or at least play more meaningful minutes. The team looks so much better when he's on the floor. Spacing's better, guys get better looks. It's obvious to everyone.
It’s really not ridiculous at all. Guys that you want to play more are playing more and more minutes and will continue to play more minutes as they improve and get more comfy. IQ is also a rookie. Don’t worry so much about who’s starting and who’s coming off the bench. The team is still winning more games than anyone here expected. They might even win today.
Thibs is likely trying to learn as much as he can about every player he has here. You guys are freaking out over his usage early on in year 1. Think about that.
players playing unlimited minutes, going beyond what is planned is risky.
The body gets tired, it will sacrifice hard won technique and smart habits. I'm seeing a really well coached team (from last year) that Thibs is the author of.
Calling or questioning a coach, with this team, and track record, is not wise. This team looks light years ahead of last year.
If you give a young player unlimited run... you risk un-doing positives they incorporate into game time decision making. Knox, for instance, needs to develop good habits and work rate to play. He needs minutes too. Its a delicate balance.
If a player knows what to expect in their window of minutes, it will bear more time over the course of the season, not a couple weeks.
RE: RE: RE: So, Knick fans already bailing on Thibs?
It’s really not ridiculous at all. Guys that you want to play more are playing more and more minutes and will continue to play more minutes as they improve and get more comfy. IQ is also a rookie. Don’t worry so much about who’s starting and who’s coming off the bench. The team is still winning more games than anyone here expected. They might even win today.
Thibs is likely trying to learn as much as he can about every player he has here. You guys are freaking out over his usage early on in year 1. Think about that.
You cant start bad every single game, they started great this game but every game during the 5 game losing streak they are in holes
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Why are you assuming that an excellent player right now is going to regress? Why? Here’s the facts about Randle.
— he’s always been a talent
— he’s always been a productive scorer
— always been a productive rebounder
— always had the ability to bring the ball up
— always has the ability to pass
— never played for a good HC in the nba
If every GM dealt players away out of a fear that the player was going to regress, we’d have one weird league.
We finally might have stepped in shit and fans want to get rid of the guy. Unbelievable.
Yea really dumb take. Guy has post game, can shoot mid to 3, great on the boards, I am not into him bringing the ball up as many here are, but he can certainly handle it on the break. He is a below average to poor passer (gets tunnel vision a lot) and his defense is below average.
He is a fine player. He is Zach Randolph with a handle.
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Why are you assuming that an excellent player right now is going to regress? Why? Here’s the facts about Randle.
— he’s always been a talent
— he’s always been a productive scorer
— always been a productive rebounder
— always had the ability to bring the ball up
— always has the ability to pass
— never played for a good HC in the nba
If every GM dealt players away out of a fear that the player was going to regress, we’d have one weird league.
We finally might have stepped in shit and fans want to get rid of the guy. Unbelievable.
Because a high first rounder is more valuable than giving this guy a huge contract and keeping Obi out of lineup
You
ARE
OUT
OF YOUR MIND
I would trade both RJ Barrett AND Obi Toppen for Ruben Randle's productivity. Those are both high first rounders and they are unknowns. Likewise, nobody is trading a high pick when guys like Zion, Morant, Doncic, Trae Young and Fox are potentially available.
Just stop. RR is a 26 year old production machine who shares the rock. He is an excellent modern day stretch 4.
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Why are you assuming that an excellent player right now is going to regress? Why? Here’s the facts about Randle.
— he’s always been a talent
— he’s always been a productive scorer
— always been a productive rebounder
— always had the ability to bring the ball up
— always has the ability to pass
— never played for a good HC in the nba
If every GM dealt players away out of a fear that the player was going to regress, we’d have one weird league.
We finally might have stepped in shit and fans want to get rid of the guy. Unbelievable.
Because a high first rounder is more valuable than giving this guy a huge contract and keeping Obi out of lineup
Oh is it now? Can you guarantee that? Nope.
Also, why can’t we have two good forwards here in obi and Randle? This is of course predicated on the assumption that Obi is in fact a good player one day and not another Kenny sky walker....
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Why are you assuming that an excellent player right now is going to regress? Why? Here’s the facts about Randle.
— he’s always been a talent
— he’s always been a productive scorer
— always been a productive rebounder
— always had the ability to bring the ball up
— always has the ability to pass
— never played for a good HC in the nba
If every GM dealt players away out of a fear that the player was going to regress, we’d have one weird league.
We finally might have stepped in shit and fans want to get rid of the guy. Unbelievable.
Because a high first rounder is more valuable than giving this guy a huge contract and keeping Obi out of lineup
Oh is it now? Can you guarantee that? Nope.
Also, why can’t we have two good forwards here in obi and Randle? This is of course predicated on the assumption that Obi is in fact a good player one day and not another Kenny sky walker....
I would argue that because we cant guard true 3s with either let alone both those guys on the floor.
They both bring different elements I guess, but both are below avg on D. Randle (Julius) is better as of now, but Obi is not evaluated as of yet, but projected to be poor
seems much more comfortable post injury. Probably not surprising as he's getting more accustomed to the speed of everything. His defense looks not bad too.
If we had a player like Tatum everyone out there is better. Kids played well. Great game. Why not all the time. How about IQ with 8 assists also in 20 min.
If it brought back a blue chip prospect? I’m talking stud prospect not the 7th pick in a 4 player draft, yeah I’d have to consider it.
You ain’t getting that kind of draft pick back for Randle because no team picking 1-2-3 is looking for a player like Randle.
So the next discussion is, what do you consider a "stud prospect"? Because the last 3 years, Randle is averaging over 20 pts per game, 9 boards and 3 assists (almost 7 this year). That is better than Zach Randolph who was a big part of two perennial playoff teams in Portland and Memphis. He also is a slightly better defender. Lets also mention that JR has missed no more than 9 games in a season since he started playing.
Right now, would you trade Randle for say, LaMelo Ball? Because I wouldnt. I would trade him and a 1st for Jayson Tatum.
was the favorite to be #1 overall before he went to Kentucky. Did he ever possess any kind of offensive skill or was he always a Thabeet-like player?
He was like Camby at UMass. Camby didnt really develop his shot until he got to NYK. But Noel doesnt run as well as Camby did. Camby in transition was something to watch.
Nobody is bailing, but this is getting ridiculous
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Classic Boston homers
Classic Boston homers
Thought the same thing but he doesn't always defend the pick and roll well
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This fanbase goes through coaches so quickly.
Nobody is bailing, but this is getting ridiculous
It’s really not ridiculous at all. Guys that you want to play more are playing more and more minutes and will continue to play more minutes as they improve and get more comfy. IQ is also a rookie. Don’t worry so much about who’s starting and who’s coming off the bench. The team is still winning more games than anyone here expected. They might even win today.
Thibs is likely trying to learn as much as he can about every player he has here. You guys are freaking out over his usage early on in year 1. Think about that.
Can't stand Payton's game. He doesn't look like a PG to me at all.
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Why are you assuming that an excellent player right now is going to regress? Why? Here’s the facts about Randle.
— he’s always been a talent
— he’s always been a productive scorer
— always been a productive rebounder
— always had the ability to bring the ball up
— always has the ability to pass
— never played for a good HC in the nba
If every GM dealt players away out of a fear that the player was going to regress, we’d have one weird league.
We finally might have stepped in shit and fans want to get rid of the guy. Unbelievable.
The body gets tired, it will sacrifice hard won technique and smart habits. I'm seeing a really well coached team (from last year) that Thibs is the author of.
Calling or questioning a coach, with this team, and track record, is not wise. This team looks light years ahead of last year.
If you give a young player unlimited run... you risk un-doing positives they incorporate into game time decision making. Knox, for instance, needs to develop good habits and work rate to play. He needs minutes too. Its a delicate balance.
If a player knows what to expect in their window of minutes, it will bear more time over the course of the season, not a couple weeks.
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This fanbase goes through coaches so quickly.
Nobody is bailing, but this is getting ridiculous
It’s really not ridiculous at all. Guys that you want to play more are playing more and more minutes and will continue to play more minutes as they improve and get more comfy. IQ is also a rookie. Don’t worry so much about who’s starting and who’s coming off the bench. The team is still winning more games than anyone here expected. They might even win today.
Thibs is likely trying to learn as much as he can about every player he has here. You guys are freaking out over his usage early on in year 1. Think about that.
You cant start bad every single game, they started great this game but every game during the 5 game losing streak they are in holes
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This lineup is killing the team
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Why are you assuming that an excellent player right now is going to regress? Why? Here’s the facts about Randle.
— he’s always been a talent
— he’s always been a productive scorer
— always been a productive rebounder
— always had the ability to bring the ball up
— always has the ability to pass
— never played for a good HC in the nba
If every GM dealt players away out of a fear that the player was going to regress, we’d have one weird league.
We finally might have stepped in shit and fans want to get rid of the guy. Unbelievable.
Yea really dumb take. Guy has post game, can shoot mid to 3, great on the boards, I am not into him bringing the ball up as many here are, but he can certainly handle it on the break. He is a below average to poor passer (gets tunnel vision a lot) and his defense is below average.
He is a fine player. He is Zach Randolph with a handle.
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This lineup is killing the team
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Why are you assuming that an excellent player right now is going to regress? Why? Here’s the facts about Randle.
— he’s always been a talent
— he’s always been a productive scorer
— always been a productive rebounder
— always had the ability to bring the ball up
— always has the ability to pass
— never played for a good HC in the nba
If every GM dealt players away out of a fear that the player was going to regress, we’d have one weird league.
We finally might have stepped in shit and fans want to get rid of the guy. Unbelievable.
Because a high first rounder is more valuable than giving this guy a huge contract and keeping Obi out of lineup
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In comment 15125401 Earl the goat said:
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This lineup is killing the team
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Why are you assuming that an excellent player right now is going to regress? Why? Here’s the facts about Randle.
— he’s always been a talent
— he’s always been a productive scorer
— always been a productive rebounder
— always had the ability to bring the ball up
— always has the ability to pass
— never played for a good HC in the nba
If every GM dealt players away out of a fear that the player was going to regress, we’d have one weird league.
We finally might have stepped in shit and fans want to get rid of the guy. Unbelievable.
Because a high first rounder is more valuable than giving this guy a huge contract and keeping Obi out of lineup
You
ARE
OUT
OF YOUR MIND
I would trade both RJ Barrett AND Obi Toppen for Ruben Randle's productivity. Those are both high first rounders and they are unknowns. Likewise, nobody is trading a high pick when guys like Zion, Morant, Doncic, Trae Young and Fox are potentially available.
Just stop. RR is a 26 year old production machine who shares the rock. He is an excellent modern day stretch 4.
Am I misspelling it? Or is Earl? Apologies if its me.
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do you think his name is Reuben? lmao
Am I misspelling it? Or is Earl? Apologies if its me.
Holy shit, I was talking about Rueben Randle with my Dad as I was posting and got caught in the vortex. Lol! Thats not good.
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In comment 15125401 Earl the goat said:
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This lineup is killing the team
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Why are you assuming that an excellent player right now is going to regress? Why? Here’s the facts about Randle.
— he’s always been a talent
— he’s always been a productive scorer
— always been a productive rebounder
— always had the ability to bring the ball up
— always has the ability to pass
— never played for a good HC in the nba
If every GM dealt players away out of a fear that the player was going to regress, we’d have one weird league.
We finally might have stepped in shit and fans want to get rid of the guy. Unbelievable.
Because a high first rounder is more valuable than giving this guy a huge contract and keeping Obi out of lineup
Oh is it now? Can you guarantee that? Nope.
Also, why can’t we have two good forwards here in obi and Randle? This is of course predicated on the assumption that Obi is in fact a good player one day and not another Kenny sky walker....
No, total brain fart by me. Thanks for the heads up!
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In comment 15125556 Jon in NYC said:
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do you think his name is Reuben? lmao
Am I misspelling it? Or is Earl? Apologies if its me.
Holy shit, I was talking about Rueben Randle with my Dad as I was posting and got caught in the vortex. Lol! Thats not good.
hahaha all good. I managed to completely block Reuben Randle out of my mind which is probably for the best.
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In comment 15125520 djm said:
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In comment 15125401 Earl the goat said:
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This lineup is killing the team
As much as this isn’t going to sit well with BBI knick fans I feel dealing Randle ASAP before his value tanks
Getting Obi into starting lineup along with IQ is key
Robinson
Obi
Knox
RJ
IQ
Have Rivers Burke Noel coming off Bench
Further. I may be dreaming but hopefully Leon can work a deal to get Beal
Why are you assuming that an excellent player right now is going to regress? Why? Here’s the facts about Randle.
— he’s always been a talent
— he’s always been a productive scorer
— always been a productive rebounder
— always had the ability to bring the ball up
— always has the ability to pass
— never played for a good HC in the nba
If every GM dealt players away out of a fear that the player was going to regress, we’d have one weird league.
We finally might have stepped in shit and fans want to get rid of the guy. Unbelievable.
Because a high first rounder is more valuable than giving this guy a huge contract and keeping Obi out of lineup
Oh is it now? Can you guarantee that? Nope.
Also, why can’t we have two good forwards here in obi and Randle? This is of course predicated on the assumption that Obi is in fact a good player one day and not another Kenny sky walker....
I would argue that because we cant guard true 3s with either let alone both those guys on the floor.
They both bring different elements I guess, but both are below avg on D. Randle (Julius) is better as of now, but Obi is not evaluated as of yet, but projected to be poor
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In comment 15125556 Jon in NYC said:
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do you think his name is Reuben? lmao
Am I misspelling it? Or is Earl? Apologies if its me.
Holy shit, I was talking about Rueben Randle with my Dad as I was posting and got caught in the vortex. Lol! Thats not good.
hahaha all good. I managed to completely block Reuben Randle out of my mind which is probably for the best.
So Rueben Randle is not Reuben Randle? Lol
Lol I swear NBA officials make shit up as the go along. Tim Donaghy was no outlier.
You ain’t getting that kind of draft pick back for Randle because no team picking 1-2-3 is looking for a player like Randle.
You ain’t getting that kind of draft pick back for Randle because no team picking 1-2-3 is looking for a player like Randle.
So the next discussion is, what do you consider a "stud prospect"? Because the last 3 years, Randle is averaging over 20 pts per game, 9 boards and 3 assists (almost 7 this year). That is better than Zach Randolph who was a big part of two perennial playoff teams in Portland and Memphis. He also is a slightly better defender. Lets also mention that JR has missed no more than 9 games in a season since he started playing.
Right now, would you trade Randle for say, LaMelo Ball? Because I wouldnt. I would trade him and a 1st for Jayson Tatum.
Point is Randle is a huge value and is playing out of his skull.
He was like Camby at UMass. Camby didnt really develop his shot until he got to NYK. But Noel doesnt run as well as Camby did. Camby in transition was something to watch.
He went 19-10-3 today. Slow down on writing the RJB nba career book please.
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In comment 15125556 Jon in NYC said:
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do you think his name is Reuben? lmao
Am I misspelling it? Or is Earl? Apologies if its me.
Holy shit, I was talking about Rueben Randle with my Dad as I was posting and got caught in the vortex. Lol! Thats not good.
This is the best.
Point is Randle is a huge value and is playing out of his skull.
We’re on the same page. We got lucky with Randle. Maybe it wasn’t luck. The guy always had hard to teach nba talents. I’m not giving that away.