1. I do not think a fumble into and out of the end zone should be a touch back. It should go back to the spot of the fumble and awarded to the offense. No different than if he fumbled forward on the 30 yard line. They would bring it back.
2. I really do not like the helmet to helmet penalties. I have seen quite often that the offensive player is the one who initiated it OR he suddenly moved his head creating the contact. Throw the flag if it seems to be vicious and intentional, but that's it. Guys are playing football and you ARE going to have the occasional contact with helmets. Just look at the line of scrimmage and see helmet to helmet contact all day long.
I love the helmet to helmet calls. And I'm fine calling them both ways if applicable.
But the offensive player is usually trying to protect himself, which is the purpose of wearing the helmet. A defensive player is almost always trying to use the helmet as a weapon to inflict pain. The game is called tackle football. You know...that thing you do when you use your arms to bring someone to the ground.
Sorenson wasn't trying to tackle Higgins. He was trying to hit him with his helmet. There is no other way to look at that.
The offense can take one on the chin every once in awhile.
Not for that penalty. That totally distorts the game.
It only distorts the game because the offense fumbled. It should keep people from stretching out, just like a QB keeper where they extend the ball - if it is fumbled, the defense likely recovers.
For once, the offense can actually bear some burden. Extend the ball? Take a risk. If it doesn't pay off, you lose possession.
If a player dives for a first down marker and the ball goes out of bounds. The offense keeps the ball. That's the way I see it this...
1. I do not think a fumble into and out of the end zone should be a touch back. It should go back to the spot of the fumble and awarded to the offense. No different than if he fumbled forward on the 30 yard line. They would bring it back.
2. I really do not like the helmet to helmet penalties. I have seen quite often that the offensive player is the one who initiated it OR he suddenly moved his head creating the contact. Throw the flag if it seems to be vicious and intentional, but that's it. Guys are playing football and you ARE going to have the occasional contact with helmets. Just look at the line of scrimmage and see helmet to helmet contact all day long.
I love the helmet to helmet calls. And I'm fine calling them both ways if applicable.
But the offensive player is usually trying to protect himself, which is the purpose of wearing the helmet. A defensive player is almost always trying to use the helmet as a weapon to inflict pain. The game is called tackle football. You know...that thing you do when you use your arms to bring someone to the ground.
Sorenson wasn't trying to tackle Higgins. He was trying to hit him with his helmet. There is no other way to look at that.
Exactly - could have used his arms to shove Higgins out of bounds
fine with the rule that it's a turnover if you fumble out of the back of the end zone. I simply think it was negated on that play by a helmet to helmet hit.
He ran to the locker room pretty well but he was clearly out of it for a bit. The protocol is meant to protect against that but if you take the test quick enough you can pass it (rugby makes you wait 10 minutes before they administer the test for that reason)
2. I really do not like the helmet to helmet penalties. I have seen quite often that the offensive player is the one who initiated it OR he suddenly moved his head creating the contact. Throw the flag if it seems to be vicious and intentional, but that's it. Guys are playing football and you ARE going to have the occasional contact with helmets. Just look at the line of scrimmage and see helmet to helmet contact all day long.
I love the helmet to helmet calls. And I'm fine calling them both ways if applicable.
But the offensive player is usually trying to protect himself, which is the purpose of wearing the helmet. A defensive player is almost always trying to use the helmet as a weapon to inflict pain. The game is called tackle football. You know...that thing you do when you use your arms to bring someone to the ground.
Sorenson wasn't trying to tackle Higgins. He was trying to hit him with his helmet. There is no other way to look at that.
Control and break the plane. Otherwise you are turning the ball over because you ran out of controllable field of play.
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of the game is punitive to the defense.
The offense can take one on the chin every once in awhile.
Not for that penalty. That totally distorts the game.
It only distorts the game because the offense fumbled. It should keep people from stretching out, just like a QB keeper where they extend the ball - if it is fumbled, the defense likely recovers.
For once, the offense can actually bear some burden. Extend the ball? Take a risk. If it doesn't pay off, you lose possession.
If a player dives for a first down marker and the ball goes out of bounds. The offense keeps the ball. That's the way I see it this...
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1. I do not think a fumble into and out of the end zone should be a touch back. It should go back to the spot of the fumble and awarded to the offense. No different than if he fumbled forward on the 30 yard line. They would bring it back.
2. I really do not like the helmet to helmet penalties. I have seen quite often that the offensive player is the one who initiated it OR he suddenly moved his head creating the contact. Throw the flag if it seems to be vicious and intentional, but that's it. Guys are playing football and you ARE going to have the occasional contact with helmets. Just look at the line of scrimmage and see helmet to helmet contact all day long.
I love the helmet to helmet calls. And I'm fine calling them both ways if applicable.
But the offensive player is usually trying to protect himself, which is the purpose of wearing the helmet. A defensive player is almost always trying to use the helmet as a weapon to inflict pain. The game is called tackle football. You know...that thing you do when you use your arms to bring someone to the ground.
Sorenson wasn't trying to tackle Higgins. He was trying to hit him with his helmet. There is no other way to look at that.
Exactly - could have used his arms to shove Higgins out of bounds
They heard you and turned up the wind machines
I hope.
I'd never believe that I'd say those words ...
But certainly a case can be made either way.
Twisted neck?
Your brain just needs to slosh around in your dome from the whiplash, doesn't need to be blunt force.
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And I don't see where he gets knocked loopy
Your brain just needs to slosh around in your dome from the whiplash, doesn't need to be blunt force.
I don't think I've ever seen that nbefore
Looked like Bienemy.
Wow, just saw that. Bullshit.
Yeah saw that. Crazy