In 2021, that applies to four Giants players, with their cap hit increase noted:
- G Will Hernandez: From $2.37 million to $3.05 million
- EDGE Lorenzo Carter: From $1.299 million to $2.44 million
- DT B.J. Hill: From $1.28 million to $2.44 million
- CB Isaac Yiadom: From $954,250 to $2.18 million
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Good by several players.
Good by several players.
The article mentioned the extension for Logan Ryan being a big part of it.
Too many holes in the dike...especially on O.
Can the NFL force a team to cut players to get under the cap?
Too many holes in the dike...especially on O.
Have to resign big Leo. Focus the draft on offense.
Too many holes in the dike...especially on O.
You don't let the best player on your team go. It won't be happening.
This is such a dumb take, IDK why I am replying.
You realize that BJ Hill might be why the Giants can alliw Tomlinson (or Williams) to leave if they can't agree to future terms?
And you can't absolutely can't count injuries fairly against any draft pick.
Is Dak Prescott now a lousy 4th round pick?
You really need to take a closer look at Reese's and Ross's drafting to gain some perspective IMO.
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just around $7 mill left at years end. So not sure those small increases would do that.
Good by several players.
The article mentioned the extension for Logan Ryan being a big part of it.
Vin, I believe the Giants must have known something about Nate Solder's plan going forward when they signed Ryan to a double digit AAV deal. Again, Pat Traina said she believes Solder plans to retire.
Can the NFL force a team to cut players to get under the cap?
Yes, Yes, and Yes.
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Sounds like a job for BBI Capologist djm.
Former Enron accountant... ;)
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just around $7 mill left at years end. So not sure those small increases would do that.
Good by several players.
The article mentioned the extension for Logan Ryan being a big part of it.
Vin, I believe the Giants must have known something about Nate Solder's plan going forward when they signed Ryan to a double digit AAV deal. Again, Pat Traina said she believes Solder plans to retire.
The best thing for Giants would be to designate him a post June 1st cut rather than a retirement, as it'd move a portion of the bonus into the following year.
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to support big dollars for Team LW.
Too many holes in the dike...especially on O.
Have to resign big Leo. Focus the draft on offense.
I don't think we can do both of these things now, so I pose this question...
What's more important - re-signing LW or getting serious offensive upgrades for DJones, who plays the more critical position?
With a QB on a rookie contract at that.
Hell, we might have to cut everyone!!
Ignorance on the cap abounds here and some are more than happy to relish in the ignorance
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to support big dollars for Team LW.
Too many holes in the dike...especially on O.
Have to resign big Leo. Focus the draft on offense.
I don't think we can do both of these things now, so I pose this question...
What's more important - re-signing LW or getting serious offensive upgrades for DJones, who plays the more critical position?
I try and keep the defense intact, as much as possible. Keep that unit strong. I was even in the camp that would take Surtain in the first round of the draft, and focus on offense with our remaining picks.
With this information, I would resign big Leo, go bargain hunting on offensive weapons, and focus the draft (at least first 2-3 rounds) on offense.
I understand the idea that you get as many (proven) weapons for DJ as possible for him to succeed. However, at some point, your quarterback has to elevate those around him. If DJ can't do that with some mid-level free agents and some top level draft talent, he may not be the guy for us long term.
- Much Ado About Nothing
This isn’t necessarily true. Let this play out. There is more to come and no one here can predict what that us.
It asked what was the best cap situation
1) Being $10M over the cap
2) Being $10M under the cap
3) Being $40M under the cap
4) Being $80M under the cap
The results were predictable - they went in order of 4,3,2,1.
Less than 20% chose 2.
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That the Giants were doing great with the salary cap. We will be lucky to sign Williams now after all the cuts:
Hell, we might have to cut everyone!!
Ignorance on the cap abounds here and some are more than happy to relish in the ignorance
Ignorance is thinking that we are going after all these big name Free Agents when we don’t have any space. Cutting a few guys might lead us to re-sign Williams but not much more.
*Star RB on rookie deal
*the worst set of WRs in the NFL with no star power. #1 WR a 5th round pick on rookie deal
*only TE of note is on rookie deal
*Young OL with a bunch of cost controlled players other than Solder
*The 2 great DL we have are both UFA so are not part of that cap number
*We have 1 somewhat expensive LB - Martinez
*We have 2 somewhat expensive DBs - Braberry & Ryan. the rest are on rookie deals or bargain bin
The team is devoid of talent everywhere and needs frontline talent at almost every position group.
And we're over the cap. Unreal.
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just around $7 mill left at years end. So not sure those small increases would do that.
Good by several players.
The article mentioned the extension for Logan Ryan being a big part of it.
Vin, I believe the Giants must have known something about Nate Solder's plan going forward when they signed Ryan to a double digit AAV deal. Again, Pat Traina said she believes Solder plans to retire.
And what are the cap ramifications if he does retire?
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to support big dollars for Team LW.
Too many holes in the dike...especially on O.
You don't let the best player on your team go. It won't be happening.
Agreed. If you don't resign LW, you know exactly who will be signing him. The Eagles, WFT or Dallas like usual.
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That the Giants were doing great with the salary cap. We will be lucky to sign Williams now after all the cuts:
Hell, we might have to cut everyone!!
Ignorance on the cap abounds here and some are more than happy to relish in the ignorance
Ignorance is thinking that we are going after all these big name Free Agents when we don’t have any space. Cutting a few guys might lead us to re-sign Williams but not much more.
Who is thinking we're going after a bunch of big name FA's?? Where are these calls for signing a bunch of high-ticket guys?
We'll have the cap space to sign LW, and either Tomlinson or a mid-high target in FA. And probably enough for 3-4 low-mid signings. Then we'll have enough cap for the salaries and draftees. We'll do some cuts and restructures that will give us the room.
When all nets out, we'll likely be in the $7M range under the cap.
Do sites like SporTrac and OverTheCap know about them when they publish their data?
Which will result in ~10 mil savings vs the 2021 cap.
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In comment 15129777 JoeyBigBlue said:
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That the Giants were doing great with the salary cap. We will be lucky to sign Williams now after all the cuts:
Hell, we might have to cut everyone!!
Ignorance on the cap abounds here and some are more than happy to relish in the ignorance
Ignorance is thinking that we are going after all these big name Free Agents when we don’t have any space. Cutting a few guys might lead us to re-sign Williams but not much more.
Who is thinking we're going after a bunch of big name FA's?? Where are these calls for signing a bunch of high-ticket guys?
We'll have the cap space to sign LW, and either Tomlinson or a mid-high target in FA. And probably enough for 3-4 low-mid signings. Then we'll have enough cap for the salaries and draftees. We'll do some cuts and restructures that will give us the room.
When all nets out, we'll likely be in the $7M range under the cap.
I guess you’ve missed all threads calling for Golloday, Robinson, Thuney, and etc. ..
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just around $7 mill left at years end. So not sure those small increases would do that.
Good by several players.
The article mentioned the extension for Logan Ryan being a big part of it.
Ryan cut into it when they signed the deal. It was known then and I a certain OTC adjusted and I think they went from $13 or $17 mill down to $7 after that.
Of course we do not know the true numbers, just what OTC or Sportrac tell us.
Maybe, but that will have more to do with what they plan for BJ Hill and Lawrence than it does with 2021 cap limitations.
What I have seen is a bunch of posters asking how a team with a QB can be over the cap - when being over the cap right now is a technicality.
p.s.--The salary cap will wind up a lot closer to $195M than $175M when all is said and done.
What I have seen is a bunch of posters asking how a team with a QB can be over the cap - when being over the cap right now is a technicality.
So you think we can sign Williams plus a big name Free agent? Or just one big name Free Agent? I’m confused.
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them. We will have the ability to sign one of them. Who is calling for all 3 or multiple guys??
What I have seen is a bunch of posters asking how a team with a QB can be over the cap - when being over the cap right now is a technicality.
So you think we can sign Williams plus a big name Free agent? Or just one big name Free Agent? I’m confused.
You could be less confused by reading up above:
"We'll have the cap space to sign LW, and either Tomlinson or a mid-high target in FA. And probably enough for 3-4 low-mid signings. Then we'll have enough cap for the salaries and draftees. We'll do some cuts and restructures that will give us the room.
When all nets out, we'll likely be in the $7M range under the cap."
Somehow, I'm fairly confident you'll remain confused.
*Star RB on rookie deal
*the worst set of WRs in the NFL with no star power. #1 WR a 5th round pick on rookie deal
*only TE of note is on rookie deal
*Young OL with a bunch of cost controlled players other than Solder
*The 2 great DL we have are both UFA so are not part of that cap number
*We have 1 somewhat expensive LB - Martinez
*We have 2 somewhat expensive DBs - Braberry & Ryan. the rest are on rookie deals or bargain bin
The team is devoid of talent everywhere and needs frontline talent at almost every position group.
And we're over the cap. Unreal.
This is a good post (if accurate).
Couple of points to note, that star RB on his rookie deal is a very expensive rookie. In fact, would be surprised if Giants aren't way up there on cost for the whole RB corps versus the rest of the league. RG Zietler is costly too on the OL. Is that true both Williams and Tomlinson are not part of those numbers?
This franchise really should think about rebuilding differently.
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them. We will have the ability to sign one of them. Who is calling for all 3 or multiple guys??
What I have seen is a bunch of posters asking how a team with a QB can be over the cap - when being over the cap right now is a technicality.
So you think we can sign Williams plus a big name Free agent? Or just one big name Free Agent? I’m confused.
You could be less confused by reading up above:
"We'll have the cap space to sign LW, and either Tomlinson or a mid-high target in FA. And probably enough for 3-4 low-mid signings. Then we'll have enough cap for the salaries and draftees. We'll do some cuts and restructures that will give us the room.
When all nets out, we'll likely be in the $7M range under the cap."
Somehow, I'm fairly confident you'll remain confused.
You’re a snarky little bitch aren’t you? Unless you cut half the team that isn’t happening. But keep believing whatever you want.
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to support big dollars for Team LW.
Too many holes in the dike...especially on O.
Have to resign big Leo. Focus the draft on offense.
I don't think we can do both of these things now, so I pose this question...
What's more important - re-signing LW or getting serious offensive upgrades for DJones, who plays the more critical position?
I understand the idea that you get as many (proven) weapons for DJ as possible for him to succeed. However, at some point, your quarterback has to elevate those around him. If DJ can't do that with some mid-level free agents and some top level draft talent, he may not be the guy for us long term.
Well, now you are speaking my language of what a high QB selection should do.
But I just don't think he has that in him. He's trending much closer to a game manager type.