it doesn’t seem like you read the full article. Because he didn’t stop when she actually said ok dude that’s enough. He actually sent her MORE texts after that. He didn’t stop. He sent multiple messages. He sent her a pic from Dodger stadium after that. Jesus dude. Why the fuck do you think he did that? Because he was hoping that she’d respond, but she didn’t. We get it man. Obviously a lot of the time women are definitely using this shit to their advantage but guess what, a lot of times they aren’t, and it’s 2020 dude. Sorry but you can’t be a GM of a baseball team and behave this way. Nobody is saying he shouldn’t be forgiven or be able to work in sports. It’s all good there.
But you’re getting really defensive about this and it’s weird.
You know why? I've met girls like this. I've seen other women try to destroy a man's life. Women like this are cold-hearted. They prey upon men, they act so innocent and they don't care the damage that is done to the man's life, as long as they look like an innocent victim who was wronged by the horrible surly man, when they are just as responsible.
I've shared a personal story on here before I think about this kind of girl, and happy to do it again.
I know a guy who was falsely accused of rape/sexual assault (not me, though it could have easily been me). Until you've been on that side of a woman who you think likes you and then broadsides you with accusations to the entire world that could basically ruin your life, you really don't understand.
it doesn’t seem like you read the full article. Because he didn’t stop when she actually said ok dude that’s enough. He actually sent her MORE texts after that. He didn’t stop. He sent multiple messages. He sent her a pic from Dodger stadium after that. Jesus dude. Why the fuck do you think he did that? Because he was hoping that she’d respond, but she didn’t. We get it man. Obviously a lot of the time women are definitely using this shit to their advantage but guess what, a lot of times they aren’t, and it’s 2020 dude. Sorry but you can’t be a GM of a baseball team and behave this way. Nobody is saying he shouldn’t be forgiven or be able to work in sports. It’s all good there.
But you’re getting really defensive about this and it’s weird.
it doesn’t seem like you read the full article. Because he didn’t stop when she actually said ok dude that’s enough. He actually sent her MORE texts after that. He didn’t stop. He sent multiple messages. He sent her a pic from Dodger stadium after that. Jesus dude. Why the fuck do you think he did that? Because he was hoping that she’d respond, but she didn’t. We get it man. Obviously a lot of the time women are definitely using this shit to their advantage but guess what, a lot of times they aren’t, and it’s 2020 dude. Sorry but you can’t be a GM of a baseball team and behave this way. Nobody is saying he shouldn’t be forgiven or be able to work in sports. It’s all good there.
But you’re getting really defensive about this and it’s weird.
You know why? I've met girls like this. I've seen other women try to destroy a man's life. Women like this are cold-hearted. They prey upon men, they act so innocent and they don't care the damage that is done to the man's life, as long as they look like an innocent victim who was wronged by the horrible surly man, when they are just as responsible.
I've shared a personal story on here before I think about this kind of girl, and happy to do it again.
I know a guy who was falsely accused of rape/sexual assault (not me, though it could have easily been me). Until you've been on that side of a woman who you think likes you and then broadsides you with accusations to the entire world that could basically ruin your life, you really don't understand.
Jim, I am sorry that happened to you. That sucks to have that happen. But it’s also not okay for the guy who has the upper hand in the situation to take advantage either. And that’s what’s happening here as well.
Cool man, what the fuck does that even mean? First of all, you don’t know this woman, you don’t even know who the fuck she is! Secondly, nobody gives a shit if you’ve met shitty women. It’s not some special card that you get to have in order to seem smart about this conversation.
Again, you’re just not getting it. It can’t be explained to you, and you aren’t willing to be understanding about the issue at hand. So we can just drop it.
Cool man, what the fuck does that even mean? First of all, you don’t know this woman, you don’t even know who the fuck she is! Secondly, nobody gives a shit if you’ve met shitty women. It’s not some special card that you get to have in order to seem smart about this conversation.
Yeah it is. This is what she did...led him on until she decided otherwise, didn't tell him, and then he's wondering wtf happened, maybe something happened, maybe I can save the situation, whatever, and all she has to say is she's not interested and not to text her. And "power of her"? That's some shit right there. He's not her boss. They don't work for the same company. She was a member of the press...who REALLY has the power there? It ain't him, and this story is proof of that.
Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
my man. You dying on this very specific hill when it comes to a young GM who appears to be *maybe* a slimeball kinda dude, is just weird.
And I’d be willing to bet my mortgage that he’s done this to other women. Anyone with half a fucking brain would agree with that. Which again, is NOT a crime, it’s just shitty sexual behavior that just doesn’t jive with the current times
Do this to men, men just kinda have to take it and move on. There is a double standard but guess what, that’s the world we live in and women have had to deal with shit like this since the dawn of time. For every 1 woman who does it there are 100 men. It doesn’t even out dude.
His texts show poor judgment and a serious lack of understanding about the appropriate way to treat women that you have a professional relationship with.
Nobody like that should be in charge of any kind of organization.
His texts show poor judgment and a serious lack of understanding about the appropriate way to treat women that you have a professional relationship with.
Nobody like that should be in charge of any kind of organization.
Gary, love the logic. But Jim’s point is he made a great trade and women can lie.
I was around 19-20 years old, and I took this girl out on a date that I really liked. I made my intentions clear, I wanted to take her on a date.
We had really great romantic chemistry on the date. She sat on my lap in a park after and we ended up kissing. I didn't have anything else planned to do at this point of the date, so I asked her what she wanted to do. She said, "I want to go to your place."
We go to my house, and we start messing around. A lot of passion, heavy petting, but this was our first date and she was 17, I think. Things were getting really intense, but I purposefully kept things in the living room rather than go to the bedroom because I thought it was too soon. Now, there's a lot of hand play, I'm touching her boobs and stuff under her shirt, we're both hot and heavy. She looks me right in the eyes and says, "what do you want me to do to you." That is verbatim. Which took me aback a bit, and then she looked down, obviously I'm stiff as a board.
I said, "you can touch it." She reaches in my pants and starts giving me a handy. I stopped things very shortly after that because I didn't want to have sex with her on the first date, I really felt it would ruin things and I really liked her, I wanted to try to have a relationship with her. So after I said let's cool down, and a bit after that she asked if I could take her home, it was in the wee hours of the morning and we'd be going at it for awhile, and obviously she still lived with her parents.
I take her home and we're sitting in my car, and she says, "I FEEL LIKE YOU TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ME."
I was flabbergasted. Blind-sided. Someone who was totally into the throes with me, and probably would've fucked me silly if I didn't slow things down, and she says something that scared the daylights out of me. When a girl says that, what does it mean? Does it mean she's going to accuse you of sexual assault? Because what actually happened was in that moment, she felt guilty for taking things that far, and felt slutty, and decided it was my fault.
We knew all the same people. Was she going to merely just damage my reputation or make a serious accusation? I didn't know, but I knew right then I was scared shitless of her and never wanted to see her again in an instant.
I really can't explain that feeling in that moment. But I'll never act like a woman doesn't have her own agency. You guys are acting like she was some damsel in distress, and by doing that you rob her of her own agency and responsibility in what happened. That's bullshit, and if you were a true "feminist" you wouldn't act like she was powerless when she truly wasn't. Thanks if you read this far.
Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
Yes, you and I know that. But guess what, some guys are socially retarded when it comes to women. And I mean socially retarded in the literal sense. He just might be really, really bad at this and great at baseball stuff. There might be a reason he's still single.
I was around 19-20 years old, and I took this girl out on a date that I really liked. I made my intentions clear, I wanted to take her on a date.
We had really great romantic chemistry on the date. She sat on my lap in a park after and we ended up kissing. I didn't have anything else planned to do at this point of the date, so I asked her what she wanted to do. She said, "I want to go to your place."
We go to my house, and we start messing around. A lot of passion, heavy petting, but this was our first date and she was 17, I think. Things were getting really intense, but I purposefully kept things in the living room rather than go to the bedroom because I thought it was too soon. Now, there's a lot of hand play, I'm touching her boobs and stuff under her shirt, we're both hot and heavy. She looks me right in the eyes and says, "what do you want me to do to you." That is verbatim. Which took me aback a bit, and then she looked down, obviously I'm stiff as a board.
I said, "you can touch it." She reaches in my pants and starts giving me a handy. I stopped things very shortly after that because I didn't want to have sex with her on the first date, I really felt it would ruin things and I really liked her, I wanted to try to have a relationship with her. So after I said let's cool down, and a bit after that she asked if I could take her home, it was in the wee hours of the morning and we'd be going at it for awhile, and obviously she still lived with her parents.
I take her home and we're sitting in my car, and she says, "I FEEL LIKE YOU TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ME."
I was flabbergasted. Blind-sided. Someone who was totally into the throes with me, and probably would've fucked me silly if I didn't slow things down, and she says something that scared the daylights out of me. When a girl says that, what does it mean? Does it mean she's going to accuse you of sexual assault? Because what actually happened was in that moment, she felt guilty for taking things that far, and felt slutty, and decided it was my fault.
We knew all the same people. Was she going to merely just damage my reputation or make a serious accusation? I didn't know, but I knew right then I was scared shitless of her and never wanted to see her again in an instant.
I really can't explain that feeling in that moment. But I'll never act like a woman doesn't have her own agency. You guys are acting like she was some damsel in distress, and by doing that you rob her of her own agency and responsibility in what happened. That's bullshit, and if you were a true "feminist" you wouldn't act like she was powerless when she truly wasn't. Thanks if you read this far.
Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
Yes, you and I know that. But guess what, some guys are socially retarded when it comes to women. And I mean socially retarded in the literal sense. He just might be really, really bad at this and great at baseball stuff. There might be a reason he's still single.
The man side of your brain functions, Jim. The other side does not. I think the story you just mentioned is messing with you and interfering with future relationships with women.
and it’s not entirely flattering to her. At the very least she was painfully naive. Did she deliberately lead him on? From an American perspective it sure looks that way.
Also, let’s think about this: How many countries send reporters to the US to cover baseball? Could be Latin American, more likely East Asian. If she is from Korea, Japan or Taiwan I can easily believe that that she was confused. That is a big cultural gap.
When I was single I tried to date some Asian immigrant girls. It never worked, partly because they seemed to have very different notions of how I was supposed to behave and what I should do to pursue them.
As for him, well, the crotch pics and dick pic are WAYYY out of line. Yeah it’s a long-Ish time ago. I don’t know what the Mets should do. But in a PR-sensitive business he has a big problem and so does his employer.
Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
Yes, you and I know that. But guess what, some guys are socially retarded when it comes to women. And I mean socially retarded in the literal sense. He just might be really, really bad at this and great at baseball stuff. There might be a reason he's still single.
The man side of your brain functions, Jim. The other side does not. I think the story you just mentioned is messing with you and interfering with future relationships with women.
I've been happily married for 13 years now. And I'd bet a thousand bucks my wife would call out this chick quicker than me.
And some of you need to learn what harassment is. Sending 60 unanswered texts is embarrassing and cringey. But unless she asked him to stop and he continued, that's not harassment. When she asked him to stop, he apologized, acknowledged her, and stopped. Ok, there was an extra pic of Dodger Stadium, which is weird, but then he truly stopped contacting her. There was zero sexual texts after she asked him to stop. Zero attempts at trying get more responses from her. In the end, he did the right thing by cutting off contact with her, honoring her wishes.
She should've done that as soon as she realized he wanted something that she didn't, but instead, she misled him, saying things like she wanted more pics of him and asking if he was married. You don't do that to a dude when you aren't interested, period. And because she has agency and she's a full-grown woman, she needs to fucking own her shit and you guys need to stop excusing her for it.
You raise a good point about her not sending a cease and desist text, She may very well have been thinking
Maybe I can use this to My Advantage some day
But the thing is even if she was an operator, he still fell for it. If she did not respond to numerous texts that is a clear negative signal,’You cannot send a pornographic picture
It may not represent who he is, Might have been a stupid drunken text. But he is still going to get nailed in terms of public perception
I am not of the belief this should be a death sentence
I am the first to admit men do stupid things when they start thinking with their small head.....
she gave enough to misinterpret...with some mixed signals...based on language or whatever....and he took it and ran with it......
I am assuming they never did meet up for drinks/date.....if he is under the impression that she was interested.....he might conclude that they never connected..because he didn't push enough..... Who knows.
I also assuming that he apologized as soon as she made clear her actual intentions.....which is the right thing to do.
I am not sure if there was any malice....poor assumption and judgement, yes.
Yes...she was somewhat damaged but not intentionally...I do not see this as death sentence on his part
Formal public apology......
This thread turned into quite the read this morning
This issue isn’t as debatable as some seem to think, IMO
I don’t care how they met, how much she may have played up to him, when it happened vs when it was reported, or what he says now.
60 unreturned text messages is bizarre and pathetic. Doesn’t matter if you agreed to trade pics in the past...after maybe 2-3 unreturned texts, you walk the fuck away and leave her alone.
The fact players pull a lot of shit like this doesn’t somehow excuse his behavior. A buddy of mine worked for the Orioles several years back, you should see the texts his girlfriend used to get from Rafael Palmeiro.
But for someone in a position of leadership over said players? Yeah, bye.
Sending pictures of your genitals is not appropriate and no one with good judgement would put something like that on the internet where it is there for ever
you own the vetting misstep. “We realize we cannot continue the relationship as we’d previously hoped.” Don’t go below the surface. No need. Wish him well and move forward.
Porter’s young. He can evolve. He just can’t have THIS job.
Remember when Favre sent dick picks to Sterger? Where was all the outrage when that happened? Did that prevent him from getting in the Hall of Fame? Did that stop companies from offering him add deals or to be in commercials (I still see those stupid cooper sleeve ads all the time).
Is that situation different because Sterger was clearly looking for attention on getting those out there to further her media career?
Was Porter wrong, absolutely. I am sure if you look hard enough, you can find something in everyone's past. The timing of this just sucks, similar to the Beltran situation. My hope is that Cohen stands by Porter and says everyone makes mistakes and allows him to keep his job.
I am really curious as to the timing of all of this. As the article alluded to, this women is no longer in the sports media and asked to run the story. Has she been out long; did she just leave; is it at slow news cycle over at ESPN?
Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
BINGO!!!
What type of idiot doesn't get that NO response is a response?
(after reading this thread....) That I am in my 50's and cameras on phones were not around when I was young and hormones raging.
Texting and cameras have dramatically changed how we interact with other people (I know, Captain Obvious). I wonder how many of us middle aged and older would have been, if we had that device in our hands, at 17-25? We may have gotten laid more due to sheer numbers, but many of us would have gotten into a bunch of trouble.
for the fact this is just acceptable male female pursuit (I do not but I guess it's an opinion one can have), you have to at least acknowledge that someone with a public facing position cannot engage in this activity without consequence.
this guy would have to be a moron to think this is ok and feel like "I just wanted her to go out with me so I sent her a dick pick, what's the big deal?"
her response and action are questionable - I do question how much a victim she actually is but I don't know - I don't think a language barrier should prevent her from saying that's gross don't send me naked pictures of yourself - at least if she said "knock it off" one time (maybe she did?) I could see this being worse from her perspective, I do think she probably knew what was happening (but this is all conjecture based on the story - I could be wrong, but usually they try and make it worse for the victim - and did not in this story), ESPN is also reprehensible because they likely sat on it knowing Porter would wind up in a role like this one day and the story would have a bigger impact, but to be clear this is 100% on Porter.
Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
Yes, you and I know that. But guess what, some guys are socially retarded when it comes to women. And I mean socially retarded in the literal sense. He just might be really, really bad at this and great at baseball stuff. There might be a reason he's still single.
The man side of your brain functions, Jim. The other side does not. I think the story you just mentioned is messing with you and interfering with future relationships with women.
I've been happily married for 13 years now. And I'd bet a thousand bucks my wife would call out this chick quicker than me.
And some of you need to learn what harassment is. Sending 60 unanswered texts is embarrassing and cringey. But unless she asked him to stop and he continued, that's not harassment. When she asked him to stop, he apologized, acknowledged her, and stopped. Ok, there was an extra pic of Dodger Stadium, which is weird, but then he truly stopped contacting her. There was zero sexual texts after she asked him to stop. Zero attempts at trying get more responses from her. In the end, he did the right thing by cutting off contact with her, honoring her wishes.
She should've done that as soon as she realized he wanted something that she didn't, but instead, she misled him, saying things like she wanted more pics of him and asking if he was married. You don't do that to a dude when you aren't interested, period. And because she has agency and she's a full-grown woman, she needs to fucking own her shit and you guys need to stop excusing her for it.
You do not understand, are engaging in counter-revolutionary thinking and displaying bad attitude. It is necessary in order to maintain the revolution for this counter-revolutionary to be publicly denounced, confess his error, receive punishment, and re-educated. Perhaps after he has been rehabilitated, he can find something useful to do like be a gardener. In the meantime, remember, the nail that stands up is the one that gets hammered.
she didnt respond after a number of texts, he didnt get the message and continued. Or he didn't care and wanted to express his sexual desires with her, which is way worse.
isn't really apples to apples here, not to mention the peculiar oversharing. While this woman could have hit the brakes sooner, she didn't, but eventually he's got to be self-aware enough to realize he's gone too far and that it's time to stop.
You have to wonder what she had to gain in revealing this four years later, but he was wrong in the first place.
A little side note while I'm pretending to have some insight
The kind of guy that camps on the side of "she did not respond, and that would have stopped it, so it's not really harrassment" is pretty much the same type of person that would TAKE ANY RESPONSE AT ALL, EVEN A FIRM STOP! as a type of encouragement, probably...
Penis brain thinks: " hey, she's answering my dick pics!"
Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
Yes, you and I know that. But guess what, some guys are socially retarded when it comes to women. And I mean socially retarded in the literal sense. He just might be really, really bad at this and great at baseball stuff. There might be a reason he's still single.
The man side of your brain functions, Jim. The other side does not. I think the story you just mentioned is messing with you and interfering with future relationships with women.
I've been happily married for 13 years now. And I'd bet a thousand bucks my wife would call out this chick quicker than me.
And some of you need to learn what harassment is. Sending 60 unanswered texts is embarrassing and cringey. But unless she asked him to stop and he continued, that's not harassment. When she asked him to stop, he apologized, acknowledged her, and stopped. Ok, there was an extra pic of Dodger Stadium, which is weird, but then he truly stopped contacting her. There was zero sexual texts after she asked him to stop. Zero attempts at trying get more responses from her. In the end, he did the right thing by cutting off contact with her, honoring her wishes.
She should've done that as soon as she realized he wanted something that she didn't, but instead, she misled him, saying things like she wanted more pics of him and asking if he was married. You don't do that to a dude when you aren't interested, period. And because she has agency and she's a full-grown woman, she needs to fucking own her shit and you guys need to stop excusing her for it.
You do not understand, are engaging in counter-revolutionary thinking and displaying bad attitude. It is necessary in order to maintain the revolution for this counter-revolutionary to be publicly denounced, confess his error, receive punishment, and re-educated. Perhaps after he has been rehabilitated, he can find something useful to do like be a gardener. In the meantime, remember, the nail that stands up is the one that gets hammered.
Yes, thinking dick pics are appropriate is akin to falling victim to the Reign of Terror's fourth wave.
You've got a 3:15 on January 22nd at your town square, please be sure to shave the back of your neck.
But you’re getting really defensive about this and it’s weird.
You know why? I've met girls like this. I've seen other women try to destroy a man's life. Women like this are cold-hearted. They prey upon men, they act so innocent and they don't care the damage that is done to the man's life, as long as they look like an innocent victim who was wronged by the horrible surly man, when they are just as responsible.
I've shared a personal story on here before I think about this kind of girl, and happy to do it again.
I know a guy who was falsely accused of rape/sexual assault (not me, though it could have easily been me). Until you've been on that side of a woman who you think likes you and then broadsides you with accusations to the entire world that could basically ruin your life, you really don't understand.
But you’re getting really defensive about this and it’s weird.
Thumbs up, Ryan.
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BECAUSE SHE LED HIM ON!
Dude, it's 2021. Buy a fucking clue.
I have a clue, and it doesn't matter what year it is. Stop allowing women to fuck over dudes this way. This white knight bullshit is wrong.
I’m sorry that happened to your friend. But ya know, that’s 1 situation out of oh...millions? Jesus. Everything isn’t the same my friend.
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it doesn’t seem like you read the full article. Because he didn’t stop when she actually said ok dude that’s enough. He actually sent her MORE texts after that. He didn’t stop. He sent multiple messages. He sent her a pic from Dodger stadium after that. Jesus dude. Why the fuck do you think he did that? Because he was hoping that she’d respond, but she didn’t. We get it man. Obviously a lot of the time women are definitely using this shit to their advantage but guess what, a lot of times they aren’t, and it’s 2020 dude. Sorry but you can’t be a GM of a baseball team and behave this way. Nobody is saying he shouldn’t be forgiven or be able to work in sports. It’s all good there.
But you’re getting really defensive about this and it’s weird.
You know why? I've met girls like this. I've seen other women try to destroy a man's life. Women like this are cold-hearted. They prey upon men, they act so innocent and they don't care the damage that is done to the man's life, as long as they look like an innocent victim who was wronged by the horrible surly man, when they are just as responsible.
I've shared a personal story on here before I think about this kind of girl, and happy to do it again.
I know a guy who was falsely accused of rape/sexual assault (not me, though it could have easily been me). Until you've been on that side of a woman who you think likes you and then broadsides you with accusations to the entire world that could basically ruin your life, you really don't understand.
Jim, I am sorry that happened to you. That sucks to have that happen. But it’s also not okay for the guy who has the upper hand in the situation to take advantage either. And that’s what’s happening here as well.
Cool man, what the fuck does that even mean? First of all, you don’t know this woman, you don’t even know who the fuck she is! Secondly, nobody gives a shit if you’ve met shitty women. It’s not some special card that you get to have in order to seem smart about this conversation.
I’m sorry that happened to your friend. But ya know, that’s 1 situation out of oh...millions? Jesus. Everything isn’t the same my friend.
I'm not the only one. And something happened to me, too.
I'll share it. As for the texts after she asked him to stop, here they are:
Oh I'm sorry
I will stop
I really apologize
I'm sorry
Pic of Dodger Stadium
Then nothing. Really shitty guy there.
Cool man, what the fuck does that even mean? First of all, you don’t know this woman, you don’t even know who the fuck she is! Secondly, nobody gives a shit if you’ve met shitty women. It’s not some special card that you get to have in order to seem smart about this conversation.
Yeah it is. This is what she did...led him on until she decided otherwise, didn't tell him, and then he's wondering wtf happened, maybe something happened, maybe I can save the situation, whatever, and all she has to say is she's not interested and not to text her. And "power of her"? That's some shit right there. He's not her boss. They don't work for the same company. She was a member of the press...who REALLY has the power there? It ain't him, and this story is proof of that.
I hope he's not.
And I’d be willing to bet my mortgage that he’s done this to other women. Anyone with half a fucking brain would agree with that. Which again, is NOT a crime, it’s just shitty sexual behavior that just doesn’t jive with the current times
Jim this guy is getting canned. Go to bed knowing that. It’ll be easier tomorrow morning.
Nobody like that should be in charge of any kind of organization.
Nobody like that should be in charge of any kind of organization.
Gary, love the logic. But Jim’s point is he made a great trade and women can lie.
We had really great romantic chemistry on the date. She sat on my lap in a park after and we ended up kissing. I didn't have anything else planned to do at this point of the date, so I asked her what she wanted to do. She said, "I want to go to your place."
We go to my house, and we start messing around. A lot of passion, heavy petting, but this was our first date and she was 17, I think. Things were getting really intense, but I purposefully kept things in the living room rather than go to the bedroom because I thought it was too soon. Now, there's a lot of hand play, I'm touching her boobs and stuff under her shirt, we're both hot and heavy. She looks me right in the eyes and says, "what do you want me to do to you." That is verbatim. Which took me aback a bit, and then she looked down, obviously I'm stiff as a board.
I said, "you can touch it." She reaches in my pants and starts giving me a handy. I stopped things very shortly after that because I didn't want to have sex with her on the first date, I really felt it would ruin things and I really liked her, I wanted to try to have a relationship with her. So after I said let's cool down, and a bit after that she asked if I could take her home, it was in the wee hours of the morning and we'd be going at it for awhile, and obviously she still lived with her parents.
I take her home and we're sitting in my car, and she says, "I FEEL LIKE YOU TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ME."
I was flabbergasted. Blind-sided. Someone who was totally into the throes with me, and probably would've fucked me silly if I didn't slow things down, and she says something that scared the daylights out of me. When a girl says that, what does it mean? Does it mean she's going to accuse you of sexual assault? Because what actually happened was in that moment, she felt guilty for taking things that far, and felt slutty, and decided it was my fault.
We knew all the same people. Was she going to merely just damage my reputation or make a serious accusation? I didn't know, but I knew right then I was scared shitless of her and never wanted to see her again in an instant.
I really can't explain that feeling in that moment. But I'll never act like a woman doesn't have her own agency. You guys are acting like she was some damsel in distress, and by doing that you rob her of her own agency and responsibility in what happened. That's bullshit, and if you were a true "feminist" you wouldn't act like she was powerless when she truly wasn't. Thanks if you read this far.
Yes, you and I know that. But guess what, some guys are socially retarded when it comes to women. And I mean socially retarded in the literal sense. He just might be really, really bad at this and great at baseball stuff. There might be a reason he's still single.
We had really great romantic chemistry on the date. She sat on my lap in a park after and we ended up kissing. I didn't have anything else planned to do at this point of the date, so I asked her what she wanted to do. She said, "I want to go to your place."
We go to my house, and we start messing around. A lot of passion, heavy petting, but this was our first date and she was 17, I think. Things were getting really intense, but I purposefully kept things in the living room rather than go to the bedroom because I thought it was too soon. Now, there's a lot of hand play, I'm touching her boobs and stuff under her shirt, we're both hot and heavy. She looks me right in the eyes and says, "what do you want me to do to you." That is verbatim. Which took me aback a bit, and then she looked down, obviously I'm stiff as a board.
I said, "you can touch it." She reaches in my pants and starts giving me a handy. I stopped things very shortly after that because I didn't want to have sex with her on the first date, I really felt it would ruin things and I really liked her, I wanted to try to have a relationship with her. So after I said let's cool down, and a bit after that she asked if I could take her home, it was in the wee hours of the morning and we'd be going at it for awhile, and obviously she still lived with her parents.
I take her home and we're sitting in my car, and she says, "I FEEL LIKE YOU TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ME."
I was flabbergasted. Blind-sided. Someone who was totally into the throes with me, and probably would've fucked me silly if I didn't slow things down, and she says something that scared the daylights out of me. When a girl says that, what does it mean? Does it mean she's going to accuse you of sexual assault? Because what actually happened was in that moment, she felt guilty for taking things that far, and felt slutty, and decided it was my fault.
We knew all the same people. Was she going to merely just damage my reputation or make a serious accusation? I didn't know, but I knew right then I was scared shitless of her and never wanted to see her again in an instant.
I really can't explain that feeling in that moment. But I'll never act like a woman doesn't have her own agency. You guys are acting like she was some damsel in distress, and by doing that you rob her of her own agency and responsibility in what happened. That's bullshit, and if you were a true "feminist" you wouldn't act like she was powerless when she truly wasn't. Thanks if you read this far.
I hate when 17 year olds act like that!
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Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
Yes, you and I know that. But guess what, some guys are socially retarded when it comes to women. And I mean socially retarded in the literal sense. He just might be really, really bad at this and great at baseball stuff. There might be a reason he's still single.
The man side of your brain functions, Jim. The other side does not. I think the story you just mentioned is messing with you and interfering with future relationships with women.
Also, let’s think about this: How many countries send reporters to the US to cover baseball? Could be Latin American, more likely East Asian. If she is from Korea, Japan or Taiwan I can easily believe that that she was confused. That is a big cultural gap.
When I was single I tried to date some Asian immigrant girls. It never worked, partly because they seemed to have very different notions of how I was supposed to behave and what I should do to pursue them.
As for him, well, the crotch pics and dick pic are WAYYY out of line. Yeah it’s a long-Ish time ago. I don’t know what the Mets should do. But in a PR-sensitive business he has a big problem and so does his employer.
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Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
Yes, you and I know that. But guess what, some guys are socially retarded when it comes to women. And I mean socially retarded in the literal sense. He just might be really, really bad at this and great at baseball stuff. There might be a reason he's still single.
The man side of your brain functions, Jim. The other side does not. I think the story you just mentioned is messing with you and interfering with future relationships with women.
I've been happily married for 13 years now. And I'd bet a thousand bucks my wife would call out this chick quicker than me.
And some of you need to learn what harassment is. Sending 60 unanswered texts is embarrassing and cringey. But unless she asked him to stop and he continued, that's not harassment. When she asked him to stop, he apologized, acknowledged her, and stopped. Ok, there was an extra pic of Dodger Stadium, which is weird, but then he truly stopped contacting her. There was zero sexual texts after she asked him to stop. Zero attempts at trying get more responses from her. In the end, he did the right thing by cutting off contact with her, honoring her wishes.
She should've done that as soon as she realized he wanted something that she didn't, but instead, she misled him, saying things like she wanted more pics of him and asking if he was married. You don't do that to a dude when you aren't interested, period. And because she has agency and she's a full-grown woman, she needs to fucking own her shit and you guys need to stop excusing her for it.
Alright cheers, mate.
Maybe I can use this to My Advantage some day
But the thing is even if she was an operator, he still fell for it. If she did not respond to numerous texts that is a clear negative signal,’You cannot send a pornographic picture
It may not represent who he is, Might have been a stupid drunken text. But he is still going to get nailed in terms of public perception
she gave enough to misinterpret...with some mixed signals...based on language or whatever....and he took it and ran with it......
I am assuming they never did meet up for drinks/date.....if he is under the impression that she was interested.....he might conclude that they never connected..because he didn't push enough..... Who knows.
I also assuming that he apologized as soon as she made clear her actual intentions.....which is the right thing to do.
I am not sure if there was any malice....poor assumption and judgement, yes.
Yes...she was somewhat damaged but not intentionally...I do not see this as death sentence on his part
Formal public apology......
I don’t care how they met, how much she may have played up to him, when it happened vs when it was reported, or what he says now.
60 unreturned text messages is bizarre and pathetic. Doesn’t matter if you agreed to trade pics in the past...after maybe 2-3 unreturned texts, you walk the fuck away and leave her alone.
The fact players pull a lot of shit like this doesn’t somehow excuse his behavior. A buddy of mine worked for the Orioles several years back, you should see the texts his girlfriend used to get from Rafael Palmeiro.
But for someone in a position of leadership over said players? Yeah, bye.
Porter’s young. He can evolve. He just can’t have THIS job.
Is that situation different because Sterger was clearly looking for attention on getting those out there to further her media career?
Was Porter wrong, absolutely. I am sure if you look hard enough, you can find something in everyone's past. The timing of this just sucks, similar to the Beltran situation. My hope is that Cohen stands by Porter and says everyone makes mistakes and allows him to keep his job.
I am really curious as to the timing of all of this. As the article alluded to, this women is no longer in the sports media and asked to run the story. Has she been out long; did she just leave; is it at slow news cycle over at ESPN?
BINGO!!!
What type of idiot doesn't get that NO response is a response?
I guess Jim can answer that?
Sending 5 unanswered texts borders on harrasment, sending > 10 certainly, and > 20 moves into the realm of psychopathic obsession.
>60!!!!
IMHO, I'm not a psychiatrist.
Texting and cameras have dramatically changed how we interact with other people (I know, Captain Obvious). I wonder how many of us middle aged and older would have been, if we had that device in our hands, at 17-25? We may have gotten laid more due to sheer numbers, but many of us would have gotten into a bunch of trouble.
no brainer, and good for Cohen for being decisive about it
this guy would have to be a moron to think this is ok and feel like "I just wanted her to go out with me so I sent her a dick pick, what's the big deal?"
her response and action are questionable - I do question how much a victim she actually is but I don't know - I don't think a language barrier should prevent her from saying that's gross don't send me naked pictures of yourself - at least if she said "knock it off" one time (maybe she did?) I could see this being worse from her perspective, I do think she probably knew what was happening (but this is all conjecture based on the story - I could be wrong, but usually they try and make it worse for the victim - and did not in this story), ESPN is also reprehensible because they likely sat on it knowing Porter would wind up in a role like this one day and the story would have a bigger impact, but to be clear this is 100% on Porter.
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Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
Yes, you and I know that. But guess what, some guys are socially retarded when it comes to women. And I mean socially retarded in the literal sense. He just might be really, really bad at this and great at baseball stuff. There might be a reason he's still single.
The man side of your brain functions, Jim. The other side does not. I think the story you just mentioned is messing with you and interfering with future relationships with women.
I've been happily married for 13 years now. And I'd bet a thousand bucks my wife would call out this chick quicker than me.
And some of you need to learn what harassment is. Sending 60 unanswered texts is embarrassing and cringey. But unless she asked him to stop and he continued, that's not harassment. When she asked him to stop, he apologized, acknowledged her, and stopped. Ok, there was an extra pic of Dodger Stadium, which is weird, but then he truly stopped contacting her. There was zero sexual texts after she asked him to stop. Zero attempts at trying get more responses from her. In the end, he did the right thing by cutting off contact with her, honoring her wishes.
She should've done that as soon as she realized he wanted something that she didn't, but instead, she misled him, saying things like she wanted more pics of him and asking if he was married. You don't do that to a dude when you aren't interested, period. And because she has agency and she's a full-grown woman, she needs to fucking own her shit and you guys need to stop excusing her for it.
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BECAUSE SHE LED HIM ON!
Dude, it's 2021. Buy a fucking clue.
I have a clue, and it doesn't matter what year it is. Stop allowing women to fuck over dudes this way. This white knight bullshit is wrong.
You sound like someone that speaks from experience of harassment.
You have to wonder what she had to gain in revealing this four years later, but he was wrong in the first place.
The kind of guy that camps on the side of "she did not respond, and that would have stopped it, so it's not really harrassment" is pretty much the same type of person that would TAKE ANY RESPONSE AT ALL, EVEN A FIRM STOP! as a type of encouragement, probably...
Penis brain thinks: " hey, she's answering my dick pics!"
GTFO with ANY justification to that
behavior.
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Texts to stop texting. Her telling him that it is unprofessional and unwanted, etc is what scared him into saying sorry. If she hasn’t text you back after text... idk I’ll give you 3, she doesn’t want you. Don’t apologize after she told you you crossed a line. You should know that 60+ texts that go unanswered is crossing the line. And if you don’t...
Yes, you and I know that. But guess what, some guys are socially retarded when it comes to women. And I mean socially retarded in the literal sense. He just might be really, really bad at this and great at baseball stuff. There might be a reason he's still single.
The man side of your brain functions, Jim. The other side does not. I think the story you just mentioned is messing with you and interfering with future relationships with women.
I've been happily married for 13 years now. And I'd bet a thousand bucks my wife would call out this chick quicker than me.
And some of you need to learn what harassment is. Sending 60 unanswered texts is embarrassing and cringey. But unless she asked him to stop and he continued, that's not harassment. When she asked him to stop, he apologized, acknowledged her, and stopped. Ok, there was an extra pic of Dodger Stadium, which is weird, but then he truly stopped contacting her. There was zero sexual texts after she asked him to stop. Zero attempts at trying get more responses from her. In the end, he did the right thing by cutting off contact with her, honoring her wishes.
She should've done that as soon as she realized he wanted something that she didn't, but instead, she misled him, saying things like she wanted more pics of him and asking if he was married. You don't do that to a dude when you aren't interested, period. And because she has agency and she's a full-grown woman, she needs to fucking own her shit and you guys need to stop excusing her for it.
You do not understand, are engaging in counter-revolutionary thinking and displaying bad attitude. It is necessary in order to maintain the revolution for this counter-revolutionary to be publicly denounced, confess his error, receive punishment, and re-educated. Perhaps after he has been rehabilitated, he can find something useful to do like be a gardener. In the meantime, remember, the nail that stands up is the one that gets hammered.
Yes, thinking dick pics are appropriate is akin to falling victim to the Reign of Terror's fourth wave.
You've got a 3:15 on January 22nd at your town square, please be sure to shave the back of your neck.