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Route 9 : 1/22/2021 4:26 pm
NFL Network is playing Chiefs Bills from January 1994. The AFC Championship Game. Joe Montana wearing a Chiefs jersey. Which Buffalo team do you think was the best?

I forgot how damm rowdy those Buffalo fans were for these games.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/22/2021 4:27 pm : link
The '90 team, without ?.
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Route 9 : 1/22/2021 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15131099 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The '90 team, without ?.


Yes. Who beat them?
Montana...  
Route 9 : 1/22/2021 4:32 pm : link
Easy catch turned into an interception could've made it 20-13 before halftime. Oops.
The 1991 Bills may have beent eh best of that group  
truebluelarry : 1/22/2021 4:42 pm : link
but nobody was beating the Redskins that year.

The 1993 Super Bowl is the one I think they should have one. they were up at halftime, but turtled after losing a fumble that lead to a game tying score.
The '90 team the Giants beat...  
bw in dc : 1/22/2021 4:50 pm : link
They were all younger and at their physical peak.

To get to four consecutive SBs is an incredible accomplishment. They were absolutely a GREAT team...
This thread makes me realize what a waste NFL Net is  
Chris684 : 1/22/2021 4:50 pm : link
They should be showing games like these ALL the time.

Instead we got pointless player rankings and top 10 lists.

What a waste.
I'd say 1990, yeah  
Greg from LI : 1/22/2021 4:53 pm : link
The K gun was still pretty new and defenses hadn't quite caught up to it yet. Guys like Thomas, Kelly, Smith, Bennett, et al were in the prime of their careers, mid-late 20s. The only old guy I can remember on that team was James Lofton. They also had an aura to them that year as the team to beat that the Giants kind of punctured. Then the Redskins smoked them in XXVI, and they were kind of joke by the time they played the Cowboys.
RE: This thread makes me realize what a waste NFL Net is  
Route 9 : 1/22/2021 4:55 pm : link
In comment 15131125 Chris684 said:
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They should be showing games like these ALL the time.

Instead we got pointless player rankings and top 10 lists.

What a waste.


Good morning football has actually grown on me over recent time.

Yeah. They show top 10 lists made in 2007.
Agree the 1990 team was the best  
arniefez : 1/22/2021 5:01 pm : link
Buffalo team and the 1990 Giants were running on fumes with their backup QB and still beat them. The greatest back to back weeks of Giants football ever and the greatest coaching accomplishment of any NFL team ever by Parcells & Belichick. The entire 1990 Giants season was master class of great coaching.
RE: Agree the 1990 team was the best  
bw in dc : 1/22/2021 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15131138 arniefez said:
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Buffalo team and the 1990 Giants were running on fumes with their backup QB and still beat them. The greatest back to back weeks of Giants football ever and the greatest coaching accomplishment of any NFL team ever by Parcells & Belichick. The entire 1990 Giants season was master class of great coaching.


Exactly - Nothing to add to this at all.
RE: Agree the 1990 team was the best  
Route 9 : 1/22/2021 5:05 pm : link
In comment 15131138 arniefez said:
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Buffalo team and the 1990 Giants were running on fumes with their backup QB and still beat them. The greatest back to back weeks of Giants football ever and the greatest coaching accomplishment of any NFL team ever by Parcells & Belichick. The entire 1990 Giants season was master class of great coaching.


Great post. I was just arguing about that with some useless Eagle fan.
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Route 9 : 1/22/2021 5:06 pm : link
My apologies for being redundant. It's known Eagle fans are synonymous with being useless.
1990 was their best team  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/22/2021 5:11 pm : link
Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith Cornelius Bennett and Andre Read all in their prime, and James Lofton was still a very good WR.
I would say 90 as well  
mpinmaine : 1/22/2021 5:14 pm : link
but I am biased
Kudos to the Bills Mafia  
solarmike : 1/22/2021 5:23 pm : link
Although I am a Giant's admirer, I grew up in WNY State. Gotta love the devoted fans!
RE: RE: Agree the 1990 team was the best  
mfsd : 1/22/2021 5:24 pm : link
In comment 15131140 Route 9 said:
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In comment 15131138 arniefez said:


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Buffalo team and the 1990 Giants were running on fumes with their backup QB and still beat them. The greatest back to back weeks of Giants football ever and the greatest coaching accomplishment of any NFL team ever by Parcells & Belichick. The entire 1990 Giants season was master class of great coaching.



Great post. I was just arguing about that with some useless Eagle fan.


+3

Lost a bit in the well known history of Belichick’s Super Bowl 25 defensive game plan being in the Hall of Fame, is the way he had our guys play a different front in each of our 3 playoff games.

Against the Bears, led by a strong running game with Neal Anderson in his prime, our base defense was a 5-2 for much of the game.

Against the Montana 49ers, I believe we played primarily a 4-2-5 nickel package. Could have been more of a 3-3-5

In the Super Bowl, a 2-3-6. Where he famously told the defense to win, Thurman Thomas need to gain over 100 yards against us.

All of that with a defense that was built as a 3-4.

Legendary coaching achievement.
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Route 9 : 1/22/2021 5:41 pm : link
Holy shit.

Marv Levy is still cooking. 95 years young.
1990 Bills team was loaded on both sides of the ball  
LBH15 : 1/22/2021 6:05 pm : link
and even special teams.

It took a hell of an effort by Giant players and coaches to pull out that Super Bowl win.

A hell of an effort for 60 minutes. Good thing it wasn't 61.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/22/2021 6:17 pm : link
Erdhadt deserves a ton of praise too. We dominated the TOP. It just cracks me up because BB-who is the GOAT without ?-gets so much praise for holding Buffalo to 19 points when the Bills ONLY had the ball for 19 & change minutes, Haha.
That 1990 Bills team was awesome.  
Red Dog : 1/22/2021 6:37 pm : link
But the 1990 GIANTS were even better.

One take away from that Super Bowl was that it was the ONLY time I EVER saw Andre Reed mentally defeated.

Reed was a superior receiver - and the best one on the Bills that year - who made his living going over the middle.

But the GIANTS LBs just beat the living shit out of him every time he stuck his nose anywhere in the short zone between the tackles.

By the third quarter you could see that he wanted no part of that any more. He was absolutely beaten mentally and physically by the GIANTS LBs.
Red Dog.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/22/2021 6:40 pm : link
Reed said afterwards that was the hardest he had ever been hit in a football game.
That 1990 Giants D taking on that 1990 Bills’ Offense...  
Leg of Theismann : 1/22/2021 7:15 pm : link
Seems like it may have been one of the greatest D vs. O SB matchups in history.

Is there a better one? ...

Rams vs. Pats in ‘01 maybe comes close, but I don’t think so actually. Pats didn’t have even close to as great as a D as the ‘90 Giants , but they just happened to play well enough to upset the Rams that day thanks to Belichick’s genius.

Dolphins vs. 49ers in ‘85 ? I don’t know. I’m legit asking. Seems like that 1990 super bowl was the best one.
Oh my bad  
Leg of Theismann : 1/22/2021 7:22 pm : link
49ers did not have a great defense that year. I don’t know why I was thinking they did.
Well I guess 9ers D was  
Leg of Theismann : 1/22/2021 7:24 pm : link
10th in yards allowed but 1st in points allowed . So I guess they were a good D but not one of the greatest ever .
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Route 9 : 1/22/2021 7:37 pm : link
Denver was a #1 offense in 2013 and Seattle was the #1 defense.

Denver set all of those records, Peyton Manning 55 TD throws but they got their asses kicked by Seattle in the Jersey Bowl, so I'm not sure if that game would meet the requirements.
I think 1990 was their best shot - they had a good team  
PatersonPlank : 1/22/2021 7:59 pm : link
but of course we always win the Super Bowls we are in
RE: That 1990 Bills team was awesome.  
Greg from LI : 1/22/2021 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15131225 Red Dog said:
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But the 1990 GIANTS were even better.

One take away from that Super Bowl was that it was the ONLY time I EVER saw Andre Reed mentally defeated.

Reed was a superior receiver - and the best one on the Bills that year - who made his living going over the middle.

But the GIANTS LBs just beat the living shit out of him every time he stuck his nose anywhere in the short zone between the tackles.

By the third quarter you could see that he wanted no part of that any more. He was absolutely beaten mentally and physically by the GIANTS LBs.


I kept the SI Super Bowl issue for many years afterwards and I still remember Reed's postgame comments from it - "I've never been hit that hard in my life, they bruised up my whole body"
Good doc by NFL Network  
BigBlue89 : 1/22/2021 9:13 pm : link
On those 90s Bills and how close they kept getting.

America's Game Missing Rings - 1990 Buffalo Bills
RE: I think 1990 was their best shot - they had a good team  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/22/2021 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15131289 PatersonPlank said:
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but of course we always win the Super Bowls we are in


Except XXXV, which I want erased from my mind.
RE: Well I guess 9ers D was  
NINEster : 1/23/2021 2:55 pm : link
In comment 15131258 Leg of Theismann said:
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10th in yards allowed but 1st in points allowed . So I guess they were a good D but not one of the greatest ever .


A great defense.

The lead up to that game was Marino vs the 49ers defense, not even Marino vs Montana. Bill Walsh had to make the sarcastic remark in the locker room laying down on the floor "I don't know what we're gonna do with this Dan Marino"....
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Route 9 : 1/23/2021 3:30 pm : link
Watching XXV right now. Lol. I miss cigarette ads. You want to smoke? Who cares?

You don't want to wear a seatbelt? Fuck it.
I was wondering  
BestFeature : 1/23/2021 8:11 pm : link
Did you guys feel like the win in 90 lost its shine when the Bills got trounced in the next 3 Super Bowls and that win we had was by the skin of our teeth?
RE: I was wondering  
Route 9 : 1/23/2021 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15131981 BestFeature said:
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Did you guys feel like the win in 90 lost its shine when the Bills got trounced in the next 3 Super Bowls and that win we had was by the skin of our teeth?


The NFC was a dominant force back then, I remember until Denver won against Green Bay, the NFC championship, it was presumed that team would win the Super Bowl.

The Bills did win the AFC championship game against the LA Raiders 51-3 or something.

Bruce Smith almost broke Mark Gastineau's sack record in week 17.

Winning a Super Bowl with a back up QB when it meant something (unlike Phillys stupid story) never loses any shine.
90 team was their best  
jpkmets : 1/24/2021 3:53 pm : link
And they looked monstrous before SB xxv.

Their playoff performance leading up to the sb was pretty spooky good.

Was more worried about facing that team than the Patriots in 42. We had just played the Pats close and were gaining momentum. But between the aging defense, Hampton’s broken leg, backup QB. What a win that was.
I agree, 90 was the best Bills team  
PatersonPlank : 1/24/2021 4:10 pm : link
Think about it, the Giants had the ball for about 40 minutes the Bills 20. This means for Buffalo to get their 19 pts, they scored 1 pt per minute.

Those back to back 9 minute drives were things of beauty. The last 9 minutes of the 1st half for a TD, and the 1st 9 minutes of the 2nd half for a TD. Including halftime, that was over 30 minutes that Buffalo's offense sat on the sidelines.
RE: I agree, 90 was the best Bills team  
PatersonPlank : 1/24/2021 4:13 pm : link
In comment 15132524 PatersonPlank said:
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Think about it, the Giants had the ball for about 40 minutes the Bills 20. This means for Buffalo to get their 19 pts, they scored 1 pt per minute.

Those back to back 9 minute drives were things of beauty. The last 9 minutes of the 1st half for a TD, and the 1st 9 minutes of the 2nd half for a TD. Including halftime, that was over 30 minutes that Buffalo's offense sat on the sidelines.


Actually it was only 4 minutes at the end of the 1st half. Still thats close to 30 minutes of not playing for the Bills O.
90 was their best  
RasputinPrime : 1/24/2021 7:09 pm : link
and because we took out their heart, they were never able to win one afterwards.
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