when he was a HOF candidate, certain folks refused to consider him a HOFer and called him a compiler, despite the 300+ wins. It was probably Mike and the Mad Dog...lol. Looking at his stats now, he clearly pitched in the right era and the right league and the right ballpark...but he's still 100% deserving of the honor.
reminds me of the discussion about Frank Gore and the HOF here the other day. Incredible career stats but only like 4 all-star games, I think, and not a lot of Cy Young consideration. Great pro but not the best at his position in any of his 22 or whatever years. That said - his career merits the HOF. RIP.
Lived in Poughkeepsie from ‘66 to ‘’80 and my dad worked for IBM. There were so many employees the company had its own country club for all and its own little league. He came and spoke at the league’s summer banquet. I have our pic and his autograph some where.
Lived in Poughkeepsie from ‘66 to ‘’80 and my dad worked for IBM. There were so many employees the company had its own country club for all and its own little league. He came and spoke at the league’s summer banquet. I have our pic and his autograph some where.
reruns at 3am when I couldn't sleep this weekend. Don Sutton happened to be on there, just as I remembered him during those Yankees/Dodgers World Series of my youth.
Sutton was a just a grade below those top tier guys of his era, but he was a great pitcher. Only Steve Carlton and Sandy Koufax remain from that era of greats.
I always remember that perm of his later in his career, and that great curveball.
Then you looked up at the end of his career, damn he had 324 wins too.
from 1966 to 1987 (1981 strike excepted), never less than 27 starts/200 innings. He averaged 34 starts/235 innings lifetime. I don't think he was ever on the DL.
at 42 in 1987, 34 starts/191+ innings. You'll never see that again.
I always remember that perm of his later in his career, and that great curveball.
Then you looked up at the end of his career, damn he had 324 wins too.
from 1966 to 1987 (1981 strike excepted), never less than 27 starts/200 innings. He averaged 34 starts/235 innings lifetime. I don't think he was ever on the DL.
at 42 in 1987, 34 starts/191+ innings. You'll never see that again.
from 1966 to 1987 (1981 strike excepted), never less than 27 starts/200 innings. He averaged 34 starts/235 innings lifetime. I don't think he was ever on the DL.
at 42 in 1987, 34 starts/191+ innings. You'll never see that again.
we saw it 20 years later...Jamie Moyer.
true. strange thing about Moyer, he became more durable as he aged.
Moyer didn't even really get started until he was 30
Warren Spahn went 23-7 with 22(!) complete games at 42.
Tommy John pitched till he was 46 but wasn't particularly good after age 38 or so. You know he's 77 years old now? That's weird to contemplate.
Spahn was amazing. THe thing that really stands out to me with Sutton was the year in year out dependability. He may not nave been the best pitcher on his team, but you were guaranteed he'd be out there every 4th or 5th day and pitch well. And deep into the game.
RIP
RIP
Nothing quite so profound as the passing of time.
Then you looked up at the end of his career, damn he had 324 wins too.
at 42 in 1987, 34 starts/191+ innings. You'll never see that again.
Then you looked up at the end of his career, damn he had 324 wins too.
Yeah, he had classic 1970s hair. RIP Don.
at 42 in 1987, 34 starts/191+ innings. You'll never see that again.
we saw it 20 years later...Jamie Moyer.
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from 1966 to 1987 (1981 strike excepted), never less than 27 starts/200 innings. He averaged 34 starts/235 innings lifetime. I don't think he was ever on the DL.
at 42 in 1987, 34 starts/191+ innings. You'll never see that again.
we saw it 20 years later...Jamie Moyer.
true. strange thing about Moyer, he became more durable as he aged.
Tommy John pitched till he was 46 but wasn't particularly good after age 38 or so. You know he's 77 years old now? That's weird to contemplate.
Tommy John pitched till he was 46 but wasn't particularly good after age 38 or so. You know he's 77 years old now? That's weird to contemplate.
Spahn was amazing. THe thing that really stands out to me with Sutton was the year in year out dependability. He may not nave been the best pitcher on his team, but you were guaranteed he'd be out there every 4th or 5th day and pitch well. And deep into the game.