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Sunday NFL Divisional Round Playoff Thread

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/17/2021 9:04 am
Browns at Chiefs (3:05 PM ET)


Buccaneers at Saints (6:40 PM ET)

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That was a total...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 4:20 pm : link
spear by Sorenson.
I hate...  
JohnG in Albany : 1/17/2021 4:20 pm : link
that rule.

And that's also why Belichick doesn't want his players extending the ball like that.
Nice hit  
LBH15 : 1/17/2021 4:20 pm : link
Helmet to helmet?
That..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/17/2021 4:21 pm : link
did look like helmet to helmet on the replay, but they'd rather throw flags on two earlier plays for minimal contact
I also hate the rule  
UConn4523 : 1/17/2021 4:21 pm : link
doesn’t make any sense to take away a TD and turn it into a change in possession, if he had the ball and it was a fumble just think of a different penalty in yards lost.
Holy shit that is absolutely a penalty on Sorenson  
Greg from LI : 1/17/2021 4:21 pm : link
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RE: Isn't that targeting?  
BubbaMojo : 1/17/2021 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15125798 section125 said:
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Sorenson lowered his head and dove into Higgins.?


Is targeting an actual rule in the NFL?
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Route 9 : 1/17/2021 4:21 pm : link
If I were the coach you'd see me throwing him around the sideline. Then in tears walking off of the field.

Embarrassing.
RE: IMO they should stop teaching them to stretch  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/17/2021 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15125800 PatersonPlank said:
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its cost a number of fumbles. Ball security is paramount, just take the ball at the 1 and score next play


They don’t and they tell guys don’t stretch in that exact situation with a guy coming flat or at you. Selfish
That sucks  
Steve L : 1/17/2021 4:21 pm : link
What a kick in the balls.
RE: RE: Hate this rule...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15125799 Saquads26 said:
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Helmet to helmut!



Lol what?


What's so funny?

Sorenson went horizontal, lowered his helmet, and speared Higgins in the helmet.

Not hard to discern that...
To clarify  
JohnG in Albany : 1/17/2021 4:22 pm : link
I hate the fumble through the end zone rule.
helmet to helmet  
bc4life : 1/17/2021 4:22 pm : link
How do you miss a call like that in the playoffs?
RE: RE: Isn't that targeting?  
BubbaMojo : 1/17/2021 4:22 pm : link
In comment 15125807 BubbaMojo said:
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In comment 15125798 section125 said:


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Sorenson lowered his head and dove into Higgins.?



Is targeting an actual rule in the NFL?


Is anything a penalty for unnecessary roughness, but I don’t think targeting is an NFL rule, is it?
The fumble occurred...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 4:22 pm : link
because of the spear.
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Route 9 : 1/17/2021 4:23 pm : link
Oh nevermind. Didn't see the helmet. My bad.

Looks as if we got off on the wrong foot.
ball game  
jerseyboyLAX : 1/17/2021 4:23 pm : link
right there
He hit his shoulder not his helmet  
Saquads26 : 1/17/2021 4:23 pm : link
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Hard to figure what is worse  
Sammo85 : 1/17/2021 4:24 pm : link
The NFLs rule book or its officiating.
RE: The fumble occurred...  
Greg from LI : 1/17/2021 4:24 pm : link
In comment 15125815 bw in dc said:
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because of the spear.


Exactly. Getting drilled on the ear hole by the helmet caused it. That really sucks for Cleveland.
RE: The fumble occurred...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/17/2021 4:24 pm : link
In comment 15125815 bw in dc said:
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because of the spear.


Yep. The hit is what caused the ball to come out.

Terrible miss.
Let’s be honest  
Everyone Relax : 1/17/2021 4:25 pm : link
Browns fans just got themselves a free excuse to complain. They were never going to stop the KC offense in this game.
RE: helmet to helmet  
section125 : 1/17/2021 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15125813 bc4life said:
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How do you miss a call like that in the playoffs?


How did they miss the Vikings DB interfere two years ago(3 years) in the playoffs?

Probably the ref was so intent on seeing if the ball got into the end zone and he was blocked he missed it. But geez
RE: He hit his shoulder not his helmet  
bubba0825 : 1/17/2021 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15125821 Saquads26 said:
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No he didn’t
Players should know the rule  
jeff57 : 1/17/2021 4:26 pm : link
And not risk that happening by reaching out with the ball like that.
RE: He hit his shoulder not his helmet  
section125 : 1/17/2021 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15125821 Saquads26 said:
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Does not matter. Initiated contact with the crown of the helmet.
But it was reviewable because of the turnover  
LBH15 : 1/17/2021 4:27 pm : link
so doesn’t that make the hit reviewable by default?

Or is that portion non reviewable still?
RE: RE: He hit his shoulder not his helmet  
Saquads26 : 1/17/2021 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15125830 bubba0825 said:
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No he didn’t


Yes he did and then slid into his helmet. What's he supposed to do just let him score? Ticky tack no call
RE: He hit his shoulder not his helmet  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15125821 Saquads26 said:
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Are you sure you are watching the Browns-Chiefs game?
The helmet to helmet thing should actually be reviewable  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/17/2021 4:27 pm : link
There’s very little gray area there and subject to interpretation. Especially because refs aren’t exactly looking for it.
RE: But it was reviewable because of the turnover  
Greg from LI : 1/17/2021 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15125834 LBH15 said:
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so doesn’t that make the hit reviewable by default?

Or is that portion non reviewable still?


Steratore said it's not reviewable
RE: RE: The fumble occurred...  
jeff57 : 1/17/2021 4:28 pm : link
In comment 15125826 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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because of the spear.



Yep. The hit is what caused the ball to come out.

Terrible miss.

He was losing control of the ball even before the hit.
RE: The helmet to helmet thing should actually be reviewable  
Sammo85 : 1/17/2021 4:28 pm : link
In comment 15125837 Zeke's Alibi said:
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There’s very little gray area there and subject to interpretation. Especially because refs aren’t exactly looking for it.


Yep. Totally agree.
Why is anyone engaging the dupe piece of shit?  
Greg from LI : 1/17/2021 4:29 pm : link
All he wants is to get someone to take the bait
LOL who said that ball was coming out before spear?  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/17/2021 4:29 pm : link
Yeh def not
Cleveland's offense has actually...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 4:29 pm : link
played well.

And only have three points to show for it...
RE: RE: RE: He hit his shoulder not his helmet  
BubbaMojo : 1/17/2021 4:30 pm : link
In comment 15125835 Saquads26 said:
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No he didn’t



Yes he did and then slid into his helmet. What's he supposed to do just let him score? Ticky tack no call


Dude look at the replay. He speared him helmet to helmet. CLEAR AS DAY. Are you blind or dense?
RE: Why is anyone engaging the dupe piece of shit?  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/17/2021 4:30 pm : link
In comment 15125843 Greg from LI said:
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All he wants is to get someone to take the bait


Yep. Hopefully he goes the wayside of BradberryGlue and DannyDimes, and the other dupes who have been purged. He's a fucking clown
Probably a 10 point swing  
SomeFan : 1/17/2021 4:30 pm : link
if he went OOBs on the 2
They have to change...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 4:31 pm : link
that rule btw on the fumble through the endzone.

It's too punitive to the offense. Give the offense the ball back at the twenty. Don't reward the defense.
RE: RE: RE: He hit his shoulder not his helmet  
section125 : 1/17/2021 4:32 pm : link
In comment 15125835 Saquads26 said:
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No he didn’t



Yes he did and then slid into his helmet. What's he supposed to do just let him score? Ticky tack no call


Extend his arms? Not ticky tack.
RE: They have to change...  
BubbaMojo : 1/17/2021 4:32 pm : link
In comment 15125850 bw in dc said:
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that rule btw on the fumble through the endzone.

It's too punitive to the offense. Give the offense the ball back at the twenty. Don't reward the defense.


Agreed.
Terrible  
AcidTest : 1/17/2021 4:33 pm : link
break for Cleveland. That should have been a 15 yard PF on the KC defender for a helmet to helmet hit. The fumble out of the end zone was irrelevant.
So much..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/17/2021 4:34 pm : link
of the game is punitive to the defense.

The offense can take one on the chin every once in awhile.

The rule is the rule and it  
section125 : 1/17/2021 4:36 pm : link
has been the rule for ever. It is penal.
I may be in the minority here but...  
EricJ : 1/17/2021 4:37 pm : link
1. I do not think a fumble into and out of the end zone should be a touch back. It should go back to the spot of the fumble and awarded to the offense. No different than if he fumbled forward on the 30 yard line. They would bring it back.

2. I really do not like the helmet to helmet penalties. I have seen quite often that the offensive player is the one who initiated it OR he suddenly moved his head creating the contact. Throw the flag if it seems to be vicious and intentional, but that's it. Guys are playing football and you ARE going to have the occasional contact with helmets. Just look at the line of scrimmage and see helmet to helmet contact all day long.
RE: So much..  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 4:37 pm : link
In comment 15125856 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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of the game is punitive to the defense.

The offense can take one on the chin every once in awhile.


Not for that penalty. That totally distorts the game.
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Route 9 : 1/17/2021 4:37 pm : link
The touchback change of possession doesn't bug me.

As if the game isn't tilted to benefit the offense enough? good God why even bother having a defense on the field anymore?
RE: They have to change...  
LBH15 : 1/17/2021 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15125850 bw in dc said:
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that rule btw on the fumble through the endzone.

It's too punitive to the offense. Give the offense the ball back at the twenty. Don't reward the defense.


I am not there with that. Offense has to control and break the plane under control. If they don’t and run out of field because of the end zone, then it’s a turnover. Back to the defense.
RE: RE: So much..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/17/2021 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15125862 bw in dc said:
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of the game is punitive to the defense.

The offense can take one on the chin every once in awhile.




Not for that penalty. That totally distorts the game.

It only distorts the game because the offense fumbled. It should keep people from stretching out, just like a QB keeper where they extend the ball - if it is fumbled, the defense likely recovers.

For once, the offense can actually bear some burden. Extend the ball? Take a risk. If it doesn't pay off, you lose possession.
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