If we address WR in free agency, there is still a good chance that we draft a WR early (day 1 or day 2). If that happens, I think Sheppard gets cut in 2022 as they would have 2 new WR's to team with Slayton.
If we address WR in free agency, there is still a good chance that we draft a WR early (day 1 or day 2). If that happens, I think Sheppard gets cut in 2022 as they would have 2 new WR's to team with Slayton.
We could restructure Zeitler or as the previous poster mentioned extend Bradberry or Martinez who were excellent last year.
maybe bottom 5 and they have no cap room? What a mismanaged mess they are.
They would have had another $25 million or so if not for the COVID related cap hit, with the easy ability to do what’s in the article to create a lot more
The Zeitler decision looks to be one to keep an eye on. If the Giants are happy with his health then maybe he just becomes a restructuring vs flat out release. He is expensive though so if things get dicey with how they want to add to the Offense in free agency then he would be where you find the dollars.
Producer and Arnie are either stupid or pretending to act stupid. If you want to see a cap mess look at the Saints and Eagles. Even with Brees retiring they are 90 mil over.
because SO MANY teams are in cap trouble, it means ownership is in a place where they have the upper hand from a negotiation perspective.
There are all of these free agents with much less money to go around. If anything, it offers us the opportunity to sign a few guys and backload their contracts for when there is more money available.
Once we have a full season with fans in the seats.... the salary cap is going to jump up again.
he’s shown flashes of potential in his limited time out there, I’d like to see if this coaching staff could tap into that potential. And saving only $500K to cut a guy like that isn’t worth it IMO. Instead I’d cut Riley Dixon. He was awful this year, and it would save the Giants $3m in space.
he’s shown flashes of potential in his limited time out there, I’d like to see if this coaching staff could tap into that potential. And saving only $500K to cut a guy like that isn’t worth it IMO. Instead I’d cut Riley Dixon. He was awful this year, and it would save the Giants $3m in space.
he’s shown flashes of potential in his limited time out there, I’d like to see if this coaching staff could tap into that potential. And saving only $500K to cut a guy like that isn’t worth it IMO. Instead I’d cut Riley Dixon. He was awful this year, and it would save the Giants $3m in space.
coaching staff was down on him before he opted out. He's gone.
I’m surprised she only recommended extending Peppers and
We must draft a superstar at #11. We must hope that both Thomas and Peart become stud tackles cause that would truly elevate this team.
We have to hope that we can sign to UFA's to reasonable contracts and hope those two or so are Bradberry & Martinez re-incarnated. There is no way around it but we need STUDS.
We also need for Jones to have a full camp with the same offense as the #1 so we truly know what we have in him. My gut tells me he is the "guy" who can take you and win you a SB but only with solid supporting cast around him.
Cut well
Resign your own well
Two key UFA's for offensive playmaker and perhaps CB
Draft well
We must do every phase well. No more 2018 horror shows. No more 2019 average. We need 2020 above average!!!
What killed us, IMHO, in 2020 besides the obvious (new coaching staff, Covid, no true pre-season, tough opening schedule) was the injury to Barkley (only offensive weapon who scared anyone) and the Baker fiasco. See, Baker in my mind would have been the best #2 CB on this team and I base that only on his strong finish in 2019 after being lazy earlier in the year (apparently).
But we also were healthier than Dallas and Philly, IMHO, and we can't use injuries as an excuse.
If the Giants cut a player in their Top 51, with the purpose of freeing cap space for free agents and draft picks, won’t the immediate cap savings be partly offset by bumping the current #52, with a cap number around $780K, into the Top 51? A UFA signing would then bump that player back to #52, but that’s always the case: any news signing with a higher 2021 cap number than the #51 guy will bump #51 down one spot.
RE: Question about the off-season ‘Top 51’ formula:
If the Giants cut a player in their Top 51, with the purpose of freeing cap space for free agents and draft picks, won’t the immediate cap savings be partly offset by bumping the current #52, with a cap number around $780K, into the Top 51? A UFA signing would then bump that player back to #52, but that’s always the case: any news signing with a higher 2021 cap number than the #51 guy will bump #51 down one spot.
Yes, there is that offset. Most likely the bottom 5 to 10 players are at league minimum salary. So if you cut a $2.5 mill player, everyone under him moves up one spot and he would be replaced by likely a league minimum player at about $500k, resulting is an actual $2 mill savings vs the previous $2.5 mill
We must draft a superstar at #11. We must hope that both Thomas and Peart become stud tackles cause that would truly elevate this team.
We have to hope that we can sign to UFA's to reasonable contracts and hope those two or so are Bradberry & Martinez re-incarnated. There is no way around it but we need STUDS.
We also need for Jones to have a full camp with the same offense as the #1 so we truly know what we have in him. My gut tells me he is the "guy" who can take you and win you a SB but only with solid supporting cast around him.
Cut well
Resign your own well
Two key UFA's for offensive playmaker and perhaps CB
Draft well
We must do every phase well. No more 2018 horror shows. No more 2019 average. We need 2020 above average!!!
What killed us, IMHO, in 2020 besides the obvious (new coaching staff, Covid, no true pre-season, tough opening schedule) was the injury to Barkley (only offensive weapon who scared anyone) and the Baker fiasco. See, Baker in my mind would have been the best #2 CB on this team and I base that only on his strong finish in 2019 after being lazy earlier in the year (apparently).
But we also were healthier than Dallas and Philly, IMHO, and we can't use injuries as an excuse.
Baker really didn't have a strong finish. He only played well in games when he was benched as a starter (i.e. NOT the #2 CB). Once he got his starting job back in the last three games he went back to sucking.
It's been repeated so much that people just believe it at this point, but stats don't lie. Opposing QBs had ratings of 107.7, 107.5 and 133.3 against him. He gave up 2 TDs in three games.
contracts. Players are more likely to take short term incentive and bonus laden deals just to have options for when the cap opens up again, rather than to be locked into backloaded deals. Backloaded deals are deals that only favor the owner and are unfriendly to the player.
These are current cap space estimations. Plenty of teams out there with money to spend and ways to make more space.
Producer and Arnie are either stupid or pretending to act stupid. If you want to see a cap mess look at the Saints and Eagles. Even with Brees retiring they are 90 mil over.
We must draft a superstar at #11. We must hope that both Thomas and Peart become stud tackles cause that would truly elevate this team.
We have to hope that we can sign to UFA's to reasonable contracts and hope those two or so are Bradberry & Martinez re-incarnated. There is no way around it but we need STUDS.
We also need for Jones to have a full camp with the same offense as the #1 so we truly know what we have in him. My gut tells me he is the "guy" who can take you and win you a SB but only with solid supporting cast around him.
Cut well
Resign your own well
Two key UFA's for offensive playmaker and perhaps CB
Draft well
We must do every phase well. No more 2018 horror shows. No more 2019 average. We need 2020 above average!!!
What killed us, IMHO, in 2020 besides the obvious (new coaching staff, Covid, no true pre-season, tough opening schedule) was the injury to Barkley (only offensive weapon who scared anyone) and the Baker fiasco. See, Baker in my mind would have been the best #2 CB on this team and I base that only on his strong finish in 2019 after being lazy earlier in the year (apparently).
But we also were healthier than Dallas and Philly, IMHO, and we can't use injuries as an excuse.
Baker is a huge loss since having a solid #2 CB would have been instrumental for Graham to employ his preferred schemes and playcalls.
We could restructure Zeitler or as the previous poster mentioned extend Bradberry or Martinez who were excellent last year.
Total... fireable.. incompetence.
I don't know why anybody trusts or defends any of the decisions this management has made. They are lost.
They would have had another $25 million or so if not for the COVID related cap hit, with the easy ability to do what’s in the article to create a lot more
The Zeitler decision looks to be one to keep an eye on. If the Giants are happy with his health then maybe he just becomes a restructuring vs flat out release. He is expensive though so if things get dicey with how they want to add to the Offense in free agency then he would be where you find the dollars.
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maybe bottom 5 and they have no cap room? What a mismanaged mess they are.
Total... fireable.. incompetence.
I don't know why anybody trusts or defends any of the decisions this management has made. They are lost.
You sure are a one-trick pony 1/20.
It's like you have a pull string.
There are all of these free agents with much less money to go around. If anything, it offers us the opportunity to sign a few guys and backload their contracts for when there is more money available.
Once we have a full season with fans in the seats.... the salary cap is going to jump up again.
Yes it was.
This could leave us with enough money for a top WR, a decent #2 CB and maybe an under the radar pass rusher or OL.
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Great work by Patti.
Yes it was.
This could leave us with enough money for a top WR, a decent #2 CB and maybe an under the radar pass rusher or OL.
And resign big LEO.
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maybe bottom 5 and they have no cap room? What a mismanaged mess they are.
Total... fireable.. incompetence.
I don't know why anybody trusts or defends any of the decisions this management has made. They are lost.
You do realize that this post only highlights your ignorance about the cap, right Chief?
But you have no fucking problem calling something you don't even understand as fireable and incompetence.
That's the shit foisted on BBI daily.
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maybe bottom 5 and they have no cap room? What a mismanaged mess they are.
Total... fireable.. incompetence.
I don't know why anybody trusts or defends any of the decisions this management has made. They are lost.
Blind big blue loyalty.
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maybe bottom 5 and they have no cap room? What a mismanaged mess they are.
Total... fireable.. incompetence.
I don't know why anybody trusts or defends any of the decisions this management has made. They are lost.
You do realize that this post only highlights your ignorance about the cap, right Chief?
But you have no fucking problem calling something you don't even understand as fireable and incompetence.
That's the shit foisted on BBI daily.
I’m confused. What’s your point on contention here? Are you denying how wretched this roster is?
What flashes has he shown? He's been horrible.
coaching staff was down on him before he opted out. He's gone.
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maybe bottom 5 and they have no cap room? What a mismanaged mess they are.
Total... fireable.. incompetence.
I don't know why anybody trusts or defends any of the decisions this management has made. They are lost.
The schtick from both of you is tiring. I suggest you forget about the Giants and move on to a more appropriate team, like the Jets or Jaguars.
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In comment 15134221 arniefez said:
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maybe bottom 5 and they have no cap room? What a mismanaged mess they are.
Total... fireable.. incompetence.
I don't know why anybody trusts or defends any of the decisions this management has made. They are lost.
You do realize that this post only highlights your ignorance about the cap, right Chief?
But you have no fucking problem calling something you don't even understand as fireable and incompetence.
That's the shit foisted on BBI daily.
I’m confused. What’s your point on contention here? Are you denying how wretched this roster is?
You're confused?? Of course you are because you keep contending we are doing poor with the cap, just like the poster I was addressing
Maybe you should try to be less confused
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In comment 15134221 arniefez said:
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maybe bottom 5 and they have no cap room? What a mismanaged mess they are.
Total... fireable.. incompetence.
I don't know why anybody trusts or defends any of the decisions this management has made. They are lost.
You do realize that this post only highlights your ignorance about the cap, right Chief?
But you have no fucking problem calling something you don't even understand as fireable and incompetence.
That's the shit foisted on BBI daily.
I’m confused. What’s your point on contention here? Are you denying how wretched this roster is?
You're confused?? Of course you are because you keep contending we are doing poor with the cap, just like the poster I was addressing
Maybe you should try to be less confused
I was hoping with the new year and everything going on in the world you’d be less of a chode but apparently you’re just warming up. Be well.
We have to hope that we can sign to UFA's to reasonable contracts and hope those two or so are Bradberry & Martinez re-incarnated. There is no way around it but we need STUDS.
We also need for Jones to have a full camp with the same offense as the #1 so we truly know what we have in him. My gut tells me he is the "guy" who can take you and win you a SB but only with solid supporting cast around him.
Cut well
Resign your own well
Two key UFA's for offensive playmaker and perhaps CB
Draft well
We must do every phase well. No more 2018 horror shows. No more 2019 average. We need 2020 above average!!!
What killed us, IMHO, in 2020 besides the obvious (new coaching staff, Covid, no true pre-season, tough opening schedule) was the injury to Barkley (only offensive weapon who scared anyone) and the Baker fiasco. See, Baker in my mind would have been the best #2 CB on this team and I base that only on his strong finish in 2019 after being lazy earlier in the year (apparently).
But we also were healthier than Dallas and Philly, IMHO, and we can't use injuries as an excuse.
Yes, there is that offset. Most likely the bottom 5 to 10 players are at league minimum salary. So if you cut a $2.5 mill player, everyone under him moves up one spot and he would be replaced by likely a league minimum player at about $500k, resulting is an actual $2 mill savings vs the previous $2.5 mill
We have to hope that we can sign to UFA's to reasonable contracts and hope those two or so are Bradberry & Martinez re-incarnated. There is no way around it but we need STUDS.
We also need for Jones to have a full camp with the same offense as the #1 so we truly know what we have in him. My gut tells me he is the "guy" who can take you and win you a SB but only with solid supporting cast around him.
Cut well
Resign your own well
Two key UFA's for offensive playmaker and perhaps CB
Draft well
We must do every phase well. No more 2018 horror shows. No more 2019 average. We need 2020 above average!!!
What killed us, IMHO, in 2020 besides the obvious (new coaching staff, Covid, no true pre-season, tough opening schedule) was the injury to Barkley (only offensive weapon who scared anyone) and the Baker fiasco. See, Baker in my mind would have been the best #2 CB on this team and I base that only on his strong finish in 2019 after being lazy earlier in the year (apparently).
But we also were healthier than Dallas and Philly, IMHO, and we can't use injuries as an excuse.
Baker really didn't have a strong finish. He only played well in games when he was benched as a starter (i.e. NOT the #2 CB). Once he got his starting job back in the last three games he went back to sucking.
It's been repeated so much that people just believe it at this point, but stats don't lie. Opposing QBs had ratings of 107.7, 107.5 and 133.3 against him. He gave up 2 TDs in three games.
That middles one was Case Keenum and freakin' Dwayne Haskins BTW. He gave up 9 of 10 completions in that game. Think about it, Dwayne Haskins carved him up. Horrible. I am glad he's off the team.
Deandre Baker - Advanced Stats 2019 Gamelog - Pro-Football Reference - ( New Window )
These are current cap space estimations. Plenty of teams out there with money to spend and ways to make more space.
We have to hope that we can sign to UFA's to reasonable contracts and hope those two or so are Bradberry & Martinez re-incarnated. There is no way around it but we need STUDS.
We also need for Jones to have a full camp with the same offense as the #1 so we truly know what we have in him. My gut tells me he is the "guy" who can take you and win you a SB but only with solid supporting cast around him.
Cut well
Resign your own well
Two key UFA's for offensive playmaker and perhaps CB
Draft well
We must do every phase well. No more 2018 horror shows. No more 2019 average. We need 2020 above average!!!
What killed us, IMHO, in 2020 besides the obvious (new coaching staff, Covid, no true pre-season, tough opening schedule) was the injury to Barkley (only offensive weapon who scared anyone) and the Baker fiasco. See, Baker in my mind would have been the best #2 CB on this team and I base that only on his strong finish in 2019 after being lazy earlier in the year (apparently).
But we also were healthier than Dallas and Philly, IMHO, and we can't use injuries as an excuse.
Baker is a huge loss since having a solid #2 CB would have been instrumental for Graham to employ his preferred schemes and playcalls.