The Patriots have been extremely lucky that Belichick has stayed in NE as long as he has. A huge factor was likely having a QB the entire duration in Brady, maybe if he didn’t have Brady it would be different.
But, it got me thinking of Parcells. Unfortunately for me, I was too young to vividly remember those Parcells teams in real time. He left at an awful time after the 1990 Super Bowl, but what if he didn’t? He took some time off and then went to NE and built up a winner in short time, he set the initial foundation for Belichick. He then takes the Jets to the AFC title game after being a hopeless franchise under Kotite. As a painful as it was, he turned around Dallas too.
Simms & LT were at the back end of their careers when he left. He would have had to be part of a rebuild which would include a new QB. That is something Belichick didn’t need to deal with until this season in NE.
I wonder what would have happened if Parcells wasn’t so concerned with his next job and just stayed with the Giants. What if he stayed through the 90’s? Do you think the Giants would have gone right down to the wire with those Dallas teams? Packer teams? Could they have tacked on more Super Bowls?
Assuming Parcells doesn't run into serious health problems the Giants might add one more Super Bowl, either in 1991 or 1993, but that team was getting old and even his coaching skills weren't going to beat SF and Dallas consistently with an aging team.
Meanwhile, Kraft ceded Belichick almost total autonomy in New England. So he didn't really have to worry about fitting into an established process. He developed this process...
And BW don't you ever get bored pushing that same fucking agenda in every fucking thread?
Giants were never going to promote Belichick. This is known. Young didn’t like him, and after his publicly documented fling with a Giants secretary in the 80s, rumor was the Maras didn’t like him either.
Young was enamored with Handley.
but, I do not think it would have gotten any better then the years from 84 - 90. He had a very good team talent wise and got the most out of them.
But, it is no secret that he also wanted to be GM.
"How can you prepare the meal if they won't let you shop for the groceries?"
The Giants were never going to give him both titles and unless whoever was the GM at the time (whether it was George Young or Ernie Acorsi etc ....) continued to bring in excellent talent I don't think he would have matched his success of the Taylor/Simms years.
I hated to see him go but, he left at the right time (imo).
And BW don't you ever get bored pushing that same fucking agenda in every fucking thread?
What agenda here?
Parcells very likely wanted more power with NYG - he of the famous line when he was at New England "...if they want you to cook the dinner, they should let you shop for the groceries..." - but there was no way Welli was going to overhaul their decision making structure. NFW.
Parcells probably could have kept the Giants from hitting the skids, but they were always going to be second fiddle (or worse) to the powerhouse being created in Dallas.
I always thought it was a difficult watching the Giants decline during that decade. But seeing what has happened under the latter years of Reese and now Gettleman is just painful.
that year especially, really enjoyed reading the papers all week as you could follow along as he worked that team into championship form.
The timing of his departure was unfortunate but the Giants still were in the “hire from within the family” mindset so Handley probably still would have gotten the job. Up to that point in time, I think Arnsparger and Perkins were the only HC hires from outside the organization. After that point, Reeves and then Shurmer were outside hires.