NFT: Mets favorite for Bauer

you read the actual article it's not as "sexy" as it sounds. He claims they made the offer "in recent weeks".

more sense - though still not sure I agree with it. It is a high upside move though and with the right contract they can mitigate the risk.

like Rosario will be at AAA or on the Indians bench to open 2021

"The Mets made the aggressive offer in recent weeks, and have since stayed in close contact with Bauer. Yet, while the offer still stands, one team official cautioned that the Mets still are evaluating all aspects of Bauer’s strong social media presence, particularly in the light of the GM Jared Porter’s firing last week for sexual harassment."

Also, keep in mind Nightengale is OFTEN wrong, to the point, it's a running joke to bet the opposite of what he says.

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Jackie Bradley Jr., has remained solid on the Mets’ radar as they look to upgrade CF.

as for his social media presence, I stay off the cesspool that is Twitter. Can someone enlighten me on what he did? From my understanding, he was trolled and spoke back against the college girl? Is that correct?

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as for his social media presence, I stay off the cesspool that is Twitter. Can someone enlighten me on what he did? From my understanding, he was trolled and spoke back against the college girl? Is that correct?

I don't care to get into a big Bauer social media discussion because it's NON-STOP on twitter but he harassed a college student online (I believe 17 tweets) and encouraged his followers to go after here. He's done this a few times, but less aggressively than this occurence. He's also tweeted out (I'm not making this political, I'm just stating facts) George Soros conspiracy theories which is considered a dog whistle for anti-semitism etc etc. aka it's not just one incident.

tells me "I'm not hearing what Bob is claiming.

calls Bob a liar. Nothing to see here. Luba is pushing this. She did the same with Puig to Yankees and Marlins in recent days, both times shut down.

confirming Heyman

say this... this off-season I've really learned a lot about the CBA because the luxury tax was never a consideration. Just this morning I learned player options are factored in to AAV if the player option is greater than 50% of the buyout.

In comment 15134648 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 15134645 KDavies said: Quote: as for his social media presence, I stay off the cesspool that is Twitter. Can someone enlighten me on what he did? From my understanding, he was trolled and spoke back against the college girl? Is that correct? I don't care to get into a big Bauer social media discussion because it's NON-STOP on twitter but he harassed a college student online (I believe 17 tweets) and encouraged his followers to go after here. He's done this a few times, but less aggressively than this occurence. He's also tweeted out (I'm not making this political, I'm just stating facts) George Soros conspiracy theories which is considered a dog whistle for anti-semitism etc etc. aka it's not just one incident.

lol. I guess that's why I stay off Twitter. Here I thought those against Soros and Koch brothers, etc. were against big money in politics.

None of this seems remotely disqualifying to me. The stuff with the college students is obviously immature on his part and would need to stop. But, at the same time, I can understand where he's coming from, with some of the outright filth that is directed at public figures by keyboard warriors on Twitter. He should probably just disable his comments.

I can assure you my comment wasn't aimed at you. It's just tedious the non-stop about this so I'm kind of just over it.

-Feinsand also says they have not made Bauer an offer. Nightengale has become a joke.

Mark Feinsand
@Feinsand
The Mets have not made an offer to Trevor Bauer that would eclipse Gerrit Cole's record AAV to this point, per source. That said, the Mets are believed to be in the mix for the reigning NL Cy Young winner.
10:28 AM · Jan 26, 2021·Twitter Web App

I said, Bob Nightengale has become a running joke. Not really sure what happened to him but he was once one of the top names among national baseball writers, now it seems like he either knowingly is fed BS by agents, or doesn't care.

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I can assure you my comment wasn't aimed at you. It's just tedious the non-stop about this so I'm kind of just over it. -Feinsand also says they have not made Bauer an offer. Nightengale has become a joke.

Oh, I know that. Was just looking for info on what he did. I appreciate the info. I usually tend to gloss over those kinds of stories as well. I consider that gossipy stuff. The Mets would have to address it if he signs with them, as he would be representing them, but it's not something that would preclude me from signing him. Look around the league and you have guys like Chapman, German, etc.

I just don't see this rising as to what Porter did. I get the Mets firing Porter. If he ever sexually harassed someone, the Mets would have been considered on notice of his proclivity, and would face quite a bit of civil liability.

In comment 15134669 DanMetroMan said:

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I said, Bob Nightengale has become a running joke. Not really sure what happened to him but he was once one of the top names among national baseball writers, now it seems like he either knowingly is fed BS by agents, or doesn't care.

I saw where he voted for LaTroy Hawkins for the HOF.

Hernandez 1 with an option with Cleveland so as noted, Rosario will either be a utility player or in AAA.

-With Hand off the board, I'd be all over Rosenthal. MONSTER 2020.

back in the day.

he just tweeted this

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The #Mets confirm they have made formal offer to free agent pitcher Trevor Bauer but that the current offer is less than #Yankees starter Gerrit Cole’s $36 million AAV."...

so one would assume the Mets have acknowledged this right? No other way to read it right? Well...

"The New York Mets have formally offered free-agent starter Trevor Bauer a contract that would make him baseball’s highest-paid player based on an annual average salary, a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports." uh...?

We as Mets fans are going to have to adjust to having money, and one of the side effects is agents/others leaking Mets interest whether it exists or not to drive up price.

unprofessional. How is that a Mets confirmation? It's flat out click bait.

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he just tweeted this "Bob Nightengale @BNightengale · 1m The #Mets confirm they have made formal offer to free agent pitcher Trevor Bauer but that the current offer is less than #Yankees starter Gerrit Cole’s $36 million AAV."... so one would assume the Mets have acknowledged this right? No other way to read it right? Well... "The New York Mets have formally offered free-agent starter Trevor Bauer a contract that would make him baseball’s highest-paid player based on an annual average salary, a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports." uh...?

I'm so confused. The story (which was just updated a half hour ago) also says the contract would give Bauer the highest AAV. Yet he tweets that the AAV is less than Cole?

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In comment 15134680 DanMetroMan said: Quote: he just tweeted this "Bob Nightengale @BNightengale · 1m The #Mets confirm they have made formal offer to free agent pitcher Trevor Bauer but that the current offer is less than #Yankees starter Gerrit Cole’s $36 million AAV."... so one would assume the Mets have acknowledged this right? No other way to read it right? Well... "The New York Mets have formally offered free-agent starter Trevor Bauer a contract that would make him baseball’s highest-paid player based on an annual average salary, a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports." uh...? I'm so confused. The story (which was just updated a half hour ago) also says the contract would give Bauer the highest AAV. Yet he tweets that the AAV is less than Cole?

He walked by his first article and now says an offer WAS made but less than Cole's.. and that the Mets have confirmed it... and yet cites a "source close to negotiations".... that's really unprofessional and looks really poor.

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#Mets remain in pursuit of Bauer, according to a source, but have not gone to record AAV levels. It’s unclear what their parameters are for a deal at this point.

of signing Bauer since the beginning of the off-season, I don't care if Nightengale is right, wrong, a liar, or just maybe missed the Cole AAV when putting together his tweet.

If the Mets sign Bauer to a deal and the only contract in all of MLB with a higher AAV is Cole I don't care if Nightengale is wrong or right, I will focus on the Mets rotation being potentially the best in baseball.

deGrom
Bauer
Carrasco
Stroman
Syndergaard (eventually, until then Peterson/Matz/Lucchesi)

One of the best rotations in Mets history - better than '86 IMO, and better than 2015.

Plus, I prefer higher AAV - because to me it means short-term (hopefully) and less risk.

I would be quite surprised the Mets would open up offering Bauer a higher AAV than Cole, regardless of the length of the contract.

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of signing Bauer since the beginning of the off-season, I don't care if Nightengale is right, wrong, a liar, or just maybe missed the Cole AAV when putting together his tweet. If the Mets sign Bauer to a deal and the only contract in all of MLB with a higher AAV is Cole I don't care if Nightengale is wrong or right, I will focus on the Mets rotation being potentially the best in baseball. deGrom Bauer Carrasco Stroman Syndergaard (eventually, until then Peterson/Matz/Lucchesi) One of the best rotations in Mets history - better than '86 IMO, and better than 2015. Plus, I prefer higher AAV - because to me it means short-term (hopefully) and less risk.

PJ, he said the Mets CONFIRMED they have made an offer. You don't have an issue with such a false claim?

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People still believe Bob Nightengale as a reliable baseball source? Maybe Trevor Bauer will end up owning a piece of Steve Cohen’s company when all is said and done, but we should be smarter than this by now ;) #MLB

Would it be sweet?
Because he'd bring a new kind of pitcher to you... - ( New Window )

In comment 15134694 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 15134691 pjcas18 said: Quote: of signing Bauer since the beginning of the off-season, I don't care if Nightengale is right, wrong, a liar, or just maybe missed the Cole AAV when putting together his tweet. If the Mets sign Bauer to a deal and the only contract in all of MLB with a higher AAV is Cole I don't care if Nightengale is wrong or right, I will focus on the Mets rotation being potentially the best in baseball. deGrom Bauer Carrasco Stroman Syndergaard (eventually, until then Peterson/Matz/Lucchesi) One of the best rotations in Mets history - better than '86 IMO, and better than 2015. Plus, I prefer higher AAV - because to me it means short-term (hopefully) and less risk. PJ, he said the Mets CONFIRMED they have made an offer. You don't have an issue with such a false claim?

Everything I read says the Mets have in fact made an offer, but it is not higher AAV than Cole. So, if the Mets sign him to the 2nd highest AAV deal in MLB why get a hair across your ass because some reporter said it was the highest, but it's actually the 2nd highest.

Seems like an overreaction to me.

I can only think of the Padres as rivaling it with Darvish, Snell, Paddack, Musgrove, and Lamet, and maybe Gore coming up.

Nationals don't have the depth and Scherzer may be on the downslope. Braves are talented, but a bit young. Yankees have the potential to be up there with Cole, Taillon, Kluber, and the kids (assuming they lose Tanaka, Paxton), but they would have some question marks.

you're not understanding me. THe Mets confirming means he'd have a statement from the Mets, or the Mets told me, and not

"" a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports."

If I said "The Giants confirmed they are releasing Daniel Jones" and then I cite " a person with direct knowledge of the move told USA TODAY Sports" You'd accept that as the Giants confirming this?

says the Mets are vetting Bauer's social media.

you're missing my point.

I do not give one shit if Bob Nightengale is wrong or not.

I do care if the Mets sign Bauer.

And in the end if they do sign him and it is a short-term high AAV deal (even if not #1 highest AAV) then are you going to quibble about Nighengale being wrong or unprofessional or some thing else?)

I'm not.

this story about Matz being traded to help with Bauer is also complete BS. Matz could be released tomorrow and they would only been on the hook for about 800 K or what they are paying.. Jacob Barnes. Matz being traded would be them trying to recoup an asset, not cut payroll. Familia or Betances would be cutting payroll.

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you're missing my point. I do not give one shit if Bob Nightengale is wrong or not. I do care if the Mets sign Bauer. And in the end if they do sign him and it is a short-term high AAV deal (even if not #1 highest AAV) then are you going to quibble about Nighengale being wrong or unprofessional or some thing else?) I'm not.

I guess we are arguing 2 different points. To me "the Mets confirm" isn't ever ambigous. It's the Mets, a representative of the Mets acknowleding.

likely Realmuto heads back to the Phillies. A steal for them if it's truly 5 for 110.

In comment 15134719 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 15134713 pjcas18 said: Quote: you're missing my point. I do not give one shit if Bob Nightengale is wrong or not. I do care if the Mets sign Bauer. And in the end if they do sign him and it is a short-term high AAV deal (even if not #1 highest AAV) then are you going to quibble about Nighengale being wrong or unprofessional or some thing else?) I'm not. I guess we are arguing 2 different points. To me "the Mets confirm" isn't ever ambigous. It's the Mets, a representative of the Mets acknowleding.

I guess, but if he said "sources say" vs "mets confirm" - to me means basically the same thing if there isn't a name attached.

Either you think he flat out made this up or you think an off the record source with knowledge fed it to him (and he got the AAV piece wrong).

I don't care about the distinction, he's not signed yet, I hope he eventually is.

feeling is "the Mets confirm" is different than "a source tells me". If you disagree that's fine.

Barnes is owed 750,000, Matz would be owed 30 days termination pay so about 833,000. Trading Matz only opens up a rotation spot (I guess). It doesn't do anything for the lux tax.

regard to Barnes, his deal actually is guaranteed. So yeah, they very well may eat 750,000 but he likely has an inside track in making the team.

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feeling is "the Mets confirm" is different than "a source tells me". If you disagree that's fine.

I think unless the "Mets confirm" includes a named source on the Mets it is literally no different, they're all unnamed sources.

And in the same article that references Nightengale's claim, Heyman chimes in with:

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...It would be a short-term deal with a large average annual salary, but it would not eclipse Gerrit Cole's AAV of $36 million from the nine-year deal he signed with the Yankees last winter, per MLB Network's Jon Heyman....

then Nightengale again reference "Mets Sources" with this:

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...Nightengale says "one team official cautioned that the Mets still are evaluating all aspects of Bauer's strong social media presence." Bauer is very active on social media and several women have said they felt harassed both by Bauer himself and his fans within the last few years. At one point Bauer implied MLB censored his social media accounts....

I have no opinion of Nightengale, don't give a shit about him either way if he's honest Abe or constantly makes shit up.

but his cites Mets other team officials on the social media review, so why would he be lying about other stuff - or he's lying about all of it - but Heyman seems to be in on it too.

In the end I don't care, media is about clicks so there will always be some things exaggerated or embellished if the Mets sign Bauer - I'll be happy.

I have no personal vendetta against Nightengale. It's a well known "fact" he's often completely wrong.

In comment 15134754 DanMetroMan said:

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I have no personal vendetta against Nightengale. It's a well known "fact" he's often completely wrong.

I remember him being totally wrong on Beltran throughout the Mets' pursuit. He and Dayn Perry were the wrongest of the wrong back then.

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I have no personal vendetta against Nightengale. It's a well known "fact" he's often completely wrong.

Ok. If he's not wrong here does that change anything for you?

It doesn't for me, still don't care about him, and hope the Mets sign Bauer.

And Heyman at least seemed to validate most of the story.

If Heyman is also often completely wrong then maybe they're in cahoots.

is one article about Nightengale

1. https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/2818274/the-legend-of-bob-nightengale-being-wrong-about-everything-continues-this-time-with-mike-clevinger-and-the-san-diego-padres

2. " The San Francisco Giants-San Diego Padres games on Friday and Saturday were postponed when a Giants player tested positive for COVID-19. The player, who remains unidentified, told several members of the Giants’ traveling party that he believed he was possibly infected by a family member or friend in San Diego.

While Nightengale omitted Alex Dickerson’s name from his report, it was a moot point. His name had been reported the night before. Nightengale implied that he had broken protocol and put himself, his family, and colleagues at risk.

Since returning, Dickerson has been candid about the negative impact of the report. In an interview with SF Giants beat writers, he noted “that false reporting did happen in my situation,” referencing Nightengale’s report, “Those kinds of statements lead to a steamrolling effect that caused my wife, who is 39 weeks pregnant, to deal with a lot of stuff she did not deserve to deal with. It was not easy.”

The media landscape, especially in sports, is one filled with subtweeting and backhanded critiques of other reporters. Like most industries, people are more hesitant to criticize people in jobs like their own. Many Giants beat writers have omitted Nightengale’s name entirely from the story, instead solely attributing the report to USA Today."

3. linked
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Bauer definitely speaks his mind when it comes to certain political issues, and if that continues to be the case that shit won't fly in the Mets locker room. not even trying to say whether he's right or wrong (i believe wrong), obviously he can do whatever he wants...but some of the stuff is just kinda not professional and unbecoming of someone who wants to be a pro athlete. He's like a lesser version of Aubrey Huff

the Mets in the future sign Bauer that makes Nightengale "right"? Why? We've heard for days they are interested.





Spoiler... there was no opt-out

it's not that he really says anything totally outlandish, but he toes the line always...and you pretty much can guess where his stance is on a lot of stuff, he can't help himself. which again...is fine. but not sure that's gonna go over well with teammates if he continues to do it. but then there's other times where he comes off great such as this podcast he did
Good Bauer interview - ( New Window )