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NFT: Knicks @ Warriors 10pmest

nygiants16 : 1/21/2021 8:12 am
Burks probable and will likely play

Rivers doubtful with achilles soreness

Frank doubtful with knee injury
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West coast games  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/21/2021 8:22 am : link
suck living on the east coast.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/21/2021 8:42 am : link
Going to be a tough game. Dubs are hot.
Looking forward to Mitch vs. Wiseman  
larryflower37 : 1/21/2021 9:09 am : link
Should be a fun game to watch if I can stay awake
it's really  
ryanmkeane : 1/21/2021 9:49 am : link
sucks that they couldn't get anything of value for Frank (if they tried)....I would have taken a 2nd rounder in 2023 for him at this point
RE: it's really  
NYG22 : 1/21/2021 9:54 am : link
In comment 15129619 ryanmkeane said:
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sucks that they couldn't get anything of value for Frank (if they tried)....I would have taken a 2nd rounder in 2023 for him at this point


Yeah I made the comment yesterday. His lack of confidence prevents any real assertiveness on offense. So, that eliminates the notion of him being a lead guard but also hurts his shooting usefulness (despite a shooting stroke that should produce good results). Could he be a wing defender that doesn't kill you on the other side? Sure, but the other impediment to even that is his lack of durability. At this point, he's hanging on by a thread as far as being a viable NBA player.
Frank? Who?  
Greg from LI : 1/21/2021 9:58 am : link
Don't know any Franks
RE: RE: it's really  
JB_in_DC : 1/21/2021 9:59 am : link
In comment 15129629 NYG22 said:
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In comment 15129619 ryanmkeane said:


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sucks that they couldn't get anything of value for Frank (if they tried)....I would have taken a 2nd rounder in 2023 for him at this point



Yeah I made the comment yesterday. His lack of confidence prevents any real assertiveness on offense. So, that eliminates the notion of him being a lead guard but also hurts his shooting usefulness (despite a shooting stroke that should produce good results). Could he be a wing defender that doesn't kill you on the other side? Sure, but the other impediment to even that is his lack of durability. At this point, he's hanging on by a thread as far as being a viable NBA player.


The funny thing about him is that if he was a decent player there would be a ton of handwringing over his lack of durability. But because its been so bad it fades to the background.
it's just crazy to me  
ryanmkeane : 1/21/2021 10:00 am : link
that he's still on the team. but i guess we don't know the other side of it...maybe nobody wanted him
he's a flawed player  
Ron Johnson : 1/21/2021 10:20 am : link
like every other Knick
RE: he's a flawed player  
Jon in NYC : 1/21/2021 10:30 am : link
In comment 15129666 Ron Johnson said:
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like every other Knick


I will not sit here and accept any Julius Randle slander in the year of our lord 2021.
Frank  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/21/2021 10:37 am : link
is just flawed? Lol.
RE: RE: he's a flawed player  
Ron Johnson : 1/21/2021 10:58 am : link
In comment 15129679 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 15129666 Ron Johnson said:


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like every other Knick



I will not sit here and accept any Julius Randle slander in the year of our lord 2021.


admittedly, some are more flawed than others
RE: Frank  
Ron Johnson : 1/21/2021 10:59 am : link
In comment 15129691 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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is just flawed? Lol.


Well, I hear he has bad table manners also but can't confirm that.
yeah Frank is a flawed  
ryanmkeane : 1/21/2021 12:59 pm : link
player as in he cannot play NBA basketball
RE: yeah Frank is a flawed  
NYG22 : 1/21/2021 1:23 pm : link
In comment 15129928 ryanmkeane said:
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player as in he cannot play NBA basketball


Frustrating because he has some things that would point to him being a good player (rare length, intelligent player, seems like a solid work ethic, adequate athlete). But man, if you can't stay on the court and your confidence prevents assertiveness when you are on the court....all the other stuff proves meaningless.
Burks in Rivers out  
Chris L. : 1/21/2021 1:32 pm : link
sounds like an upgrade to me.
RE: Burks in Rivers out  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2021 1:51 pm : link
In comment 15129962 Chris L. said:
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sounds like an upgrade to me.


Different players, Burks more of scorer/shooter, Rivers more of scorer/ ball handler..
This is a game knicks can go some small ball  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2021 1:52 pm : link
The Warriors are not a very big team, Id like to see for a few minutes Quickely, burks, Rj, Randle Toppin get some burn together, that is a lot of floor spacing..

Knicks off the bench have some shooters and the floor should be really spaced for Quick to attack the middle
This team needs shooters (Burks)  
Chris L. : 1/21/2021 1:53 pm : link
not brickers (Rivers). Have not been overly impressed with Rivers at this point. Would much rather see Frank get his minutes.
Wow, first 10pm for a local team  
jpkmets : 1/21/2021 2:02 pm : link
Since precocious, I guess. No baseball west coast swings. Guess I better take a nap!
Lol, Pre COVID-19  
jpkmets : 1/21/2021 2:03 pm : link
not precocious. Typing like Walt Frazier. Definitely nap time.
RE: Lol, Pre COVID-19  
Jim in Fairfax : 1/21/2021 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15130000 jpkmets said:
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not precocious. Typing like Walt Frazier. Definitely nap time.


Yeah....Dozing and prosing.
RE: This team needs shooters (Burks)  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2021 2:09 pm : link
In comment 15129984 Chris L. said:
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not brickers (Rivers). Have not been overly impressed with Rivers at this point. Would much rather see Frank get his minutes.


Frank should be in the G league, Rivers has at least come up clutch for this team in a few games
RE: This team needs shooters (Burks)  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/21/2021 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15129984 Chris L. said:
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not brickers (Rivers). Have not been overly impressed with Rivers at this point. Would much rather see Frank get his minutes.


Laughable. What Rivers did against Utah is more than Frank ever did in his 4 years here.
i could care less...  
Italianju : 1/21/2021 2:33 pm : link
if Frank every plays again for the Knicks. Im a pretty optimistic fan, but the candle some of you hold for Frank being anything more then a end of the bench defender is absurd. If we drafted frank in the second round nobody would even want him on the team anymore, but since he is a top 10 pick people still want to see some unwarranted upside. Give me rivers any day of the week over Frank.
It's rare you see people jump through hoops to support a player  
Greg from LI : 1/21/2021 2:47 pm : link
the way some people have for Frenchy. It's kind of hilarious. BBI only has a few of them, but if you ever went to the Knicks reddit or Posting and Toasting, god almighty there were a lot of people for whom Frank walked on water. It was surreal how much they loved the guy no matter how much he stunk.
Every team has a frank on their team  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2021 2:55 pm : link
he is the 12th or 13th man and never plays
Frank was such a bad pick in the moment  
Enzo : 1/21/2021 2:56 pm : link
The lesson learned is that Phil had no business running a team. So many other players would have been a better pick. I'm not going to be surprised if he ends up being a useful player down the road though. He's got some tools. But whatever glimpses he's shown are all moot if he can't stay on the court and build on them.
Frank clearly an end of the bench  
GGGGmen : 1/21/2021 3:00 pm : link
NBA "role" player. Does nothing exceptionally well and can't create his own shot or get others involved.

Man, Donovan Mitchell was there.
Yeah Frank was a bad pick  
bceagle05 : 1/21/2021 3:03 pm : link
but the puzzling thing is he was pretty much a consensus lottery pick. I know there are plenty of lottery picks who turn into nobodies, but it's odd to think anyone thought highly of him. Even his Instagram workout videos are terrible, and those make everyone look like Michael Jordan.
Frank  
TyreeHelmet : 1/21/2021 3:12 pm : link
I remember at the draft his comp was George Hill and being pissed about it at the time. But I think we would all be happy if he approached George Hill which isn't looking likely.

Frank is a good nba defender but he is a horrendous offensive player. Playing shorthanded on offense in the NBA kills a team. Its nice having defense but you can't be that bad on offense and survive in the league. Not to mention he's always got an injury...When is even expected back?

Its a shame too because that 2017 draft was loaded.
RE: Frank clearly an end of the bench  
Greg from LI : 1/21/2021 3:16 pm : link
In comment 15130082 GGGGmen said:
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NBA "role" player. Does nothing exceptionally well and can't create his own shot or get others involved.

Man, Donovan Mitchell was there.


So was Bam Adebayo
Wouldn't shock me  
GGGGmen : 1/21/2021 3:16 pm : link
if his rookie deal expires and he heads overseas.
I just don’t get it. Drafting a guard in top 10  
Carl in CT : 1/21/2021 4:30 pm : link
Has to have a handle (doesn’t) and a shot (doesn’t) and athletism ( doesn’t). I get the size, defense and intelligence but we were talking too 10. Bust.
Yea he could go play in France  
Carl in CT : 1/21/2021 4:31 pm : link
With our last French bust (who we took over Ron Artest).
RE: ...  
santacruzom : 1/21/2021 4:36 pm : link
In comment 15129576 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Going to be a tough game. Dubs are hot.


Yeah but this will be the second leg of a back to back. Granted, their starters were able to get a bunch of rest because the game wasn't terribly competitive.

This Warriors team is very fun to watch. I swear, last night half the team just wanted to throw lob passes to Wiseman and watch him dunk.
Warriors commentators  
santacruzom : 1/21/2021 4:39 pm : link
were sincerely anticpating a really tough game tonight though. They have a lot of respect for the Knicks' D and are concerned about a lot of turnovers.
That move Steph made to hit the dagger three  
bceagle05 : 1/21/2021 4:56 pm : link
against the Lakers was a thing of beauty - the handles, the step back and the crazy range to drain the shot. He's one of the most entertaining basketball players ever.
RE: RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2021 5:36 pm : link
In comment 15130169 santacruzom said:
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In comment 15129576 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Going to be a tough game. Dubs are hot.



Yeah but this will be the second leg of a back to back. Granted, their starters were able to get a bunch of rest because the game wasn't terribly competitive.

This Warriors team is very fun to watch. I swear, last night half the team just wanted to throw lob passes to Wiseman and watch him dunk.


They have played a lot better since Draymond is like their point guard and Steph moved off the ball
Damian Lillard basically talked shit about the Knicks  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2021 7:30 pm : link
basically said of the Knicks good start, he said that shit wont last and said you got another week before same old knicks..
RE: RE: Lol, Pre COVID-19  
jpkmets : 1/21/2021 7:36 pm : link
In comment 15130005 Jim in Fairfax said:
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In comment 15130000 jpkmets said:


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not precocious. Typing like Walt Frazier. Definitely nap time.



Yeah....Dozing and prosing.


Hahah that was excellent.
RE: Damian Lillard basically talked shit about the Knicks  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/21/2021 7:37 pm : link
In comment 15130301 nygiants16 said:
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basically said of the Knicks good start, he said that shit wont last and said you got another week before same old knicks..


Dame might be right. Who knows? He's a helluva player who I wish was a Knick, Haha.
Frank is the closest thing to a good player Knicks fans have seen  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/21/2021 7:43 pm : link
since Porzingis. Think about how deeply sad that is by the way


That's why he has a fan club. Because there was no one else to root for.

Now there's Quickley, an actual good player. So why waste words on Frank.
RE: Damian Lillard basically talked shit about the Knicks  
BigBlueShock : 1/21/2021 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15130301 nygiants16 said:
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basically said of the Knicks good start, he said that shit wont last and said you got another week before same old knicks..

Why would he be commenting on the Knicks at all?
Watching Lakers and  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/21/2021 8:23 pm : link
I think Milwaukee or Dallas with these uniforms. Haha. It's the Bucks.
RE: RE: Damian Lillard basically talked shit about the Knicks  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2021 8:25 pm : link
In comment 15130324 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 15130301 nygiants16 said:


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basically said of the Knicks good start, he said that shit wont last and said you got another week before same old knicks..


Why would he be commenting on the Knicks at all?


One of the hosts of the show he was on is a Knicks fan
decent  
Del Shofner : 1/21/2021 10:18 pm : link
start
Every time i watch Oubre  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2021 10:19 pm : link
he seems like such a douche
LFG  
adamg : 1/21/2021 10:21 pm : link
.
When did Bullock  
Carl in CT : 1/21/2021 10:21 pm : link
Learn to shoot
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