Ravens cutting Mark Ingram

will the Giants be bringing back the Wayne train? I agree that Ingram would be a good late career fit for this Giants team. Can we have both?

and we don't need both but in the event that Gallman leaves, I wouldn't mind Ingram as an alternative.

that will either retire or be forced to pay for a lot less than the 5 mil he got in 2020.

May have made himself a pricier option in '21 after the few big games he had. Ingram is 31, but in a part time role he could be the compliment to Barkley.

I think both will cost too much for our needs. Draft one and sign a cheap one who can hang on to the ball and run north and south. Just no more Dijon Lewis.

to start, or at least be able to count on a larger share of the work than he’ll get with Saquon healthy. RB is a need, both in the draft and FA.

I’ve always liked Ingram, but not sure how much he has left. He’s 31, and kinda got buried by the Ravens this season.

was a healthy scratch often this season, I think he's toast.

Plus a lot of options.

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Mark Ingram joins a potentially strong free agent RB class:

Aaron Jones (GB, 26)
Chris Carson (SEA, 26)
Phillip Lindsay (DEN, 26)
James Conner (PIT, 25)
Kenyan Drake (ARZ, 26)
Todd Gurley (ATL, 26)
Marlon Mack (IND, 24)
James White (NE, 28)
Leonard Fournette (TB, 26)

In comment 15127407 pjcas18 said:

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was a healthy scratch often this season, I think he's toast. Plus a lot of options. Spotrac @spotrac · 1h Mark Ingram joins a potentially strong free agent RB class: Aaron Jones (GB, 26) Chris Carson (SEA, 26) Phillip Lindsay (DEN, 26) James Conner (PIT, 25) Kenyan Drake (ARZ, 26) Todd Gurley (ATL, 26) Marlon Mack (IND, 24) James White (NE, 28) Leonard Fournette (TB, 26)

Half these guys in their mid twenties and are already burnt.... RB life is short short

...maybe not Jonathan Steward toast, but close.

The Giants can draft a quality backup RB in the 3rd or 4th round, or even pick up a guy on someone else's practice squad. Why would you want the Giants to spend money on an injury prone 31 year old UFA RB?

but one of the reasons he was a healthy scratch was because his contract guaranteed him money if he got hurt and the Ravens didn't want to risk having to pay him. Being a healthy scratch may have prolonged his career.

I don't think there's much tread left. It was obvious that he would be cut. They drafted Dobbins, Edwards is talented, and his contract made him an easy cut with very little dead money next year.

He would be a $6M or so 3rd string, 31 year old RB on that team, so yeah, the writing was all over the wall.

I wouldn't be interested in him if I'm Gettleman, but hell, Gettleman gave Stewart good money so you never know.

But

And hopefully not us. Not much interest in Ingram though at his age, maybe for close to the minimum if he wants to come back to where he was born (Jersey).

The Golden Tate release already? Nice of the Ravens to do this so Ingram can get a head start looking for a job.

Every time i hear his name i flash back to his dad.

In comment 15127442 kes722 said:

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Every time i hear his name i flash back to his dad.

No SB25 with out him - ( New Window )

Ingram is cooked. No burst anymore.


I think the best option is to bring back Gallman (for the right price of course) and draft a guy with one of the day 3 picks to compete

No I’d be looking for somebody whose best days are still ahead of them.

Loved what he did for us but I think he showed himself to be a good backup at best. And he’s not an especially good receiver either. Glad to have him back but I think there will be lots of options.

look to the draft and an end of FA RB depth if necessary

As someone else stated you can get Gallman's production from a late round draft pick

Younger is always hungrier & cheaper

The Giants (all coaching staffs) have refused to feature the kid. He goes to the Packers, he becomes a star in the league.

Ingram I don't think is a fit. We need better as a #2, and as a #3 I want more versatility. Now if injuries happen midseason and he is still out there like a Freeman or Morris, then yeah you take what you can get.


I really do want Gallman back. I'd also add a brusier in the draft. Would love N Harris, but he'll be too expensive. Maybe someone like Trey Sermon from Ohio state.

are mostly his own : the big one is not consistently running with authority out there, and it's visible. It's the main reason he doesn't always get the carries or they go to Morris because Alfred busts his arse out there. Not to mention Garrett frequently goes away from the run in general. Also, ball security, missing pass blocks, and sometimes looking like he's mentally checked out.

the Giants should be looking to draft an RB after the 5th round this year in addition to some UDFA/practice squad types.

I also wouldn't waste the money on resigning Gallman.

You can't sign everyone to high dollar FA deals and you have to get production out of cheap players. RB is a place you almost HAVE to do it.

In comment 15127580 JonC said:

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are mostly his own : the big one is not consistently running with authority out there, and it's visible. It's the main reason he doesn't always get the carries or they go to Morris because Alfred busts his arse out there. Not to mention Garrett frequently goes away from the run in general. Also, ball security, missing pass blocks, and sometimes looking like he's mentally checked out.

I saw the opposite. Gallman was always running hard. He was constantly pushing for extra yardage and routinely fell forward at the end of runs to get whatever extra he could. He just doesn't have the explosive burst needed to really break runs in the NFL. But his lack of explosion doesn't detract from his effort. His pass blocking also looked fine to me.

My guess is that he goes elsewhere. He'll likely want more carries than he'll get when Saquon returns. Another team may also offer him more than the Giants want to pay.

I have no interest in Ingram. I think he's got something left, but will be too expensive.

He was a healthy scratch the last few games and in the playoffs, losing out not just to Dobbins but also Gus Edwards. I don't see what this aging guy bring us. Much rather keep Gallman if we can

In comment 15127680 PatersonPlank said:

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He was a healthy scratch the last few games and in the playoffs, losing out not just to Dobbins but also Gus Edwards. I don't see what this aging guy bring us. Much rather keep Gallman if we can

I think Lindsey would be interesting. He is a good 3rd type guy who can also carry the ball.

on passing downs. Lewis and Gallman missed a ton of blocks last year. That aspect of a RB is sorely overlooked at times. I don't think Ingram is a guy they will look at.

I just don't think there's going to be much of a market for any of them with the cap going down.

In comment 15127580 JonC said:

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are mostly his own : the big one is not consistently running with authority out there, and it's visible. It's the main reason he doesn't always get the carries or they go to Morris because Alfred busts his arse out there. Not to mention Garrett frequently goes away from the run in general. Also, ball security, missing pass blocks, and sometimes looking like he's mentally checked out.

You have no patience for players that do not get everything out of their talent. I agree.

Flashes of effort and vision, and a player I rooted for, but don't think he'll be back. Drake is an intriguing player although I haven't really watched him since he was at Bama. Not really what we need to spell 26. Goddamn I miss Earth, Wind & Fire (and the line they ran behind).

In comment 15127702 Dnew15 said:

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I just don't think there's going to be much of a market for any of them with the cap going down.

I really like Chris Carson. Guy runs hard and tough - inside and outside. And he's a competent receiver. Had some injury issues this year, but what a nice 7th round find this was for Seattle.

I would guess he stays in Seattle. If not, someone is going to get a good back probably at a decent price...

In comment 15127669 AcidTest said:

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In comment 15127580 JonC said: Quote: are mostly his own : the big one is not consistently running with authority out there, and it's visible. It's the main reason he doesn't always get the carries or they go to Morris because Alfred busts his arse out there. Not to mention Garrett frequently goes away from the run in general. Also, ball security, missing pass blocks, and sometimes looking like he's mentally checked out. I saw the opposite. Gallman was always running hard. He was constantly pushing for extra yardage and routinely fell forward at the end of runs to get whatever extra he could. He just doesn't have the explosive burst needed to really break runs in the NFL. But his lack of explosion doesn't detract from his effort. His pass blocking also looked fine to me. My guess is that he goes elsewhere. He'll likely want more carries than he'll get when Saquon returns. Another team may also offer him more than the Giants want to pay. I have no interest in Ingram. I think he's got something left, but will be too expensive.

I came to 2020 as a Gall,am Fan. He ran very well. I was very disappointed in his Pass Bocking..... He misses too many assignments and he gets beat on too many. He needs to develop to rfecognize and excecute B locking assignments and adjustments. He also needs to develop further as a pass catcher.

PS....this offense needs more passing and more variety in the passing to RB's

In comment 15127669 AcidTest said:

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In comment 15127580 JonC said: Quote: are mostly his own : the big one is not consistently running with authority out there, and it's visible. It's the main reason he doesn't always get the carries or they go to Morris because Alfred busts his arse out there. Not to mention Garrett frequently goes away from the run in general. Also, ball security, missing pass blocks, and sometimes looking like he's mentally checked out. I saw the opposite. Gallman was always running hard. He was constantly pushing for extra yardage and routinely fell forward at the end of runs to get whatever extra he could. He just doesn't have the explosive burst needed to really break runs in the NFL. But his lack of explosion doesn't detract from his effort. His pass blocking also looked fine to me. My guess is that he goes elsewhere. He'll likely want more carries than he'll get when Saquon returns. Another team may also offer him more than the Giants want to pay. I have no interest in Ingram. I think he's got something left, but will be too expensive.

Gallman runs hard at times, and other times he doesn't. It's what gets him yanked from games, trust me on this. The difference between full effort and the opposite is also pretty easy to see, he runs like a man possessed when he's engaged and busting his arse.