NFT: Good Morning Mets fans

In comment 15130213 ryanmkeane said:

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Mark Feinsand of MLB.com

Feinsand simply said the Mets and Angels are in the best position to land him. This is complete BS from Carton.

is all he said, this isn't some breaking or new news.


"Mets team president Sandy Alderson made it clear early in the winter that he likes Bauer, and even after signing Marcus Stroman, James McCann and Trevor May for a combined $75 million -- then trading for Francisco Lindor, who will earn $22.3 million in 2021 and command a huge extension likely exceeding $300 million -- new owner Steve Cohen has the financial wherewithal to sign Bauer (or anybody else, for that matter).

Pairing Bauer with Jacob deGrom atop the rotation would give the Mets a rock-solid 1-2 punch, with Stroman and eventually Noah Syndergaard forming a stellar group. Having missed out on Springer, will the Mets now turn their attention to Bauer?"

circles back to the beginning of the off-season and wants a 1 year deal it may be perfect for the Mets.

After this year the Mets would have Bauer, Stroman and Syndergaard all free agents.

QO's for all and try and sign Syndergaard (if he returns to pre TJS Syndergaard), see how Bauer pitches, and after winning the world series make the call the call on him too.

Let Stroman go for a pick.

2nd half rotation of
deGrom
Syndergaard
Carrasco
Bauer
Stroman

and then the depth is really depth (they'll need a 5th starter until Syndergaard comes back) and then Matz, Lucchesi, etc. can be used the way they should be used).

but that ship may have sailed, but who knows.

"Feinsand said, “Whether Bauer decides on a multiyear deal or a one-year pact, the Mets are the team to watch here” and also added, “Several other teams will be in the mix for Bauer, but the Mets feel like the team ready to take the jump to sign him.”


He's been saying this for... 2 months. His new article doesn't say ANYTHING new or revelatory. Carton is a complete BSer. I'd take Bauer in one second but this isn't even a "rumor".

Stroman not eligible for the QO since he was given one this offseason.

it is hard to envision Bauer after adding Carrasco for 3 years and having Thor up at the end of the year. To say nothing of what happens with Stroman. That's just such a heavy investment. Those 5 players would cost over $100m combined against the LTT this year and more beyond.

I think they will bring 1 more vet SP into camp but I expect it to be in the 2-4m range and heavily incentive based. That would have 4 guys competing for 2 spots in ST, with 2 of them having options to go down and 2 non-guaranteed vets. Plus Thor coming back midseason.

In comment 15130237 Metnut said:

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Stroman not eligible for the QO since he was given one this offseason.

Thanks Metnut. Still hate that trade, and I hate it more every day.

Stroman could go a long way toward making me not hate it by pitching lights out.

In comment 15130237 Metnut said:

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Stroman not eligible for the QO since he was given one this offseason.

Would we get a 2nd or a 4th of Thor leaves?

Kike? 800+ career OPS vs. lefties, perfect winning mentality, could possibly start in the IF, provides OF depth. A lot to like there.

have money set aside if Thor returns to form and becomes dominant again, will want to to sign him extension and have him carry DeGrom's torch as ace of the staff for the future.

In comment 15130270 Eric on Li said:

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Kike? 800+ career OPS vs. lefties, perfect winning mentality, could possibly start in the IF, provides OF depth. A lot to like there.

Lol. Have absolutely no idea

an elite free agent? The way people talk about him you'd think he was DeGrom's equal.

In comment 15129675 pjcas18 said:

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claims the Mets chose Conforto over Springer (basically) once they signed Lindor. They love Conforto and want to extend him and they want to extend Lindor and didn't think they can do both with Springer. Also, says they have multiple options being kicked around for CF and expects that decision is not yet made. I'm paraphrasing from the article. Link below. link - ( New Window )

I get the general point but the article doesn’t make a ton of sense. The issue of Springer vs. Conforto existed from the beginning. There’s no reason that should have caused a difference in thinking in the middle of the offseason.

In comment 15130305 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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an elite free agent? The way people talk about him you'd think he was DeGrom's equal.

He had an incredible season and has been "ace" good 2 of the last 3. He's not DeGrom but if he's 2018 or 2020 Bauer (or something in between) the Mets would have the best rotation in baseball and the top 1-2 punch in baseball. The question is... who is the real Bauer?

not "team Bauer" not am I looking for a tedious Bauer argument (seems like he's a big point of contention" but he's 6th in fWAR over the last 3 seasons (no, nowhere near DeGrom), 16th in FIP, 9th in K/9. He's probably closer to top 10 to top 3-4 but at his best (2020) he's been as good as anyone.

I just looked at his last no-covid seasons. 200 IP, 1.24 whip. It's good, but it's when I see people say he'd be part of a dream offseason I was curious.

In comment 15130144 DanMetroMan said:

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Jon Heyman @JonHeyman · 1m Mets are hiring Kevin Howard as farm director. He was Indians hitting coordinator.

Something about the Clev organization has Sandy's eye. Wonder if Mike Chernoff is back on the radar for 2022

In comment 15130310 JoeMoney19 said:

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In comment 15129675 pjcas18 said: Quote: claims the Mets chose Conforto over Springer (basically) once they signed Lindor. They love Conforto and want to extend him and they want to extend Lindor and didn't think they can do both with Springer. Also, says they have multiple options being kicked around for CF and expects that decision is not yet made. I'm paraphrasing from the article. Link below. link - ( New Window ) I get the general point but the article doesn’t make a ton of sense. The issue of Springer vs. Conforto existed from the beginning. There’s no reason that should have caused a difference in thinking in the middle of the offseason.

Not quite, Lindor changed everything, because then it wasn't Conforto and Springer, it was Lindor, Conforto and Springer. and Springer and Conforto tying up something like 50M in two OF spots.

So I think the article says the Mets pursuit of Springer cooled once the Lindor trade was finalized.

In comment 15130338 Rory said:

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In comment 15130144 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Jon Heyman @JonHeyman · 1m Mets are hiring Kevin Howard as farm director. He was Indians hitting coordinator. Something about the Clev organization has Sandy's eye. Wonder if Mike Chernoff is back on the radar for 2022

They churn out the pitching

How can you sign him until the DH is resolved?

Do that and you wind up spending 100+ million and make the lineup WORSE because then either Alonso or Dom has to sit. Or you have to trade Dom or Alonso, probably for pennies on the dollar because you painted yourself into a corner.

Also, how much longer can Springer play CF? A lot of talk about his defense has already slipped. Is a 37 year old Springer really going to play CF?

Finally, you would also basically be committed to letting either Conforto and/or Thor walk.

Sounds like Sandy made just a token effort to get him with a lowball offer. Makes me think Cohen was the one fixated on Springer.