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NGT: If Watson gets out of Houston, where..

Producer : 1/17/2021 9:39 pm
does he land?

San Francisco?
New England?
Minny?
New Orleans?


Should the Giants get in on it?
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Jets  
BubbaMojo : 1/17/2021 9:40 pm : link
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Miami  
Eric on Li : 1/17/2021 9:42 pm : link
they can offer multiple 1sts including #3 plus Tua.

I could see Belichek going all in too but I don't think they have the draft ammo.
We don't have the ammo to land him.  
FStubbs : 1/17/2021 9:43 pm : link
My guess is Miami or Philadelphia.
does Watson  
Producer : 1/17/2021 9:44 pm : link
have any leverage to dictate?
I hope not  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/17/2021 9:44 pm : link
WFT
RE: We don't have the ammo to land him.  
Sammo85 : 1/17/2021 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15126480 FStubbs said:
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My guess is Miami or Philadelphia.


Philly cannot fit him in because of their cap disaster.
RE: Miami  
Sammo85 : 1/17/2021 9:48 pm : link
In comment 15126478 Eric on Li said:
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they can offer multiple 1sts including #3 plus Tua.

I could see Belichek going all in too but I don't think they have the draft ammo.


Agreed. I think it’s Miami or the Jets. I think Texans would prefer to trade him into NFC but they’ll take the best draft haul they can get.
He has a NTC  
robbieballs2003 : 1/17/2021 9:51 pm : link
Why the fuck would he wants to go to the Jets? And Watson has been pushing social justice and equality. He's pissed the Texans wouldn't interview Bienemy and Saleh. So he's ginna force a trade to the shitty Jets with an owner who has made racist comments? Also, he wants to win. Again, how is that the Jets. The Jets will be used to increase the the draft compensation from a team like Miami or SF imo.
The Giants should 100% be in on it  
Go Terps : 1/17/2021 9:56 pm : link
There's nothing on the roster that shouldn't be considered.
RE: He has a NTC  
pjcas18 : 1/17/2021 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15126494 robbieballs2003 said:
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Why the fuck would he wants to go to the Jets? And Watson has been pushing social justice and equality. He's pissed the Texans wouldn't interview Bienemy and Saleh. So he's ginna force a trade to the shitty Jets with an owner who has made racist comments? Also, he wants to win. Again, how is that the Jets. The Jets will be used to increase the the draft compensation from a team like Miami or SF imo.


Bienemy said he won't interview while KC is still playing, it has nothing to do with McNair or Caserio.

From what i read if they don't hire a coach before the SB (assuming KC wins next week) they plan to interview bienemy.

They have interviewed 4 candidates so far, two are black.

RE: He has a NTC  
Sammo85 : 1/17/2021 9:58 pm : link
In comment 15126494 robbieballs2003 said:
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Why the fuck would he wants to go to the Jets? And Watson has been pushing social justice and equality. He's pissed the Texans wouldn't interview Bienemy and Saleh. So he's ginna force a trade to the shitty Jets with an owner who has made racist comments? Also, he wants to win. Again, how is that the Jets. The Jets will be used to increase the the draft compensation from a team like Miami or SF imo.


It’s not outlandish and it’s coming from his camp not the Texans. He is a big fan of Saleh and LaFleur. Jets have tons of cap space and would probably let him pick some weapons to bring in on offense. Jets are desperate enough they’d probably let him run the team which seems to be what he wants.
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Mdgiantsfan : 1/17/2021 9:59 pm : link
I would not be upset if Big Blue could get into the Watson talk, but that contract is probably prohibitive.

RE: The Giants should 100% be in on it  
Saquads26 : 1/17/2021 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15126502 Go Terps said:
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There's nothing on the roster that shouldn't be considered.


Nah we should trade for Lamar and extend him, what a stud🤣
Heard on BBI  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/17/2021 10:00 pm : link
That we should trade Daniel Jones for Watson straight up. Also the Texans should throw in a draft pick because we’re taking on his contract. LMFAO.
Read something online, so its obviously bull, but it said  
PatersonPlank : 1/17/2021 10:01 pm : link
the Jets give Houston their #1, #2 next year, #1 in 2023, and #1 in 2024. Obviously speculation, but it will take a massive pkg
mY PREDICTION  
NewBlue : 1/17/2021 10:04 pm : link
He ends up in Houston
RE: RE: He has a NTC  
robbieballs2003 : 1/17/2021 10:05 pm : link
In comment 15126506 Sammo85 said:
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In comment 15126494 robbieballs2003 said:


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Why the fuck would he wants to go to the Jets? And Watson has been pushing social justice and equality. He's pissed the Texans wouldn't interview Bienemy and Saleh. So he's ginna force a trade to the shitty Jets with an owner who has made racist comments? Also, he wants to win. Again, how is that the Jets. The Jets will be used to increase the the draft compensation from a team like Miami or SF imo.



It’s not outlandish and it’s coming from his camp not the Texans. He is a big fan of Saleh and LaFleur. Jets have tons of cap space and would probably let him pick some weapons to bring in on offense. Jets are desperate enough they’d probably let him run the team which seems to be what he wants.


I disagree with this. He wanted Saleh interviewed by the Texans. That's a far cry from thinking he is going to be great at running a franchise. The Jets have cap room before they take on his contract. Also, the only reason he wants to be included in the hiring of a a coach is because he was told by ownership that they would do that for him. He's not going to the Jets because he wants to run the team. I don't buy that at all. He wants to win first and foremost. Why force his way from one shitty franchise to another? Doesn't make sense to me. I doubt Watson is sitting at home saying fuck the Texans. What team can I go to? Oh, I know, the Jets.
RE: RE: The Giants should 100% be in on it  
Go Terps : 1/17/2021 10:05 pm : link
In comment 15126511 Saquads26 said:
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There's nothing on the roster that shouldn't be considered.



Nah we should trade for Lamar and extend him, what a stud🤣


Can we, please?
RE: Read something online, so its obviously bull, but it said  
Sammo85 : 1/17/2021 10:06 pm : link
In comment 15126514 PatersonPlank said:
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the Jets give Houston their #1, #2 next year, #1 in 2023, and #1 in 2024. Obviously speculation, but it will take a massive pkg


I don’t think you can trade future picks that far out behind next years. It would probably cost the #2, a 2nd rounder this year, the 1 next year and probably include Darnold and a couple other mid round picks and pick swaps next year. Keep in mind Jets have Seattle’s 1 this year and next.

RE: RE: RE: The Giants should 100% be in on it  
Saquads26 : 1/17/2021 10:06 pm : link
In comment 15126521 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15126502 Go Terps said:


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There's nothing on the roster that shouldn't be considered.



Nah we should trade for Lamar and extend him, what a stud🤣



Can we, please?


No, he's complete trash and can't complete a sentence.
RE: The Giants should 100% be in on it  
dpinzow : 1/17/2021 10:06 pm : link
In comment 15126502 Go Terps said:
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There's nothing on the roster that shouldn't be considered.


Now this I agree with, but I don't think we have the best offer unless we gave up like 3 1st round picks
What has Watson done that’s so great  
eric2425ny : 1/17/2021 10:07 pm : link
He’s a good player, but I wouldn’t give up the farm to get him.
If we aren't in on this...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 10:07 pm : link
it's a dereliction of duty by Gettleman.

Watson is a great QB who is only 25. Daniel Jones is about to turn 24.

I would give up Jones, Barkley, and at least one first.
RE: What has Watson done that’s so great  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15126527 eric2425ny said:
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He’s a good player, but I wouldn’t give up the farm to get him.


Let's review these career #s to date:

68% completion rate, 70+ QBR, an outstanding 8.3 YPA, and 104/36 TD/INT.

That's just good???
RE: If we aren't in on this...  
Go Terps : 1/17/2021 10:12 pm : link
In comment 15126528 bw in dc said:
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it's a dereliction of duty by Gettleman.

Watson is a great QB who is only 25. Daniel Jones is about to turn 24.

I would give up Jones, Barkley, and at least one first.


That ain't getting it done. If it did, run to the phone before Houston changes their minds.
Wins baby wins  
Carl in CT : 1/17/2021 10:13 pm : link
BBI knocks Jones for every Giant Loss. So Watson in BBI’s opinion is worse than Jones.0
RE: We don't have the ammo to land him.  
djm : 1/17/2021 10:13 pm : link
In comment 15126480 FStubbs said:
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My guess is Miami or Philadelphia.


Why does Philly or even Miami have the ammo but not the giants ?

And why does tua have all this value while jones doesn’t? Wtf has tua shown?
RE: RE: If we aren't in on this...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15126535 Go Terps said:
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it's a dereliction of duty by Gettleman.

Watson is a great QB who is only 25. Daniel Jones is about to turn 24.

I would give up Jones, Barkley, and at least one first.



That ain't getting it done. If it did, run to the phone before Houston changes their minds.


Always start a bit low... ;)

Then go BAFO.

Seriously, what else would you add in?
The price would start at Jones, 11th pick & 2022 first..  
Sean : 1/17/2021 10:14 pm : link
Probably would take more though.
RE: RE: RE: If we aren't in on this...  
Go Terps : 1/17/2021 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15126545 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15126528 bw in dc said:


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it's a dereliction of duty by Gettleman.

Watson is a great QB who is only 25. Daniel Jones is about to turn 24.

I would give up Jones, Barkley, and at least one first.



That ain't getting it done. If it did, run to the phone before Houston changes their minds.



Always start a bit low... ;)

Then go BAFO.

Seriously, what else would you add in?


Jones, Barkley, 2 firsts maybe gets it done. Given Gettleman's track record with first round picks I'm fine making that deal.
RE: ...  
djm : 1/17/2021 10:17 pm : link
In comment 15126509 Mdgiantsfan said:
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I would not be upset if Big Blue could get into the Watson talk, but that contract is probably prohibitive.


Huh?? The contract isn’t a factor at all. He’s a highly paid star qb. He should be highly paid. If the giants don’t want Watson because of his contract we might as well pack it up and follow another sport.
RE: RE: RE: If we aren't in on this...  
Producer : 1/17/2021 10:17 pm : link
In comment 15126545 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15126528 bw in dc said:


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it's a dereliction of duty by Gettleman.

Watson is a great QB who is only 25. Daniel Jones is about to turn 24.

I would give up Jones, Barkley, and at least one first.



That ain't getting it done. If it did, run to the phone before Houston changes their minds.



Always start a bit low... ;)

Then go BAFO.

Seriously, what else would you add in?


I agree that wouldn't get it done.

But why would Watson agree to come to the Giants if he has a NT clause.
Why would the Texans want Barkley?  
Sean : 1/17/2021 10:18 pm : link
He’s coming off a major knee injury and heading into his 4th year of his rookie contract. No way the Texans would want him.
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Producer : 1/17/2021 10:18 pm : link
In comment 15126550 djm said:
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In comment 15126509 Mdgiantsfan said:


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I would not be upset if Big Blue could get into the Watson talk, but that contract is probably prohibitive.




Huh?? The contract isn’t a factor at all. He’s a highly paid star qb. He should be highly paid. If the giants don’t want Watson because of his contract we might as well pack it up and follow another sport.


truly. they don't want to pay a stud QB bc they make too much? I ask them, do they like watching playoff games?
RE: Why would the Texans want Barkley?  
Go Terps : 1/17/2021 10:23 pm : link
In comment 15126554 Sean said:
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He’s coming off a major knee injury and heading into his 4th year of his rookie contract. No way the Texans would want him.


Name value? I don't know why they would either. Doing this exercise shows how bare the cupboard is. Why would they want Jones?
RE: Why would the Texans want Barkley?  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15126554 Sean said:
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He’s coming off a major knee injury and heading into his 4th year of his rookie contract. No way the Texans would want him.


You may be right. But it would be my opening salvo.

Like Terps just said, the Texans could use help putting asses in seats. If SB checks out health wise - in terms of where he is in the process - maybe the Texas bite...

The Texans aren't the brightest bulb in the league chandelier.
Barkley is a very good player..  
Sean : 1/17/2021 10:26 pm : link
But the Texans would need to make a tough decision to pay him a year in. Jones & Darnold are pretty much the same, it’s about the draft picks that would come with it.
I think Miami  
Eman11 : 1/17/2021 10:27 pm : link
and then SF but don’t know their cap situation,

Miami looks like they have enough to get the deal done, just depends on how they feel about Tua,

If they’re sold on him, they keep pass on Watson, keep all their picks and build around him. If not, trade him and some of those picks to get Watson. They definitely have enough to get it done if they want.
RE: RE: RE: RE: If we aren't in on this...  
bw in dc : 1/17/2021 10:30 pm : link
In comment 15126552 Producer said:
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I agree that wouldn't get it done.

But why would Watson agree to come to the Giants if he has a NT clause.


Fair question.

I would counter it's the NY market - and I get that that is a bit overrated - and the Giants are a flagship org.
RE: Heard on BBI  
81_Great_Dane : 1/17/2021 10:33 pm : link
In comment 15126513 JoeyBigBlue said:
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That we should trade Daniel Jones for Watson straight up. Also the Texans should throw in a draft pick because we’re taking on his contract. LMFAO.
MAKE IT HAPPEN, DAVE!!!
RE: RE: What has Watson done that’s so great  
santacruzom : 1/17/2021 10:35 pm : link
In comment 15126532 bw in dc said:
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He’s a good player, but I wouldn’t give up the farm to get him.



Let's review these career #s to date:

68% completion rate, 70+ QBR, an outstanding 8.3 YPA, and 104/36 TD/INT.

That's just good???


Yeah but he's only 1-2 in the playoffs, so there's clearly a contingent here who believes he's no good.
RE: Heard on BBI  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/17/2021 10:41 pm : link
In comment 15126513 JoeyBigBlue said:
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That we should trade Daniel Jones for Watson straight up. Also the Texans should throw in a draft pick because we’re taking on his contract. LMFAO.


And whoever thinks I’m lying here is the thread
2nd post on this thread - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Heard on BBI  
Producer : 1/17/2021 10:58 pm : link
In comment 15126577 JoeyBigBlue said:
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In comment 15126513 JoeyBigBlue said:


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That we should trade Daniel Jones for Watson straight up. Also the Texans should throw in a draft pick because we’re taking on his contract. LMFAO.



And whoever thinks I’m lying here is the thread 2nd post on this thread - ( New Window )


Why would we do that when we can get Mahomes and Kelce for Jones? After all, Jones is on a rookie deal and he's the goods, going to be a perennial top-10 QB.
RE: Jets  
montanagiant : 1/17/2021 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15126471 BubbaMojo said:
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That would be the smartest move the Jets could make, therefore it won't ever happen.
He is signed for five years.  
St. Jimmy : 1/17/2021 11:22 pm : link
I don't see why Houston would trade him. Even if Houston announced they were going to trade him, I would be shocked if the Giants were the team to trade for him.
How about Dallas  
fanatic II : 1/17/2021 11:25 pm : link
Dallas trades Amari Cooper(age 26), Ezekiel Elliott(age 25) and two number ones for Watson.

Dallas then places the non exclusive tag on Prescott. Prescott can then shop around and with all the QB openings this year he will be able to get the deal he wants and Dallas will recoup their two number ones.

Or Dallas can do a sign and trade with Houston for Prescott, Elliott, and Cooper for Watson.

Dallas has 10 draft picks this year, including two 3rds, two 4ths, and two 5ths. With that draft capital they could start to restructure their roster.
RE: How about Dallas  
montanagiant : 1/18/2021 12:05 am : link
In comment 15126597 fanatic II said:
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Dallas trades Amari Cooper(age 26), Ezekiel Elliott(age 25) and two number ones for Watson.

Dallas then places the non exclusive tag on Prescott. Prescott can then shop around and with all the QB openings this year he will be able to get the deal he wants and Dallas will recoup their two number ones.

Or Dallas can do a sign and trade with Houston for Prescott, Elliott, and Cooper for Watson.

Dallas has 10 draft picks this year, including two 3rds, two 4ths, and two 5ths. With that draft capital they could start to restructure their roster.

That would pretty much gut the Cowboys core which I would be all for
RE: He is signed for five years.  
Saquads26 : 1/18/2021 1:06 am : link
In comment 15126596 St. Jimmy said:
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I don't see why Houston would trade him. Even if Houston announced they were going to trade him, I would be shocked if the Giants were the team to trade for him.


This could be why...

Also on NFL Countdown, Chris Mortensen noted a source said “that unless [Texans CEO] Cal McNair can fire himself, Deshaun Watson is not about to change his mind that he does not want anything to do with the Texans going forward.”
RE: RE: RE: The Giants should 100% be in on it  
The Truth : 1/18/2021 1:19 am : link
In comment 15126521 Go Terps said:
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There's nothing on the roster that shouldn't be considered.



Nah we should trade for Lamar and extend him, what a stud🤣



Can we, please?


Every gman fan would be on cloud 9 if we had LJ, but there's no chance we can land a perennial MVP candidate obviously.
RE: RE: RE: RE: The Giants should 100% be in on it  
Saquads26 : 1/18/2021 1:52 am : link
In comment 15126620 The Truth said:
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In comment 15126502 Go Terps said:


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There's nothing on the roster that shouldn't be considered.



Nah we should trade for Lamar and extend him, what a stud🤣



Can we, please?



Every gman fan would be on cloud 9 if we had LJ, but there's no chance we can land a perennial MVP candidate obviously.


Perennial postseason pathetic choker!
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