-Porter fired, no indication who will replace him. Zack Scott would be the obvious choice
-Shi Davidi says the Blue Jays have "aggressively" engaged Springer over the last 2 days, a resolution is likely coming "soon". Per @ShiDavidi it does not appear geography will be the deciding factor for George Springer.
- Mets traded for Joey Lucchesi. They gave up a legit prospect but Lucchesi is solid back end depth who may be better suited for a multi-inning RP role given his lack of a third pitch.
-Jays sign Yates, we'll see the price but I wanted the Mets to be in on him BAD.
It's the right move - realistically I'd bet Sandy has been driving the bus for most of what's happened so far as the new hires were getting their feet under them.
Let things play out this year and see what the need is in the offseason next year. Maybe they decide they need a big time hire, maybe they decide to aim lower, maybe they decide to promote the guy from the Red Sox. No need to rush now.
@JustinCToscano
Take this for what you will, but there is a “Zack Scott” on the Sandy Alderson Zoom call.
@JustinCToscano
Take this for what you will, but there is a “Zack Scott” on the Sandy Alderson Zoom call.
it's certainly possible they already love the guy from what they've seen and want to pull the trigger, if I was Sandy I'd probably want to maintain flexibility but if the guy is the goods there's no time like the present. If I was betting I'd bet on him eventually getting the job.
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Alderson talked to Steve Cohen this morning at 7:30 a.m.: "We agreed the only course of action here was to terminate Jared."
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Sandy Alderson just named the country the reporter was from on the media call. That detail was clearly intentionally left out of the ESPN report in order to protect her identity.
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She cited not just retribution, but also cultural shaming back in her home country for reasons not wanting to come forward. ESPN did a great job of protecting her from being identified back home. This is so irresponsible.
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The #Mets recently hired Ben Zauzmer from the Dodgers to oversee their R&D department, Sandy Alderson said.
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The #Mets recently hired Ben Zauzmer from the Dodgers to oversee their R&D department, Sandy Alderson said.
Interesting career
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Sandy Alderson just named the country the reporter was from on the media call. That detail was clearly intentionally left out of the ESPN report in order to protect her identity.
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She cited not just retribution, but also cultural shaming back in her home country for reasons not wanting to come forward. ESPN did a great job of protecting her from being identified back home. This is so irresponsible.
Now, we're taking it overboard. Was Sandy at least allowed to say she was an earthling? Can we stipulate to that?
I feel like the Mets did the best they could and handled this well. Like everyone else, I agree - how could the Mets know about this.
Dan you are really plugged in but was there some bad blood with the Ricketts who own the Cubs? I am not saying this would be an impact on such a serious issue. Or am I thinking of something about the Ricketts' wife cheering for a Mets loss. Sorry if I am fuzzy on this.
I don't think this would factor in withholding info.
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I feel like the Mets did the best they could and handled this well. Like everyone else, I agree - how could the Mets know about this.
Dan you are really plugged in but was there some bad blood with the Ricketts who own the Cubs? I am not saying this would be an impact on such a serious issue. Or am I thinking of something about the Ricketts' wife cheering for a Mets loss. Sorry if I am fuzzy on this.
I think you're referring to Ricketts telling Cubs fans he most disliked Mets fans (a few years back). I don't think there is any connection to him disliking Mets fans and this being leaked. More likely someone at ESPN checked in with the reporter (knowing Porter was now in a high-profile role) and she finally relented.
"My number one motivation is I want to prevent this from happening to someone else," she told ESPN through an interpreter.
"I know in the U.S., there is a women's empowerment movement. But in [my home country], it's still far behind," the woman said. "Women get dragged through the mud if your name is associated with any type of sexual scandal.
"The messages provide a portrait of an executive on the move, a reporter working with a limited grasp of the English language and American customs"
"The woman met Porter in an elevator at Yankee Stadium on June 26, 2016"
Cripes, ESPN gave a hell of a lot of clues on who the woman was. If anybody really wanted to figure it out, they could, with or without Sandy slipping on the country. I was wondering when I first read the story why she was wanting to remain anonymous, yet ESPN was giving so many irrelevant details.
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Sandy also said he's received no other information other than from Porter and the ESPN story.
So, that means the identity had to come from Porter.
And Porter deserves everything he gets here - this whole thing was preventable 100% by him, but he 100% has a right to name the reporter, and her country - though I am sure Sandy probably didn't name the country intentionally.
I don't mean to seem insensitive and I'm not victim blaming (people will call it that but it has zero to do with blaming a victim for something), but I do feel when someone's livelihood is at stake the accuser (in this case) should not be allowed to remain anonymous.
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Sandy Alderson's inner circle:
* Zack Scott (assistant GM)
* John Ricco (senior VP)
* Tommy Tanous (amateur/international scouting)
* Bryn Alderson (pro scouting)
* Ben Zauzmer (analytics)
* Joe Lefkowitz (analytics)
* Ian Levin (baseball ops)
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Sandy Alderson's inner circle:
* Zack Scott (assistant GM)
* John Ricco (senior VP)
* Tommy Tanous (amateur/international scouting)
* Bryn Alderson (pro scouting)
* Ben Zauzmer (analytics)
* Joe Lefkowitz (analytics)
* Ian Levin (baseball ops)
Only Zauzmer and Scott are "new" hires under Cohen.
Sandy also said he's received no other information other than from Porter and the ESPN story.
So, that means the identity had to come from Porter.
And Porter deserves everything he gets here - this whole thing was preventable 100% by him, but he 100% has a right to name the reporter, and her country - though I am sure Sandy probably didn't name the country intentionally.
I don't mean to seem insensitive and I'm not victim blaming (people will call it that but it has zero to do with blaming a victim for something), but I do feel when someone's livelihood is at stake the accuser (in this case) should not be allowed to remain anonymous.
I think the anonymity more depends on the accusation verification - if the accused acknowledges the allegations are true as in this case there's no need for the accuser to be named (or if there was video or something definitive). If the allegations are disputed things get murkier.
But completely agree that it doesn't seem like Sandy did anything wrong - it's certainly non-ideal to let a detail out if that's what happened but he's also trying to be transparent on a difficult subject where he is playing catch up the same as the rest of the world.
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FA reliever Brad Hand has switched agents. He's now with Jet Sports and BB Abbott.
Colome has switched agents too.
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and the reporter said she no longer feared for her career and ok'd the release (presumably).
Sandy also said he's received no other information other than from Porter and the ESPN story.
So, that means the identity had to come from Porter.
And Porter deserves everything he gets here - this whole thing was preventable 100% by him, but he 100% has a right to name the reporter, and her country - though I am sure Sandy probably didn't name the country intentionally.
I don't mean to seem insensitive and I'm not victim blaming (people will call it that but it has zero to do with blaming a victim for something), but I do feel when someone's livelihood is at stake the accuser (in this case) should not be allowed to remain anonymous.
I think the anonymity more depends on the accusation verification - if the accused acknowledges the allegations are true as in this case there's no need for the accuser to be named (or if there was video or something definitive). If the allegations are disputed things get murkier.
But completely agree that it doesn't seem like Sandy did anything wrong - it's certainly non-ideal to let a detail out if that's what happened but he's also trying to be transparent on a difficult subject where he is playing catch up the same as the rest of the world.
I don't think you HAVE to name the accuser by any stretch, but I also don't think you need to go through great lengths to protect them like in a rape case or something like that.
it was a serious incident I'm not making light of it, but once the story gets greenlighted (by the accuser), I don't think you need to be gagged
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Free-agent reliever Kirby Yates is in agreement with the Blue Jays, a source tells The Athletic.
I don't think you HAVE to name the accuser by any stretch, but I also don't think you need to go through great lengths to protect them like in a rape case or something like that.
it was a serious incident I'm not making light of it, but once the story gets greenlighted (by the accuser), I don't think you need to be gagged
I think we are mostly in agreement, my point was just that in this instance where the allegations aren't in dispute I see no issue with her preferring to remain anonymous. Whether we know who she is or not doesn't really change anything in this particular case.
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Free-agent reliever Kirby Yates is in agreement with the Blue Jays, a source tells The Athletic.
Was Toronto one of the teams rumored to be in on Hand?
Also I wonder if Hand firing his agent has anything to do with the miscommunication earlier this week. Perhaps his agent got out over his skis agreeing to a deal Hand wasn't happy with?
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Free-agent reliever Kirby Yates is in agreement with the Blue Jays, a source tells The Athletic.
Was Toronto one of the teams rumored to be in on Hand?
Also I wonder if Hand firing his agent has anything to do with the miscommunication earlier this week. Perhaps his agent got out over his skis agreeing to a deal Hand wasn't happy with?
Astros, Mets, Blue Jays and Dodgers were all being connected with Hand. FWIW the Mets do not have any clients of his new agents, also FWIW Colome also just switched agents so I'm not sure it means a ton other than not liking offers.
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Sandy Alderson has been a senior executive in baseball for four decades.
He went on 60 Minutes to defend Selig on PEDs. He gave MLB cover with his report on corruption/PEDs in the int’l market.
He has spent his career protecting the status quo rather than making things better.
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Sandy Alderson has been a senior executive in baseball for four decades.
He went on 60 Minutes to defend Selig on PEDs. He gave MLB cover with his report on corruption/PEDs in the int’l market.
He has spent his career protecting the status quo rather than making things better.
Wasn't that the guy the Mets hired and then fired within a year who then did a bunch of interviews knocking them?
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Sandy Alderson has been a senior executive in baseball for four decades.
He went on 60 Minutes to defend Selig on PEDs. He gave MLB cover with his report on corruption/PEDs in the int’l market.
He has spent his career protecting the status quo rather than making things better.
Wasn't that the guy the Mets hired and then fired within a year who then did a bunch of interviews knocking them?
He's Terry Francona's son and yes he was fired by Sandy.
Upon graduating in 2008, he chose an unlikely one: he joined the Marine Corps. He says he never felt right living a cosseted college life—“drinking beer and going to class”—while his peers were fighting wars overseas. His father didn’t get it. His mother, Jacque, also surprised by the decision, hoped it would somehow involve using his Ivy League business degree. “Mom,” he told her gently, “When you think about joining the Marines, it’s not so you can do their paperwork.”"
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Wasn't that the guy the Mets hired and then fired within a year who then did a bunch of interviews knocking them?
He's Terry Francona's son and yes he was fired by Sandy.
Yeah just pointing out he sounds like quite the squeaky wheel. This excerpt from MMO makes it sound like trouble seems to follow him:
Francona’s beef with MLB goes back to when he was fired by the Los Angeles Dodgers and he accused the team of discrimination. The issue began when Francona went to Home Base – an organization that helps with the invisibly wounds of war in Boston – and his boss at the time, Gabe Kapler, asked if he was doing drugs.
Kapler, now the Philadelphia Phillies manager, allegedly pushed Francona to take a leave of absence and things went downhill from there. Francona declined a reassignment and was ultimately given the choice of resigning or be fired. He chose termination, and asked for an investigation from MLB.
The Dodgers and Kapler were cleared of any wrongdoing in the investigation. Meanwhile, Francona turned down two settlements from the Dodgers, one of $40,000 and another one of $150,000.
Upon graduating in 2008, he chose an unlikely one: he joined the Marine Corps. He says he never felt right living a cosseted college life—“drinking beer and going to class”—while his peers were fighting wars overseas. His father didn’t get it. His mother, Jacque, also surprised by the decision, hoped it would somehow involve using his Ivy League business degree. “Mom,” he told her gently, “When you think about joining the Marines, it’s not so you can do their paperwork.”" Link - ( New Window )
Sounds like a fun guy...
Jon Heyman
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Mets were in pretty strong on Kike’ Hernandez when they had a GM. Hard to say where things stand now. Red Sox are among others in but his versatility means he fits lots of teams.
he may very well sign with them but at the finish lines of these things there always a ton of rumors and people who just start throwing darts to try to look like insiders if something happens. It seems like the real reporters get the news very quickly when these things are done for real.
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it seems close to a conclusion but the national reporters don't seem to be leaning in either direction yet. Yesterday was the leaks about location preference and today it seesaws back the other way.
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Hoping we still get Springer but will wait to see what the rest of their plan is if they weren’t willing to spend here.
If the Mets don't get him, oh well, hope they repurpose that money on pitching (via FA or trade)
If the Mets don't get him, oh well, hope they repurpose that money on pitching (via FA or trade)
Yep, I really want Springer but I’ll wait to see how the offseason shakes out if we don’t get him. These guys have already done more than Wilpon would’ve done. Just saying I’d be disappointed if TOR gets him, whether that’s rational or fair or not.
@JonHeyman
There’s a sense Jays are gaining some momentum in George Springer talks. At least Mets thought still in, but Toronto seems to be making a move. Decision isn’t too far off. Belief is price could even top $125M.
With MC contract coming up who is younger and a true core piece wouldn't you rather resign him to an extension and go find a lesser option at CF.
Kinda feel the same way about Nimmo who I love
both are Sandy's guys too.
With MC contract coming up who is younger and a true core piece wouldn't you rather resign him to an extension and go find a lesser option at CF.
Kinda feel the same way about Nimmo who I love
both are Sandy's guys too.
All have their pros/cons.
Conforto and Springer are both very good hitters but Springer can play CF well. Springer also has a big postseason rep. Push comes to shove I think Springer's pros outweigh him being older.
imo both are better than Nimmo by a decent margin because they are more dangerous hitters and most importantly have been better at staying on the field.
All that said Springer depended on price first and foremost and I think the line the NYM drew in the sand was a fair one. Apparently their offer was 6/$125m. Anything under $150m I would have thought was a good deal. Anything over felt rich for a 31 year old. The deal he got is right in the "go either way" zone but post-Lindor trade I can understand passing on it. there are enough other good players out thereat other positions and I hope they close out the 2 that they have been rumored in on (Hand and Kike). Start there and then try to find a CF somewhere.
Plan to get 2-3 years out of Springer in CF and then slide over to LF at some point after Nimmo leaves on the back half of the deal.
The rumored NYM offer at 21m AAV would have been very palatable for that type of plan and I suspect they will eventually get Conforto extended for 5 or 6 years at an annual number below that (since he's a corner only).
Had Toronto not been so aggressive and given him the extra year at the full 25m aav they probably would have gotten him, but Toronto got aggressive.
Excited to see how they cap off the rest of the moves, would think they will go heavy on depth and defense now. Kike Hernandez would be a great start. Hand too. Then find someone who can go get it in CF.
@JonHeyman
Red Sox remain high on Kike’ Hernandez. Mets and others also interested.