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DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:12 pm
-Half a dozen teams including the Mets monitoring JBJ. His price is reportedly "very high"

-No indication the Mets are in on Bauer

-Mets still unwilling to go multiple years for Hand

-Kevin Howard new farm director
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Profar  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:13 pm : link
3 for 21 with SD. I would have given him that.
Heyman  
ZGiants98 : 1/22/2021 12:19 pm : link
3 minutes ago
@JonHeyman

Mets have JBJ on their radar. At least 5 teams still monitoring CF: Phils, Red Sox, Astros and Rockies. It’s a pretty thin group now. Pillar is the next best option with Almora, Marisnick among others. Mets would prefer a righty hitter but JBJ would give them a very strong OF.
Not excited at all for  
ZGiants98 : 1/22/2021 12:19 pm : link
JBJ.

Would rather just bring back Marisnick for cheap.
Pass  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:19 pm : link
on Arrieta (throwing for teams). He hasn't pitched well since 2018, about to turn 35 and reportedly a real dickhead.
RE: Not excited at all for  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:20 pm : link
In comment 15130807 ZGiants98 said:
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JBJ.

Would rather just bring back Marisnick for cheap.


I'm with you. Heard off the record he's been asking for 5 years. He won't get that but I wouldn't even go more than 2 and even then wouldn't bee over the moon.
Apologies  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:25 pm : link
to whoever suggested it, and the upside is roughly zero but Sanchez is probably the best of the "workout guys" outside of Paxton who will get real MLB money. could be as good as any of their current #5 options.
if it were me JBJ would be leverage in trade talks  
Eric on Li : 1/22/2021 12:31 pm : link
and the main guy I'd be targeting is Cain, though I'd consider Margot also if the Rays are willing to move him. There are some guys on the roster I could see both MIL and TB could being interested in. Either would be more efficient then spending multi-year dollars on JBJ especially if he has a healthy market.
Kiermier  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:34 pm : link
"is not going anywhere" per Marc Tompkin. cheap team and all the Rays apparently view Kiermier as a key to what they do.
Almora  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:36 pm : link
flat out sucks. I deep dove into his numbers and there is "nothing" there outside of his age.
RE: Kiermier  
Eric on Li : 1/22/2021 12:36 pm : link
In comment 15130823 DanMetroMan said:
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"is not going anywhere" per Marc Tompkin. cheap team and all the Rays apparently view Kiermier as a key to what they do.


That's why I think Margot may be a good target. The 2 of them are sort of redundant. JDD would be a nice compliment to Choi.
Eric's in love  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:38 pm : link

Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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Mets’ main targets at moment appear to be JBJ, Kike’ and pen (Hand?). Word is, while interested Mets aren’t rushing to sign top pitcher Trevor Bauer. Looking to see how multiple pieces could line up first.
RE: Eric's in love  
Eric on Li : 1/22/2021 12:40 pm : link
In comment 15130831 DanMetroMan said:
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Jon Heyman
@JonHeyman
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5m
Mets’ main targets at moment appear to be JBJ, Kike’ and pen (Hand?). Word is, while interested Mets aren’t rushing to sign top pitcher Trevor Bauer. Looking to see how multiple pieces could line up first.


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I think Marisnick  
allstarjim : 1/22/2021 12:40 pm : link
Also. He's what they need. A good defensive CFer, and he's a righty hitter. And if he has to make an extended run as a starter, he'll at least hit for power and steal some bases as a trade-off for living with his terrible OBP.
RE: I think Marisnick  
Eric on Li : 1/22/2021 12:41 pm : link
In comment 15130836 allstarjim said:
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Also. He's what they need. A good defensive CFer, and he's a righty hitter. And if he has to make an extended run as a starter, he'll at least hit for power and steal some bases as a trade-off for living with his terrible OBP.


Agreed - I'd probably be happier with Marisnick on a cheap deal allowing them to sign Hand than JBJ on a bigger deal that precludes a signing like Hand.
Almora  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:45 pm : link
-5 DRS in 2019, 0 in 2020. Yuckarooni
I'd  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:47 pm : link
bring back Hamilton on a split deal if possible.
RE: I'd  
Eric on Li : 1/22/2021 12:49 pm : link
In comment 15130845 DanMetroMan said:
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bring back Hamilton on a split deal if possible.


ST invites for Hamilton, Mallex, Broxton, and Marisnick just to fuck with BVW.
Hamilton  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 12:51 pm : link
is still a high-level defensive player and still very, very fast. We could do worse as an extra OF (obviously not a starter). But defense for Dom or JDD (when they are in the OF) or any time Nimmo makes a CF start. Also a pinch runner for Alonso/Dom/JDD etc.
RE: Hamilton  
Eric on Li : 1/22/2021 12:59 pm : link
In comment 15130854 DanMetroMan said:
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is still a high-level defensive player and still very, very fast. We could do worse as an extra OF (obviously not a starter). But defense for Dom or JDD (when they are in the OF) or any time Nimmo makes a CF start. Also a pinch runner for Alonso/Dom/JDD etc.


Even beyond that, if they get a DH, there is going to be playing time for a 3rd OF'er other than Nimmo/Conforto. Maybe they give JDD time in LF, or someone like Kike time, but I'd imagine any defensive CF they get will have an opportunity to play a good chunk of innings.
,  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 1:05 pm : link
There are a bunch of interesting/solid RP's still available. Would love to see the Mets grab one even if they miss out on Hand. Soria for one.
RE: Profar  
Eric on Li : 1/22/2021 1:09 pm : link
In comment 15130802 DanMetroMan said:
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3 for 21 with SD. I would have given him that.


His D seems bad across the board in the IF and not played much in CF so not sure where he'd fit in here.

Btw this deal is probably so far the best example of the owner's financial doomsday being total bs. He got the AAV predicted but got 2 extra years amidst a lot of alternatives (as compared to Mccann where there were few alternatives). Can't wait to hear more bs leak out about league financials as they get closer to needing a deal in ST.
Bring back Juan Lagares or some  
Metnut : 1/22/2021 1:09 pm : link
other player like that rather than give a big deal to Bradley. Use the money to improve the pen/SP and the IF.
RE: ,  
Eric on Li : 1/22/2021 1:10 pm : link
In comment 15130866 DanMetroMan said:
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There are a bunch of interesting/solid RP's still available. Would love to see the Mets grab one even if they miss out on Hand. Soria for one.


Agreed. Castro, Brach, Gsellman shouldn't be guaranteed roster spots.
RE: Apologies  
Named Later : 1/22/2021 1:17 pm : link
In comment 15130815 DanMetroMan said:
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to whoever suggested it, and the upside is roughly zero but Sanchez is probably the best of the "workout guys" outside of Paxton who will get real MLB money. could be as good as any of their current #5 options.



I suggested Anibal Sanchez on here about 10 days ago....I threw Gio Gonzo's name out there too.

I'm just looking for someone (anyone) to replace Matz, who I think is psychologically scarred. I hope he's been seeing a Sports Psychologist in the off-season.

Dan, can you post that list of available pitchers sorted by WAR ??
Someone  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 1:18 pm : link
on twitter suggested Villar, I like that idea
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RE: RE: Apologies  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 1:23 pm : link
In comment 15130884 Named Later said:
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In comment 15130815 DanMetroMan said:


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to whoever suggested it, and the upside is roughly zero but Sanchez is probably the best of the "workout guys" outside of Paxton who will get real MLB money. could be as good as any of their current #5 options.




I suggested Anibal Sanchez on here about 10 days ago....I threw Gio Gonzo's name out there too.

I'm just looking for someone (anyone) to replace Matz, who I think is psychologically scarred. I hope he's been seeing a Sports Psychologist in the off-season.

Dan, can you post that list of available pitchers sorted by WAR ??


Fangraphs has Bauer, Tanaka, Paxton, Porcello, Archer (it doesn't take into account his injury so I'd ignore this one), Odorizzi, Richards, Shoemaker, Wainwright, Anderson, Walker, Rodon (in order) in terms of projected 2021 fWAR
RE: RE: I'd  
KDavies : 1/22/2021 1:26 pm : link
In comment 15130848 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 15130845 DanMetroMan said:


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bring back Hamilton on a split deal if possible.



ST invites for Hamilton, Mallex, Broxton, and Marisnick just to fuck with BVW.


lol
..  
Named Later : 1/22/2021 1:27 pm : link
I expected more from Porcello last year....maybe he gets another chance ?

I don't think Matz is going to make it out of Spring Training.
Wouldn’t mind taking a flier  
Metnut : 1/22/2021 1:27 pm : link
on Garrett Richards for cheap.
RE: Someone  
KDavies : 1/22/2021 1:35 pm : link
In comment 15130885 DanMetroMan said:
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on twitter suggested Villar, I like that idea Link - ( New Window )


He would be a very good 2B option. Had an off year last year, so could get him on a bit of a discount. He'd probably be hitting 9th if there is a DH
RE: RE: Someone  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 1:37 pm : link
In comment 15130899 KDavies said:
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In comment 15130885 DanMetroMan said:


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on twitter suggested Villar, I like that idea Link - ( New Window )



He would be a very good 2B option. Had an off year last year, so could get him on a bit of a discount. He'd probably be hitting 9th if there is a DH


Was all-star level good in 2019, solid in 2018, still only going to be 30.
if they signed jackie bradley jr  
cactus : 1/22/2021 1:39 pm : link
i'd still be more excited to see mallex smith out there in cf
"Rumor"  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 1:54 pm : link
the Mets are one of 6 teams in on Ozuna. Hector Gomez is known to routinely be complete BS. He's the guy who was pushing the Castillo was headed to the Yankees BS. Jeff Passan openly called Gomez a BSer.
.  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 1:58 pm : link

Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
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Jan 17
Luis Castillo has not been traded to the Yankees.

Stop believing people who consistently get things wrong.
RE:  
KDavies : 1/22/2021 2:07 pm : link
In comment 15130917 DanMetroMan said:
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the Mets are one of 6 teams in on Ozuna. Hector Gomez is known to routinely be complete BS. He's the guy who was pushing the Castillo was headed to the Yankees BS. Jeff Passan openly called Gomez a BSer.


Yeah, I don't buy it. That would certainly be interesting. Mash teams to death
RE: RE:  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 2:16 pm : link
In comment 15130934 KDavies said:
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In comment 15130917 DanMetroMan said:


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the Mets are one of 6 teams in on Ozuna. Hector Gomez is known to routinely be complete BS. He's the guy who was pushing the Castillo was headed to the Yankees BS. Jeff Passan openly called Gomez a BSer.



Yeah, I don't buy it. That would certainly be interesting. Mash teams to death


Gomez legit makes things up (like the Castillo trade). He said the Mets hired Eduardo Perez as their manager, that Machado was signing with the White Sox etc. He's viewed as a joke.
Signing a player like  
Rory : 1/22/2021 4:04 pm : link
JBB has an impact on the whole OF. Nimmo would move to RF and MC would move to LF.

At 30 yrs old and showing ability to hit a bit better for average and power I would consider at 3 year deal.

.  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 4:40 pm : link
Jon Morosi
@jonmorosi
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Source: Enrique Hernández and #RedSox have made progress on a deal.
@mlb

@MLBNetwork
Looks  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 4:43 pm : link
like Profar back to SD cost the Mets Hernandez
Expectation  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 4:50 pm : link
is Hernandez will sign with Boston.
I obviously wish we hired him over BVW but Chaim has had a weird  
Eric on Li : 1/22/2021 5:24 pm : link
couple years in Boston. Hard to see exactly what he's trying to do. It somehow does feel kind of like TB, because TB makes those random unexpected moves, only with TB you understand it because they have to be way outside the box to win. If they don't behave different they are going to lose. In Boston he doesn't need to reinvent the wheel.

Either way I hope their deal with Kike falls apart and the NYM can swoop in. But not counting on it, they seem to have targeted him all offseason.
Boston  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 5:30 pm : link
apparently wanted Profar but he took less AAV to go back to SD, which apparently caused them to up their offer to Hernandez.
Martino  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 6:21 pm : link
Says if Bauer were willing to take a short term deal at around 30 per the Mets might be interested (and would deal Matz)
RE: Martino  
ZGiants98 : 1/22/2021 7:52 pm : link
In comment 15131216 DanMetroMan said:
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Says if Bauer were willing to take a short term deal at around 30 per the Mets might be interested (and would deal Matz)


Wow. I don't even want him, but that sure is interesting.
Based on their last full healthy seasons  
ZGiants98 : 1/22/2021 7:54 pm : link
You'd basically have 5 starting pitchers in the top 25 overall in fWAR when Noah returns. That's absolutely ridiculous. lol
For my 25 million  
ZGiants98 : 1/22/2021 7:57 pm : link
If that's roughly the LT line, Im signing Hand, Turner, and Marisnick and inviting a few guys like Gio to ST for cheap and calling it a day. Should get us right about there.

There might be more interesting trade packages out there featuring Bryant, Arenado, Suarez.... But none seem realistic.

Z  
CMicks3110 : 1/22/2021 8:03 pm : link
what are your actual predictions. Also, do you expect any surprises?
RE: I obviously wish we hired him over BVW but Chaim has had a weird  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 8:15 pm : link
In comment 15131162 Eric on Li said:
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couple years in Boston. Hard to see exactly what he's trying to do. It somehow does feel kind of like TB, because TB makes those random unexpected moves, only with TB you understand it because they have to be way outside the box to win. If they don't behave different they are going to lose. In Boston he doesn't need to reinvent the wheel.

Either way I hope their deal with Kike falls apart and the NYM can swoop in. But not counting on it, they seem to have targeted him all offseason.


Hernandez has signed with Boston
2  
DanMetroMan : 1/22/2021 8:27 pm : link
Years 14 for Hernandez
disappointing  
Eric on Li : 1/22/2021 8:32 pm : link
there are a lot of other good players out there to move on to but none checked both boxes filling multiple roles in the IF and OF. He was a 2 for 1.
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