NFT: Mets favorite for Bauer

you read the actual article it's not as "sexy" as it sounds. He claims they made the offer "in recent weeks".

more sense - though still not sure I agree with it. It is a high upside move though and with the right contract they can mitigate the risk.

like Rosario will be at AAA or on the Indians bench to open 2021

"The Mets made the aggressive offer in recent weeks, and have since stayed in close contact with Bauer. Yet, while the offer still stands, one team official cautioned that the Mets still are evaluating all aspects of Bauer’s strong social media presence, particularly in the light of the GM Jared Porter’s firing last week for sexual harassment."

Also, keep in mind Nightengale is OFTEN wrong, to the point, it's a running joke to bet the opposite of what he says.

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Jackie Bradley Jr., has remained solid on the Mets’ radar as they look to upgrade CF.

as for his social media presence, I stay off the cesspool that is Twitter. Can someone enlighten me on what he did? From my understanding, he was trolled and spoke back against the college girl? Is that correct?

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as for his social media presence, I stay off the cesspool that is Twitter. Can someone enlighten me on what he did? From my understanding, he was trolled and spoke back against the college girl? Is that correct?

I don't care to get into a big Bauer social media discussion because it's NON-STOP on twitter but he harassed a college student online (I believe 17 tweets) and encouraged his followers to go after here. He's done this a few times, but less aggressively than this occurence. He's also tweeted out (I'm not making this political, I'm just stating facts) George Soros conspiracy theories which is considered a dog whistle for anti-semitism etc etc. aka it's not just one incident.

tells me "I'm not hearing what Bob is claiming.

calls Bob a liar. Nothing to see here. Luba is pushing this. She did the same with Puig to Yankees and Marlins in recent days, both times shut down.

confirming Heyman

say this... this off-season I've really learned a lot about the CBA because the luxury tax was never a consideration. Just this morning I learned player options are factored in to AAV if the player option is greater than 50% of the buyout.

In comment 15134648 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 15134645 KDavies said: Quote: as for his social media presence, I stay off the cesspool that is Twitter. Can someone enlighten me on what he did? From my understanding, he was trolled and spoke back against the college girl? Is that correct? I don't care to get into a big Bauer social media discussion because it's NON-STOP on twitter but he harassed a college student online (I believe 17 tweets) and encouraged his followers to go after here. He's done this a few times, but less aggressively than this occurence. He's also tweeted out (I'm not making this political, I'm just stating facts) George Soros conspiracy theories which is considered a dog whistle for anti-semitism etc etc. aka it's not just one incident.

lol. I guess that's why I stay off Twitter. Here I thought those against Soros and Koch brothers, etc. were against big money in politics.

None of this seems remotely disqualifying to me. The stuff with the college students is obviously immature on his part and would need to stop. But, at the same time, I can understand where he's coming from, with some of the outright filth that is directed at public figures by keyboard warriors on Twitter. He should probably just disable his comments.

I can assure you my comment wasn't aimed at you. It's just tedious the non-stop about this so I'm kind of just over it.

-Feinsand also says they have not made Bauer an offer. Nightengale has become a joke.

Mark Feinsand
@Feinsand
The Mets have not made an offer to Trevor Bauer that would eclipse Gerrit Cole's record AAV to this point, per source. That said, the Mets are believed to be in the mix for the reigning NL Cy Young winner.
10:28 AM · Jan 26, 2021·Twitter Web App

I said, Bob Nightengale has become a running joke. Not really sure what happened to him but he was once one of the top names among national baseball writers, now it seems like he either knowingly is fed BS by agents, or doesn't care.

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I can assure you my comment wasn't aimed at you. It's just tedious the non-stop about this so I'm kind of just over it. -Feinsand also says they have not made Bauer an offer. Nightengale has become a joke.

Oh, I know that. Was just looking for info on what he did. I appreciate the info. I usually tend to gloss over those kinds of stories as well. I consider that gossipy stuff. The Mets would have to address it if he signs with them, as he would be representing them, but it's not something that would preclude me from signing him. Look around the league and you have guys like Chapman, German, etc.

I just don't see this rising as to what Porter did. I get the Mets firing Porter. If he ever sexually harassed someone, the Mets would have been considered on notice of his proclivity, and would face quite a bit of civil liability.

In comment 15134669 DanMetroMan said:

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I said, Bob Nightengale has become a running joke. Not really sure what happened to him but he was once one of the top names among national baseball writers, now it seems like he either knowingly is fed BS by agents, or doesn't care.

I saw where he voted for LaTroy Hawkins for the HOF.

Hernandez 1 with an option with Cleveland so as noted, Rosario will either be a utility player or in AAA.

-With Hand off the board, I'd be all over Rosenthal. MONSTER 2020.

back in the day.

he just tweeted this

"Bob Nightengale
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The #Mets confirm they have made formal offer to free agent pitcher Trevor Bauer but that the current offer is less than #Yankees starter Gerrit Cole’s $36 million AAV."...

so one would assume the Mets have acknowledged this right? No other way to read it right? Well...

"The New York Mets have formally offered free-agent starter Trevor Bauer a contract that would make him baseball’s highest-paid player based on an annual average salary, a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports." uh...?

We as Mets fans are going to have to adjust to having money, and one of the side effects is agents/others leaking Mets interest whether it exists or not to drive up price.

unprofessional. How is that a Mets confirmation? It's flat out click bait.

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he just tweeted this "Bob Nightengale @BNightengale · 1m The #Mets confirm they have made formal offer to free agent pitcher Trevor Bauer but that the current offer is less than #Yankees starter Gerrit Cole’s $36 million AAV."... so one would assume the Mets have acknowledged this right? No other way to read it right? Well... "The New York Mets have formally offered free-agent starter Trevor Bauer a contract that would make him baseball’s highest-paid player based on an annual average salary, a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports." uh...?

I'm so confused. The story (which was just updated a half hour ago) also says the contract would give Bauer the highest AAV. Yet he tweets that the AAV is less than Cole?

In comment 15134687 KDavies said:

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In comment 15134680 DanMetroMan said: Quote: he just tweeted this "Bob Nightengale @BNightengale · 1m The #Mets confirm they have made formal offer to free agent pitcher Trevor Bauer but that the current offer is less than #Yankees starter Gerrit Cole’s $36 million AAV."... so one would assume the Mets have acknowledged this right? No other way to read it right? Well... "The New York Mets have formally offered free-agent starter Trevor Bauer a contract that would make him baseball’s highest-paid player based on an annual average salary, a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports." uh...? I'm so confused. The story (which was just updated a half hour ago) also says the contract would give Bauer the highest AAV. Yet he tweets that the AAV is less than Cole?

He walked by his first article and now says an offer WAS made but less than Cole's.. and that the Mets have confirmed it... and yet cites a "source close to negotiations".... that's really unprofessional and looks really poor.

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#Mets remain in pursuit of Bauer, according to a source, but have not gone to record AAV levels. It’s unclear what their parameters are for a deal at this point.

of signing Bauer since the beginning of the off-season, I don't care if Nightengale is right, wrong, a liar, or just maybe missed the Cole AAV when putting together his tweet.

If the Mets sign Bauer to a deal and the only contract in all of MLB with a higher AAV is Cole I don't care if Nightengale is wrong or right, I will focus on the Mets rotation being potentially the best in baseball.

deGrom
Bauer
Carrasco
Stroman
Syndergaard (eventually, until then Peterson/Matz/Lucchesi)

One of the best rotations in Mets history - better than '86 IMO, and better than 2015.

Plus, I prefer higher AAV - because to me it means short-term (hopefully) and less risk.

I would be quite surprised the Mets would open up offering Bauer a higher AAV than Cole, regardless of the length of the contract.

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of signing Bauer since the beginning of the off-season, I don't care if Nightengale is right, wrong, a liar, or just maybe missed the Cole AAV when putting together his tweet. If the Mets sign Bauer to a deal and the only contract in all of MLB with a higher AAV is Cole I don't care if Nightengale is wrong or right, I will focus on the Mets rotation being potentially the best in baseball. deGrom Bauer Carrasco Stroman Syndergaard (eventually, until then Peterson/Matz/Lucchesi) One of the best rotations in Mets history - better than '86 IMO, and better than 2015. Plus, I prefer higher AAV - because to me it means short-term (hopefully) and less risk.

PJ, he said the Mets CONFIRMED they have made an offer. You don't have an issue with such a false claim?

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People still believe Bob Nightengale as a reliable baseball source? Maybe Trevor Bauer will end up owning a piece of Steve Cohen’s company when all is said and done, but we should be smarter than this by now ;) #MLB

Would it be sweet?
Because he'd bring a new kind of pitcher to you... - ( New Window )

In comment 15134694 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 15134691 pjcas18 said: Quote: of signing Bauer since the beginning of the off-season, I don't care if Nightengale is right, wrong, a liar, or just maybe missed the Cole AAV when putting together his tweet. If the Mets sign Bauer to a deal and the only contract in all of MLB with a higher AAV is Cole I don't care if Nightengale is wrong or right, I will focus on the Mets rotation being potentially the best in baseball. deGrom Bauer Carrasco Stroman Syndergaard (eventually, until then Peterson/Matz/Lucchesi) One of the best rotations in Mets history - better than '86 IMO, and better than 2015. Plus, I prefer higher AAV - because to me it means short-term (hopefully) and less risk. PJ, he said the Mets CONFIRMED they have made an offer. You don't have an issue with such a false claim?

Everything I read says the Mets have in fact made an offer, but it is not higher AAV than Cole. So, if the Mets sign him to the 2nd highest AAV deal in MLB why get a hair across your ass because some reporter said it was the highest, but it's actually the 2nd highest.

Seems like an overreaction to me.

I can only think of the Padres as rivaling it with Darvish, Snell, Paddack, Musgrove, and Lamet, and maybe Gore coming up.

Nationals don't have the depth and Scherzer may be on the downslope. Braves are talented, but a bit young. Yankees have the potential to be up there with Cole, Taillon, Kluber, and the kids (assuming they lose Tanaka, Paxton), but they would have some question marks.

you're not understanding me. THe Mets confirming means he'd have a statement from the Mets, or the Mets told me, and not

"" a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports."

If I said "The Giants confirmed they are releasing Daniel Jones" and then I cite " a person with direct knowledge of the move told USA TODAY Sports" You'd accept that as the Giants confirming this?

says the Mets are vetting Bauer's social media.

you're missing my point.

I do not give one shit if Bob Nightengale is wrong or not.

I do care if the Mets sign Bauer.

And in the end if they do sign him and it is a short-term high AAV deal (even if not #1 highest AAV) then are you going to quibble about Nighengale being wrong or unprofessional or some thing else?)

I'm not.

this story about Matz being traded to help with Bauer is also complete BS. Matz could be released tomorrow and they would only been on the hook for about 800 K or what they are paying.. Jacob Barnes. Matz being traded would be them trying to recoup an asset, not cut payroll. Familia or Betances would be cutting payroll.

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you're missing my point. I do not give one shit if Bob Nightengale is wrong or not. I do care if the Mets sign Bauer. And in the end if they do sign him and it is a short-term high AAV deal (even if not #1 highest AAV) then are you going to quibble about Nighengale being wrong or unprofessional or some thing else?) I'm not.

I guess we are arguing 2 different points. To me "the Mets confirm" isn't ever ambigous. It's the Mets, a representative of the Mets acknowleding.

likely Realmuto heads back to the Phillies. A steal for them if it's truly 5 for 110.

In comment 15134719 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 15134713 pjcas18 said: Quote: you're missing my point. I do not give one shit if Bob Nightengale is wrong or not. I do care if the Mets sign Bauer. And in the end if they do sign him and it is a short-term high AAV deal (even if not #1 highest AAV) then are you going to quibble about Nighengale being wrong or unprofessional or some thing else?) I'm not. I guess we are arguing 2 different points. To me "the Mets confirm" isn't ever ambigous. It's the Mets, a representative of the Mets acknowleding.

I guess, but if he said "sources say" vs "mets confirm" - to me means basically the same thing if there isn't a name attached.

Either you think he flat out made this up or you think an off the record source with knowledge fed it to him (and he got the AAV piece wrong).

I don't care about the distinction, he's not signed yet, I hope he eventually is.

feeling is "the Mets confirm" is different than "a source tells me". If you disagree that's fine.

Barnes is owed 750,000, Matz would be owed 30 days termination pay so about 833,000. Trading Matz only opens up a rotation spot (I guess). It doesn't do anything for the lux tax.

regard to Barnes, his deal actually is guaranteed. So yeah, they very well may eat 750,000 but he likely has an inside track in making the team.

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feeling is "the Mets confirm" is different than "a source tells me". If you disagree that's fine.

I think unless the "Mets confirm" includes a named source on the Mets it is literally no different, they're all unnamed sources.

And in the same article that references Nightengale's claim, Heyman chimes in with:

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...It would be a short-term deal with a large average annual salary, but it would not eclipse Gerrit Cole's AAV of $36 million from the nine-year deal he signed with the Yankees last winter, per MLB Network's Jon Heyman....

then Nightengale again reference "Mets Sources" with this:

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...Nightengale says "one team official cautioned that the Mets still are evaluating all aspects of Bauer's strong social media presence." Bauer is very active on social media and several women have said they felt harassed both by Bauer himself and his fans within the last few years. At one point Bauer implied MLB censored his social media accounts....

I have no opinion of Nightengale, don't give a shit about him either way if he's honest Abe or constantly makes shit up.

but his cites Mets other team officials on the social media review, so why would he be lying about other stuff - or he's lying about all of it - but Heyman seems to be in on it too.

In the end I don't care, media is about clicks so there will always be some things exaggerated or embellished if the Mets sign Bauer - I'll be happy.

I have no personal vendetta against Nightengale. It's a well known "fact" he's often completely wrong.

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I have no personal vendetta against Nightengale. It's a well known "fact" he's often completely wrong.

I remember him being totally wrong on Beltran throughout the Mets' pursuit. He and Dayn Perry were the wrongest of the wrong back then.

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I have no personal vendetta against Nightengale. It's a well known "fact" he's often completely wrong.

Ok. If he's not wrong here does that change anything for you?

It doesn't for me, still don't care about him, and hope the Mets sign Bauer.

And Heyman at least seemed to validate most of the story.

If Heyman is also often completely wrong then maybe they're in cahoots.

is one article about Nightengale

1. https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/2818274/the-legend-of-bob-nightengale-being-wrong-about-everything-continues-this-time-with-mike-clevinger-and-the-san-diego-padres

2. " The San Francisco Giants-San Diego Padres games on Friday and Saturday were postponed when a Giants player tested positive for COVID-19. The player, who remains unidentified, told several members of the Giants’ traveling party that he believed he was possibly infected by a family member or friend in San Diego.

While Nightengale omitted Alex Dickerson’s name from his report, it was a moot point. His name had been reported the night before. Nightengale implied that he had broken protocol and put himself, his family, and colleagues at risk.

Since returning, Dickerson has been candid about the negative impact of the report. In an interview with SF Giants beat writers, he noted “that false reporting did happen in my situation,” referencing Nightengale’s report, “Those kinds of statements lead to a steamrolling effect that caused my wife, who is 39 weeks pregnant, to deal with a lot of stuff she did not deserve to deal with. It was not easy.”

The media landscape, especially in sports, is one filled with subtweeting and backhanded critiques of other reporters. Like most industries, people are more hesitant to criticize people in jobs like their own. Many Giants beat writers have omitted Nightengale’s name entirely from the story, instead solely attributing the report to USA Today."

3. linked
Link - ( New Window )

Bauer definitely speaks his mind when it comes to certain political issues, and if that continues to be the case that shit won't fly in the Mets locker room. not even trying to say whether he's right or wrong (i believe wrong), obviously he can do whatever he wants...but some of the stuff is just kinda not professional and unbecoming of someone who wants to be a pro athlete. He's like a lesser version of Aubrey Huff

the Mets in the future sign Bauer that makes Nightengale "right"? Why? We've heard for days they are interested.





Spoiler... there was no opt-out

it's not that he really says anything totally outlandish, but he toes the line always...and you pretty much can guess where his stance is on a lot of stuff, he can't help himself. which again...is fine. but not sure that's gonna go over well with teammates if he continues to do it. but then there's other times where he comes off great such as this podcast he did
Good Bauer interview - ( New Window )

Machado's agent

""I have known Bob Nightengale and Buster Olney for many years and have always had good professional relationships with both. But their recent reporting, like many other rumors in the past several months, have been inaccurate and reckless when it comes to Manny Machado. I don’t know if their sources are blatantly violating the Collective Bargaining Agreement by intentionally misleading them to try and affect negotiations through the public or are just flat out lying to them for other reasons. But the truth is that their reports on the details of the White Sox level of interest in Manny are completely wrong."

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it's not that he really says anything totally outlandish, but he toes the line always...and you pretty much can guess where his stance is on a lot of stuff, he can't help himself. which again...is fine. but not sure that's gonna go over well with teammates if he continues to do it. but then there's other times where he comes off great such as this podcast he did Good Bauer interview - ( New Window )

he and Stroman went back and forth a few months ago.

I do not care if Nightengale is right.

Not even a little bit.

You can continue your crusade against him, warranted or not, and I will not object.

My point was though, if Bauer signs does in fact sign a short-term high AAV deal then Nightengale is somewhat vindicated. Especially if it's in the $35M AAV range.

And if you disagree, I don't care, you can continue to ignore or hate the guy, whatever you do.

is your right. It's been reported for MONTHS Bauer might be more interested in beating Cole's AAV (they had a feud which they claim has been quashed) but if you want to credit Nightengale if he signs for short years at a high AAV that is your right. But for the record... from

1/11

"In an article yesterday, MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand made a statistical case that Trevor Bauer’s recent body of work justifies him matching or exceeding the record $36MM average annual value Gerrit Cole received in December 2019. While it may not be true that Cole and Bauer currently have beef, we can at least say the former UCLA teammates once had a rivalry. Beating Cole’s AAV record would be a major feat for Bauer and agent Rachel Luba. But as Homer Simpson once said, “Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forfty percent of all people know that.” So I set out to see how Feinsand’s claims hold up."

Than Bauer? This guy would be fodder for the media in NYC given the way he handles his social media issues. This is the same guy that spent hours arguing with a 16-year-old girl a few years back. He has to respond to anyone who critiques him in a nasty way.

Great pitcher but not made for NYC.

LaTroy Hawkins telling that creep who was arrested for making threats to players almost 10 years ago to come "see him". Not the smartest thing


LaTroy Hawkins
@LaTroyHawkins32
Dan Tanna was a clown and got what he deserved. Used the keyboard to hide.... Please tell him I’m retired now come see me..

"NBC Connecticut reports that a West Haven man, 42-year-old Aryn Leroux, has been arrested for threatening the New York Mets players, organization and staff members, as well as Citi Field itself. And yes Mets fans, it’s who you think it is. Leroux, charged with threatening in the second degree and breaching the peace, is the one and only Mets Twitter troll known as Dan Tanna (@danXtanna). Over the past season, “Tanna” had run-ins with Mets players publicly and not-so publicly, making specific threats towards players, staff and the ballpark. While I won’t say specifically what the threats were, know that they were serious enough to warrant police attention.

In comment 15134772 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 15134766 ryanmkeane said: Quote: it's not that he really says anything totally outlandish, but he toes the line always...and you pretty much can guess where his stance is on a lot of stuff, he can't help himself. which again...is fine. but not sure that's gonna go over well with teammates if he continues to do it. but then there's other times where he comes off great such as this podcast he did Good Bauer interview - ( New Window ) he and Stroman went back and forth a few months ago.

Yeah...again its fine to go back and forth on issues but if there's a legitimate dickhead/asshole-ness about it...that's not good.

"dickhoad choads" as bad or worse then bauer. He just has no issues letting the world know it for some reason. What makes bauer unique as an athlete is that he is open with his assholish, not that he is an asshole. lol.

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Than Bauer? This guy would be fodder for the media in NYC given the way he handles his social media issues. This is the same guy that spent hours arguing with a 16-year-old girl a few years back. He has to respond to anyone who critiques him in a nasty way. Great pitcher but not made for NYC.

So, Bauer would be "fodder for NY media" because he argues back on social media, but is ok with domestic abusers such as Chapman, German, etc.? And Bauer is a bigger jerk than those two, for example? Not sure that I agree.

enough I'm blocked on twitter from Stroman (who is known to be very sensitive and seeks out his own name on twitter)... FOR... what was my offense? A discussion in which I pointed out (using the numbers) that Bauer was, in fact, better than Stroman with someone who said Stroman was the superior P)

if the Mets are going through his social media as reported, I am sure they will discuss it with Bauer before they agree to a contract. If the Mets have any problem with it, I'm sure they will bring it to his attention what they have a problem with, and ask him to tone it down a bit.

makes absolutely no sense is why would you make an offer BEFORE going through his social media (if that's your concern)? Either it's BS or the offer was low enough where you know it's not going to be accepted outright.

In comment 15134789 KDavies said:

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In comment 15134780 montanagiant said: Quote: Than Bauer? This guy would be fodder for the media in NYC given the way he handles his social media issues. This is the same guy that spent hours arguing with a 16-year-old girl a few years back. He has to respond to anyone who critiques him in a nasty way. Great pitcher but not made for NYC. So, Bauer would be "fodder for NY media" because he argues back on social media, but is ok with domestic abusers such as Chapman, German, etc.? And Bauer is a bigger jerk than those two, for example? Not sure that I agree.

LMAO.....Relax Francis, nowhere did I say that anyone is ok with "domestic abusers" nor does the media. You're completely missing the point I am making so let me try again. Given Bauers's habit of being overly sensitive to any criticism, they are going to bait him relentlessly. They're going to tweak the hell out of him just to get a reaction especially if he has a rough patch during the season.

He constantly complains about the attention he receives for being outspoken while at the same time in being outspoken answering questions.

they will speak to Carrasco and Lindor about Bauer as well.

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makes absolutely no sense is why would you make an offer BEFORE going through his social media (if that's your concern)? Either it's BS or the offer was low enough where you know it's not going to be accepted outright.

I would assume they don't expect the Bauer camp to agree to the first offer, and they will have to write up a contract as well. I am sure the Mets are aware of the social media. Just speculation, but they may just be going through it so they can cite examples of what they would want him to tone down should he sign in NY.

i don't think a lot of professional athletes would have a problem with Bauer. But if you have a few that do on the same team...no bueno

is way "worse" than Bauer on social media.

and Stroman also way more political than Bauer.

If the Rangers can survive with Tony DeAngelo, the Mets can survive Bauer and Stroman (and neither Bauer or Stroman are like DeAngelo)

In comment 15134801 montanagiant said:

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In comment 15134789 KDavies said: Quote: In comment 15134780 montanagiant said: Quote: Than Bauer? This guy would be fodder for the media in NYC given the way he handles his social media issues. This is the same guy that spent hours arguing with a 16-year-old girl a few years back. He has to respond to anyone who critiques him in a nasty way. Great pitcher but not made for NYC. So, Bauer would be "fodder for NY media" because he argues back on social media, but is ok with domestic abusers such as Chapman, German, etc.? And Bauer is a bigger jerk than those two, for example? Not sure that I agree. LMAO.....Relax Francis, nowhere did I say that anyone is ok with "domestic abusers" nor does the media. You're completely missing the point I am making so let me try again. Given Bauers's habit of being overly sensitive to any criticism, they are going to bait him relentlessly. They're going to tweak the hell out of him just to get a reaction especially if he has a rough patch during the season. He constantly complains about the attention he receives for being outspoken while at the same time in being outspoken answering questions.

You called Bauer the biggest dickhead choad in baseball because of some stupid social media crap, and you are asking me to relax? Interesting.

you know like lots of people? i dont know im honestly asking. Ive never heard anyone talk about him as a teammate really, just about how he acts on twitter.

It's pretty east for a twitter asshole to be a real life asshole when you're a rich athlete.

After what just happened with Porter, they can't screw this up.

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you know like lots of people? i dont know im honestly asking. Ive never heard anyone talk about him as a teammate really, just about how he acts on twitter.

No (and I'm not looking to argue Bauer) but Arizona traded him in part because the coaching staff had enough of him.

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Why did the Diamondbacks trade him? The relationship between team and pitcher deteriorated quickly. The Diamondbacks' frustration is the Indians' gain. Bauer's fastball is a plus pitch that sits in the low-90s and touches 96, while his curveball is a wipeout offering that earns 70 grades on the 20-80 scale from some scouts. He rounds out his repertoire with a splitter, a slider and a changeup, all of which could be average or better pitches. Bauer does need better command, which got him into trouble once he reached Arizona, but his delivery is fine and he should be able to make improvements in that area. Bauer could start the year in Cleveland's rotation and might immediately be its best starting pitcher."

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enough I'm blocked on twitter from Stroman (who is known to be very sensitive and seeks out his own name on twitter)... FOR... what was my offense? A discussion in which I pointed out (using the numbers) that Bauer was, in fact, better than Stroman with someone who said Stroman was the superior P)

Haha, that's hilarious. He's got to be my least favorite Met. That's some seriously thin-skinned stuff.

what do you think our chances of landing Bauer?

""When you get a guy like that and he thinks he's got everything figured out, it's just tough to convince and try to get on the same page with you. ...

"Since day one in Spring Training I caught him and he killed me because he threw about 100 pitches the first day ... the next time he threw I saw him doing the same thing. He never wanted to listen."

and


"Nevertheless, Bauer's outburst seemed to serve as a fitting sendoff for his Indians tenure, given its often volatile nature. And yet, there he was at Progressive Field on Wednesday -- hours after his trade had been made official -- watching from the stands as his now-former team faced the Houston Astros."

I don't need retorts of people saying he's a good guy. My point is his reputation goes beyond simply twitter "troll".

"Nevertheless, Bauer's outburst seemed to serve as a fitting sendoff for his Indians tenure, given its often volatile nature. And yet, there he was at Progressive Field on Wednesday -- hours after his trade had been made official -- watching from the stands as his now-former team faced the Houston Astros."

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In comment 15134801 montanagiant said: Quote: In comment 15134789 KDavies said: Quote: In comment 15134780 montanagiant said: Quote: Than Bauer? This guy would be fodder for the media in NYC given the way he handles his social media issues. This is the same guy that spent hours arguing with a 16-year-old girl a few years back. He has to respond to anyone who critiques him in a nasty way. Great pitcher but not made for NYC. So, Bauer would be "fodder for NY media" because he argues back on social media, but is ok with domestic abusers such as Chapman, German, etc.? And Bauer is a bigger jerk than those two, for example? Not sure that I agree. LMAO.....Relax Francis, nowhere did I say that anyone is ok with "domestic abusers" nor does the media. You're completely missing the point I am making so let me try again. Given Bauers's habit of being overly sensitive to any criticism, they are going to bait him relentlessly. They're going to tweak the hell out of him just to get a reaction especially if he has a rough patch during the season. He constantly complains about the attention he receives for being outspoken while at the same time in being outspoken answering questions. You called Bauer the biggest dickhead choad in baseball because of some stupid social media crap, and you are asking me to relax? Interesting.

Holy shit, you really are in love with this guy. He is a dickhead choad and the majority of Baseball fans and media would agree.
Do you think he will quote tweet my take on here and sic his 400K Twitter followers on me as he did to that 16-year-old girl? Or how about the 28-year-old female fan w/ 128 followers who responded to his tweet slamming the Dodgers that he drove off of social media in 2017?

Tell me this post from him is not the kind of post from a dickhead choad?

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Trevor Bauer @BauerOutage · Feb 10, 2017 Replying to @GManfan64 @Twitter lol ummm. Lol yeah. You say that to one of the most scientific baseball players in MLB. Ok lol

Seriously who says shit like that? A dickhead choad does

Well aside from the tax, this might be another reason the mets are offering a short term deal. Seems like he is destined to wear out his welcome.

because I don't care about stupid-ass Twitter? That is a rather mundane Tweet you posted. Not the least bit offensive. Perhaps I am not easily offended.

guess is still the Angels. They have a need, an owner who has been willing to pay top dollar for FA's (Pujols, Hamilton, Rendon) and he's a local guy.

-As for Stroman I defended him to everyone knocking him for opting out so when he was THAT defensive (again I didn't tag him) that I stated Bauer was better (and gave numbers why) to block me? Pretty weak. Then again, Jarrett Seidler had a complete meltdown this weekend and blocked me for asking what in particular he felt was "lies" in Rosenthal's first Bauer piece. He told me to "go to hell" for asking that question. I too thought Rosenthal's follow-up was pretty terrible (naming the women Bauer harassed) but his response was bizarre.

In comment 15134836 KDavies said:

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because I don't care about stupid-ass Twitter? That is a rather mundane Tweet you posted. Not the least bit offensive. Perhaps I am not easily offended.

You may not, but a professional team in MLB that is trying to change course and rebuild its image should and will care and that's the whole point.

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you know like lots of people? i dont know im honestly asking. Ive never heard anyone talk about him as a teammate really, just about how he acts on twitter.

Possibly, but going after a 17-yr old girl and urging your Twitter followers to do the same is more than a yellow flag. He seems more than a little thin skinned, and that won't play well in NY. He'll be eaten alive.

In comment 15134841 DanMetroMan said:

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guess is still the Angels. They have a need, an owner who has been willing to pay top dollar for FA's (Pujols, Hamilton, Rendon) and he's a local guy. -As for Stroman I defended him to everyone knocking him for opting out so when he was THAT defensive (again I didn't tag him) that I stated Bauer was better (and gave numbers why) to block me? Pretty weak. Then again, Jarrett Seidler had a complete meltdown this weekend and blocked me for asking what in particular he felt was "lies" in Rosenthal's first Bauer piece. He told me to "go to hell" for asking that question. I too thought Rosenthal's follow-up was pretty terrible (naming the women Bauer harassed) but his response was bizarre.

Jarrett seems knowledgeable about baseball prospects, but he seems like an unstable dude. He flys off the handle and goes off on random non-baseball twitter rants far too often. I think he has some issues.

In comment 15134842 montanagiant said:

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In comment 15134836 KDavies said: Quote: because I don't care about stupid-ass Twitter? That is a rather mundane Tweet you posted. Not the least bit offensive. Perhaps I am not easily offended. You may not, but a professional team in MLB that is trying to change course and rebuild its image should and will care and that's the whole point.

I would prefer a team getting the best players, rather than players that I agree with politically, or always say things I like on Twitter. I am sure if the team that hires him has any issues with his Twitter, they will ask him to tone it down. That's how adults handle things.

"for someone looking to expand his 'brand' with his personality, he's lacking one major thing. A personality"

In comment 15134849 KDavies said:

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In comment 15134842 montanagiant said: Quote: In comment 15134836 KDavies said: Quote: because I don't care about stupid-ass Twitter? That is a rather mundane Tweet you posted. Not the least bit offensive. Perhaps I am not easily offended. You may not, but a professional team in MLB that is trying to change course and rebuild its image should and will care and that's the whole point. I would prefer a team getting the best players, rather than players that I agree with politically, or always say things I like on Twitter. I am sure if the team that hires him has any issues with his Twitter, they will ask him to tone it down. That's how adults handle things.

Now, do you honestly and truly think that Bauer would tone it down if told to by the team he's playing for? We both know that won't happen.

In comment 15134853 montanagiant said:

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In comment 15134849 KDavies said: Quote: In comment 15134842 montanagiant said: Quote: In comment 15134836 KDavies said: Quote: because I don't care about stupid-ass Twitter? That is a rather mundane Tweet you posted. Not the least bit offensive. Perhaps I am not easily offended. You may not, but a professional team in MLB that is trying to change course and rebuild its image should and will care and that's the whole point. I would prefer a team getting the best players, rather than players that I agree with politically, or always say things I like on Twitter. I am sure if the team that hires him has any issues with his Twitter, they will ask him to tone it down. That's how adults handle things. Now, do you honestly and truly think that Bauer would tone it down if told to by the team he's playing for? We both know that won't happen.

I don't know, and I don't know him. If he said he wouldn't or told them to accept him for who he is, the Mets or any other team could make a decision based on that.

for athletes.

don't commit crimes. period.

anything else I don't give a shit and no idea why anyone else really does either.

the people who want athletes to be role models either didn't have role models growing up or are not suitable to be a role model themselves.

Chemistry is a consideration and sometimes is underrated, but some of sports best and most accomplished champions were assholes.

In comment 15134855 pjcas18 said:

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for athletes. don't commit crimes. period. anything else I don't give a shit and no idea why anyone else really does either. the people who want athletes to be role models either didn't have role models growing up or are not suitable to be a role model themselves. Chemistry is a consideration and sometimes is underrated, but some of sports best and most accomplished champions were assholes.

Amen. Anyone who has been in the locker room, or the military, knows this. There are people from all walks of life, all kinds of belief systems, all kinds of personalities, etc. Deal with it.

be clear, the most recent posts by me were only to illustrate he's he wore out his welcome in both Arizona and Cleveland. That being said, if they win then his teammates will likely deal with him but it's clear he's not considered an awesome guy by all and just rough on social media.

Roger Clemens can be an asshole. Few people seem to be 100% sure Bauer is so good that he can be a clown show. Nobody has time for an asshole/possible crap teammate throwing to a 1.3 whip.

Ben Palmer
@benjpalmer
Jackie Bradley Jr.'s stats vs. expected stats last year:

.283 AVG vs. .230 xBA (9th biggest gap in MLB)

.347 wOBA vs. .299 xwOBA (8th biggest gap in MLB)

.450 SLG vs. .376 xSLG (17th biggest gap in MLB)

Not to mention career-lows in hard-hit rate (36.1%) and xwOBAcon (.334)

JBJ it's strictly for defense.

B/c a lineup with Conforto, Lindor, Alonso, McNeil, Nimmo, Smith, Davis can carry a weak bat in exchange for elite defense especially in CF.

I'd prefer he not be a total black hole and throughout his career he has had some nice offensive moments, but offense from him is gravy in my world.

And I would prefer to not sign JBJ based on other options, but my evaluation of him would be is he still an elite defensive CFer and do I expect that to continue.

Great talent, terrible teammate. NYC will eat him alive.

the projection systems all agree that 2020 looks like a major outlier for JBJ's bat.

In comment 15134855 pjcas18 said:

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for athletes. don't commit crimes. period. anything else I don't give a shit and no idea why anyone else really does either. the people who want athletes to be role models either didn't have role models growing up or are not suitable to be a role model themselves. Chemistry is a consideration and sometimes is underrated, but some of sports best and most accomplished champions were assholes.

No doubt, my only concern is the Mets giving him an enormous deal, and the press and/or Twitter trolls make his life miserable and it impacts his play. We’ve seen our share of thin skinned athletes melt under the any heat.

Brad Hand suggests he did not insist on closing when he agreed to sign with @Nationals

JBJ isn't a good hitter. He just a knack for getting on base or the clutch hit

In comment 15134855 pjcas18 said:

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for athletes. don't commit crimes. period. anything else I don't give a shit and no idea why anyone else really does either. the people who want athletes to be role models either didn't have role models growing up or are not suitable to be a role model themselves. Chemistry is a consideration and sometimes is underrated, but some of sports best and most accomplished champions were assholes.

LOL, the '86 Mets come to mind, PJ! I mean, Len Dykstra, come on down.

In comment 15134866 DanMetroMan said:

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Ben Palmer @benjpalmer Jackie Bradley Jr.'s stats vs. expected stats last year: .283 AVG vs. .230 xBA (9th biggest gap in MLB) .347 wOBA vs. .299 xwOBA (8th biggest gap in MLB) .450 SLG vs. .376 xSLG (17th biggest gap in MLB) Not to mention career-lows in hard-hit rate (36.1%) and xwOBAcon (.334)

what's that in comparison to Nimmo?

Was favorite to get Mets last august. Guy is a hack pure and simple.

In comment 15134903 Rory said:

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In comment 15134866 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Ben Palmer @benjpalmer Jackie Bradley Jr.'s stats vs. expected stats last year: .283 AVG vs. .230 xBA (9th biggest gap in MLB) .347 wOBA vs. .299 xwOBA (8th biggest gap in MLB) .450 SLG vs. .376 xSLG (17th biggest gap in MLB) Not to mention career-lows in hard-hit rate (36.1%) and xwOBAcon (.334) what's that in comparison to Nimmo?

His 2020 numbers vs. his "expected" aka he outperformed what the numbers in a vacuum say he should... which means a big regression is expected. The HH rate all but says he was very lucky.

of his money bailing out Melvin Capital and shorting GameStop.

deal includes some deferred money but doesn't help Washington in terms of the lux tax, only 400K less than his salary.

let's make sure we have an all-NY world series in 2021.

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deal includes some deferred money but doesn't help Washington in terms of the lux tax, only 400K less than his salary.

Hard to believe the Mets offered the same or close to the amount he got from the Nats if he accepted a 1-year off with that much differed.

Springer offer at best stayed the same or maybe went down. Hand/Kike they were in and ultimately passed on a reasonable deals. JBJ they are in but obviously not eager.

It seems like at the moment they just don't have urgency on any individual players the way they moved quickly to secure May and McCann. They saw those guys as filling specific needs and locked them down aggressively. They could have done the same with any of the above players but chose not to.

With the remaining 20-30m they seem unsure of the best way to spend it, though it certainly seems like they may think Bauer's price tag is reasonable enough that he's worth the majority of it.

Obviously adding an ace is a big deal if that's what they do, but taking a step back the every day players and BP in particular seem to be lacking quality depth. The rotation is maybe lacking depth but the quality need isn't as glaring with such a strong top 3 (plus Thor mid season). the defense is vastly improved but there's more they could do.

In comment 15134903 Rory said:

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In comment 15134866 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Ben Palmer @benjpalmer Jackie Bradley Jr.'s stats vs. expected stats last year: .283 AVG vs. .230 xBA (9th biggest gap in MLB) .347 wOBA vs. .299 xwOBA (8th biggest gap in MLB) .450 SLG vs. .376 xSLG (17th biggest gap in MLB) Not to mention career-lows in hard-hit rate (36.1%) and xwOBAcon (.334) what's that in comparison to Nimmo?

Considering the cost....I'm not sure JBJ compares well to Marusnick.

I want to see when Mets will open up negotiations with MC. That to me is just as if not more critical of a signing then Springer/Bauer.

Craig Mish
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The Philadelphia Phillies and JT Realmuto are in agreement on a 5 year $115.5 million dollar contract. Pending physical. Per source.

paid catcher (by AAV) ever

I have to believe the Mets would have been open to Realmuto at that rate/years had he been willing to sign earlier in the off-season. Strong move for the Phillies.

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I have to believe the Mets would have been open to Realmuto at that rate/years had he been willing to sign earlier in the off-season. Strong move for the Phillies.

Thats a really good deal for Philly.

Did the Mets ever show interest? Or did they fully expect him to sign for a much bigger contract? Just seems strange they were never in on him..

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In comment 15135009 DanMetroMan said: Quote: I have to believe the Mets would have been open to Realmuto at that rate/years had he been willing to sign earlier in the off-season. Strong move for the Phillies. Thats a really good deal for Philly. Did the Mets ever show interest? Or did they fully expect him to sign for a much bigger contract? Just seems strange they were never in on him..

They just didn't want to wait for him.

Can't really blame them... If they did wait for Realmuto and failed, they'd be in quite a bind.

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I have to believe the Mets would have been open to Realmuto at that rate/years had he been willing to sign earlier in the off-season. Strong move for the Phillies.

Agreed. I like how McCann embraces his role with the pitching staff but that looks like a move that we may regret not waiting on.

in on JBJ

think it's BS but the Braves rumored to be in on Jose Ramirez. That would be awful. He's a complete monster. Would completely off-set the Mets adding Lindor.

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think it's BS but the Braves rumored to be in on Jose Ramirez. That would be awful. He's a complete monster. Would completely off-set the Mets adding Lindor.

The Braves lineup is scary enough already I almost want that to happen to weaken their pitching/prospects. It would take a haul. He is on a steal of a 3 year deal.

I don't really want JBJ but on the flip side if someone said there was a guy out there with Lagares level defense except not injury prone and consistently a more productive hitter to the point of occasionally being a net positive hitter. Even though it's another lefty it makes some sense. They could do worse.

Chris Cotillo
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Sources: Red Sox remain in on Marwin Gonzalez even after signing Kiké Hernandez. Gonzalez's market could move quick. He fits Boston as LHH 1B complement to Dalbec. Obvious ties to Cora from 2017 in Houston.

full of bad suggestions so I don't mean to be a dick but to whomever suggested Lagares last night... Why? He's about to turn 32 and was -3 DRS in 2019, released in 2020. If he's on the 2021 Mets opening day, something went very wrong.

is going to be a really tough division, could come down to health.

I wish the players would vote for expanded playoffs, b/c I'd put deGrom up against anyone in a one game playoff and then the Mets (especially with Bauer) would have enough rotation not to have to worry about now what if they use JdG in a one-game WC playoff.

have rejected interest in Cain and now are in on Turner. Looks like that's a dead end.

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have rejected interest in Cain and now are in on Turner. Looks like that's a dead end.

Cain would have been nice. It is unfortunate the Mets were not Abel to get Cain.

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In comment 15135116 DanMetroMan said: Quote: have rejected interest in Cain and now are in on Turner. Looks like that's a dead end. Cain would have been nice. It is unfortunate the Mets were not Abel to get Cain.

I see what you did there lol

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In comment 15135120 KDavies said: Quote: In comment 15135116 DanMetroMan said: Quote: have rejected interest in Cain and now are in on Turner. Looks like that's a dead end. Cain would have been nice. It is unfortunate the Mets were not Abel to get Cain. I see what you did there lol

Yeah, that's A-dam Shame, Eve-n on a lost cost deal.

Bada-bump

I think @Mets fans are over the top against bringing back Ollie. He didn't allow a game 7 losing HR or something of that ilk. He would be a solid pickup for cheap. Held lefties to .185 BAA in 2020, .207 in 2019

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Great talent, terrible teammate. NYC will eat him alive.

Well that seals it, he'd be a great teammate and thrive in NY.

Screw Ollie Perez. I don’t think I can root for that guy again. Pseudo happy he has been able to reinvent himself but I want no part of that guy in a Mets uniform again. And I may have been captain of the Ollie train back in 06.

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Screw Ollie Perez. I don’t think I can root for that guy again. Pseudo happy he has been able to reinvent himself but I want no part of that guy in a Mets uniform again. And I may have been captain of the Ollie train back in 06.

I mean I can't really argue against the way someone FEELS but given his price and numbers vs. lefties I think he'd be a good option. That being said I'd take Rosenthal over every other available RP.

Ben Zauzmer
@BensOscarMath
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Some personal news: After six wonderful seasons with the Dodgers, culminating in a World Series win, I am very excited to be joining the @Mets
as Director of Baseball Analytics.

(As always, my Twitter account is solely devoted to the Oscars & other award shows, not to baseball.)

Mark Feinsand
@Feinsand
With J.T. Realmuto taken care of, the Phillies' focus now turns to shortstop -- specifically Andrelton Simmons -- sources tell me and @ToddZolecki
.

If he called her a slut or any other terms of gender abuse, then it’s a problem.

If he just got into a battle with her, then
He might be a jerk but it is not a huge problem.

A lot of athletes are jerks.

In comment 15135133 DanMetroMan said:

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I mean I can't really argue against the way someone FEELS but given his price and numbers vs. lefties I think he'd be a good option. That being said I'd take Rosenthal over every other available RP.

I'd have no issue with bringing Ollie back. He was OK v RHB last year, but pretty awful in 2019 (.890 OPS against). With the 3-batter rule, that may be a problem.

I think Mets fans have PTSD from him. It’s like getting back with a toxic ex. As good as he may look, we don’t want to have to re-live the trauma.

Mets could really use a Rosenthal or Soria. There is zero reliable length to the pen outside of the big 3. They let Shreve and Wilson go, added May, thus the pen is only marginally better on paper.

bringing Ollie back, I just hope there are options, so if it doesn't work out he's still not be trotted out there to pitch BP.

he's been good lately and I have no ill will toward him any more.

if he can help the 2020 Mets win, I'd have Luis Castillo on the team or Armando Benitez or Bobby Bonilla (round 3) or Vince Coleman or pick your Met villain.

also in on Eddie Rosario

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bringing Ollie back, I just hope there are options, so if it doesn't work out he's still not be trotted out there to pitch BP. he's been good lately and I have no ill will toward him any more. if he can help the 2020 Mets win, I'd have Luis Castillo on the team or Armando Benitez or Bobby Bonilla (round 3) or Vince Coleman or pick your Met villain.

should say *2021* Mets win

Add Semien. Loading up even more

Year 18 for Semien

Back to LAD

I said on Turner. Misunderstood a tweet

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bringing Ollie back, I just hope there are options, so if it doesn't work out he's still not be trotted out there to pitch BP. he's been good lately and I have no ill will toward him any more. if he can help the 2020 Mets win, I'd have Luis Castillo on the team or Armando Benitez or Bobby Bonilla (round 3) or Vince Coleman or pick your Met villain.

People don't like Armando??

I always loved Bobby Bo.. and was a HUGE Ollie fan.

Luis Castillo, Kaz Matsui, Robbie Alomar, and Robinson Cano are my least favorite all time.... And I am just NOW noticing the similarity as I type this... Weird.

LaStella to Sf

And Phillies battling for Didi. So much for the Reds being broke and selling off their stars

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LaStella to Sf

LaStella has become quite the player. 27 walks and 12 Ks last year. He’s from another era

Finalizing deal with Tigers

Bauer will choose Mets.



According to Mike Puma of The New York Post, Trevor Bauer, who is weighing his options for his next contract with spring training three weeks away, would choose to play for the Mets if the offers he receives are comparable.

That clearly wasn’t the case.

But ‘mislead’?

I haven't seen anyone with a magic 8 ball. I'll believe it when I see it. I do think the Mets interest is genuine, but I can totally see him ending up in LA or SF.

you've been mentioned as someone who has connections. Any insights on Bauer? Chances?

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you've been mentioned as someone who has connections. Any insights on Bauer? Chances?

Lol, I got nothing

Bob Nightengale
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Free-agent starter Trevor Bauer, who received a lucrative contract formal offer from the #Mets about 10 days ago, would certainly have plenty of marketing opportunities in NY with his social media brand. The Mets are the favorites to land the top starter on the market.

Stroman most likely is gone after this season, so as long as Thor and MC gets their extension.

Go get him Sandy

Will legit be the best rotation Ive ever witnessed in a sea of great Mets rotations in my lifetime if it happens.

...Harvey, deGrom, Syndergaard all pitched like legit aces; it's too bad Wheeler at top form couldn't be there.

Mark Healey
@MarkCHealey
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24m
I've been told that #Angels are still pushing hard for Bauer and owner Arte Moreno may veto his new GM and outbid #Mets no matter what the number might be...

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Mark Healey @MarkCHealey · 24m I've been told that #Angels are still pushing hard for Bauer and owner Arte Moreno may veto his new GM and outbid #Mets no matter what the number might be...

Nothing against Mark Healey... but he said moves were going to happen in 1-2 days and... then they didn't. He's a nice guy but doesn't have any special insight.

yesterday once word got out the NYM obviously confirmed that they made a shorter term offer about 10 days ago (which pretty much lines up to the day Springer decided to sign in Toronto). But the NYM have been pretty tight lipped all offseason and it stands to reason the offer didn't leak out right away from Bauer's side because it probably wasn't viewed as all that great. So why now? I'd guess it's an effort to accelerate his market.

Bauer's "preference" for the NYM feels a lot like Springer's "preference" to play close to home in CT. All things equal maybe it's true, but more likely it's a leak with the intention of getting a bigger offer just like Springer ended up getting from Toronto. The NYM showed discipline in the Springer market so we'll see what they do here.

I just hope they aren't missing out on the better depth options on a fool's errand hoping a super star falls into their lap (especially while the Phillies got lucky and had JTR fall into theirs, the Nats got Hand for just 1 year, and Atlanta sniffs around).

Rachel Luba has been desperate to heat up the Bauer market. Some of the writers actively have shot her down (I'm sure other agents openly do the same but the writers, outside of I guess Nightengale aren't biting). Bauer openly lashed out at Heyman (likely in part because of this). Note the quickness some of the writers noted teams xyz were NOT actually in on Puig. Luba is trying to entice the Dodgers/Angels into getting into a bidding war.

But apparently Luba linked Bauer and Puig a bunch of times on Kobe’s anniversary, and that turned off/pissed off some people. I assume more on Puig, but don’t know what that was all about. Apparently she’s rubbed many the wrong way, not sure if legit or the female bias?

Is there a baseball writer you don't have an issue with?

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Is there a baseball writer you don't have an issue with?

I don't have an issue with MOST writers. Very confused with your question. I don't care for Nightengale, what in my post above is critical of the writers?

You immediately look to shoot it down. Then will go to great lengths to try and discredit them. Just an observation.

legit confused now. Where did I critique any of the writers on here? I critiqued Bauer's agent. Care to explain? Bob Nightengale for sure. Otherwise, if anything I praise almost all of these guys. Andy Martino isn't my favorite but I also don't think he's much of a "writer" at this point.

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You immediately look to shoot it down. Then will go to great lengths to try and discredit them. Just an observation.

Please give me an example outside of notoriously wrong Bob Nightengale (where I also linked "proof" his known for always being wrong).

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You immediately look to shoot it down. Then will go to great lengths to try and discredit them. Just an observation.

You'd prefer I not note that since Nightengale's story came out it's been noted.

1. The discussions were almost 2 weeks ago
2. Did not include anything involving the highest AAV ever (he himself later retracted that).
3. That his agent has been trying to push information that has been refuted?

"The Mets’ interest in last year’s National League Cy Young award winner is substantial — Bauer received an offer from the team “weeks ago,” according to an industry source — but will it be enough to secure the right-hander, who sits atop the free-agent pitching market?"

I am legitimately nervous that his numbers are the result of an increased spin rate that is the result of a banned substance (cough Cole cough) and that once he has a long term contract he will revert.

I am also fairly nervous that his signing prohibits us from signing Thor who I still think will turn it around. That said for short term it would really solidify the team and between the fact that I have a family and the Wilpons being gone I am trying not to consistently freak out over expiring contracts.

think Bauer is a trash human being who would 100% help the Mets. I do not believe they sign Bauer. I think he's going to one of the LA teams. If he's even "just" 2018 Bauer he'd be a monster addition. If he's "only" 3 WAR Bauer he's still worth worthly 24 per season.

do think Bauer is going to cost them, current players. Conforto is going to get a monster contract, Thor if healthy will too, and that doesn't even count Stroman who would be the #2 FA SP this year.

Sensitive much. Just providing an observation from the Mets threads I have seen this past off season.

Didn't mean any offense.

He would never say a bad word. Dan was obsessed with that guy. Huge man crush.

not at all offended, I'm just honestly confused. For the most part I like almost all of the national guys. Nightengale is just wrong so often that he's not really even worth worrying about (in most cases). I don't care for Andy Martino, he's very smug and pushes buttons for no real reason. I like almost all of the known writers.

-Ty Kelly is not a writer for Metsfix apparently

Is he is simply a six inning pitcher his entire career.

No matter who you want to try to compare him too (Scherzer/Cole), that is the one thing he does not stack up to in regards to any of the games aces. Even as he got better as a pitcher.

Could also explain why he is proactively trying to convince teams he wants to pitch every 4th day ;)

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That said for short term it would really solidify the team and between the fact that I have a family and the Wilpons being gone I am trying not to consistently freak out over expiring contracts.

Sounds like a sound approach haha. I'd like to see the team compete while Jake is Jake. And the beauty of baseball is that competing year in and year out for a top payroll team is less about managing the short/mid term financial picture, and more about developing a massive and successful scouting/analytics/development operation. Signing Bauer does not impede that more important longterm process.

In comment 15135984 Shecky said:

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Is he is simply a six inning pitcher his entire career. No matter who you want to try to compare him too (Scherzer/Cole), that is the one thing he does not stack up to in regards to any of the games aces. Even as he got better as a pitcher. Could also explain why he is proactively trying to convince teams he wants to pitch every 4th day ;)

In fairness, over the past 2 seasons (45 starts) he's averaged 6.35 innings per start. Over the same 2 seasons he's 3rd in innings so I don't think it's a legitimate gripe. Going back to 2018 he's 6th in innings.... 1 more than... Max Scherzer.