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Eagles coaching update: 18 candidates!

Vin_Cuccs : 1/20/2021 9:30 am
Not all 18 candidates got interviews, and some were speculative, but wow! The reporters will try to spin this as due diligence, but have to wonder if they got spurned by candidates in demand, or if the job isn’t that desirable.

It sure seems like they have some egg on their face with everything that transpired this season.

Most recent names:
Dennis Allen, New Orleans DC
John Fassel, Dallas ST coach
Nick Sirianni, Indianapolis OC
Kellen Moore, Dallas OC
Josh McDaniels, New England OC
Todd Bowles, Tampa Bay DC
Eric Bieniemy, Kansas City OC

Other candidates:
Brandon Staley, Los Angeles DC
Duce Staley, Philadelphia RB coach
Brian Daboll, Buffalo OC
Joe Brady, Carolina OC
Ryan Day, Ohio State HC
Mike Kafka, Kansas City QB coach
Jerod Mayo, New England LB coach
Robert Saleh, San Francisco DC
Arthur Smith, Tennessee OC
Lincoln Riley, Oklahoma HC
Luke Ficklell, Cincinnati HC

According to reports, Howie Roseman seems to prefer Josh McDaniels, but Jeffrey Lurie has some concerns. McDaniels is the front runner at this point in time.. Apparently Lurie is really intrigued by Duce Staley, and he is certainly a favorite among players and fans. He has received text messages from players with their support for Staley. With that said, both Roseman and Lurie have reservations about his coaching experience.


Is every other job spoken for?  
JB_in_DC : 1/20/2021 9:33 am : link
Interesting to wait out the other teams.

On the one hand - you you miss out on the hottest, seemingly most desirable candidates. On the other - you get to cast a wider net and hear guys out. Hopefully it fails!
Makes the Giants coaching search look smart by comparison  
Mike in NY : 1/20/2021 9:35 am : link
What McDaniels did with Indy probably does not sit well with Lurie who also probably likes that Duce Staley was a long-time Eagles player (he seems like Richardson in terms of loyalty). I would not be surprised if some of the beef with Pederson was because he did not promote Staley if he wasn't going to land a big name OC candidate.
I think Staley  
Big Blue '56 : 1/20/2021 9:36 am : link
would be an excellent choice, but WTF do I know?
it's an NFL job  
KDavies : 1/20/2021 9:36 am : link
and there's only 32 of them as they say. However, IMO, it is one of the least desirable jobs out there. They are a couple of years after a Super Bowl, so there are expectations there. In reality, they could be a hot mess. Cap issues will further kill their depth issues. They have had some pretty poor drafting recently. They have the Wentz/Hurts mess to deal with. The coach may not even pick the QB as they may have Wentz forced on them.

I would much rather a job like the Jets or Jaguars, taking over a real bad team with a better cap situation and lower expectations. The Eagles job has potential disaster written all over it.
RE: Is every other job spoken for?  
Mike in NY : 1/20/2021 9:37 am : link
In comment 15128716 JB_in_DC said:
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Interesting to wait out the other teams.

On the one hand - you you miss out on the hottest, seemingly most desirable candidates. On the other - you get to cast a wider net and hear guys out. Hopefully it fails!


Houston job is still open, but Watson's antics and Bill O'Brien gutting the future of the franchise don't exactly make that job desirable
How about Jason Garrett?  
johnnyb : 1/20/2021 9:41 am : link
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I hate the Eagles  
giants#1 : 1/20/2021 9:45 am : link
but objectively speaking, it's easily the worst job out there:

1. Over the cap
2. Aging DL
3. Aging OL
4. Crappy QB with bloated contract
5. 2nd year QB that was up-and-down (potential QB controversy if rumors about Wentz not being liked by teammates are true)
6. Not a great draft position to get their future QB (plus 4/5 above) since at least 2 will be off the board

IMHO they need to blow it up and do a complete rebuild.
RE: I hate the Eagles  
Mike in NY : 1/20/2021 9:47 am : link
In comment 15128734 giants#1 said:
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but objectively speaking, it's easily the worst job out there:

1. Over the cap
2. Aging DL
3. Aging OL
4. Crappy QB with bloated contract
5. 2nd year QB that was up-and-down (potential QB controversy if rumors about Wentz not being liked by teammates are true)
6. Not a great draft position to get their future QB (plus 4/5 above) since at least 2 will be off the board

IMHO they need to blow it up and do a complete rebuild.


You forgot meddling ownership and owner/GM conflict as it pertains to the QB situation. My question is how the Hurts pick was even approved if the owner was that gung ho about Wentz? Usually with the premium picks the owner weighs in because those players will be the face of the franchise.
Caption Contest:  
Giantsfan79 : 1/20/2021 9:49 am : link
It's hard to find a Yes-Man now-a-days.
Saleh  
jestersdead : 1/20/2021 9:50 am : link
Didn't he agree to coach the Jets?
RE: I think Staley  
SomeFan : 1/20/2021 9:52 am : link
In comment 15128719 Big Blue '56 said:
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would be an excellent choice, but WTF do I know?


Note that there are two Staley's on the list.
Howie Roseman  
Sammo85 : 1/20/2021 9:55 am : link
won't stop until he gets a candidate that tells him how great a GM he is and how Carson Wentz is the best, apparently!
You know its funny  
Essex : 1/20/2021 9:56 am : link
when they hired Kelly I was very afraid that it was a good hire and when they hired Pederson I was relieved as I thought he would be a disaster, never thinking he would (with the cheering of some on BBI) get them their first super bowl. I usually sit out these discussions because nobody (unless you bring in a known turnaournd specialist like Parcells) knows if they will work out.
RE: it's an NFL job  
Sammo85 : 1/20/2021 9:56 am : link
In comment 15128720 KDavies said:
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and there's only 32 of them as they say. However, IMO, it is one of the least desirable jobs out there. They are a couple of years after a Super Bowl, so there are expectations there. In reality, they could be a hot mess. Cap issues will further kill their depth issues. They have had some pretty poor drafting recently. They have the Wentz/Hurts mess to deal with. The coach may not even pick the QB as they may have Wentz forced on them.

I would much rather a job like the Jets or Jaguars, taking over a real bad team with a better cap situation and lower expectations. The Eagles job has potential disaster written all over it.


It has the feel of a Pat Shurmur type and tenure (2 years tops) until they clear the Wentz situation one way or another, get Cap into cleaner condition and see if they could draft better.


RE: RE: I think Staley  
Big Blue '56 : 1/20/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15128745 SomeFan said:
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In comment 15128719 Big Blue '56 said:


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would be an excellent choice, but WTF do I know?



Note that there are two Staley's on the list.


👍🏿👍
if they hire Staley or another minority from within...  
KDavies : 1/20/2021 10:12 am : link
do they get the 2 3rd round draft picks? That would be strange if they did. But if they didn't, doesn't that kind of disfavor promoting from within?
RE: How about Jason Garrett?  
Victor in CT : 1/20/2021 10:16 am : link
In comment 15128727 johnnyb said:
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I was thinking the same thing. 18 candidates and Garrett doesn't get an interview? Ouch.
I guess the bloom is off the Joe Brady Rose?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/20/2021 10:17 am : link
I wonder if Tepper paid him HC money, he could def get a cush college gig.
Try not to interview anyone on your way to the parking lot.  
robbieballs2003 : 1/20/2021 10:29 am : link
Howie's big with appearances  
ghost718 : 1/20/2021 10:32 am : link
it seems

Had around 8 TV's set up for the draft last year,it looked like you were walking into a Best Buy. A Carson Wentz poster in the office, and now, 18 coaching candidates.
RE: RE: RE: I think Staley  
jvm52106 : 1/20/2021 11:07 am : link
In comment 15128757 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 15128745 SomeFan said:


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In comment 15128719 Big Blue '56 said:


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would be an excellent choice, but WTF do I know?



Note that there are two Staley's on the list.



👍🏿👍


Ha ha, I see what you did there.
Local radio  
GeoMan999 : 1/20/2021 11:17 am : link
The feeling is that McDaniels would be the best at saving Wentz, bringing discipline, but he is not too popular with players.

The other intrigue would be his relationship with Howie as he would want more power than they gave Pederson. Howie is getting trashed locally for his role in the team’s demise, bad drafting, etc. Roseman also has been accused of having too much power at Pederson’s expense such as making decisions on who is activated on game day!
Well when was the last time you took a job  
BelieveJJ : 1/20/2021 11:18 am : link
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Not all 18 candidates got interviews, and some were speculative, but wow! The reporters will try to spin this as due diligence, but have to wonder if they got spurned by candidates in demand, or if the job isn’t that desirable.


where the ownership and GM above you told the person formerly in the position to commit an unethical act that alienated all the team under your direction... and then hung you out to dry as the fall guy when the public including numerous prior top flight employees was outraged?

Well that's fairly incoherent but I hope y'all see the point?
Well when was the last time you took a job  
BelieveJJ : 1/20/2021 11:19 am : link
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Not all 18 candidates got interviews, and some were speculative, but wow! The reporters will try to spin this as due diligence, but have to wonder if they got spurned by candidates in demand, or if the job isn’t that desirable.


where the ownership and GM above you told the person formerly in the position to commit an unethical act that alienated all the team under your direction... and then hung you out to dry as the fall guy when the public including numerous prior top flight employees was outraged?

Well that's fairly incoherent but I hope y'all see the point?
Pardon that  
BelieveJJ : 1/20/2021 11:39 am : link
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When  
AcidTest : 1/20/2021 12:10 pm : link
you have 18 candidates, you have none.
I predict  
cjac : 1/20/2021 12:20 pm : link
they hire John Fassel
I could almost see it being Mike Kafka  
FranknWeezer : 1/20/2021 12:39 pm : link
Former Eagles QB
Worked with Mahomes, and if it's Hurts at QB, there's a similar style
Been on Andy Reid's staff and Andy's recommendation would be given great weight...unless if Pederson left a bad taste in Lurie's mouth on that front
RE: Well when was the last time you took a job  
Rafflee : 1/20/2021 2:34 pm : link
In comment 15128867 BelieveJJ said:
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Not all 18 candidates got interviews, and some were speculative, but wow! The reporters will try to spin this as due diligence, but have to wonder if they got spurned by candidates in demand, or if the job isn’t that desirable.



where the ownership and GM above you told the person formerly in the position to commit an unethical act that alienated all the team under your direction... and then hung you out to dry as the fall guy when the public including numerous prior top flight employees was outraged?

Well that's fairly incoherent but I hope y'all see the point?


well....the Mara agreed to bench Eli, and Then He fired the Coach and the GM because they benched Eli
may all 18  
djm : 1/20/2021 2:42 pm : link
suck a bag of dicks as HC.
Didn’t John Fassel  
eric2425ny : 1/20/2021 3:23 pm : link
used to stand behind his Dad on the sideline during all of the Giants games when he was a little kid?
Interviewing so many candidates  
GeoMan999 : 1/20/2021 3:39 pm : link
Means that they Are Not getting spurned, otherwise they would not agree to the interviewing.

I am not saying they are a very desirable landing spot at this point, but I have read ways they can overcome the Cap situation especially if they keep Wentz.
RE: Interviewing so many candidates  
Mike in NY : 1/20/2021 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15129219 GeoMan999 said:
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Means that they Are Not getting spurned, otherwise they would not agree to the interviewing.

I am not saying they are a very desirable landing spot at this point, but I have read ways they can overcome the Cap situation especially if they keep Wentz.


Even if they cut Wentz they still have cap issues. Also appears to be some real division among the GM/Owner regarding who the QB should be. It is not quite as bad as Houston because you at least have draft picks, but any legit head coaching candidate might prefer to stay put and wait to see what next year brings unless the Eagles really make it worth their while.
RE: Interviewing so many candidates  
Essex : 1/20/2021 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15129219 GeoMan999 said:
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Means that they Are Not getting spurned, otherwise they would not agree to the interviewing.

I am not saying they are a very desirable landing spot at this point, but I have read ways they can overcome the Cap situation especially if they keep Wentz.


not one assistant will ever turn down a HC interview, at the very least you could use it as leverage to get some money from your current employer if they think there is a legitimate shot to lose you. In addition, it puts your name out there as a HC candidate. Whether they want the job is another question; I am sure that a guy like McDaniel realizes with BB not leaving, the bridges he burned with his behavior in Denver and spurning Indy, and the Pats offense without Brady, he might have to take this job if he wants another HC gig. The Eagles may luck out in that regard with McDaniels if he is good as people think he can be. I think a lot of candidates will want to know if they could work with the GM and go into the interview and ask lots of questions in the regard. There are reports that Pederson did not even control who was Active or not on gameday. I think a lot of potential candidates would be scared off if they interview and that turns out to be true. So, there could a host of reasons why the number is so large.
Interviewing more than 3-4 candidates  
RetroJint : 1/20/2021 4:21 pm : link
is a prescription for disaster . Good .
RE: Interviewing more than 3-4 candidates  
robbieballs2003 : 1/20/2021 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15129269 RetroJint said:
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is a prescription for disaster . Good .


Why?
If, as the OP states...  
Jim in Tampa : 1/21/2021 5:47 am : link
Not all 18 "candidates" got interviews and some names were speculative, then there weren't actually 18 candidates were there?

And if they land McDaniels (who had been considered a top choice in previous years) or another prime candidate, then five minutes after the new HC is named, no one will care how many others were considered during the process.
RE: RE: Well when was the last time you took a job  
section125 : 1/21/2021 6:03 am : link
In comment 15129146 Rafflee said:
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In comment 15128867 BelieveJJ said:


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Not all 18 candidates got interviews, and some were speculative, but wow! The reporters will try to spin this as due diligence, but have to wonder if they got spurned by candidates in demand, or if the job isn’t that desirable.



where the ownership and GM above you told the person formerly in the position to commit an unethical act that alienated all the team under your direction... and then hung you out to dry as the fall guy when the public including numerous prior top flight employees was outraged?

Well that's fairly incoherent but I hope y'all see the point?



well....the Mara agreed to bench Eli, and Then He fired the Coach and the GM because they benched Eli


What he was told was going to happen and what did happen were different. Hence they got fired.
It is just way too many candidates...  
EricJ : 1/21/2021 6:29 am : link
and reminds me of what the stage looks like on the first night of the DNC or RNC primaries.
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