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Eagles quarterback and coaching woes running very deep

fuzzy : 1/19/2021 7:59 am
Just three years ago they were on the top of the world. What a mess today. Too bad. /sarcasm
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Classic Faustian Bargain to win the Super Bowl  
RetroJint : 1/19/2021 8:23 am : link
The guys interviewing for the HC job are being told , it is “preferred “ that Wenz remains the QB. Which means Wenz will be the QB. Wenz is a very talented player . That’s being lost in the current discussion . But he has Aaron Rodger’s attitude , without his production .

Death threats to writers in 1-19? Troglodyte Nation strikes again . I hope the Giants beat the Eagles 20 in a row .
this is so sad it makes me want to cry  
Dr. D : 1/19/2021 9:03 am : link
from laughing!

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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/19/2021 9:06 am : link
There was a lot of chatter-after the Eagles won it all-that they were going to be the next dynasty. Things can change in a heartbeat in this league.
Those in glass houses...  
madeinstars : 1/19/2021 9:19 am : link
That being said, fuck the Eagles. I hope their woes are never ending.
I mean...  
Dnew15 : 1/19/2021 9:20 am : link
this is EXACTLY the same situation the Giants had with Manning when DG and Shurmur took over...
RE: Those in glass houses...  
Old Blue : 1/19/2021 9:22 am : link
In comment 15127616 madeinstars said:
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That being said, fuck the Eagles. I hope their woes are never ending.


That being said I’d rathing be picking where the F’n Eagles are picking.
They  
Toth029 : 1/19/2021 9:23 am : link
Know they're stuck with his contract.
RE: I mean...  
HomerJones45 : 1/19/2021 9:34 am : link
In comment 15127621 Dnew15 said:
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this is EXACTLY the same situation the Giants had with Manning when DG and Shurmur took over...
Except Carson Wentz is 28 years old. This past season was his worst and he produced 21 td's running and passing. Prior to this season, he averaged 27 td's passing and 7 picks over the previous 3 years. Eagles management is not being unreasonable.

Pedersen panicked as we did when Manning had a bad year with picks, then pulled a McAdoo and paid the same price when Hurts sucked on national tv- and got the same treatment. Let's see what coach or owner trusts him again.
HJ45..  
Sean : 1/19/2021 9:45 am : link
Do you think Reese & McAdoo would have been brought back in 2018 had the Eli/Geno thing never happened?
RE: RE: I mean...  
Dnew15 : 1/19/2021 9:53 am : link
In comment 15127630 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 15127621 Dnew15 said:


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this is EXACTLY the same situation the Giants had with Manning when DG and Shurmur took over...

Except Carson Wentz is 28 years old. This past season was his worst and he produced 21 td's running and passing. Prior to this season, he averaged 27 td's passing and 7 picks over the previous 3 years. Eagles management is not being unreasonable.

Pedersen panicked as we did when Manning had a bad year with picks, then pulled a McAdoo and paid the same price when Hurts sucked on national tv- and got the same treatment. Let's see what coach or owner trusts him again.


I think the biggest difference here is that Manning had already earned his status as a legit franchise legend - Wentz - not so much.

But other than that - it's pretty damn similar.

Pederson didn't pull a McAdoo  
UConn4523 : 1/19/2021 9:55 am : link
why is that being repeated? You were wrong then and wrong now.

McAdoo benched Eli ahead of time, not during a game which was effectively tied had they kicked the short field goal.
RE: HJ45..  
FStubbs : 1/19/2021 9:55 am : link
In comment 15127638 Sean said:
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Do you think Reese & McAdoo would have been brought back in 2018 had the Eli/Geno thing never happened?


McAdoo might have been a goner anyway, but I think it's 50/50 on Reese.
RE: Pederson didn't pull a McAdoo  
section125 : 1/19/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15127646 UConn4523 said:
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why is that being repeated? You were wrong then and wrong now.

McAdoo benched Eli ahead of time, not during a game which was effectively tied had they kicked the short field goal.


Again, Eli benched himself. Eli told McAdoo if he was not playing the whole game, he would not start and then be pulled.
My goodness....  
Vin_Cuccs : 1/19/2021 10:01 am : link
....I never really thought too highly of Wentz, but he looks like such an immature whiner, and malcontent with each day that passes.

I don’t know how anyone could want someone like him leading their franchise.

As I’ve said in countless other posts...I hope moving from #9 to #6 was worth it.

Philadelphia just keeps pulling on that loose thread.....
RE: RE: Pederson didn't pull a McAdoo  
FStubbs : 1/19/2021 10:22 am : link
In comment 15127652 section125 said:
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In comment 15127646 UConn4523 said:


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why is that being repeated? You were wrong then and wrong now.

McAdoo benched Eli ahead of time, not during a game which was effectively tied had they kicked the short field goal.



Again, Eli benched himself. Eli told McAdoo if he was not playing the whole game, he would not start and then be pulled.


I don't think this is quite correct. McAdoo told him he wanted to platoon Eli - so that Eli would play part of the game and Geno Smith would play part of the game.

If McAdoo had said "we want to get Webb some playing time, so if the game is out of reach one way or the other, he's going to go in", Eli wouldn't have had a problem with that, because that's standard in the NFL.
however it went down  
UConn4523 : 1/19/2021 10:58 am : link
between Eli and McAdoo it wasn't like Hurts being pulled at all. Nothing about it is similar other than they all play QB.
Getting pulled for a known  
crick n NC : 1/19/2021 11:08 am : link
Player in Geno Smith and getting pulled for a 2nd round pick that may be the future are not even close to similar.
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GiantEgo : 1/19/2021 11:09 am : link
Not long ago NFL punditry was declaring the Eagles a model franchise that was years ahead of the rest of the NFL.
Wow  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/19/2021 11:49 am : link
can't believe this is going down in "eagle central"
RE: I mean...  
BillT : 1/19/2021 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15127621 Dnew15 said:
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this is EXACTLY the same situation the Giants had with Manning when DG and Shurmur took over...

No. Actually it isn’t. Manning was at the end of his career and, I believe, in the last year of his contract. Wentz is in the prime of his career and the beginning of a huge contract extension. Yup, that’s the “same situation” except where it isn’t.
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