giants on a thread that has nothing to do with them.

Btw, literally nobody cares what you have to say HandJob45.



Homer, I don’t think having a narrative was the point. I think it was about the need to interject it as often as they do.

I suppose I do have a narrative, that wasn’t the pt.




I would applaud if what you all started simply stopped.


I would applaud if you simply stopped.

Just STFU and stop bothering to get involved in shot that doesnt involve you Googs. You post a million times a day and 99% of it is vapid and tedious.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: You look at the Green Bay...  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 7:48 pm : link
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OL, and how they were selected/added, and it just adds fuel to just how poor DG has been at building ours.



Wow, can you put the freaking schtick down for one evening and enjoy some playoff football. Pick your exhausting bloviating back up again on Monday. So annoying. Also looking forward to your normal annoying response to this with your normal jab at “Jints Central” intertwined. God life must suck being so negative all the time.



👍. There are more than a few posters who manage to integrate their narrative into every post, especially game posts

I applaud your effort to call them out.



Thank you!!!!! And yes, there is a difference in Terps' approach and that of bw. Just enjoy the game and go back to being a Skins fan in a month.

like you two sanctimonious assholes don’t have agendas and narratives that you aren’t working all the time. Look in the mirror when you are through jerking each other off



I certainly dont but even if I did, Im not talking about the Giants on a thread that has nothing to do with them.

Btw, literally nobody cares what you have to say HandJob45.



Homer, I don’t think having a narrative was the point. I think it was about the need to interject it as often as they do.

I suppose I do have a narrative, that wasn’t the pt.




I would applaud if what you all started simply stopped.


Agree, this thread should be about the games and not everybody’s Giants “agenda.” Let’s hope we get a good game tonight.
RE: Is Pam Oliver having a stroke  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 7:49 pm : link
In comment 15124640 Jints in Carolina said:
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Or is she bombed?


Did she finally accept that date request from Michale Irvin? Could be an explanation.
RE: RE: Is Pam Oliver having a stroke  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 7:54 pm : link
In comment 15124647 chopperhatch said:
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Or is she bombed?



Did she finally accept that date request from Michale Irvin? Could be an explanation.


A bit vapid.
I am looking forward to tonight's...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 7:57 pm : link
match-up of the two best QBs/players from the 2018 draft.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2021 7:58 pm : link
In all seriousness, I wouldn't be shocked if Oliver-due to the cold-took a few shots of whiskey to warm herself up, no matter how unprofessional that might be. If I was standing out in the cold for hours, I'd probably do the same, Haha.
Rams are in QB hell  
Giantimistic : 1/16/2021 8:00 pm : link
You can win with a Goff at QB but not if he is eating up the salary cap like that. You cannot pay an average qb what they did.
Won't lose many games  
M.S. : 1/16/2021 8:01 pm : link
with an offensive line like Green Bay's.

Allowed practically zero pass rush and opened the way for, what, 200 rushing yards?

On a scale of 1 to 10, let's say Green Bay's offensive line is a 10.

What is the New York Giants'?

4, 5, 6?

RE: RE: RE: Is Pam Oliver having a stroke  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 8:02 pm : link
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Or is she bombed?



Did she finally accept that date request from Michale Irvin? Could be an explanation.



A bit vapid.


You tried using the word "vapid"....


RE: ...  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15124654 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In all seriousness, I wouldn't be shocked if Oliver-due to the cold-took a few shots of whiskey to warm herself up, no matter how unprofessional that might be. If I was standing out in the cold for hours, I'd probably do the same, Haha.


As a waiter? Sure. As a sideline reporter, she shpuld be fired on the spot if it was that noticeable. I honestly didnt see any of her sideline reports.
RE: Rams are in QB hell  
M.S. : 1/16/2021 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15124657 Giantimistic said:
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You can win with a Goff at QB but not if he is eating up the salary cap like that. You cannot pay an average qb what they did.

He went 21 of 27 for 174 yards and one TD. Maybe he would have put up better stats had his defense not been destroyed and humiliated all day long.
Chop- i like when you post about football. When you  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 8:05 pm : link
blast guys and do it so vehemently, you sound like a crazy drunk. Let it go with bw. It’s not a big deal.

bw  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 8:09 pm : link
Was a douche for bringing up DG in an unrelated game thread, but whatever, ready to move on and enjoy the discussion on tonight’s game. BW included if he’s so inclined!
RE: Chop- i like when you post about football. When you  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 8:12 pm : link
In comment 15124664 LBH15 said:
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blast guys and do it so vehemently, you sound like a crazy drunk. Let it go with bw. It’s not a big deal.


How bout this....I havent had a drink since the 2nd, stop being my BBI mother Googs. You post all day and offer nothing. Why dont you let this handle go and start with another one. You pile on to other people's posts and stalk other posters looking to provoke. Just dont bother.
RE: Chop- i like when you post about football. When you  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 8:13 pm : link
In comment 15124664 LBH15 said:
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blast guys and do it so vehemently, you sound like a crazy drunk. Let it go with bw. It’s not a big deal.


Btw, I never like you.
Watch yourself on being critical for entering threads  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 8:13 pm : link
with an agenda. I can show plenty of your own as we both know.

Go Bills.



RE: RE: ...  
Eman11 : 1/16/2021 8:15 pm : link
In comment 15124661 chopperhatch said:
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In all seriousness, I wouldn't be shocked if Oliver-due to the cold-took a few shots of whiskey to warm herself up, no matter how unprofessional that might be. If I was standing out in the cold for hours, I'd probably do the same, Haha.



As a waiter? Sure. As a sideline reporter, she shpuld be fired on the spot if it was that noticeable. I honestly didnt see any of her sideline reports.


Oh it was noticeable. The first time I thought what the hell and gave her a pass thinking it was the cold. The next two times I thought either the bottle or she’s having a stroke like problem.

RE: Watch yourself on being critical for entering threads  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15124673 LBH15 said:
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with an agenda. I can show plenty of your own as we both know.

Go Bills.




This I can agree with. Go Bills!
RE: Watch yourself on being critical for entering threads  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15124673 LBH15 said:
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with an agenda. I can show plenty of your own as we both know.

Go Bills.




I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about...at all, but I truly hope you don't eat something this weekend that u have a severe allergy to. And I mean that dickhead.
RE: RE: Chop- i like when you post about football. When you  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15124672 chopperhatch said:
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blast guys and do it so vehemently, you sound like a crazy drunk. Let it go with bw. It’s not a big deal.




Btw, I never like you.


Apologies as I can tell I hit it too close to home with my comment.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 8:18 pm : link
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In all seriousness, I wouldn't be shocked if Oliver-due to the cold-took a few shots of whiskey to warm herself up, no matter how unprofessional that might be. If I was standing out in the cold for hours, I'd probably do the same, Haha.



As a waiter? Sure. As a sideline reporter, she shpuld be fired on the spot if it was that noticeable. I honestly didnt see any of her sideline reports.



Oh it was noticeable. The first time I thought what the hell and gave her a pass thinking it was the cold. The next two times I thought either the bottle or she’s having a stroke like problem.


Yea, I saw it. Holy SHIT! She was banged up for sure!
I think I may have had tee many martoonis - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Watch yourself on being critical for entering threads  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15124677 chopperhatch said:
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with an agenda. I can show plenty of your own as we both know.

Go Bills.






I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about...at all, but I truly hope you don't eat something this weekend that u have a severe allergy to. And I mean that dickhead.


That wasn’t to you. It was to the bubba guy.

Are u ok?
Greg Roman  
cjac : 1/16/2021 8:20 pm : link
He needs someone to pick his wardrobe for him.

He’s not a spandex top guy
Such a hard offense  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 8:20 pm : link
To defend against with Lamar in there.
Great play  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 8:24 pm : link
By Bills defender to keep Jackson corralled there.
Thats a bad sack.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 8:25 pm : link
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Costly sack...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 8:25 pm : link
Nice call by Frazier.
RE: Thats a bad sack.  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15124684 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Good call, earlier btw, on the Bills LBs being soft on the run...
Jinx  
Mike in NY : 1/16/2021 8:26 pm : link
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Doink  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 8:26 pm : link
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Michaels jinxed him.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2021 8:27 pm : link
Didn't Tucker miss kick last weekend? Weird. He is usually automatic.
Michaels must  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 8:28 pm : link
be on Bills tonight too.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 8:30 pm : link
Buffalo gets a break with that sack and missed FG.
RE: RE: Thats a bad sack.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 8:30 pm : link
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Good call, earlier btw, on the Bills LBs being soft on the run...


They aren’t as bad against run as they look. Not good no doubt, but a large part of that is scheme. Should be interesting how they attack a team like Ravens.
Anybody in  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 8:35 pm : link
the market for a Toyota Sienna?
They aren't gonna call the obvious hold  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 8:50 pm : link
:
Greta job containing Jackson again  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 8:51 pm : link
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Is Edmunds really going to pro bowl?  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 8:52 pm : link
Guess Evan Engram isn’t the only one out there fooling people. They should start a club.
RE: RE: Watch yourself on being critical for entering threads  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 8:52 pm : link
In comment 15124677 chopperhatch said:
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with an agenda. I can show plenty of your own as we both know.

Go Bills.






I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about...at all, but I truly hope you don't eat something this weekend that u have a severe allergy to. And I mean that dickhead.


🤣🤣🤣
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 8:53 pm : link
Wow. Josh Allen missed that one.
Had him  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 8:53 pm : link
Bad throw!
That was an awful throw by Allen  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 8:54 pm : link
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Al def has Ravens tonight.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 8:58 pm : link
.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 9:00 pm : link
Not even close
Wide right  
cjac : 1/16/2021 9:00 pm : link
:)
Over is dead.  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 9:00 pm : link
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The Bills look like  
cjac : 1/16/2021 9:01 pm : link
The Warren Moon Oilers. Are they going to even attempt a run at some point?
Might just want to start going for it over 35 yards  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:01 pm : link
!
RE: Over is dead.  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:03 pm : link
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I wouldn’t say that yet. Bills have some explosive plays in them, not sure the Ravens do unfortunately. Allen has strong arm but he’s gotta do better job adjusting to wind on those intermediate and long balls. Hit or miss so far.
I  
AcidTest : 1/16/2021 9:04 pm : link
don't think that was roughing the passer.
RE: RE: Over is dead.  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 9:04 pm : link
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I wouldn’t say that yet. Bills have some explosive plays in them, not sure the Ravens do unfortunately. Allen has strong arm but he’s gotta do better job adjusting to wind on those intermediate and long balls. Hit or miss so far.


Hope you are right!
"That's an MVP play"  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 9:05 pm : link
Lol
Incredible save there...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 9:05 pm : link
by LJax.
Great  
AcidTest : 1/16/2021 9:07 pm : link
play by Jackson to prevent a huge loss.
Wow the Bills defense  
cjac : 1/16/2021 9:07 pm : link
Is really good
Wow.  
AcidTest : 1/16/2021 9:07 pm : link
Tucker hits two uprights.
Wow!  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 9:08 pm : link
2 doinks!
Tucker.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/16/2021 9:08 pm : link
UFB.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 9:08 pm : link
Hahaha. Fucking idiot Baltimore. Two field goal misses. Love it. Wish both of these two useless teams could lose.
Tucker needs  
cjac : 1/16/2021 9:08 pm : link
A crossbar doink for the hat trick
That seemed a bit dep  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 9:09 pm : link
No?
Tough conditions...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 9:09 pm : link
4 FG attempts and only 1 converted.
I mean deep  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 9:10 pm : link
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What did I say! These coaches should start going for it  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:10 pm : link
The wind here is too unpredictable, everyone on field is struggling with it. I think this benefits Ravens much more considering they just want to attack middle of field and Bills literally don’t run the ball. Bills built a team that doesn’t have a home field advantage in Buffalo.
RE: That seemed a bit dep  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15124744 LBH15 said:
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46 yards. Well within his range but maybe the wind is a bigger factor? Tucker is going to be hard to trust the rest of the game on longer ones. Interesting to see how coaches change their strategy after three misses.
Buffalo is gonna break a record  
cjac : 1/16/2021 9:13 pm : link
For pass attempts in a row.
Allen  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 9:14 pm : link
Has to start connecting on some of these intermediate-long throws. Seems like all of them are open.
Bills..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 9:17 pm : link
should at least have a couple of runs to keep the D honest.

Allen is either throwing 20 yards downfield or scrambling and going to the outlet on the sidelines. He may end up hitting one, but he's missing badly.
RE: Allen  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:17 pm : link
In comment 15124753 BubbaMojo said:
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Has to start connecting on some of these intermediate-long throws. Seems like all of them are open.


This is why I’m not sure some people here watch other teams around the league. All QBs miss throws, but our guy needs to be almost damn perfect to put up points and than we nit pick. Bills are still capable of putting up 30 if Allen starts to get hot. It’s certainly there.
"The Ravens don't do well in pure passing plays"  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 9:19 pm : link
Of course they don't...
RE: Bills..  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:19 pm : link
In comment 15124757 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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should at least have a couple of runs to keep the D honest.

Allen is either throwing 20 yards downfield or scrambling and going to the outlet on the sidelines. He may end up hitting one, but he's missing badly.


Honestly I’d stick with what they are doing. They are going to connect here in a bunch soon. Blink and 20 pts up on board Chiefs style.
Wow 3 penalties in a row  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 9:21 pm : link
These 6,700 fans are going nuts!
Watch  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 9:21 pm : link
Jackson rip off a 99 yarder here.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 9:21 pm : link
Don't worry. Lamar will solve the puzzle and throw for 618 yards in the second half.
RE: RE: Bills..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 9:22 pm : link
In comment 15124761 Zeke's Alibi said:
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should at least have a couple of runs to keep the D honest.

Allen is either throwing 20 yards downfield or scrambling and going to the outlet on the sidelines. He may end up hitting one, but he's missing badly.



Honestly I’d stick with what they are doing. They are going to connect here in a bunch soon. Blink and 20 pts up on board Chiefs style.


Except Allen is airmailing everything. He's probably closer to throwing a deep pick to a safety than connecting on a TD.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 9:22 pm : link
Hahahahha. Buffalo's defense gives up a 3rd & 18!
Huuuuuge  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 9:22 pm : link
Conversion
Buffalo  
giantBCP : 1/16/2021 9:23 pm : link
Is consistently lined up in the neutral zone.
Tucker the all pro  
90.Cal : 1/16/2021 9:23 pm : link
What bullshit
RE: RE: RE: Bills..  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:25 pm : link
In comment 15124765 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Except Allen is airmailing everything. He's probably closer to throwing a deep pick to a safety than connecting on a TD.


I stick with the girl that brought me to dance than all of a sudden try to become a running football team against one of the most physical defenses in league that just shut down Henry.
Spoiler alert  
cjac : 1/16/2021 9:26 pm : link
Buffalo is gonna pass
Lamar can’t read and pass  
NJBlueTuna : 1/16/2021 9:27 pm : link
He is great scrambling for yards but he seems incapable of reading the field in the pocket.
It’s not easy to throw or kick it dep against the wind  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 9:32 pm : link
in that stadium tonight.
RE: Lamar can’t read and pass  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:32 pm : link
In comment 15124775 NJBlueTuna said:
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He is great scrambling for yards but he seems incapable of reading the field in the pocket.


The crazy part is that to me is the biggest question about him being a SB winning QB, but if Chiefs win tomorrow, there’s a chance he won’t have to answer that question unless Bucs/Saints make SB. Chiefs are super soft against run to, but they may need to go one dimensional to catch up. This Ravens D really ringing bell and Maryindale namely. He should certainly be in talks for HC job, but he’s an old white defensive guy so he wont.
I mean deep against the wind  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 9:33 pm : link
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Cjac  
oghwga : 1/16/2021 9:33 pm : link
Wasn't this usually your night to host?

Usually snowing iirc.

Hope all is well. Miss those days.
RE: Lamar can’t read and pass  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 9:35 pm : link
In comment 15124775 NJBlueTuna said:
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He is great scrambling for yards but he seems incapable of reading the field in the pocket.


Incapable?

Well, he's not Peyton Manning, but he can read a defense. His problem is mechanics and delivery. And I think in these elements, he doesn't throw a ball that can cut through the wind (when he's into it).
Josh Allen looks like shit tonight...  
EricJ : 1/16/2021 9:36 pm : link
...
Very well done with clock management  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:42 pm : link
Harbaugh one of the best in game.
Tucker can't miss THIS one  
santacruzom : 1/16/2021 9:42 pm : link
Can he?
Get Tucker  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 9:44 pm : link
some confidence back here.
RE: Josh Allen looks like shit tonight...  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15124786 EricJ said:
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So does Jackson
RE: Get Tucker  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15124795 BubbaMojo said:
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some confidence back here.


Barely made it.

Oh, well. Tie game.
There is going to be a crazy high pressure kick  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:46 pm : link
in 4th quarter. Ghost of Norwood.
RE: Josh Allen looks like shit tonight...  
PatersonPlank : 1/16/2021 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15124786 EricJ said:
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Really inaccurate.
Both QBs struggling  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 9:48 pm : link
But think it’s more because of the weather. Did anyone else notice on the Ravens timeout someone ran out to throw a jacket on Jackson? On one minute timeout? Maybe it’s just habit from the kid with the job, but not sure if the weather is really getting to Jackson or not.
RE: RE: Josh Allen looks like shit tonight...  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 9:48 pm : link
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So does Jackson


Tough to throw anything dep tonight.
Buffalo..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 9:49 pm : link
has two rushes at half. The fewest ever attempts in a playoff game
Not impressed with Daboll’s gameplan  
Sammo85 : 1/16/2021 9:53 pm : link
I think the lack of run is overreaction to how Baltimore shut down Henry last week but that was also a ridiculously poorly called first half.
Allen did have a dropped TD pass...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 9:54 pm : link
by Davis.
Wind is obviously a huge factor  
JohnG in Albany : 1/16/2021 9:55 pm : link
On that field goal at the end of the half it looked like the uprights were moving more than the flags at the top of them.
RE: Josh Allen looks like shit tonight...  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 9:55 pm : link
In comment 15124786 EricJ said:
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Yes, he does.
agreed terrible gameplan  
gtt350 : 1/16/2021 9:55 pm : link
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People are going to Monday morning QB bills  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:55 pm : link
not running, but if they think they can protect Allen enough, why run the ball? The run game isn’t good and it’s a strength of Ravens D. No reason for them to run it. They aren’t scoring points because of a drop in end zone , missed figs, and Allen struggling with wind. Generally QBs get that ironed out at halftime once they get a feel. It’s windy, but it’s not a hurricane.
RE: People are going to Monday morning QB bills  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 9:57 pm : link
In comment 15124813 Zeke's Alibi said:
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not running, but if they think they can protect Allen enough, why run the ball? The run game isn’t good and it’s a strength of Ravens D. No reason for them to run it. They aren’t scoring points because of a drop in end zone , missed figs, and Allen struggling with wind. Generally QBs get that ironed out at halftime once they get a feel. It’s windy, but it’s not a hurricane.


Even with that's it's what 10-3? They need to make some adjustments.
RE: RE: Lamar can’t read and pass  
NJBlueTuna : 1/16/2021 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15124785 bw in dc said:
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He is great scrambling for yards but he seems incapable of reading the field in the pocket.



Incapable?

Well, he's not Peyton Manning, but he can read a defense. His problem is mechanics and delivery. And I think in these elements, he doesn't throw a ball that can cut through the wind (when he's into it).


Disagree. But he won MVP so know I have a minority position but feel league caught up with him and will allow him his rushing yards knowing he can’t read or throw against coverages
I really don’t understand people wanting them to run the ball  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:58 pm : link
Their run game isn’t good and it’s unnecessary for balance reasons. They are protecting him fine considering you just have to do enough so he can beat guys 1 v 1. As a Bills SB ticket holder I want them to continue with gameplan. Allen has to adjust though. No excuses now, got a half under your belt out there. Like I said, windy, but not a hurricane.
The worst..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 9:59 pm : link
thing a team can become is one-dimensional because it allows the D to attack you that much easier. Right now, Baltimore is able to double cover the deep routes.

Buffalo doesn't have to pound the ball - but in windy conditions, to not even run the ball every once in awhile is criminal.

I think you'll see some more runs in the 2nd half, even if just to open up downfield a little more. Buffalo will certainly be 2nd guessed if Allen overthrows another WR and gets picked. It isn't like he's missed high once or twice. It is nearly every throw
RE: RE: People are going to Monday morning QB bills  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 9:59 pm : link
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not running, but if they think they can protect Allen enough, why run the ball? The run game isn’t good and it’s a strength of Ravens D. No reason for them to run it. They aren’t scoring points because of a drop in end zone , missed figs, and Allen struggling with wind. Generally QBs get that ironed out at halftime once they get a feel. It’s windy, but it’s not a hurricane.



Even with that's it's what 10-3? They need to make some adjustments.


What adjustments can they make? Run the ball for minimal gains? Plays are there, players need to go make them.
RE: The worst..  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15124820 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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thing a team can become is one-dimensional because it allows the D to attack you that much easier. Right now, Baltimore is able to double cover the deep routes.

Buffalo doesn't have to pound the ball - but in windy conditions, to not even run the ball every once in awhile is criminal.

I think you'll see some more runs in the 2nd half, even if just to open up downfield a little more. Buffalo will certainly be 2nd guessed if Allen overthrows another WR and gets picked. It isn't like he's missed high once or twice. It is nearly every throw


The Ravens aren’t bringing another safety to stop the run, they don’t have to. Only reason to run ball is if pass rush becomes too much.
RE: Lamar can’t read and pass  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:01 pm : link
In comment 15124775 NJBlueTuna said:
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He is great scrambling for yards but he seems incapable of reading the field in the pocket.


He never could
Looks..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:02 pm : link
like McDermott is making an adjustment
RE: RE: People are going to Monday morning QB bills  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 10:02 pm : link
In comment 15124817 Saquads26 said:
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not running, but if they think they can protect Allen enough, why run the ball? The run game isn’t good and it’s a strength of Ravens D. No reason for them to run it. They aren’t scoring points because of a drop in end zone , missed figs, and Allen struggling with wind. Generally QBs get that ironed out at halftime once they get a feel. It’s windy, but it’s not a hurricane.



Even with that's it's what 10-3? They need to make some adjustments.


6-3. Adjust and try something less dep.
Nice play right there  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:03 pm : link
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Just the threat..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:03 pm : link
of the run got the 1st down there
RE: Looks..  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 10:04 pm : link
In comment 15124827 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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like McDermott is making an adjustment


We’ll see. It’s two plays , I could have told you first play out of half is gonna be run.
What's...  
JohnG in Albany : 1/16/2021 10:04 pm : link
the point of play action there? *grin*
RE: RE: Looks..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:05 pm : link
In comment 15124831 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 15124827 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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like McDermott is making an adjustment



We’ll see. It’s two plays , I could have told you first play out of half is gonna be run.


But that's all they need. Just threaten to run
And..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:05 pm : link
look - this is an excellent drive
Nice run!!  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:05 pm : link
Gotta score a TD here
RE: RE: RE: People are going to Monday morning QB bills  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 10:05 pm : link
In comment 15124828 LBH15 said:
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In comment 15124817 Saquads26 said:


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In comment 15124813 Zeke's Alibi said:


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not running, but if they think they can protect Allen enough, why run the ball? The run game isn’t good and it’s a strength of Ravens D. No reason for them to run it. They aren’t scoring points because of a drop in end zone , missed figs, and Allen struggling with wind. Generally QBs get that ironed out at halftime once they get a feel. It’s windy, but it’s not a hurricane.



Even with that's it's what 10-3? They need to make some adjustments.



6-3. Adjust and try something less dep.


Yep use Diggs and get Beasley more involved to attack the intermediate and short routes.
Allen should run a QB draw here  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:08 pm : link
...
Or that!!  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:09 pm : link
TD BILLS!!!'
Now that..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:10 pm : link
was an adjustment to the conditions. No deep misses. A few runs. Intermediate outs.
RE: Or that!!  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 10:11 pm : link
In comment 15124839 Saquads26 said:
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TD BILLS!!!'


Adjusting play calls, and not looking to throw it dep all the time worked well.
Jackson is such a gamer, line lets him down. Get the 1st..  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 10:17 pm : link
...
Bills can't allow that  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:18 pm : link
Jackson can't throw past 5 yards and they let him run for the first. He can't throw to save his life
Oops  
JohnG in Albany : 1/16/2021 10:23 pm : link
.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA LAMAR IS SUCH TRASH  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:23 pm : link
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAJANAJAH
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 10:23 pm : link
LOL. Stupid ass Lamar.
Game  
Sean : 1/16/2021 10:24 pm : link
.
Ouch  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 10:24 pm : link
.
Enormous mistake....  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:24 pm : link
About as bad a play in a critical game as it gets.
That definitely takes Balt  
Ron Johnson : 1/16/2021 10:25 pm : link
Out of the run game
Wow.  
AcidTest : 1/16/2021 10:25 pm : link
That's probably the game. Lamar never saw Johnson undercut the receiver. Terrible mistake. Two missed field goals and a 101 yard INT return for a TD make it hard to win.
They had..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:25 pm : link
Brown the play before and couldn't protect long enough.

Looked like a sequence we've been all too familiar with
Where you at Go Terps?  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:25 pm : link
Still the best pick in that draft? LOL
Unlucky for Lamar, his oline is taking the night off...  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 10:25 pm : link
Would like to see a few screens to slow down the Bills pass rush.
I would love to be  
cjac : 1/16/2021 10:26 pm : link
A fly on the wall in the film room breaking down that pass

What did he see?
Oh boyyyyyy  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 10:26 pm : link
Not the best optics.

Response: "yea but has Jones ever been in a position to throw a red zone pick six in the playoffs?"

And then, ::crickets::
RE: Where you at Go Terps?  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:26 pm : link
In comment 15124856 Saquads26 said:
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Still the best pick in that draft? LOL


C'mon man
RE: Where you at Go Terps?  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 10:26 pm : link
In comment 15124856 Saquads26 said:
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Still the best pick in that draft? LOL


Not cool.
RE: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA LAMAR IS SUCH TRASH  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 10:27 pm : link
In comment 15124848 Saquads26 said:
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAJANAJAH


Lamar didn’t throw it dep enough. And those usually get picked.
Like has been said  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:27 pm : link
He simply can't read a defense or make throws when he needs to. It's been shown in the playoffs the last 3 years
Lamar isn't a SB winning QB  
Kev in Cali : 1/16/2021 10:27 pm : link
He's on SB winning team....if he gets that far : )
Oh, Lamar  
speedywheels : 1/16/2021 10:27 pm : link
Playoff form shows up at the wrong time.

Bummer....
RE: That definitely takes Balt  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15124853 Ron Johnson said:
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Out of the run game


It's right on edge...But I think they can.
RE: RE: Where you at Go Terps?  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15124861 BubbaMojo said:
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In comment 15124856 Saquads26 said:


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Still the best pick in that draft? LOL



Not cool.


Not cool? He's crickets when Lamar chokes. And bashes Jones ever time he struggles. If he can't take it he shouldn't dish it. I'm enjoying this
RE: I would love to be  
Eman11 : 1/16/2021 10:29 pm : link
In comment 15124858 cjac said:
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A fly on the wall in the film room breaking down that pass

What did he see?


More like what he didn’t see and why?
This is a disaster for Lamar  
Anakim : 1/16/2021 10:30 pm : link
.
RE: Like has been said  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 10:30 pm : link
In comment 15124863 Saquads26 said:
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He simply can't read a defense or make throws when he needs to. It's been shown in the playoffs the last 3 years


He read the defense well, all right.

He threw it right to them.

Safety?
RE: Lamar can’t read and pass  
NJBlueTuna : 1/16/2021 10:30 pm : link
In comment 15124775 NJBlueTuna said:
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He is great scrambling for yards but he seems incapable of reading the field in the pocket.


Case closed
LJ's oline stayed home tonight... Cant block or snap lol.  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 10:30 pm : link
..
RE: Lamar isn't a SB winning QB  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:30 pm : link
In comment 15124864 Kev in Cali said:
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He's on SB winning team....if he gets that far : )


Nope he will NEVER win it all. Hope he's ok though.
Going south  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 10:31 pm : link
very quickly for Baltimore.
RE: Like has been said  
allstarjim : 1/16/2021 10:31 pm : link
In comment 15124863 Saquads26 said:
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He simply can't read a defense or make throws when he needs to. It's been shown in the playoffs the last 3 years


I've been consistent on this since he was a prospect coming out of Louisville.
Eat it Baltimore!  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/16/2021 10:31 pm : link
Love it
That's a Safety  
montanagiant : 1/16/2021 10:31 pm : link
.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 10:31 pm : link
Douchey deliberately monochrome Apple ad. Barf.
RE: LJ's oline stayed home tonight... Cant block or snap lol.  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:31 pm : link
In comment 15124873 The Truth said:
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But good QBs improvise!! And throw guys open!! I heard it here...
Shades of Pouncey in Pittsburgh...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:32 pm : link
last week.
RE: RE: Like has been said  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:32 pm : link
In comment 15124871 Route 9 said:
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In comment 15124863 Saquads26 said:


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He simply can't read a defense or make throws when he needs to. It's been shown in the playoffs the last 3 years



He read the defense well, all right.

He threw it right to them.

Safety?


I think he was at the 2. They might prefer a safety!
He threw it 2 yards shy of the goal line  
montanagiant : 1/16/2021 10:32 pm : link
Good call by the Refs
RE: RE: Like has been said  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:32 pm : link
In comment 15124876 allstarjim said:
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In comment 15124863 Saquads26 said:


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He simply can't read a defense or make throws when he needs to. It's been shown in the playoffs the last 3 years



I've been consistent on this since he was a prospect coming out of Louisville.


Yep he beats up on crappy teams in the regular season and people think he's great 🤣
Baltimore's offense is all built around getting Lamar rushing  
PatersonPlank : 1/16/2021 10:32 pm : link
and supplementing that with Dobbins/Edwards. You stop their run by committing people, make Jackson stay in the pocket with a shadow, and suddenly they look pedestrian. Their passing attack will not beat you.

NFL defenses can shut any one thing down, in this case the run. Offenses need to be able to adapt and beat you in other ways.
It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
Go Terps : 1/16/2021 10:33 pm : link
Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.
RE: He threw it 2 yards shy of the goal line  
bubba0825 : 1/16/2021 10:33 pm : link
In comment 15124884 montanagiant said:
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Good call by the Refs


I thought he was in the endzone
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 10:33 pm : link
3rd and 33.

Eli Apple on the field?
After they gave that roughing the passer to Allen...  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 10:34 pm : link
Nothing for that hit on Lamar is surprising..
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 10:34 pm : link
Imagine if he ran it 98 yards for a touchdown?
With Lamar out they may have a chance to come back  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:34 pm : link
...
I’m no doctor  
cjac : 1/16/2021 10:35 pm : link
But it looks like Lamar has a bruised ego
RE: After they gave that roughing the passer to Allen...  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:35 pm : link
In comment 15124891 The Truth said:
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Nothing for that hit on Lamar is surprising..


Lol they weren't even comparable
RE: Like has been said  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 10:35 pm : link
In comment 15124863 Saquads26 said:
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He simply can't read a defense or make throws when he needs to. It's been shown in the playoffs the last 3 years


He does struggle with reading a defense. So does our QB. Maybe one day they will both learn.
RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:35 pm : link
In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.


Dupes all over the place right now - and some really annoying ones.
Both QBs playing like shit tonight...  
EricJ : 1/16/2021 10:35 pm : link
... let's all remember this day.
RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 10:35 pm : link
In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.


Dep?
RE: After they gave that roughing the passer to Allen...  
eric2425ny : 1/16/2021 10:35 pm : link
In comment 15124891 The Truth said:
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Nothing for that hit on Lamar is surprising..


He hit his head on the ground falling back after a routine hit. The Bills player didn’t cheap shot him or drive his head into the ground. That’s why there was no penalty.
RE: With Lamar out they may have a chance to come back  
santacruzom : 1/16/2021 10:36 pm : link
In comment 15124894 Saquads26 said:
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...


I don't know why you hate the guy so much, but my guess is it's just because you're an asshole.
RE: RE: Lamar isn't a SB winning QB  
LBH15 : 1/16/2021 10:36 pm : link
In comment 15124874 Saquads26 said:
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In comment 15124864 Kev in Cali said:


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He's on SB winning team....if he gets that far : )



Nope he will NEVER win it all. Hope he's ok though.


That snap went dep over Lamar’s head. Not his fault at all.
RE: After they gave that roughing the passer to Allen...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:36 pm : link
In comment 15124891 The Truth said:
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Nothing for that hit on Lamar is surprising..


Still haven't seen it. Was it roughing?

You could argue he's a runner at the point...??
RE: I’m no doctor  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:36 pm : link
In comment 15124895 cjac said:
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But it looks like Lamar has a bruised ego


Lol
RE: I’m no doctor  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:36 pm : link
In comment 15124895 cjac said:
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But it looks like Lamar has a bruised ego


Fitting in Buffalo. It used to be JimKellyitis
Looks like...  
JohnG in Albany : 1/16/2021 10:36 pm : link
the back Jackson's head took a pretty good bounce on the turf. That's often the quickest way to a concussion.

That would suck.
I think it’s awesome that  
ryanmkeane : 1/16/2021 10:36 pm : link
Ravens have been able to tailor the offense to Jackson. That being said, I think there’s plenty of evidence at this point to suggest that it has a low likelihood of working in the playoffs. Unless you are playing in a snow storm or sub degree weather you simply have to be able to throw the ball down the field, or even 20-30 yards accurately. He can’t do it yet. Not saying he won’t be able to....but everyone celebrating last week because he won a playoff game (in which he didn’t really even need to throw the ball much, or with any success) needs to relax a bit.

Great player, great athlete. Just not sure he’s a championship QB.
Giving Lamar franchise QB money  
WillVAB : 1/16/2021 10:37 pm : link
Would be a disaster.
.  
Banks : 1/16/2021 10:37 pm : link
I've always hated Baltimore so this has been a fun game. F them
RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
santacruzom : 1/16/2021 10:37 pm : link
In comment 15124900 BubbaMojo said:
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In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:


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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



Dep?


He's more like a guy who was bitten by a radioactive Dep and now has the antagonistic powers of 10 ordinary men.
Er,  
JohnG in Albany : 1/16/2021 10:37 pm : link
back of Jackson's head.
RE: Giving Lamar franchise QB money  
eric2425ny : 1/16/2021 10:37 pm : link
In comment 15124910 WillVAB said:
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Would be a disaster.


Yup, I said this on a different post earlier. His style of play at QB leads to injuries.
RE: RE: After they gave that roughing the passer to Allen...  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:37 pm : link
In comment 15124904 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15124891 The Truth said:


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Nothing for that hit on Lamar is surprising..



Still haven't seen it. Was it roughing?

You could argue he's a runner at the point...??


The guy shoved him 3 seconds after he let go of the ball. Allen acted but he had no business putting his hands on him. By rule it was called correctly.
Bills offense play calling drives me nuts  
PatersonPlank : 1/16/2021 10:37 pm : link
4th qtr, ahead by 14, and they still don't run
RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
allstarjim : 1/16/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.


I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.
RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
Go Terps : 1/16/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15124900 BubbaMojo said:
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In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:


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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



Dep?


Holy shit that's it. Thanks. I am in your debt.
RE: RE: Giving Lamar franchise QB money  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15124915 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 15124910 WillVAB said:


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Would be a disaster.



Yup, I said this on a different post earlier. His style of play at QB leads to injuries.


And going 1-3 in the playoffs
The  
AcidTest : 1/16/2021 10:39 pm : link
Baltimore OL has not been able to pass block the whole night. That was almost a safety. I wonder if Jackson has a concussion after that last hit.
RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
PatersonPlank : 1/16/2021 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15124898 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:


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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



Dupes all over the place right now - and some really annoying ones.


It seems like there are numerous new dupes rolling out on a monthly basis
RE: RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15124919 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15124900 BubbaMojo said:


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In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:


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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



Dep?



Holy shit that's it. Thanks. I am in your debt.


HAHAHAHA you are full blown crazy. No comment on Lamar tonight? Pathetic choke artist that will never be anything more than a RB. 🤣🤣
Maybe tomorrow  
cjac : 1/16/2021 10:40 pm : link
We can have 2 threads

A playoff game thread

And a bicker thread
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 10:40 pm : link
Dep is back?

Why?
RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
Jim from Katonah : 1/16/2021 10:40 pm : link
In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.


Bizarre and half amusing, don’t let it bother you dude.
RE: The  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 10:41 pm : link
In comment 15124921 AcidTest said:
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Baltimore OL has not been able to pass block the whole night. That was almost a safety. I wonder if Jackson has a concussion after that last hit.


Yea, the oline stayed home. Multiple bad snaps and pressure through the middle. Lamar had no chance tonight.
RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 10:41 pm : link
In comment 15124898 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:


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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



Dupes all over the place right now - and some really annoying ones.


Yeah after Bradberry Glue, Saquads is the slowest and most repetitive of the dupes.
RE: RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
BubbaMojo : 1/16/2021 10:42 pm : link
In comment 15124919 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15124900 BubbaMojo said:


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In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:


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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



Dep?



Holy shit that's it. Thanks. I am in your debt.


Easy way to verify. Say something bad about Eli and see how he reacts.
Buffalo smells blood here  
PatersonPlank : 1/16/2021 10:42 pm : link
This could be the end
Wait...  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 10:43 pm : link
Is he the guy who had 14 kids, threw huge yard parties with had live bands, and beat up his guests for making fun of his criminal son?
Huge stop there..  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:44 pm : link
by BMore.
RE: RE: The  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:44 pm : link
In comment 15124927 The Truth said:
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In comment 15124921 AcidTest said:


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Baltimore OL has not been able to pass block the whole night. That was almost a safety. I wonder if Jackson has a concussion after that last hit.



Yea, the oline stayed home. Multiple bad snaps and pressure through the middle. Lamar had no chance tonight.


Lamar had a chance to tie the game and threw a pick 6. End of discussion
RE: Wait...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 10:45 pm : link
In comment 15124932 Route 9 said:
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Is he the guy who had 14 kids, threw huge yard parties with had live bands, and beat up his guests for making fun of his criminal son?


No. That was one of the simo dupes.
If Lamar comes back in...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:45 pm : link
technically they can still stick with the run only down two scores.
RE: RE: RE: The  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 10:45 pm : link
In comment 15124936 Saquads26 said:
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In comment 15124927 The Truth said:


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In comment 15124921 AcidTest said:


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Baltimore OL has not been able to pass block the whole night. That was almost a safety. I wonder if Jackson has a concussion after that last hit.



Yea, the oline stayed home. Multiple bad snaps and pressure through the middle. Lamar had no chance tonight.



Lamar had a chance to tie the game and threw a pick 6. End of discussion


shh
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 10:46 pm : link
Yeah. LOL.

Why the need to tell us any of that? Some waste of time thread telling us about his big family.
Yikes, looked like Sudfeld threw that lol.  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 10:47 pm : link
..
Wow...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:48 pm : link
Jackson did hit his head hard.
RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 10:48 pm : link
In comment 15124900 BubbaMojo said:
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In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:


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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



Dep?


Hundo percent dep...just by the posting frequency alone....good call.
This game felt like it was anyone’s until that pick 6  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 10:49 pm : link
How do you throw a pick 6 to middle of end zone? I’ve never seen that since Ed Reed hung em up.
Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
eric2425ny : 1/16/2021 10:49 pm : link
Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.
.  
Go Terps : 1/16/2021 10:49 pm : link
I wonder if he realizes that Jackson throwing that pick doesn't make Daniel Jones a good quarterback. Probably not...dep was a REALLY stupid, shitty poster.
RE: RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15124943 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 15124900 BubbaMojo said:


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In comment 15124887 Go Terps said:


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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



Dep?



Hundo percent dep...just by the posting frequency alone....good call.


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah Saquads is likely Dep  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 10:50 pm : link
Same blind, White Knight posting style with zero substance.
Tough last thirty minutes...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:50 pm : link
for Lamar.
Yo, compared to Lamar Jackson  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 10:51 pm : link
Eli Manning is geigh...not nearly as masculine as Malar...I mean Lamar.
This guy throws just like Lamar!!!!  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:51 pm : link
🤣
What a miss...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:51 pm : link
Holy mother of God...
RE: Yeah Saquads is likely Dep  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:51 pm : link
In comment 15124949 Mike from Ohio said:
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Same blind, White Knight posting style with zero substance.


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
.  
Banks : 1/16/2021 10:52 pm : link
there goes their only chance
I never understand how corners bite on double moves in that situation  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 10:52 pm : link
If I was coach it would be automatic bench. Doesn’t get much worse and selfish than that.
RE: RE: RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
chopperhatch : 1/16/2021 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15124948 Saquads26 said:
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In comment 15124943 chopperhatch said:


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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



Dep?



Hundo percent dep...just by the posting frequency alone....good call.



🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


I know right!!!!

::eye roll::
No Superman tonight  
ghost718 : 1/16/2021 10:53 pm : link
We'll have to settle for this guy

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stevemc : 1/16/2021 10:53 pm : link
Until that play, I literally forgot dez Bryant played for the Ravens.
RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:53 pm : link
In comment 15124946 eric2425ny said:
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.


Different eras, but LJax is more accurate than Cunningham.

And Cunningham, while a good runner, isn't in the same stratoshere as a runner...
I won’t be convinced dep is back  
bceagle05 : 1/16/2021 10:54 pm : link
until he starts killing Coach Thibs on the Knicks threads. No way he’d be able to hold back.
RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
WillVAB : 1/16/2021 10:55 pm : link
In comment 15124946 eric2425ny said:
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.


Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.
Interesting point...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:55 pm : link
by Collinsworth about the wind.
RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
speedywheels : 1/16/2021 10:56 pm : link
In comment 15124918 allstarjim said:
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.


Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.

Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.

Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...
What’s interesting is that both Allen & Jackson..  
Sean : 1/16/2021 10:56 pm : link
Very well may get huge contract extensions this summer. After the third season for a QB seems to be the time it gets done.
Coach  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 10:56 pm : link
Cunningham had Reid during his SB run too. I bet LJ would be a lot better with him.
RE: I won’t be convinced dep is back  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:56 pm : link
In comment 15124962 bceagle05 said:
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until he starts killing Coach Thibs on the Knicks threads. No way he’d be able to hold back.


Not a Knicks fan if that helps
RE: What’s interesting is that both Allen & Jackson..  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15124967 Sean said:
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Very well may get huge contract extensions this summer. After the third season for a QB seems to be the time it gets done.


If Baltimore extends Jackson they will eject win a Super Bowl with him. After the last 3 years he's proven he's a TERRIBLE QB.
RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 10:58 pm : link
In comment 15124964 WillVAB said:
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.



Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.


You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.
Anyone judging either QB on tonight's performance is.. eh  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 10:58 pm : link
Both of these guys are proven studs and they both look terrible tonight.. bc of the wind. Most of Allen's yards and the TD were a result of screen passes. Lamar also had the oline issues, backing them up to the goalline multiple times. Both will be in the pro bowl for years to come.
Baltimore still alive...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 10:59 pm : link
...

Rough night to kick.
Division of opinion  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 10:59 pm : link
Jackson is one of those players that it seems you have to love or hate, no in-between.
RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:00 pm : link
In comment 15124971 Mike from Ohio said:
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.



Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.



You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.


Vick had an unbelievable arm. But he has a long, funky motion and struggled with touch and accuracy.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 11:00 pm : link
Was dep still here when Jones became a starter?
RE: RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15124966 speedywheels said:
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.



Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.

Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.

Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...


Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!

Unbelievably dumb hot take.
Conspiracy theories  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:01 pm : link
The drama of the Raven's playoff run this year gives the "scripted like WWE" crowd more fodder
RE: What’s interesting is that both Allen & Jackson..  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:01 pm : link
In comment 15124967 Sean said:
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Very well may get huge contract extensions this summer. After the third season for a QB seems to be the time it gets done.


Allen is a definite.

Baltimore has a lot of thinking to do...
RE: Interesting point...  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 11:02 pm : link
In comment 15124965 bw in dc said:
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by Collinsworth about the wind.


I’ve heard McAfee talk about this. He’s not even sure why they have flags on the goal posts because that almost never tells you picture what’s going on field. These guys do their best to figure it out pregame but things can change on a dime when it’s like tonight. It’s why you saw both Brady and DJ struggle first half in that game and then settle in. I will say Allen was way way off on a couple throws. Gotta be a bit better than that when you have a canon anc play in a Buffalo.
RE: RE: RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:02 pm : link
In comment 15124979 Mike from Ohio said:
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.



Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.

Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.

Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...



Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!

Unbelievably dumb hot take.

Dan Marino is not shit but super overrated by Fins fans.
You  
AcidTest : 1/16/2021 11:02 pm : link
can't take that sack. Throw it away.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 11:03 pm : link
If Tucker made those two field goals ...
Nice play by Hundely...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:04 pm : link
...
Dan Marino is one of the best our passers  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 11:04 pm : link
In NFL history. He was not overrated by Fin fans.

Teams win Lombardi trophies, not individuals.
RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
WillVAB : 1/16/2021 11:04 pm : link
In comment 15124971 Mike from Ohio said:
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.



Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.



You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.


Go look at Vick as a passer under Andy Reid with the Eagles. Look at Cunningham with the Vikings. Lamar will never be the passer they were.
Huntley>Jackson  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 11:05 pm : link
Told you they had a chance now
RE: Dan Marino is one of the best our passers  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 11:06 pm : link
In comment 15124988 Mike from Ohio said:
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In NFL history. He was not overrated by Fin fans.

Teams win Lombardi trophies, not individuals.


Should be “Pure passer”, not “our passer”.
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stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:06 pm : link
They would have a chance if there was more than 5 minutes lol
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:06 pm : link
In comment 15124983 stevemc said:
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Dan Marino is not shit but super overrated by Fins fans.


How old are you? Eighteen?

Marino was nothing short of great.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 11:07 pm : link
Ugh. This game is terrible lol
The wind had no impact on that  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 11:07 pm : link
Stop it Collinsworth
RE: RE: Dan Marino is one of the best our passers  
The Truth : 1/16/2021 11:07 pm : link
In comment 15124992 Mike from Ohio said:
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In NFL history. He was not overrated by Fin fans.

Teams win Lombardi trophies, not individuals.



Should be “Pure passer”, not “our passer”.


Don't think anyone is going to question Marino's talents lol. GOAT discussion caliber QB.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 11:07 pm : link
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.



Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.



You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.



Go look at Vick as a passer under Andy Reid with the Eagles. Look at Cunningham with the Vikings. Lamar will never be the passer they were.


Vick had a cannon for an arm. He had no touch at all, and his accuracy was poor. One of the worst passers of all time.
You gotta catch that  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 11:07 pm : link
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RE: You gotta catch that  
BelieveJJ : 1/16/2021 11:08 pm : link
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Kyle Pitts catches that ball.
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Route 9 : 1/16/2021 11:08 pm : link
Dan Marino is overrated?

I think people really need to start getting some fresh air again.
Marino overrated?  
JohnG in Albany : 1/16/2021 11:08 pm : link
Yeesh.
RE: RE: You gotta catch that  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:09 pm : link
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Kyle Pitts catches that ball.


Usually Andrews does, too.
We talk way too much about Lamar Jackson on this board...  
jrthomps2006 : 1/16/2021 11:10 pm : link
.... kind of odd.
Well,  
JohnG in Albany : 1/16/2021 11:11 pm : link
Jackson was playing in a playoff game tonight.
RE: RE: RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
speedywheels : 1/16/2021 11:11 pm : link
In comment 15124979 Mike from Ohio said:
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.



Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.

Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.

Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...



Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!

Unbelievably dumb hot take.


Did you even even read my message post? I referenced championship games, which both Marino and Kelly reached.

Try again...
RE: ......  
EricJ : 1/16/2021 11:11 pm : link
In comment 15124978 Route 9 said:
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Was dep still here when Jones became a starter?


No... I don't think so. Dep e-mailed me last year
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 11:13 pm : link
In comment 15125006 speedywheels said:
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.



Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.

Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.

Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...



Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!

Unbelievably dumb hot take.



Did you even even read my message post? I referenced championship games, which both Marino and Kelly reached.

Try again...


You said it’s all about Lombardis. Do you get those for winning championship games now?

Way to double down on the stupid.
bills fans have waited a long time for this  
Banks : 1/16/2021 11:14 pm : link
I'm happy for them. They had such a long drought since they've been a legit contender. Pretty likeable team too (minus Josh Norman)
FWIW...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:14 pm : link
I just heard from dep and he assures me he is not Saquads.

dep and I fought it out pretty hard here at BBI but he reached out to me when he was banned. He's actually a good guy, so I believe him on this...
This might have been  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 11:15 pm : link
the most boring playoff game I have ever seen
Nobody is saying that Jackson and Allen suck..  
EricJ : 1/16/2021 11:16 pm : link
based upon tonight's performances. It merely shows that no QB is perfect and getting one of these guys does not guarantee anything.

It is clear that both guys are able to help their teams win regular season games.

I will point out that if this was a Giants' playoff game tonight and Jones delivered the same performance as Jackson, the talk would be how he sucks and we need to find a new QB.

What should not be lost in this game is my belief that defense wins championships. The Buffalo defense should get the MVP tonight.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
WillVAB : 1/16/2021 11:17 pm : link
In comment 15124998 Mike from Ohio said:
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.



Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.



You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.



Go look at Vick as a passer under Andy Reid with the Eagles. Look at Cunningham with the Vikings. Lamar will never be the passer they were.



Vick had a cannon for an arm. He had no touch at all, and his accuracy was poor. One of the worst passers of all time.


Vick didn’t have personnel and a crackerjack offense designed specifically for him like Lamar does. When Vick went to the Eagles Reid actually developed him and designed an offense that got the best out of him. He was just old at that point.

Lamar right now is the best Lamar there is. There’s nothing else that can be done to hide his weaknesses.
Terrible game but…  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:17 pm : link
congrats to buffalo. I don’t like either of those teams but buffalo hasn’t had a playoff win since before I was born.
Good for the Bills...  
jrthomps2006 : 1/16/2021 11:18 pm : link
....my in laws live in Rochester and they are practically crying.
RE: This might have been  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:18 pm : link
In comment 15125014 Route 9 said:
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the most boring playoff game I have ever seen

Seattle vs philly last year was ZZZZZZZZZZ
RE: FWIW...  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15125012 bw in dc said:
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I just heard from dep and he assures me he is not Saquads.

dep and I fought it out pretty hard here at BBI but he reached out to me when he was banned. He's actually a good guy, so I believe him on this...


Lots of members with egg on their face in here. Especially TERPS 🤣
RE: Terrible game but…  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15125017 stevemc said:
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congrats to buffalo. I don’t like either of those teams but buffalo hasn’t had a playoff win since before I was born.


Too many damn Zoomers here
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GiantEgo : 1/16/2021 11:19 pm : link
Another crushing playoff embarrassment for the Ravens and their admirers. It really is a shame.
RE: FWIW...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 11:20 pm : link
In comment 15125012 bw in dc said:
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I just heard from dep and he assures me he is not Saquads.

dep and I fought it out pretty hard here at BBI but he reached out to me when he was banned. He's actually a good guy, so I believe him on this...


Saquads likes to tell people how great he is at investing in Bitcoin, which wasn't something dep did. I thought he was Denny. dep would be on the other sports threads if he were here regularly too especially the NBA
Lamar Jackson is now 1-3 in the playoffs  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 11:20 pm : link
With 3TDs and 5INTs
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:20 pm : link
In comment 15125016 WillVAB said:
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Lamar right now is the best Lamar there is. There’s nothing else that can be done to hide his weaknesses.


You do realize LJax just turned 24, right?

And he's had two historic seasons. Yes, he's very unorthodox, but to suggest he can't get better at 24 is odd to me...
RE: RE: Terrible game but…  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:21 pm : link
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congrats to buffalo. I don’t like either of those teams but buffalo hasn’t had a playoff win since before I was born.



Too many damn Zoomers here

I try to know NFL history but aside from teams like 80s niners only Giants stuff sticks in my head!
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stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:22 pm : link
In comment 15125022 GiantEgo said:
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Another crushing playoff embarrassment for the Ravens and their admirers. It really is a shame.

The new Texans.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: It's amazing the influence I seem to have on other posters  
speedywheels : 1/16/2021 11:22 pm : link
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.



I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.



Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.

Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.

Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...



Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!

Unbelievably dumb hot take.



Did you even even read my message post? I referenced championship games, which both Marino and Kelly reached.

Try again...



You said it’s all about Lombardis. Do you get those for winning championship games now?

Way to double down on the stupid.


And yet, Jackson hasn’t even reached the championship game. So people should stop with the bullshit that he’s all that. I never said those two were shit, but Jackson is 1-3 in playoff games. At least those guys made the SB
So does this mean Jackson isn't going  
LauderdaleMatty : 1/16/2021 11:22 pm : link
To Canton his summer? What's a shame is he's lol seems to be a good kid and he's gotten better as a QB but another example of hypogn a kid way beyond his achievements.

He's it a great QB. Doesn't mean he can't become one but right now Mahones is the only guy who's proven he's great out of the younger QBs.
......  
Route 9 : 1/16/2021 11:22 pm : link
Tell dep I said HELLO.

This BBI dupe hunt is more entertaining than this boring game.
No one game should define a QB  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 11:23 pm : link
Neither Jackson or Allen should be evaluated on a single game. Neither should Jones. Every player should be evaluated on the full body of work.

The whole “he never won a Super Bowl” is idiocy. No one player has ever won a Super Bowl. Jackson couldn’t win in the playoffs until he did last week. Eli couldn’t win the big one until he did. It’s a stupid barometer for people who hate thinking.
RE: Lamar Jackson is now 1-3 in the playoffs  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:24 pm : link
In comment 15125024 Saquads26 said:
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With 3TDs and 5INTs


Well, he's only 24, so there is time.

But it's a fair criticism.

Still, he's getting to the playoffs and made a great run late this season to get the Ravens there.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
eric2425ny : 1/16/2021 11:24 pm : link
In comment 15125025 bw in dc said:
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Lamar right now is the best Lamar there is. There’s nothing else that can be done to hide his weaknesses.



You do realize LJax just turned 24, right?

And he's had two historic seasons. Yes, he's very unorthodox, but to suggest he can't get better at 24 is odd to me...


Normally I would agree. But with his playing style he probably has 3-4 good seasons left.
Man...  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:25 pm : link
that was such a great trade by the Bills to acquire Diggs.
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GiantEgo : 1/16/2021 11:26 pm : link
I guess somebody has to be this decades Donovan McNabb.
Big night for the Lamar haters  
Jim from Katonah : 1/16/2021 11:26 pm : link
Not sure the reason for their (curious) vitriol, but they will go to bed happy. Lamar has had one of most remarkable careers to date for a 24 year old — Heisman, NFL MVP, playoff win — but questions of course remain about him until he makes a deep run and wins it all.

Fingers crossed that one day fans of other teams will give a shit enough about our guy that they’ll be this gleeful when he fails. Fingers crossed that some day soon that our guy will be in a position to be called a “pathetic choker” like Lamar. Teddy Roosevelt has the best quote on this, but too tired to type any more.

Dolphins  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:26 pm : link
are now the only AFCE teams to not make a conference championship
Speedy  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 11:27 pm : link
It doesn’t seem you have any idea what you are saying. All we know is that it isn’t “all about Lombardis” or whatever other nonsense you are spewing tonight.

QBs - like every other player - should be evaluated on all of their play, not the games you randomly select.
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Go Terps : 1/16/2021 11:27 pm : link
If Jones ends up sucking as much as Jackson does, we'll be very lucky.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 11:27 pm : link
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.



Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.



You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.



Go look at Vick as a passer under Andy Reid with the Eagles. Look at Cunningham with the Vikings. Lamar will never be the passer they were.



Vick had a cannon for an arm. He had no touch at all, and his accuracy was poor. One of the worst passers of all time.



Vick didn’t have personnel and a crackerjack offense designed specifically for him like Lamar does. When Vick went to the Eagles Reid actually developed him and designed an offense that got the best out of him. He was just old at that point.

Lamar right now is the best Lamar there is. There’s nothing else that can be done to hide his weaknesses.


Exactly, a good RB and that's it.
RE: Big night for the Lamar haters  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:27 pm : link
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Not sure the reason for their (curious) vitriol, but they will go to bed happy. Lamar has had one of most remarkable careers to date for a 24 year old — Heisman, NFL MVP, playoff win — but questions of course remain about him until he makes a deep run and wins it all.

Fingers crossed that one day fans of other teams will give a shit enough about our guy that they’ll be this gleeful when he fails. Fingers crossed that some day soon that our guy will be in a position to be called a “pathetic choker” like Lamar. Teddy Roosevelt has the best quote on this, but too tired to type any more.

The heisman award is incredibly sus
The problem..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 11:29 pm : link
Jackson faces and will continue to face is that in the playoffs, the good teams can make you one-dimensional. They can force you to have to pass. We've seen it all 3 of his losses.

They way to overcome that is to get better as a passer so making you one-dimensional isn't possible. I don't think he can do that. He doesn't have the mechanics, the footwork or the vision. Being only 24 may not matter in those areas.
Know who's even more overrated than Jackson?  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:29 pm : link
Burrow.
They won more without him and had a sucky offense anyway.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:29 pm : link
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Normally I would agree. But with his playing style he probably has 3-4 good seasons left.


I hear you. He does have a Gumby element to his game and always seems to pop back up. Until tonight...but that could have happened to anyone on the botched snap.

But he definitely needs to improve his mechanics and pocket skills.

Let's be honest. He's so unusual with this style that he's an easy target when he struggles in these games.
RE: Dolphins  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 11:30 pm : link
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are now the only AFCE teams to not make a conference championship


Huh?? I think you are leaving out the end of the sentence. The Dolphins have been to several AFC championships.
RE: RE: Dolphins  
stevemc : 1/16/2021 11:31 pm : link
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are now the only AFCE teams to not make a conference championship



Huh?? I think you are leaving out the end of the sentence. The Dolphins have been to several AFC championships.

I meant this century. My b.
Dolphins  
JohnG in Albany : 1/16/2021 11:31 pm : link
What am I missing? Haven't the Dolphins won Super Bowls?
RE: RE: Dolphins  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 11:32 pm : link
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Huh?? I think you are leaving out the end of the sentence. The Dolphins have been to several AFC championships.


and as a matter of fact, they have been to 8 of them. More than any AFCE team other than the Pats.
We're also talking about a divisional round loss on the road to a 13-3  
Go Terps : 1/16/2021 11:32 pm : link
team. Buffalo is good, and they played their asses off tonight. There's no shame in losing this game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
WillVAB : 1/16/2021 11:32 pm : link
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Lamar right now is the best Lamar there is. There’s nothing else that can be done to hide his weaknesses.



You do realize LJax just turned 24, right?

And he's had two historic seasons. Yes, he's very unorthodox, but to suggest he can't get better at 24 is odd to me...


The things he needs to get better at aren’t solved with some elbow grease in the off-season. His issues are the same issues as when he came into the league.

This is the best possible scheme for him. He is who he is. Really he has no where to go but down as the injuries pile up and his legs become less of a factor.
No wonder...  
JohnG in Albany : 1/16/2021 11:32 pm : link
Marino is overrated. *grin*
RE: RE: RE: Dolphins  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 11:33 pm : link
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Huh?? I think you are leaving out the end of the sentence. The Dolphins have been to several AFC championships.


I meant this century. My b.


Gotcha
Wait a second...  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 11:34 pm : link
A QB who is 24 probably can’t become a better passer?

Did Eli Manning not become a better passer after 2005, or was that the peek for him as a passer and the rest of his career was just at that plateau?
RE: We're also talking about a divisional round loss on the road to a 13-3  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 11:34 pm : link
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team. Buffalo is good, and they played their asses off tonight. There's no shame in losing this game.


We are also talking about a game that if we played similarly, the QB would be getting ripped up and down.

There would most certainly be shame to score 3 points in a playoff loss with a chance to tie the game and end up with a pick 6.

You'd be leading the charge!
RE: The problem..  
Ned In Atlanta : 1/16/2021 11:35 pm : link
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Jackson faces and will continue to face is that in the playoffs, the good teams can make you one-dimensional. They can force you to have to pass. We've seen it all 3 of his losses.

They way to overcome that is to get better as a passer so making you one-dimensional isn't possible. I don't think he can do that. He doesn't have the mechanics, the footwork or the vision. Being only 24 may not matter in those areas.



That’s a reasonable assessment. Jackson has also won an NFL MVP and a playoff game.

Can you apply the same standard to Daniel Jones? If he sucks next year with a hopefully improved supporting cast and a healthy saquon i hope we don’t hear a list of excuses and head into year four in the same qb purgatory were in now
RE: We're also talking about a divisional round loss on the road to a 13-3  
WillVAB : 1/16/2021 11:35 pm : link
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team. Buffalo is good, and they played their asses off tonight. There's no shame in losing this game.


There is when the QB does nothing all night, throws a pick 6 to seal the game, and the backup QB comes off the bench cold and throws the ball better.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:37 pm : link
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The things he needs to get better at aren’t solved with some elbow grease in the off-season. His issues are the same issues as when he came into the league.

This is the best possible scheme for him. He is who he is. Really he has no where to go but down as the injuries pile up and his legs become less of a factor.


I don't know what LJax does in the offseason, but there are some very good QB coaches out there - Jordan Palmer, for example - who could help.
RE: The problem..  
Jim from Katonah : 1/16/2021 11:39 pm : link
In comment 15125049 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Jackson faces and will continue to face is that in the playoffs, the good teams can make you one-dimensional. They can force you to have to pass. We've seen it all 3 of his losses.

They way to overcome that is to get better as a passer so making you one-dimensional isn't possible. I don't think he can do that. He doesn't have the mechanics, the footwork or the vision. Being only 24 may not matter in those areas.


You might be right on that one. Maybe we’ve seen his ceiling. Regular season MVP but playoff chump. He could have changed some minds tonight, but didn’t.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
GiantEgo : 1/16/2021 11:40 pm : link
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The things he needs to get better at aren’t solved with some elbow grease in the off-season. His issues are the same issues as when he came into the league.

This is the best possible scheme for him. He is who he is. Really he has no where to go but down as the injuries pile up and his legs become less of a factor.



I don't know what LJax does in the offseason, but there are some very good QB coaches out there - Jordan Palmer, for example - who could help.


What? Mr. Ultimate QB himself? The model of "Todays NFL" needs off season throwing lessons?
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Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 11:41 pm : link
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Jackson faces and will continue to face is that in the playoffs, the good teams can make you one-dimensional. They can force you to have to pass. We've seen it all 3 of his losses.

They way to overcome that is to get better as a passer so making you one-dimensional isn't possible. I don't think he can do that. He doesn't have the mechanics, the footwork or the vision. Being only 24 may not matter in those areas.



You might be right on that one. Maybe we’ve seen his ceiling. Regular season MVP but playoff chump. He could have changed some minds tonight, but didn’t.


Any half decent NFL QB ties the game there. He cost his team the game and season. He's terrible.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
bw in dc : 1/16/2021 11:44 pm : link
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What? Mr. Ultimate QB himself? The model of "Todays NFL" needs off season throwing lessons?


LJax needs to get better as a passer - yes.

But let's not act like he's Nathan Peterman. This guy is an immensely talented football player who can score points by land and air.
RE: RE: The problem..  
Mike from Ohio : 1/16/2021 11:44 pm : link
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Jackson faces and will continue to face is that in the playoffs, the good teams can make you one-dimensional. They can force you to have to pass. We've seen it all 3 of his losses.

They way to overcome that is to get better as a passer so making you one-dimensional isn't possible. I don't think he can do that. He doesn't have the mechanics, the footwork or the vision. Being only 24 may not matter in those areas.



You might be right on that one. Maybe we’ve seen his ceiling. Regular season MVP but playoff chump. He could have changed some minds tonight, but didn’t.


No, it seems at least on BBI, he can’t change minds. Some people desperately don’t want their minds changed.

Next week when Josh Allen loses he will also suck. Anything that challenges the pre conceived notion will be rejected.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
WillVAB : 1/16/2021 11:46 pm : link
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The things he needs to get better at aren’t solved with some elbow grease in the off-season. His issues are the same issues as when he came into the league.

This is the best possible scheme for him. He is who he is. Really he has no where to go but down as the injuries pile up and his legs become less of a factor.



I don't know what LJax does in the offseason, but there are some very good QB coaches out there - Jordan Palmer, for example - who could help.


Maybe but I don’t think that solves the problem. The game sealing pick tonight wasn’t an inaccurate throw or mechanics. It was a terrible decision. It was terrible decisions all night if you look at the sacks he took.

The book is out on Lamar. Keep him in the pocket and let him hang himself.
RE: RE: We're also talking about a divisional round loss on the road to a 13-3  
Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 11:49 pm : link
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team. Buffalo is good, and they played their asses off tonight. There's no shame in losing this game.



There is when the QB does nothing all night, throws a pick 6 to seal the game, and the backup QB comes off the bench cold and throws the ball better.


Yep and when you score a 7 on the Wonderlic and prove time and time again you can't read a defense.
RE: RE: We're also talking about a divisional round loss on the road to a 13-3  
Go Terps : 1/16/2021 11:49 pm : link
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team. Buffalo is good, and they played their asses off tonight. There's no shame in losing this game.



We are also talking about a game that if we played similarly, the QB would be getting ripped up and down.

There would most certainly be shame to score 3 points in a playoff loss with a chance to tie the game and end up with a pick 6.

You'd be leading the charge!


No, I wouldn't. Getting this far in the playoffs would feel like a miracle.

You think I'd rip Jones for losing in the divisional round on the road in his third season? You've got a short memory...I was here sticking up for Eli when that wasnt a popular thing to do.

When Jones earns some backing and some faith, I'll be right there giving it to him.

For Jones thus far getting to 20 points is a chore - let alone a divisional playoff game. Let him get us there next year, and he can throw ten picks in the game and I won't give him a tough time over it.
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christian : 1/16/2021 11:50 pm : link
Decision making, especially in big spots, is something that evolves for many quarterbacks.
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FatMan in Charlotte : 1/16/2021 11:51 pm : link
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Jackson faces and will continue to face is that in the playoffs, the good teams can make you one-dimensional. They can force you to have to pass. We've seen it all 3 of his losses.

They way to overcome that is to get better as a passer so making you one-dimensional isn't possible. I don't think he can do that. He doesn't have the mechanics, the footwork or the vision. Being only 24 may not matter in those areas.



You might be right on that one. Maybe we’ve seen his ceiling. Regular season MVP but playoff chump. He could have changed some minds tonight, but didn’t.



No, it seems at least on BBI, he can’t change minds. Some people desperately don’t want their minds changed.

Next week when Josh Allen loses he will also suck. Anything that challenges the pre conceived notion will be rejected.


If the Bills lose by scoring 3 points and Allen throws a terrible pick, he'll get criticized. Just like he was criticized when he blew the end of the Texans game last year.

ANY QB will.

Look - replace the Ravens with the Giants tonight - what would BBI say about the QB play? They'd want Jones cut tommorrow and you damn well know it. Terps would be ranting and raving - not saying "oh, we lost to a great Buffalo team".

And that's the hypocrisy of the post - some people don't want their minds changed - you included.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 11:53 pm : link
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The things he needs to get better at aren’t solved with some elbow grease in the off-season. His issues are the same issues as when he came into the league.

This is the best possible scheme for him. He is who he is. Really he has no where to go but down as the injuries pile up and his legs become less of a factor.



I don't know what LJax does in the offseason, but there are some very good QB coaches out there - Jordan Palmer, for example - who could help.


I doubt Jordan Palmer takes him on, he has a reputation to protect. He’s a massive fix and at this point a lost cause.

I give Lamar credit though, these young athlete QBs are understanding it earlier. We are seeing more and more of these guys that can actually play QB at an NFL level. He went up Louisville and worked on being a actual QB. With his athletic ability he could of easily just ran the ball and won a fuckton of games like these guys used to. More anc more you are seeing these really athletic QBs try to be throw first.

The real question is, I’m not sure you can ever develop to get to that elite level making decisions and reading defenses that all the greats have that as soon as it gets hard you can take off a run. Obviously Lamar could do better with his mechanics and getting ball to sidelines, but it’s not all that.
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Zeke's Alibi : 1/16/2021 11:55 pm : link
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Decision making, especially in big spots, is something that evolves for many quarterbacks.


For guys that consistently do it in the pocket under pressure. The problem is Lamar doesn’t get that experience because against all the mediocre and bad defenses he can rely on his legs to make plays for him when push comes to shove. Go up against disciplined defenses and we saw the results. The Bills D isn’t even good.
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Saquads26 : 1/16/2021 11:57 pm : link
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Decision making, especially in big spots, is something that evolves for many quarterbacks.


Not for ones that look to run first and don't have the mental capacity to learn and adjust. He is what he is, he will never be any better.
FMIC  
Go Terps : 1/16/2021 11:58 pm : link
It is complete bullshit that I'd be killing Jones for losing here. These are big boy games with no bad teams.

I knock Jones and the Giants because they've shown themselves to be a million miles from the standard we see in the playoffs.

How about we let the Giants get there instead of giving them respect they haven't earned? In case you haven't noticed they are one of the worst teams in the league over the last three seasons.
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christian : 1/17/2021 12:00 am : link
I’m not sure Giants fans would be critical of Jones if he’d notched an MVP, won a playoff game, and was 23 games over .500,

Hell, if Jones is the league MVP next year, the Giants win 10 games, a playoff game, and he shits the bed in the divisional round, I’d celebrate all offseason.
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Go Terps : 1/17/2021 12:02 am : link
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I’m not sure Giants fans would be critical of Jones if he’d notched an MVP, won a playoff game, and was 23 games over .500,

Hell, if Jones is the league MVP next year, the Giants win 10 games, a playoff game, and he shits the bed in the divisional round, I’d celebrate all offseason.


That's what's amazing to me. It's like the Giants have been good, and we've just been stuck in the Matrix or something. In the world I live in, they're 15-33 the last three seasons.

That's not worthy of criticism? If that isn't, what is?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 12:03 am : link
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The real question is, I’m not sure you can ever develop to get to that elite level making decisions and reading defenses that all the greats have that as soon as it gets hard you can take off a run. Obviously Lamar could do better with his mechanics and getting ball to sidelines, but it’s not all that.


He's got 68 career TD passes and only 18 INTs. That's a 3.8 ration, which is pretty damn good. And some pretty good decisions...
3.8 ratio...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 12:04 am : link
Which means he's making some good decisions.

Was typing way too fast.
RE: FMIC  
Jim from Katonah : 1/17/2021 12:06 am : link
In comment 15125087 Go Terps said:
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It is complete bullshit that I'd be killing Jones for losing here. These are big boy games with no bad teams.

I knock Jones and the Giants because they've shown themselves to be a million miles from the standard we see in the playoffs.

How about we let the Giants get there instead of giving them respect they haven't earned? In case you haven't noticed they are one of the worst teams in the league over the last three seasons.


Jones turns 24 next year. If he won a playoff game, and then shit the bed in round 2, we’d all still be besides ourselves with joy. The idea of him winning even one playoff game next year is a glorious pipe dream at this point. Completely different expectations.
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christian : 1/17/2021 12:10 am : link
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That's what's amazing to me. It's like the Giants have been good, and we've just been stuck in the Matrix or something. In the world I live in, they're 15-33 the last three seasons.

That's not worthy of criticism? If that isn't, what is?


It’s really weird. Personally, I’m stupid optimistic about the Giants. I can find positivity in almost anything.

If Jones won a playoff game, I’d be on here finding ways to prove his trajectory was Super Bowl bound.

But the Giants just keep freaking losing.
RE: RE: FMIC  
Ned In Atlanta : 1/17/2021 12:11 am : link
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It is complete bullshit that I'd be killing Jones for losing here. These are big boy games with no bad teams.

I knock Jones and the Giants because they've shown themselves to be a million miles from the standard we see in the playoffs.

How about we let the Giants get there instead of giving them respect they haven't earned? In case you haven't noticed they are one of the worst teams in the league over the last three seasons.



Jones turns 24 next year. If he won a playoff game, and then shit the bed in round 2, we’d all still be besides ourselves with joy. The idea of him winning even one playoff game next year is a glorious pipe dream at this point. Completely different expectations.


Comparing the Giants and Ravens right now is apples to oranges. But FMIC is the ultimate Giants Shill so he’s taking this as a victory lap.
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Jim from Katonah : 1/17/2021 12:20 am : link
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It is complete bullshit that I'd be killing Jones for losing here. These are big boy games with no bad teams.

I knock Jones and the Giants because they've shown themselves to be a million miles from the standard we see in the playoffs.

How about we let the Giants get there instead of giving them respect they haven't earned? In case you haven't noticed they are one of the worst teams in the league over the last three seasons.



Jones turns 24 next year. If he won a playoff game, and then shit the bed in round 2, we’d all still be besides ourselves with joy. The idea of him winning even one playoff game next year is a glorious pipe dream at this point. Completely different expectations.



Comparing the Giants and Ravens right now is apples to oranges. But FMIC is the ultimate Giants Shill so he’s taking this as a victory lap. [/quote

Lamar has proven he’s good enough to shepherd a team to 13-3, and good enough to win at least one playoff game. We haven’t sniffed .500 and I’m not even sure if Jones has ever beaten a .500 plus team (it was McCoy who won the Seattle game, our sad little high point the past 4 years). Maybe next year Jones can start to move to some sort of relevance where if he loses, opposing fans can call him a choker like Lamar. Fingers crossed.
RE: Dolphins  
bradshaw44 : 1/17/2021 12:24 am : link
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What am I missing? Haven't the Dolphins won Super Bowls?


Hell, they went undefeated one season and won it all. Only team to do so. But he meant this century. That post caught my eye too though.
RE: FMIC  
Danny Kanell : 1/17/2021 12:47 am : link
In comment 15125087 Go Terps said:
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It is complete bullshit that I'd be killing Jones for losing here. These are big boy games with no bad teams.

I knock Jones and the Giants because they've shown themselves to be a million miles from the standard we see in the playoffs.

How about we let the Giants get there instead of giving them respect they haven't earned? In case you haven't noticed they are one of the worst teams in the league over the last three seasons.


To be fair, you’ve knocked Collins for as long as I can remember for his performance in the Superbowl of all games, against one of the best defenses in nfl history.
RE: RE: FMIC  
Saquads26 : 1/17/2021 12:55 am : link
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It is complete bullshit that I'd be killing Jones for losing here. These are big boy games with no bad teams.

I knock Jones and the Giants because they've shown themselves to be a million miles from the standard we see in the playoffs.

How about we let the Giants get there instead of giving them respect they haven't earned? In case you haven't noticed they are one of the worst teams in the league over the last three seasons.



To be fair, you’ve knocked Collins for as long as I can remember for his performance in the Superbowl of all games, against one of the best defenses in nfl history.
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Has he really? Doesn't surprise me at all. Pathetic
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Go Terps : 1/17/2021 12:59 am : link
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It is complete bullshit that I'd be killing Jones for losing here. These are big boy games with no bad teams.

I knock Jones and the Giants because they've shown themselves to be a million miles from the standard we see in the playoffs.

How about we let the Giants get there instead of giving them respect they haven't earned? In case you haven't noticed they are one of the worst teams in the league over the last three seasons.



To be fair, you’ve knocked Collins for as long as I can remember for his performance in the Superbowl of all games, against one of the best defenses in nfl history.


So has everyone else, up to and including Accorsi, who said he played scared. That's not made up.
Bad plays happen  
JohnF : 1/17/2021 1:48 am : link
and they happen to NFL MVP QB's who are in the Hall of Fame. Sometimes, you have to give credit to the other guy for making a great play.

James Harrison intercepted Kurt Warner for 100 yards

And no, I don't think LJ is anywhere near the passer Kurt was at this point in his career, but that can change. Lamar is still only 24, he has the tools to develop into a better passer if he puts the work in and if the team gets better players around him.

Baltimore wouldn't be in the playoffs without him. He had to throw to Dez Bryant (who was running around with a fork in his back), working with a poor OL that can't pass block, and without any real threats at WR, and still carried the team on his back.

Oh, and I don't think it helps to "taylor" the offense around him, either...I think that has hurt his development as an NFL QB. I think you'd see a much more complete player if his head coach was Andy Reid, for example.
It's not like Lamar played great last week  
allstarjim : 1/17/2021 2:13 am : link
If you want to give him credit for getting over the hump and winning a playoff game, fine I guess. But the Ravens defense really carried that team last week and was the primary reason they defeated the Titans.

I mean, they won 20-17 and shut down Henry. Lamar is 1-3, and hasn't played well in any playoff game. He's one-dimensional, and yes, he has gaudy regular season numbers, mainly because he gets more than his fair share of wide open receivers, which, to be fair, is because of the immense respect he demands as a runner.

To me, this was never a Daniel Jones vs Lamar argument. Not sure what the relevance of Jones is. I wasn't a fan of the DJ pick at the time either. But the Lamar worship has gone on and on, including the narrative that Gettleman should've drafted him, and yet, I'll stand by my eval of him from back then. Tremendous athlete, bad QB. This will continue to happen with him year after year until he can't escape and rip off those 50 yard runs anymore, and then he'll be finished.
So, the Center is hiking the ball all over the place all night  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/17/2021 2:29 am : link
...and the kicker misses two kicks, but the Ravens lost solely because of Jackson? Ok...

If you ask me, I thought their play calling was crap. They were moving the ball with ease on their first drive, and then just completely changed their plan.
RE: RE: FMIC  
Go Terps : 1/17/2021 3:05 am : link
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It is complete bullshit that I'd be killing Jones for losing here. These are big boy games with no bad teams.

I knock Jones and the Giants because they've shown themselves to be a million miles from the standard we see in the playoffs.

How about we let the Giants get there instead of giving them respect they haven't earned? In case you haven't noticed they are one of the worst teams in the league over the last three seasons.



To be fair, you’ve knocked Collins for as long as I can remember for his performance in the Superbowl of all games, against one of the best defenses in nfl history.


You remember at the end of last year you called me out because I was critical of Daniel Jones's performance? You said I was more or less doing my contrarian schtick when most were feeling good about his rookie season. Remember that? How are you feeling now?
RE: Big night for the Lamar haters  
Chris684 : 1/17/2021 4:00 am : link
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Not sure the reason for their (curious) vitriol, but they will go to bed happy. Lamar has had one of most remarkable careers to date for a 24 year old — Heisman, NFL MVP, playoff win — but questions of course remain about him until he makes a deep run and wins it all.

Fingers crossed that one day fans of other teams will give a shit enough about our guy that they’ll be this gleeful when he fails. Fingers crossed that some day soon that our guy will be in a position to be called a “pathetic choker” like Lamar. Teddy Roosevelt has the best quote on this, but too tired to type any more.


Oh boo hoo! Poor Lamar Jackson. Spare us your same old lecture on this guy. We are just coming off a stellar career of a 15 year starting QB who never missed a game and won us 2 Super Bowl titles along the way and guess what? He was pretty much taken for granted all 15 years. Eli could never measure in the eyes of many a Giant fan, I read it right here on this board his entire career. Eli also happens to be white so maybe you should stop insinuating foul play as well.

It boils down to the fact that Lamar Jackson gets his ass kissed by many of the same people here who refuse to acknowledge even an ounce of anything positive related to Jones or the franchise overall. Of course people will snicker when he sucks in the playoffs. Many quarterbacks have had to answer for a drop off in their postseason play. He’s not the first. Won’t be the last.
RE: RE: We're also talking about a divisional round loss on the road to a 13-3  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2021 6:25 am : link
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team. Buffalo is good, and they played their asses off tonight. There's no shame in losing this game.



We are also talking about a game that if we played similarly, the QB would be getting ripped up and down.

There would most certainly be shame to score 3 points in a playoff loss with a chance to tie the game and end up with a pick 6.

You'd be leading the charge!


May I add, Josh Allen and his approx. 5.5 YPA? Oh and he fumbled. The kid had arguably an MVP year and certainly appears to be the goods, but on here? A one-legged DJ, who had been making a lot of progress with Garrett for 3 1/2 errorless, moving the chains (with Arm AND legs) games, then had his ups and downs post-injury, would have been killed on here..
Josh Allen had a good game against a very good defense.  
cosmicj : 1/17/2021 7:10 am : link
His pocket presence is something to behold. He was bailing his OL out all night long. If Jones can put together a game like that ever, I’ll be a believer.
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Mike from Ohio : 1/17/2021 8:38 am : link
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Jackson faces and will continue to face is that in the playoffs, the good teams can make you one-dimensional. They can force you to have to pass. We've seen it all 3 of his losses.

They way to overcome that is to get better as a passer so making you one-dimensional isn't possible. I don't think he can do that. He doesn't have the mechanics, the footwork or the vision. Being only 24 may not matter in those areas.



You might be right on that one. Maybe we’ve seen his ceiling. Regular season MVP but playoff chump. He could have changed some minds tonight, but didn’t.



No, it seems at least on BBI, he can’t change minds. Some people desperately don’t want their minds changed.

Next week when Josh Allen loses he will also suck. Anything that challenges the pre conceived notion will be rejected.



If the Bills lose by scoring 3 points and Allen throws a terrible pick, he'll get criticized. Just like he was criticized when he blew the end of the Texans game last year.

ANY QB will.

Look - replace the Ravens with the Giants tonight - what would BBI say about the QB play? They'd want Jones cut tommorrow and you damn well know it. Terps would be ranting and raving - not saying "oh, we lost to a great Buffalo team".

And that's the hypocrisy of the post - some people don't want their minds changed - you included.


Had Jones won the MVP this year and played like this in a playoff game, there would be no massive call to cut him tomorrow. That is ridiculously naive and biased.

And what opinion is it am I staunchly defending? Jackson is a good QB? That is an opinion shared by most everyone who watches NFL football.
RE: So, the Center is hiking the ball all over the place all night  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/17/2021 8:43 am : link
In comment 15125131 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...and the kicker misses two kicks, but the Ravens lost solely because of Jackson? Ok...

If you ask me, I thought their play calling was crap. They were moving the ball with ease on their first drive, and then just completely changed their plan.


Thank you for this, pretty simple. The Lamar hot takes also ignore that Dobbins dropped a couple of key balls, the OL had one of their worst games and the wind neutralized their 2nd biggest weapon - the kicker. But just like Eli, until Lamar carries a team to the Championship game / Super Bowl, he is garbage.
RE: Josh Allen had a good game against a very good defense.  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2021 8:44 am : link
In comment 15125139 cosmicj said:
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His pocket presence is something to behold. He was bailing his OL out all night long. If Jones can put together a game like that ever, I’ll be a believer.


Not sure how a 5.5 ypa can be considered a “good game.” A managed game? Sure. DJ “managed” some pretty nice games pre-injury..I think too many people are already dug in about DJ (not necessarily you). I’ll wait for SB to return (assuming he’s good to go as I expect him to be) as a big aid to DJ.

A thread on here talks about how Garrett has been assessed depending on the AVAILABLE talent he has at his disposal. Should JG return, I look forward to all the options he’ll hopefully have available with a healthy SB and an improved receiving corps.

If DJ shows no progress, I’ll be one of the first to negatively assess his play. I am not dug in. Just trying to be fair.
Ravens  
Lines of Scrimmage : 1/17/2021 8:56 am : link
had a big loss when their LT went down early in the season. They have very little at the WR position and are trotting out Dez Bryant. Over the many years they have put more resources into the defense.

Will be interesting to see if Jackson's representatives push for a contract and if the Ravens commit long term. If they feel Jackson can develop still as a pocket passer then they probably need to give him more help. As others stated, winning a championship requires teams to be balanced and be able to do things that are outside their strengths.
Eli’s incredible 2011 NFC Championship stat line  
cosmicj : 1/17/2021 9:03 am : link
Looks similar to Allen’s last night in many respects. YPA was about the same and Eli also fumbled, with it being recovered by the Giants, but significantly threw no INTs. Key differences are that the 49ers defense was better than the 2020 Ravens and Eli had a lot more pass attempts and threw 2 TDS instead of Allen’s 1.

I don’t think Allen’s performance was in the same stratosphere as Eli’s but i’d say that we need to use our eyes in attention to the stats. The Bills OL was breaking down under a very intense Ravens pass rush, yet Allen was constantly preventing that from turning into negative yardage, and meanwhile completed about 66% of his passes, a good ratio, with no INTs. He was also using that cannon of an arm to force the Ravens to defend the whole field.

I wouldn’t call what he did being a game manager. It was more like playing winning football in a tough playoff context.
Quarterbacks that win awards and teams that make the playoffs  
LBH15 : 1/17/2021 9:08 am : link
Oh how I wish we could be so critical of our guys reaching these heights.
RE: FMIC  
map7711 : 1/17/2021 9:21 am : link
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It is complete bullshit that I'd be killing Jones for losing here. These are big boy games with no bad teams.

I knock Jones and the Giants because they've shown themselves to be a million miles from the standard we see in the playoffs.

How about we let the Giants get there instead of giving them respect they haven't earned? In case you haven't noticed they are one of the worst teams in the league over the last three seasons.


Ummm yes u would.
RE: Eli’s incredible 2011 NFC Championship stat line  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2021 9:27 am : link
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Looks similar to Allen’s last night in many respects. YPA was about the same and Eli also fumbled, with it being recovered by the Giants, but significantly threw no INTs. Key differences are that the 49ers defense was better than the 2020 Ravens and Eli had a lot more pass attempts and threw 2 TDS instead of Allen’s 1.

I don’t think Allen’s performance was in the same stratosphere as Eli’s but i’d say that we need to use our eyes in attention to the stats. The Bills OL was breaking down under a very intense Ravens pass rush, yet Allen was constantly preventing that from turning into negative yardage, and meanwhile completed about 66% of his passes, a good ratio, with no INTs. He was also using that cannon of an arm to force the Ravens to defend the whole field.

I wouldn’t call what he did being a game manager. It was more like playing winning football in a tough playoff context.


That’s EXACTLY how I try to look at games..I simply noted the “5.5” and the “game manager” points as examples of what flucking goes on here. I only care about how the QB runs his team, regardless of stats or cliches. Yes, Eli is the perfect example. DJ has begun to learn how to win after the 0-5/1-7 starts, but needs better complements. He needs to continue to show improvement. Mistakes are going to happen no matter how much he hopefully improves..

Bottom line? DJ was moving this team when he had his legs. He was moving the chains and I’m not going to cite Engrams multiple TD drops to prop up DJ. That shit happens to all. But pre-injury he was doing a good job, but his lack of stats were constantly cited here, regardless of talent around him, health and so on..

So, all I, as a fan care about, is can this guy take charge of this team to help them ascend? Can he move the chains..I believe he can and has shown that. can he be more consistent moving forward with better personnel to work with? He better, or else he’s not our answer long term.
RE: Quarterbacks that win awards and teams that make the playoffs  
BigBlueShock : 1/17/2021 9:28 am : link
In comment 15125180 LBH15 said:
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Oh how I wish we could be so critical of our guys reaching these heights.

You’d still be pissing and moaning every step of the way. It’s in your nature. I’ve seen the Giants win 4 Super Bowls and even in those seasons the whining never stopped from this miserable fan base. There’s a large portion of Giants fans that absolutely deserve to be going through this extended drought. And you’re on top of the list. You don’t deserve a championship.
You hate everybody and cannot even type a post  
LBH15 : 1/17/2021 9:39 am : link
without showing hate for NY Giant fans no matter what they say. No matter what. Read your post here basically calling everybody a "miserable fan base".

You hate everybody on here and my guess is everybody who isn't even on here too.
RE: RE: Quarterbacks that win awards and teams that make the playoffs  
Go Terps : 1/17/2021 9:48 am : link
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Oh how I wish we could be so critical of our guys reaching these heights.


You’d still be pissing and moaning every step of the way. It’s in your nature. I’ve seen the Giants win 4 Super Bowls and even in those seasons the whining never stopped from this miserable fan base. There’s a large portion of Giants fans that absolutely deserve to be going through this extended drought. And you’re on top of the list. You don’t deserve a championship.


And you do?
What Big Blue Shock says is not necessarily wrong  
Chris684 : 1/17/2021 10:00 am : link
The NYG fan base is known to be filled with the “1pm kickoff curmudgeon” types.

If you polled a bunch of Giants and Eagles fans I’d be willing to bet Foles is more beloved by Eagles fans than Ei is here.
BB56  
cosmicj : 1/17/2021 10:04 am : link
I completely agree with you that you need to watch the players perform to supplement the stats, and think almost every BBIer would agree. The problem is that when you watch Jones play, the issues jump off the screen. That’s why I’m skeptical of the “he needs better weapons” argument. My response is that Darius Slayton sure could use a better QB throwing to him.

Good discussion. The AFC Championship will be a humdinger. Peace out.
RE: What Big Blue Shock says is not necessarily wrong  
LBH15 : 1/17/2021 10:05 am : link
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The NYG fan base is known to be filled with the “1pm kickoff curmudgeon” types.

If you polled a bunch of Giants and Eagles fans I’d be willing to bet Foles is more beloved by Eagles fans than Ei is here.


Every fan base has a similar faction. It's like you guys think all sports fans go singing and riding around on the good ship Lollipop all day.

And the comment on Eli is out of bounds wrong.
RE: BB56  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2021 10:05 am : link
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I completely agree with you that you need to watch the players perform to supplement the stats, and think almost every BBIer would agree. The problem is that when you watch Jones play, the issues jump off the screen. That’s why I’m skeptical of the “he needs better weapons” argument. My response is that Darius Slayton sure could use a better QB throwing to him.

Good discussion. The AFC Championship will be a humdinger. Peace out.


Back atcha my friend.
Allen scored a 37 on the Wonderlic  
BigBlueCane : 1/17/2021 10:07 am : link
and Jackson scored much less.

Mental attributes and intangibles continue to be the most important traits for a QB.
RE: RE: RE: We're also talking about a divisional round loss on the road to a 13-3  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 10:17 am : link
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team. Buffalo is good, and they played their asses off tonight. There's no shame in losing this game.



We are also talking about a game that if we played similarly, the QB would be getting ripped up and down.

There would most certainly be shame to score 3 points in a playoff loss with a chance to tie the game and end up with a pick 6.

You'd be leading the charge!



May I add, Josh Allen and his approx. 5.5 YPA? Oh and he fumbled. The kid had arguably an MVP year and certainly appears to be the goods, but on here? A one-legged DJ, who had been making a lot of progress with Garrett for 3 1/2 errorless, moving the chains (with Arm AND legs) games, then had his ups and downs post-injury, would have been killed on here..


Out of curiosity, did you watch the game?

Did you see Buffalo’s very strange game plan in the first half where they ran just 2X? The fewest rushing attempts ever in a playoff game for a half. Daboll seemed to be unaware of the wind conditions and cold. And still had Allen cutting it loose and throwing deep way too many times.

Allen’s second half was much better than his first, btw.

It’s funny, too, how Allen has one off game, in a season of very few, and you bring up Jones who had very few good games the entire season...
I posted..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/17/2021 11:33 am : link
a thread from the archives last week that was ripping Eli. And this was after he had already won a SB MVP.

There's no doubt in my mind that any giants QB would get ripped for the same performance that happened last night.

Just look at what Terps said above. He stands by the idea Collins played scared in the SB and ripped him continually after that game, nevermind that he was playing against a historic defense.

When Jackson shit the bed, it is due to a tip of the cap to Buffalo and kudos for making it that far.

It is almost a long troll job at this point.
Here comes all the excuses  
allstarjim : 1/17/2021 11:38 am : link
For why Lamar couldn't get it done again.

He's not a championship QB. Rodgers lost his LT also. He got it done.

Lamar laid a fat egg and threw a pick 6 in the red zone. An INT where he didn't see the defender. His kicker missed a FG or two. So what. You don't play for field goals. They lose the game making those FGs too.

Lamar is a great runner. Electric. He is not a good QB. I look forward to re-hashing this argument again next season. But I don't get the fascination with regular season accomplishments and stats and awards when your QB doesn't give you a realistic chance to win the Super Bowl. And he doesn't.
Jackson is an extremely productive QB. But it is clearly showing  
chick310 : 1/17/2021 12:15 pm : link
though that he may not be a QB that can get his team to the promised land. Harbaugh and the other Raven coaches have to do something to raise up the part of his game that doesn't come with taking off and running.

That was a bad pick 6 and any QB in the league, including New York Giant QBs, should take some criticism for throwing it.

And, Kerry Collins absolutely played like a deer in headlights versus Ravens. And its not an excuse it was against a historic defense. He could have and needed to play better.

RE: Here comes all the excuses  
Saquads26 : 1/17/2021 12:46 pm : link
In comment 15125366 allstarjim said:
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For why Lamar couldn't get it done again.

He's not a championship QB. Rodgers lost his LT also. He got it done.

Lamar laid a fat egg and threw a pick 6 in the red zone. An INT where he didn't see the defender. His kicker missed a FG or two. So what. You don't play for field goals. They lose the game making those FGs too.

Lamar is a great runner. Electric. He is not a good QB. I look forward to re-hashing this argument again next season. But I don't get the fascination with regular season accomplishments and stats and awards when your QB doesn't give you a realistic chance to win the Super Bowl. And he doesn't.


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RE: Jackson is an extremely productive QB. But it is clearly showing  
allstarjim : 1/17/2021 2:31 pm : link
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though that he may not be a QB that can get his team to the promised land. Harbaugh and the other Raven coaches have to do something to raise up the part of his game that doesn't come with taking off and running.

That was a bad pick 6 and any QB in the league, including New York Giant QBs, should take some criticism for throwing it.

And, Kerry Collins absolutely played like a deer in headlights versus Ravens. And its not an excuse it was against a historic defense. He could have and needed to play better.


He does not have the arm talent. He doesn't. I know he's young, but that's not likely fixable. I'm telling you, when his mobility is degraded to the level of someone like, say, a Ryan Tannehill (who is pretty mobile), the wheels are going to completely fall off. It's going to get ugly.
RE: Here comes all the excuses  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15125366 allstarjim said:
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For why Lamar couldn't get it done again.

He's not a championship QB. Rodgers lost his LT also. He got it done.

Lamar laid a fat egg and threw a pick 6 in the red zone. An INT where he didn't see the defender. His kicker missed a FG or two. So what. You don't play for field goals. They lose the game making those FGs too.

Lamar is a great runner. Electric. He is not a good QB. I look forward to re-hashing this argument again next season. But I don't get the fascination with regular season accomplishments and stats and awards when your QB doesn't give you a realistic chance to win the Super Bowl. And he doesn't.


Where are the excuses exactly? LJax made a major mistake that basically killed the game. That play had nothing to do with arm talent - which you recently cite - but a poor decision where he didn't see the safety.

A lot of QBs have made the mistake - average ones, good ones, great ones.

It gets highlighted because of LJax's post-season struggles. Not saying this isn't fair, but his regular season passing numbers, despite his unorthodox style, are absolutely nothing to sneeze at...

RE: RE: Here comes all the excuses  
allstarjim : 1/17/2021 4:07 pm : link
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For why Lamar couldn't get it done again.

He's not a championship QB. Rodgers lost his LT also. He got it done.

Lamar laid a fat egg and threw a pick 6 in the red zone. An INT where he didn't see the defender. His kicker missed a FG or two. So what. You don't play for field goals. They lose the game making those FGs too.

Lamar is a great runner. Electric. He is not a good QB. I look forward to re-hashing this argument again next season. But I don't get the fascination with regular season accomplishments and stats and awards when your QB doesn't give you a realistic chance to win the Super Bowl. And he doesn't.



Where are the excuses exactly? LJax made a major mistake that basically killed the game. That play had nothing to do with arm talent - which you recently cite - but a poor decision where he didn't see the safety.

A lot of QBs have made the mistake - average ones, good ones, great ones.

It gets highlighted because of LJax's post-season struggles. Not saying this isn't fair, but his regular season passing numbers, despite his unorthodox style, are absolutely nothing to sneeze at...


I'm sorry, did I say that the INT was due to arm talent? No, no I did not. I said he's not going to get significantly better because of arm talent.

Him not seeing the defender IS a mistake that a lot of QBs make, yes. Him not getting his team a TD in 3 quarters, though...that doesn't happen with most championship caliber QBs. I do question whether or not he is a great decision maker as a passer, but that's very hard to evaluate because he's not a guy that is going to go through his progressions often. And his passing numbers are a function of his ability to hurt a team running with the football. It is not a function of his arm talent. That's why I said when his running ability is degraded, he won't be successful, and that's when you will see the passing numbers fall off a cliff, when defenses can play more traditional coverage packages.
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