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NFT: Yankees trade Ottavino to Boston

DanMetroMan : 1/25/2021 12:17 pm
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Ottavino and a prospect are going to the #RedSox and Bos is taking most of the money. #Yankees @lindseyadler
1st that he had been traded
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i'm a big fan of  
RasputinPrime : 1/25/2021 9:31 pm : link
getting Gardy back on the team and making sure we have flexibility to continue to improve. It's not my money so I won't pretend to know what they can or cannot afford.
I think its time to turn the page on Gardner  
xman : 1/25/2021 10:17 pm : link
the money spent on him would be better served elsewhere. I don't think Gardner would garner 3 million on the open market yet the Yanks routinely hand out 8 million dollar overpay deals . If you are on a budget you can't do that
RE: I think its time to turn the page on Gardner  
RasputinPrime : 1/25/2021 10:37 pm : link
In comment 15134467 xman said:
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the money spent on him would be better served elsewhere. I don't think Gardner would garner 3 million on the open market yet the Yanks routinely hand out 8 million dollar overpay deals . If you are on a budget you can't do that


Gardy should be getting 2M on a one year deal. I'd be surprised if he gets more than that.
RE: I was never an Ottavino  
rich in DC : 1/25/2021 10:48 pm : link
In comment 15134400 section125 said:
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fan. He was fine the 1st year until September, then, splat. He sucked last year.

Loaisiga looked almost as good as Green very often last year and I think Green is their most dependable reliever, followed by Britton then Chapman.

Cessa is actually a decent long man. There are young arms available in the system.


Don’t forget that the Yanks signed old friend Adam Warren to a minor league deal this offseason. He had TJ surgery in September 2019 and is reportedly ready to go in Spring Training. Don’t know if he has anything left or can find a few MPH from the surgery, but he is one to watch.
RE: RE: I was never an Ottavino  
adamg : 1/25/2021 10:50 pm : link
In comment 15134478 rich in DC said:
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fan. He was fine the 1st year until September, then, splat. He sucked last year.

Loaisiga looked almost as good as Green very often last year and I think Green is their most dependable reliever, followed by Britton then Chapman.

Cessa is actually a decent long man. There are young arms available in the system.



Don’t forget that the Yanks signed old friend Adam Warren to a minor league deal this offseason. He had TJ surgery in September 2019 and is reportedly ready to go in Spring Training. Don’t know if he has anything left or can find a few MPH from the surgery, but he is one to watch.
holy shit. he has 9 yankee lives
RE: The Big O  
Saquads26 : 1/26/2021 12:50 am : link
In comment 15134070 Stan in LA said:
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Was not so big. Great move.


Yeah for Boston
Warren is back in the org? No way  
Greg from LI : 1/26/2021 2:04 am : link
He always pitched much better for the Yankees than he did anyone else.
RE: RE: RE: I was never an Ottavino  
section125 : 1/26/2021 4:20 am : link
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fan. He was fine the 1st year until September, then, splat. He sucked last year.

Loaisiga looked almost as good as Green very often last year and I think Green is their most dependable reliever, followed by Britton then Chapman.

Cessa is actually a decent long man. There are young arms available in the system.



Don’t forget that the Yanks signed old friend Adam Warren to a minor league deal this offseason. He had TJ surgery in September 2019 and is reportedly ready to go in Spring Training. Don’t know if he has anything left or can find a few MPH from the surgery, but he is one to watch.

holy shit. he has 9 yankee lives


rich and adamg, Warren is cooked. He was cooked before the time he returned to the Yanks from the Cubs(?). I expect nothing except a look see. Heller is the guy that could do something, he is younger with a better arm. I will not hold my breath on either.

I am not sure just what Cashman is doing with the pitching staff. He has recently not been good at assembling a staff. Actually he has never been too good at a successful SP staff. The bullpen was almost always good and bailed out the SPs. Now it seems both are a hodgepodge of parts. Until this team starts to develop drafted pitchers into successful pitchers he will be chasing dreams and other teams castoffs.

Still crazy to me he let Kahnle go and then chased other TJS patients....
RE: RE: I think its time to turn the page on Gardner  
Carson53 : 1/26/2021 7:56 am : link
In comment 15134474 RasputinPrime said:
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the money spent on him would be better served elsewhere. I don't think Gardner would garner 3 million on the open market yet the Yanks routinely hand out 8 million dollar overpay deals . If you are on a budget you can't do that



Gardy should be getting 2M on a one year deal. I'd be surprised if he gets more than that.
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Now that they have moved Ottavino's salary, I'm thinking
Gardner at about 4 mill...They are done after that.
RE: I never liked him anyway. I don't like relievers in with men on base  
TheMick7 : 1/26/2021 8:06 am : link
In comment 15134062 Victor in CT said:
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that don't know where the ball is going.

Still a little surprised they sent him to Boston though.


Just shows that Cashman had a mandate from Hal to get under the cap & must have not had many teams willing to take Ottavino's contract. So Cash was desperate to move him & the Red Sox offered to take it with a prospect included for their troubles!
Not as sure about  
section125 : 1/26/2021 8:26 am : link
Gardy returning. The new guy they got (cannot even remember his name) sort of takes his place.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I was never an Ottavino  
BigBlueShock : 1/26/2021 8:39 am : link
In comment 15134518 section125 said:
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fan. He was fine the 1st year until September, then, splat. He sucked last year.

Loaisiga looked almost as good as Green very often last year and I think Green is their most dependable reliever, followed by Britton then Chapman.

Cessa is actually a decent long man. There are young arms available in the system.



Don’t forget that the Yanks signed old friend Adam Warren to a minor league deal this offseason. He had TJ surgery in September 2019 and is reportedly ready to go in Spring Training. Don’t know if he has anything left or can find a few MPH from the surgery, but he is one to watch.

holy shit. he has 9 yankee lives



rich and adamg, Warren is cooked. He was cooked before the time he returned to the Yanks from the Cubs(?). I expect nothing except a look see. Heller is the guy that could do something, he is younger with a better arm. I will not hold my breath on either.

I am not sure just what Cashman is doing with the pitching staff. He has recently not been good at assembling a staff. Actually he has never been too good at a successful SP staff. The bullpen was almost always good and bailed out the SPs. Now it seems both are a hodgepodge of parts. Until this team starts to develop drafted pitchers into successful pitchers he will be chasing dreams and other teams castoffs.

Still crazy to me he let Kahnle go and then chased other TJS patients....

Kahnle will not pitch in 2021. He wouldn’t have done much good...
RE: Not as sure about  
terz22 : 1/26/2021 8:41 am : link
In comment 15134557 section125 said:
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Gardy returning. The new guy they got (cannot even remember his name) sort of takes his place.


I agree rather see what Greg Allen can do in the 4th spot than Gardy again. But that's just me.
RE: RE: Not as sure about  
section125 : 1/26/2021 8:52 am : link
In comment 15134560 terz22 said:
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Gardy returning. The new guy they got (cannot even remember his name) sort of takes his place.



I agree rather see what Greg Allen can do in the 4th spot than Gardy again. But that's just me.


I am a Gardy fan, that is well known, but if they are cutting ties with Tanaka, it might be the writing on the wall. Tauchman's bat fell apart last year, but Tauchman gives you about what Gardy gave them on the field with a better arm at this point.

I'd be looking for pitching
Heyman just said on Twitter that the Yanks  
TheMick7 : 1/26/2021 9:17 am : link
are in the market for a RP w/the $$$ saved by moving Ottavino. Unless they can get a LH power bat like Joc Pederson at a discount rate,I have no problem w/them bringing back Gardy. Even at 37,he becomes the Yankees best defensive OF & I think they could sign him at 1 year/$1 million I'm not as optimistic about Tauchman as others on here are,as I don't believe he can do what Gardy can. He got exposed last year at the plate & dependent on what MLB does with roster #'s,he could even be the odd man out!
RE: Heyman just said on Twitter that the Yanks  
section125 : 1/26/2021 9:27 am : link
In comment 15134599 TheMick7 said:
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are in the market for a RP w/the $$$ saved by moving Ottavino. Unless they can get a LH power bat like Joc Pederson at a discount rate,I have no problem w/them bringing back Gardy. Even at 37,he becomes the Yankees best defensive OF & I think they could sign him at 1 year/$1 million I'm not as optimistic about Tauchman as others on here are,as I don't believe he can do what Gardy can. He got exposed last year at the plate & dependent on what MLB does with roster #'s,he could even be the odd man out!


Believe the roster will be 26, unless covid shuts the minors again.

You would think that the DH thing should be settled 1st so that teams can at least try to figure out their rosters and the NL can look for DHs......
RE: RE: Heyman just said on Twitter that the Yanks  
TheMick7 : 1/26/2021 9:32 am : link
In comment 15134607 section125 said:
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are in the market for a RP w/the $$$ saved by moving Ottavino. Unless they can get a LH power bat like Joc Pederson at a discount rate,I have no problem w/them bringing back Gardy. Even at 37,he becomes the Yankees best defensive OF & I think they could sign him at 1 year/$1 million I'm not as optimistic about Tauchman as others on here are,as I don't believe he can do what Gardy can. He got exposed last year at the plate & dependent on what MLB does with roster #'s,he could even be the odd man out!



Believe the roster will be 26, unless covid shuts the minors again.

You would think that the DH thing should be settled 1st so that teams can at least try to figure out their rosters and the NL can look for DHs......


Agree about the DH(If you're a Mets fan,having a DH is huge) & it seems both sides want it,but are too stubborn to compromise in other areas,so that was why MLBPA shot it down yesterday!
RE: Heyman just said on Twitter that the Yanks  
Judge_and_Jury : 1/26/2021 11:15 am : link
In comment 15134599 TheMick7 said:
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are in the market for a RP w/the $$$ saved by moving Ottavino. Unless they can get a LH power bat like Joc Pederson at a discount rate,I have no problem w/them bringing back Gardy. Even at 37,he becomes the Yankees best defensive OF & I think they could sign him at 1 year/$1 million I'm not as optimistic about Tauchman as others on here are,as I don't believe he can do what Gardy can. He got exposed last year at the plate & dependent on what MLB does with roster #'s,he could even be the odd man out!


Interesting would have thought they would go SP but we seem to love to stock up on RP.
Who is our most likely #2  
Judge_and_Jury : 1/26/2021 11:59 am : link
Right now with all the risk associated with everyone after Cole....its likely German...young , healthy and has already proven he can be a very good pitcher.
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