Both of these guys are proven studs and they both look terrible tonight.. bc of the wind. Most of Allen's yards and the TD were a result of screen passes. Lamar also had the oline issues, backing them up to the goalline multiple times. Both will be in the pro bowl for years to come.
Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.
I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.
Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.
Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.
Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...
Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!
I’ve heard McAfee talk about this. He’s not even sure why they have flags on the goal posts because that almost never tells you picture what’s going on field. These guys do their best to figure it out pregame but things can change on a dime when it’s like tonight. It’s why you saw both Brady and DJ struggle first half in that game and then settle in. I will say Allen was way way off on a couple throws. Gotta be a bit better than that when you have a canon anc play in a Buffalo.
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.
I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.
Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.
Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.
Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...
Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!
Unbelievably dumb hot take.
Dan Marino is not shit but super overrated by Fins fans.
Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.
I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.
Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.
Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.
Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...
Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!
Unbelievably dumb hot take.
Did you even even read my message post? I referenced championship games, which both Marino and Kelly reached.
Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.
I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.
Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.
Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.
Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...
Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!
Unbelievably dumb hot take.
Did you even even read my message post? I referenced championship games, which both Marino and Kelly reached.
Try again...
You said it’s all about Lombardis. Do you get those for winning championship games now?
based upon tonight's performances. It merely shows that no QB is perfect and getting one of these guys does not guarantee anything.
It is clear that both guys are able to help their teams win regular season games.
I will point out that if this was a Giants' playoff game tonight and Jones delivered the same performance as Jackson, the talk would be how he sucks and we need to find a new QB.
What should not be lost in this game is my belief that defense wins championships. The Buffalo defense should get the MVP tonight.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lamar = less accurate Randall Cunningham
Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.
Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.
You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.
Go look at Vick as a passer under Andy Reid with the Eagles. Look at Cunningham with the Vikings. Lamar will never be the passer they were.
Vick had a cannon for an arm. He had no touch at all, and his accuracy was poor. One of the worst passers of all time.
Vick didn’t have personnel and a crackerjack offense designed specifically for him like Lamar does. When Vick went to the Eagles Reid actually developed him and designed an offense that got the best out of him. He was just old at that point.
Lamar right now is the best Lamar there is. There’s nothing else that can be done to hide his weaknesses.
I just heard from dep and he assures me he is not Saquads.
dep and I fought it out pretty hard here at BBI but he reached out to me when he was banned. He's actually a good guy, so I believe him on this...
Saquads likes to tell people how great he is at investing in Bitcoin, which wasn't something dep did. I thought he was Denny. dep would be on the other sports threads if he were here regularly too especially the NBA
Not a Knicks fan if that helps
If Baltimore extends Jackson they will eject win a Super Bowl with him. After the last 3 years he's proven he's a TERRIBLE QB.
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.
Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.
You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.
Rough night to kick.
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.
Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.
You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.
Vick had an unbelievable arm. But he has a long, funky motion and struggled with touch and accuracy.
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.
I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.
Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.
Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.
Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...
Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!
Unbelievably dumb hot take.
Allen is a definite.
Baltimore has a lot of thinking to do...
I’ve heard McAfee talk about this. He’s not even sure why they have flags on the goal posts because that almost never tells you picture what’s going on field. These guys do their best to figure it out pregame but things can change on a dime when it’s like tonight. It’s why you saw both Brady and DJ struggle first half in that game and then settle in. I will say Allen was way way off on a couple throws. Gotta be a bit better than that when you have a canon anc play in a Buffalo.
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.
I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.
Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.
Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.
Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...
Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!
Unbelievably dumb hot take.
Dan Marino is not shit but super overrated by Fins fans.
Teams win Lombardi trophies, not individuals.
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.
Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.
You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.
Go look at Vick as a passer under Andy Reid with the Eagles. Look at Cunningham with the Vikings. Lamar will never be the passer they were.
Teams win Lombardi trophies, not individuals.
Should be “Pure passer”, not “our passer”.
Dan Marino is not shit but super overrated by Fins fans.
How old are you? Eighteen?
Marino was nothing short of great.
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In NFL history. He was not overrated by Fin fans.
Teams win Lombardi trophies, not individuals.
Should be “Pure passer”, not “our passer”.
Don't think anyone is going to question Marino's talents lol. GOAT discussion caliber QB.
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.
Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.
You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.
Go look at Vick as a passer under Andy Reid with the Eagles. Look at Cunningham with the Vikings. Lamar will never be the passer they were.
Vick had a cannon for an arm. He had no touch at all, and his accuracy was poor. One of the worst passers of all time.
Kyle Pitts catches that ball.
I think people really need to start getting some fresh air again.
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Kyle Pitts catches that ball.
Usually Andrews does, too.
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.
I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.
Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.
Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.
Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...
Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!
Unbelievably dumb hot take.
Did you even even read my message post? I referenced championship games, which both Marino and Kelly reached.
Try again...
No... I don't think so. Dep e-mailed me last year
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Can anyone tell me whose dupe Saquads is? He is very, very familiar, and clearly hasn't looked me for a while. It's been killing me... Right on the tip of my tongue but I can't spot it.
I mean, you HAVE been Lamar's biggest vocal cheerleader since the 2018 draft. And I'm not saying this mockingly at all, I admire your commitment to your conviction and I think it's been a good debate. And I do respect your arguments in favor of this player. I do not, however, agree that he is a QB you can win a championship with, because his limitations I don't believe are fixable. Notably, his arm talent and accuracy.
Terps has been adamant that NO ONE deserves a 2nd contract. But just last week, he began his backtrack during the Ravens win, well, if anyone deserves 40 million per...”.
Until he gets to a championship game - nevermind a SB - he’s completely overrated. And anyone singing his praises deserves to get shit for that stance.
Regular season MVP’s are swell, but it’s all about the Lombardi’s...
Great point. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino were shit too!
Unbelievably dumb hot take.
Did you even even read my message post? I referenced championship games, which both Marino and Kelly reached.
Try again...
You said it’s all about Lombardis. Do you get those for winning championship games now?
Way to double down on the stupid.
dep and I fought it out pretty hard here at BBI but he reached out to me when he was banned. He's actually a good guy, so I believe him on this...
It is clear that both guys are able to help their teams win regular season games.
I will point out that if this was a Giants' playoff game tonight and Jones delivered the same performance as Jackson, the talk would be how he sucks and we need to find a new QB.
What should not be lost in this game is my belief that defense wins championships. The Buffalo defense should get the MVP tonight.
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Who disagrees? Cunningham would have been MVP in this era of the NFL. That guy was unreal.
Lamar isn’t anywhere near the QB Cunningham was. He’s Vick but dumber and a shittier passer.
You’ve never seen Mike Vick throw a football, have you? Jackson is not a worse passer than Vick.
Go look at Vick as a passer under Andy Reid with the Eagles. Look at Cunningham with the Vikings. Lamar will never be the passer they were.
Vick had a cannon for an arm. He had no touch at all, and his accuracy was poor. One of the worst passers of all time.
Vick didn’t have personnel and a crackerjack offense designed specifically for him like Lamar does. When Vick went to the Eagles Reid actually developed him and designed an offense that got the best out of him. He was just old at that point.
Lamar right now is the best Lamar there is. There’s nothing else that can be done to hide his weaknesses.
Seattle vs philly last year was ZZZZZZZZZZ
dep and I fought it out pretty hard here at BBI but he reached out to me when he was banned. He's actually a good guy, so I believe him on this...
Lots of members with egg on their face in here. Especially TERPS 🤣
Too many damn Zoomers here
dep and I fought it out pretty hard here at BBI but he reached out to me when he was banned. He's actually a good guy, so I believe him on this...
Saquads likes to tell people how great he is at investing in Bitcoin, which wasn't something dep did. I thought he was Denny. dep would be on the other sports threads if he were here regularly too especially the NBA