-Rosenthal says some “sources” do not believe the Mets would be willing to spend 25-30 per on Springer and it would have to be a more team friendly price.
Sport contracts have not made sense for a long time. Contracts like Lindal got from the Mets a day or two ago and that Springer is asking for make little sense at anytime, but particularly when it is unclear when teams will have ticket sales and ancillary revenue. I am not a fan of the trade with the Cleveland Baseball Team. A very similar trade to the Leonard Williams trade that was not well received ( but may work out well) Mr Cohen will be under a lot of pressure to sign the type of high dollar long term contract that will be an albatross if he wants to stay under the luxury tax or have the club break even in revenue.
with all due respect that is maybe your worst post ever.
1. Who is Lindal and what contract did the Mets give him?
2. The Williams trade is absolutely nothing like the Lindor trade. The Mets are currently contenders, so even in the worst case where the Mets fail to re-sign Lindor, they still get his services for all of this year, and assume they'll at least offer the QO and get a pick if he signs elsewhere.
and there's more, but you get the point.
I understand passing on George Springer at $25-30M a year
when extending Conforto/Thor/Lindor should be the priority.
I just wish there was a better fall back option in free agency for CF's... JBJ doesn't do it for me and once you get past him, you are talking about bringing back Marisnick or signing someone like Almora. Yuck!
is objectively a good one. As Dan has repeatedly pointed out, not only did the Mets acquire Lindor, they also got Cookie Carrasco how is going to slot immediately in behind deGrom with Stro to form a more than solid trio of starting pitchers to go into the season with, and Carrasco has 3 more seasons under contract at reasonable dollars and SP was an enormous need for the Mets.
Further, concerns regarding extending Lindor need to be tempered with the fact that the Mets now have the richest owner in baseball, who has already given indications that he is going to be a spender and won't even shy away from going over the luxury tax if not this year, then next or in the future.
And though I'm a big fan of Gimenez, Lindor is an enormous upgrade, he's one of the best players in the game. It's a home run trade.
And if Lindor does make it to free agency, there's a decent enough chance he comes back to the Mets as the high bidder. And if they're not, you're heading into a free agent period in which, as of now, Trevor Story, Carlos Correa, Corey Seager, and Javy Baez will all be hitting the market, with Mauricio perhaps 2 or 3 seasons away.
(to me at least) would have been the #2 available FA SP had he been a FA, and his track record is superior to Bauer's. He's owed 24 with a third-year option, Bauer will make more than that in year one, possible as much as 1/3 more.
RE: I understand passing on George Springer at $25-30M a year
when extending Conforto/Thor/Lindor should be the priority.
I just wish there was a better fall back option in free agency for CF's... JBJ doesn't do it for me and once you get past him, you are talking about bringing back Marisnick or signing someone like Almora. Yuck!
Sandy has mentioned how LH the lineup is on numerous occasions. I find it hard to believe JBJ will be a Met in 2021.
when extending Conforto/Thor/Lindor should be the priority.
I just wish there was a better fall back option in free agency for CF's... JBJ doesn't do it for me and once you get past him, you are talking about bringing back Marisnick or signing someone like Almora. Yuck!
At this point, I'm hoping they get another middle infielder with a plus glove that can handle the bat, that would allow McNeil to play more outfield and improve the defense at least in LF as a late inning switch (Dom). They can still get a defense only glove for CF, I think, and then you're solid for late inning defense. I don't mind Nimmo in CF because the bat plays.
Honestly wouldn't mind bringing Droobs back, maybe he's a little long in the tooth but he's just such a solid all-around player and hits from both sides, can play 2nd and 3rd.
There are a lot of interesting names out there for infield, but I'm not up on most of their defensive chops.
If things remain status quo and Mets do not add another big piece (Hand, Springer etc) with the rest of the NL East where do you think the Mets will finish?
If things remain status quo and Mets do not add another big piece (Hand, Springer etc) with the rest of the NL East where do you think the Mets will finish?
Personally, I like them a lot right now. I think a big question still has to be answered about the DH in the NL for 2021. Because if there is a DH, getting Dom & Alonso in the lineup is huge. I'm sure they will have both in the lineup often anyway, with Dom in LF, but obviously the DH will allow them to have a better defensive outfield as well.
Regardless, I think the offense is terrific right now, and the late inning bullpen is really good, and the starters, at least 1 through 4, are competitive (I know I may be giving Peterson a little bit of leeway here).
I like them to win the East. I think the flaws of the other teams are much more glaring. I think the Braves losing Ozuna is going to hurt them. Right now, if Thor comes back and is at least very solid by the end of the season, I think they are World Series contenders.
I'd love to grab him to compete in camp with both Matz and Peterson. Ideally he wins the 5th spot and you can put Peterson in the minors as depth. He has always had very strong numbers in the NL East and maybe you can even get him on a deal where he's willing to go to the minors for the first few months if necessary like he did with the NYY a few years ago.
League deal with an opt out id be in on Gio. Zero interest on a minor league deal. Both Seidler and Paternosteo confirm the Mets went for a bunch of lesser regarded IFAs. They did this a few years ago and didn’t have a great return. Generally they chase some bigger names. Most recently Rosario, Gimenez, Alvarez, Mauricio were all “big” IFAs. I do not expect this to be a trend under Cohen (the lesser IFAs)
I don't remember these guys, is this blurb from BA for the right team?
I remember the names you mentioned obviously, but not these two, it's possible I tried to block 2019 out of my mind though.
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...The Mets paid out one of the biggest bonuses of the 2019 class to land Dominican center fielder Alexander Ramirez for $2.05 million. Later in the year, they signed Venezuelan righthander Robert Dominguez, a late riser who ran his fastball up to 99 mph at 17 years old and ranked as the top pitcher signed in 2019....
I'd love to grab him to compete in camp with both Matz and Peterson. Ideally he wins the 5th spot and you can put Peterson in the minors as depth. He has always had very strong numbers in the NL East and maybe you can even get him on a deal where he's willing to go to the minors for the first few months if necessary like he did with the NYY a few years ago.
If he wins the spot then he's on the OD roster...Peterson is likely the 4th starter regardless. Remember it's going to be a couple of months before we get Thor back, so Peterson is the presumptive 4th starter on Opening Day.
I don't remember these guys, is this blurb from BA for the right team?
I remember the names you mentioned obviously, but not these two, it's possible I tried to block 2019 out of my mind though.
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...The Mets paid out one of the biggest bonuses of the 2019 class to land Dominican center fielder Alexander Ramirez for $2.05 million. Later in the year, they signed Venezuelan righthander Robert Dominguez, a late riser who ran his fastball up to 99 mph at 17 years old and ranked as the top pitcher signed in 2019....
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PJ,
They both are Mets. Because they was no season they basically signed and their “stock” remains stagnant (because they haven’t played). Ramirez may be the second best OF prospect in the system (that’s not saying a ton) but is intriguing. Dominguez received a small bonus as an “older” late riser and some question the upper 90’s velocity as other teams didn’t see that but who knows? As I said, haven’t played so it’s anyone’s guess. There were a bunch of bonus baby IFA P last signing period so without playing, it’s hard to accept Dominguez being “the top” or close to it. He got 95,000 to sign multiple arms got 1 million plus Link - ( New Window )
I'd love to grab him to compete in camp with both Matz and Peterson. Ideally he wins the 5th spot and you can put Peterson in the minors as depth. He has always had very strong numbers in the NL East and maybe you can even get him on a deal where he's willing to go to the minors for the first few months if necessary like he did with the NYY a few years ago.
If he wins the spot then he's on the OD roster...Peterson is likely the 4th starter regardless. Remember it's going to be a couple of months before we get Thor back, so Peterson is the presumptive 4th starter on Opening Day.
I don't know who has the upper hand between Peterson and Matz. If the season started today they'd be the 4/5 in some order but I think they are going to bring in some arms to push them in ST and there's a decent enough chance Peterson gets beat out. I liked what we saw from him last year but I wouldn't exactly guarantee him a roster spot.
I don't remember these guys, is this blurb from BA for the right team?
I remember the names you mentioned obviously, but not these two, it's possible I tried to block 2019 out of my mind though.
Quote:
...The Mets paid out one of the biggest bonuses of the 2019 class to land Dominican center fielder Alexander Ramirez for $2.05 million. Later in the year, they signed Venezuelan righthander Robert Dominguez, a late riser who ran his fastball up to 99 mph at 17 years old and ranked as the top pitcher signed in 2019....
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PJ,
They both are Mets. Because they was no season they basically signed and their “stock” remains stagnant (because they haven’t played). Ramirez may be the second best OF prospect in the system (that’s not saying a ton) but is intriguing. Dominguez received a small bonus as an “older” late riser and some question the upper 90’s velocity as other teams didn’t see that but who knows? As I said, haven’t played so it’s anyone’s guess. There were a bunch of bonus baby IFA P last signing period so without playing, it’s hard to accept Dominguez being “the top” or close to it. He got 95,000 to sign multiple arms got 1 million plus Link - ( New Window )
Thanks. Makes sense, sucks so much for these minor leaguers during COVID and it seems like they're going to lose another year. Not just the young IFA's missing valuable development/instructional time and the players who didn't get drafted because of the unusual draft, but players close to the majors who didn't get to play and make that final push.
RE: RE: RE: Gio is unlikely to command a guaranteed deal
I'd love to grab him to compete in camp with both Matz and Peterson. Ideally he wins the 5th spot and you can put Peterson in the minors as depth. He has always had very strong numbers in the NL East and maybe you can even get him on a deal where he's willing to go to the minors for the first few months if necessary like he did with the NYY a few years ago.
If he wins the spot then he's on the OD roster...Peterson is likely the 4th starter regardless. Remember it's going to be a couple of months before we get Thor back, so Peterson is the presumptive 4th starter on Opening Day.
I don't know who has the upper hand between Peterson and Matz. If the season started today they'd be the 4/5 in some order but I think they are going to bring in some arms to push them in ST and there's a decent enough chance Peterson gets beat out. I liked what we saw from him last year but I wouldn't exactly guarantee him a roster spot.
Matz lost his spot as a starter last season, with Peterson in the rotation and finishing the year as the starter, while putting up respectable numbers. I think that would reasonably give Peterson the upper hand, but I agree with you in that Peterson isn't going to be handed the job.
and I think they will both face competition beyond what's in the organization right now.
Both also are going to have to win their spots because there are advantages that may give an external addition a leg up (Peterson can be sent down, Matz can save them a lot of money cut before the season). If whoever they sign pitches well in ST and they'd be subject to waivers they may have a leg up.
1. Who is Lindal and what contract did the Mets give him?
2. The Williams trade is absolutely nothing like the Lindor trade. The Mets are currently contenders, so even in the worst case where the Mets fail to re-sign Lindor, they still get his services for all of this year, and assume they'll at least offer the QO and get a pick if he signs elsewhere.
and there's more, but you get the point.
I just wish there was a better fall back option in free agency for CF's... JBJ doesn't do it for me and once you get past him, you are talking about bringing back Marisnick or signing someone like Almora. Yuck!
Further, concerns regarding extending Lindor need to be tempered with the fact that the Mets now have the richest owner in baseball, who has already given indications that he is going to be a spender and won't even shy away from going over the luxury tax if not this year, then next or in the future.
And though I'm a big fan of Gimenez, Lindor is an enormous upgrade, he's one of the best players in the game. It's a home run trade.
And if Lindor does make it to free agency, there's a decent enough chance he comes back to the Mets as the high bidder. And if they're not, you're heading into a free agent period in which, as of now, Trevor Story, Carlos Correa, Corey Seager, and Javy Baez will all be hitting the market, with Mauricio perhaps 2 or 3 seasons away.
I just wish there was a better fall back option in free agency for CF's... JBJ doesn't do it for me and once you get past him, you are talking about bringing back Marisnick or signing someone like Almora. Yuck!
Sandy has mentioned how LH the lineup is on numerous occasions. I find it hard to believe JBJ will be a Met in 2021.
I just wish there was a better fall back option in free agency for CF's... JBJ doesn't do it for me and once you get past him, you are talking about bringing back Marisnick or signing someone like Almora. Yuck!
At this point, I'm hoping they get another middle infielder with a plus glove that can handle the bat, that would allow McNeil to play more outfield and improve the defense at least in LF as a late inning switch (Dom). They can still get a defense only glove for CF, I think, and then you're solid for late inning defense. I don't mind Nimmo in CF because the bat plays.
Honestly wouldn't mind bringing Droobs back, maybe he's a little long in the tooth but he's just such a solid all-around player and hits from both sides, can play 2nd and 3rd.
There are a lot of interesting names out there for infield, but I'm not up on most of their defensive chops.
Personally, I like them a lot right now. I think a big question still has to be answered about the DH in the NL for 2021. Because if there is a DH, getting Dom & Alonso in the lineup is huge. I'm sure they will have both in the lineup often anyway, with Dom in LF, but obviously the DH will allow them to have a better defensive outfield as well.
Regardless, I think the offense is terrific right now, and the late inning bullpen is really good, and the starters, at least 1 through 4, are competitive (I know I may be giving Peterson a little bit of leeway here).
I like them to win the East. I think the flaws of the other teams are much more glaring. I think the Braves losing Ozuna is going to hurt them. Right now, if Thor comes back and is at least very solid by the end of the season, I think they are World Series contenders.
Also see that Gio Gonzalez is making a 'pitch' to finish his career with the Mets. He's got McCann's Stamp of Approval going for him too.
Also see that Gio Gonzalez is making a 'pitch' to finish his career with the Mets. He's got McCann's Stamp of Approval going for him too.
the Mets signed 27, if I understand this page correctly from BA.
but as DMM pointed out, none highly regarded/ranked
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Also see that Gio Gonzalez is making a 'pitch' to finish his career with the Mets. He's got McCann's Stamp of Approval going for him too.
I don't think you can reasonably sign him with confidence that he's your 5th starter. Doesn't do much for me at this point. Meh.
I remember the names you mentioned obviously, but not these two, it's possible I tried to block 2019 out of my mind though.
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If he wins the spot then he's on the OD roster...Peterson is likely the 4th starter regardless. Remember it's going to be a couple of months before we get Thor back, so Peterson is the presumptive 4th starter on Opening Day.
I remember the names you mentioned obviously, but not these two, it's possible I tried to block 2019 out of my mind though.
Quote:
...The Mets paid out one of the biggest bonuses of the 2019 class to land Dominican center fielder Alexander Ramirez for $2.05 million. Later in the year, they signed Venezuelan righthander Robert Dominguez, a late riser who ran his fastball up to 99 mph at 17 years old and ranked as the top pitcher signed in 2019....
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PJ,
They both are Mets. Because they was no season they basically signed and their “stock” remains stagnant (because they haven’t played). Ramirez may be the second best OF prospect in the system (that’s not saying a ton) but is intriguing. Dominguez received a small bonus as an “older” late riser and some question the upper 90’s velocity as other teams didn’t see that but who knows? As I said, haven’t played so it’s anyone’s guess. There were a bunch of bonus baby IFA P last signing period so without playing, it’s hard to accept Dominguez being “the top” or close to it. He got 95,000 to sign multiple arms got 1 million plus
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I'd love to grab him to compete in camp with both Matz and Peterson. Ideally he wins the 5th spot and you can put Peterson in the minors as depth. He has always had very strong numbers in the NL East and maybe you can even get him on a deal where he's willing to go to the minors for the first few months if necessary like he did with the NYY a few years ago.
If he wins the spot then he's on the OD roster...Peterson is likely the 4th starter regardless. Remember it's going to be a couple of months before we get Thor back, so Peterson is the presumptive 4th starter on Opening Day.
I don't know who has the upper hand between Peterson and Matz. If the season started today they'd be the 4/5 in some order but I think they are going to bring in some arms to push them in ST and there's a decent enough chance Peterson gets beat out. I liked what we saw from him last year but I wouldn't exactly guarantee him a roster spot.
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I don't remember these guys, is this blurb from BA for the right team?
I remember the names you mentioned obviously, but not these two, it's possible I tried to block 2019 out of my mind though.
Quote:
...The Mets paid out one of the biggest bonuses of the 2019 class to land Dominican center fielder Alexander Ramirez for $2.05 million. Later in the year, they signed Venezuelan righthander Robert Dominguez, a late riser who ran his fastball up to 99 mph at 17 years old and ranked as the top pitcher signed in 2019....
link - ( New Window )
PJ,
They both are Mets. Because they was no season they basically signed and their “stock” remains stagnant (because they haven’t played). Ramirez may be the second best OF prospect in the system (that’s not saying a ton) but is intriguing. Dominguez received a small bonus as an “older” late riser and some question the upper 90’s velocity as other teams didn’t see that but who knows? As I said, haven’t played so it’s anyone’s guess. There were a bunch of bonus baby IFA P last signing period so without playing, it’s hard to accept Dominguez being “the top” or close to it. He got 95,000 to sign multiple arms got 1 million plus Link - ( New Window )
Thanks. Makes sense, sucks so much for these minor leaguers during COVID and it seems like they're going to lose another year. Not just the young IFA's missing valuable development/instructional time and the players who didn't get drafted because of the unusual draft, but players close to the majors who didn't get to play and make that final push.
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I'd love to grab him to compete in camp with both Matz and Peterson. Ideally he wins the 5th spot and you can put Peterson in the minors as depth. He has always had very strong numbers in the NL East and maybe you can even get him on a deal where he's willing to go to the minors for the first few months if necessary like he did with the NYY a few years ago.
If he wins the spot then he's on the OD roster...Peterson is likely the 4th starter regardless. Remember it's going to be a couple of months before we get Thor back, so Peterson is the presumptive 4th starter on Opening Day.
I don't know who has the upper hand between Peterson and Matz. If the season started today they'd be the 4/5 in some order but I think they are going to bring in some arms to push them in ST and there's a decent enough chance Peterson gets beat out. I liked what we saw from him last year but I wouldn't exactly guarantee him a roster spot.
Matz lost his spot as a starter last season, with Peterson in the rotation and finishing the year as the starter, while putting up respectable numbers. I think that would reasonably give Peterson the upper hand, but I agree with you in that Peterson isn't going to be handed the job.
Both also are going to have to win their spots because there are advantages that may give an external addition a leg up (Peterson can be sent down, Matz can save them a lot of money cut before the season). If whoever they sign pitches well in ST and they'd be subject to waivers they may have a leg up.