Made highest AAV offer
Joe DeMayo
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The #Mets have reportedly made Trevor Bauer an offer that would give him the highest AAV of any player in baseball. In this piece there’s no word on length of deal, other than it is “shorter term”
Mike Trout makes just over $37M per. twitter.com/bnightengale/s…
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Bob Nightengale
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NY #Mets emerge as favorites for free agent pitcher Trevor Bauer with record-setting average annual contract offer. https://usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/mets/2021/01/26/trevor-bauer-mets-offer-contract/4258036001/
""I have known Bob Nightengale and Buster Olney for many years and have always had good professional relationships with both. But their recent reporting, like many other rumors in the past several months, have been inaccurate and reckless when it comes to Manny Machado. I don’t know if their sources are blatantly violating the Collective Bargaining Agreement by intentionally misleading them to try and affect negotiations through the public or are just flat out lying to them for other reasons. But the truth is that their reports on the details of the White Sox level of interest in Manny are completely wrong."
he and Stroman went back and forth a few months ago.
Not even a little bit.
You can continue your crusade against him, warranted or not, and I will not object.
My point was though, if Bauer signs does in fact sign a short-term high AAV deal then Nightengale is somewhat vindicated. Especially if it's in the $35M AAV range.
And if you disagree, I don't care, you can continue to ignore or hate the guy, whatever you do.
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"In an article yesterday, MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand made a statistical case that Trevor Bauer’s recent body of work justifies him matching or exceeding the record $36MM average annual value Gerrit Cole received in December 2019. While it may not be true that Cole and Bauer currently have beef, we can at least say the former UCLA teammates once had a rivalry. Beating Cole’s AAV record would be a major feat for Bauer and agent Rachel Luba. But as Homer Simpson once said, “Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forfty percent of all people know that.” So I set out to see how Feinsand’s claims hold up."
Great pitcher but not made for NYC.
LaTroy Hawkins
@LaTroyHawkins32
Dan Tanna was a clown and got what he deserved. Used the keyboard to hide.... Please tell him I’m retired now come see me..
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it's not that he really says anything totally outlandish, but he toes the line always...and you pretty much can guess where his stance is on a lot of stuff, he can't help himself. which again...is fine. but not sure that's gonna go over well with teammates if he continues to do it. but then there's other times where he comes off great such as this podcast he did Good Bauer interview - ( New Window )
he and Stroman went back and forth a few months ago.
Yeah...again its fine to go back and forth on issues but if there's a legitimate dickhead/asshole-ness about it...that's not good.
Great pitcher but not made for NYC.
So, Bauer would be "fodder for NY media" because he argues back on social media, but is ok with domestic abusers such as Chapman, German, etc.? And Bauer is a bigger jerk than those two, for example? Not sure that I agree.
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Than Bauer? This guy would be fodder for the media in NYC given the way he handles his social media issues. This is the same guy that spent hours arguing with a 16-year-old girl a few years back. He has to respond to anyone who critiques him in a nasty way.
Great pitcher but not made for NYC.
So, Bauer would be "fodder for NY media" because he argues back on social media, but is ok with domestic abusers such as Chapman, German, etc.? And Bauer is a bigger jerk than those two, for example? Not sure that I agree.
LMAO.....Relax Francis, nowhere did I say that anyone is ok with "domestic abusers" nor does the media. You're completely missing the point I am making so let me try again. Given Bauers's habit of being overly sensitive to any criticism, they are going to bait him relentlessly. They're going to tweak the hell out of him just to get a reaction especially if he has a rough patch during the season.
He constantly complains about the attention he receives for being outspoken while at the same time in being outspoken answering questions.
I would assume they don't expect the Bauer camp to agree to the first offer, and they will have to write up a contract as well. I am sure the Mets are aware of the social media. Just speculation, but they may just be going through it so they can cite examples of what they would want him to tone down should he sign in NY.
and Stroman also way more political than Bauer.
If the Rangers can survive with Tony DeAngelo, the Mets can survive Bauer and Stroman (and neither Bauer or Stroman are like DeAngelo)
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Than Bauer? This guy would be fodder for the media in NYC given the way he handles his social media issues. This is the same guy that spent hours arguing with a 16-year-old girl a few years back. He has to respond to anyone who critiques him in a nasty way.
Great pitcher but not made for NYC.
So, Bauer would be "fodder for NY media" because he argues back on social media, but is ok with domestic abusers such as Chapman, German, etc.? And Bauer is a bigger jerk than those two, for example? Not sure that I agree.
LMAO.....Relax Francis, nowhere did I say that anyone is ok with "domestic abusers" nor does the media. You're completely missing the point I am making so let me try again. Given Bauers's habit of being overly sensitive to any criticism, they are going to bait him relentlessly. They're going to tweak the hell out of him just to get a reaction especially if he has a rough patch during the season.
He constantly complains about the attention he receives for being outspoken while at the same time in being outspoken answering questions.
You called Bauer the biggest dickhead choad in baseball because of some stupid social media crap, and you are asking me to relax? Interesting.
After what just happened with Porter, they can't screw this up.
No (and I'm not looking to argue Bauer) but Arizona traded him in part because the coaching staff had enough of him.
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Why did the Diamondbacks trade him? The relationship between team and pitcher deteriorated quickly. The Diamondbacks' frustration is the Indians' gain. Bauer's fastball is a plus pitch that sits in the low-90s and touches 96, while his curveball is a wipeout offering that earns 70 grades on the 20-80 scale from some scouts. He rounds out his repertoire with a splitter, a slider and a changeup, all of which could be average or better pitches. Bauer does need better command, which got him into trouble once he reached Arizona, but his delivery is fine and he should be able to make improvements in that area. Bauer could start the year in Cleveland's rotation and might immediately be its best starting pitcher."
Haha, that's hilarious. He's got to be my least favorite Met. That's some seriously thin-skinned stuff.
"Since day one in Spring Training I caught him and he killed me because he threw about 100 pitches the first day ... the next time he threw I saw him doing the same thing. He never wanted to listen."
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"Nevertheless, Bauer's outburst seemed to serve as a fitting sendoff for his Indians tenure, given its often volatile nature. And yet, there he was at Progressive Field on Wednesday -- hours after his trade had been made official -- watching from the stands as his now-former team faced the Houston Astros."
I don't need retorts of people saying he's a good guy. My point is his reputation goes beyond simply twitter "troll".
"Nevertheless, Bauer's outburst seemed to serve as a fitting sendoff for his Indians tenure, given its often volatile nature. And yet, there he was at Progressive Field on Wednesday -- hours after his trade had been made official -- watching from the stands as his now-former team faced the Houston Astros."
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Than Bauer? This guy would be fodder for the media in NYC given the way he handles his social media issues. This is the same guy that spent hours arguing with a 16-year-old girl a few years back. He has to respond to anyone who critiques him in a nasty way.
Great pitcher but not made for NYC.
So, Bauer would be "fodder for NY media" because he argues back on social media, but is ok with domestic abusers such as Chapman, German, etc.? And Bauer is a bigger jerk than those two, for example? Not sure that I agree.
LMAO.....Relax Francis, nowhere did I say that anyone is ok with "domestic abusers" nor does the media. You're completely missing the point I am making so let me try again. Given Bauers's habit of being overly sensitive to any criticism, they are going to bait him relentlessly. They're going to tweak the hell out of him just to get a reaction especially if he has a rough patch during the season.
He constantly complains about the attention he receives for being outspoken while at the same time in being outspoken answering questions.
You called Bauer the biggest dickhead choad in baseball because of some stupid social media crap, and you are asking me to relax? Interesting.
Holy shit, you really are in love with this guy. He is a dickhead choad and the majority of Baseball fans and media would agree.
Do you think he will quote tweet my take on here and sic his 400K Twitter followers on me as he did to that 16-year-old girl? Or how about the 28-year-old female fan w/ 128 followers who responded to his tweet slamming the Dodgers that he drove off of social media in 2017?
Tell me this post from him is not the kind of post from a dickhead choad?
@BauerOutage
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lol ummm. Lol yeah. You say that to one of the most scientific baseball players in MLB. Ok lol
Seriously who says shit like that? A dickhead choad does
-As for Stroman I defended him to everyone knocking him for opting out so when he was THAT defensive (again I didn't tag him) that I stated Bauer was better (and gave numbers why) to block me? Pretty weak. Then again, Jarrett Seidler had a complete meltdown this weekend and blocked me for asking what in particular he felt was "lies" in Rosenthal's first Bauer piece. He told me to "go to hell" for asking that question. I too thought Rosenthal's follow-up was pretty terrible (naming the women Bauer harassed) but his response was bizarre.
You may not, but a professional team in MLB that is trying to change course and rebuild its image should and will care and that's the whole point.
Possibly, but going after a 17-yr old girl and urging your Twitter followers to do the same is more than a yellow flag. He seems more than a little thin skinned, and that won't play well in NY. He'll be eaten alive.
-As for Stroman I defended him to everyone knocking him for opting out so when he was THAT defensive (again I didn't tag him) that I stated Bauer was better (and gave numbers why) to block me? Pretty weak. Then again, Jarrett Seidler had a complete meltdown this weekend and blocked me for asking what in particular he felt was "lies" in Rosenthal's first Bauer piece. He told me to "go to hell" for asking that question. I too thought Rosenthal's follow-up was pretty terrible (naming the women Bauer harassed) but his response was bizarre.
Jarrett seems knowledgeable about baseball prospects, but he seems like an unstable dude. He flys off the handle and goes off on random non-baseball twitter rants far too often. I think he has some issues.
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because I don't care about stupid-ass Twitter? That is a rather mundane Tweet you posted. Not the least bit offensive. Perhaps I am not easily offended.
You may not, but a professional team in MLB that is trying to change course and rebuild its image should and will care and that's the whole point.
I would prefer a team getting the best players, rather than players that I agree with politically, or always say things I like on Twitter. I am sure if the team that hires him has any issues with his Twitter, they will ask him to tone it down. That's how adults handle things.
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because I don't care about stupid-ass Twitter? That is a rather mundane Tweet you posted. Not the least bit offensive. Perhaps I am not easily offended.
You may not, but a professional team in MLB that is trying to change course and rebuild its image should and will care and that's the whole point.
I would prefer a team getting the best players, rather than players that I agree with politically, or always say things I like on Twitter. I am sure if the team that hires him has any issues with his Twitter, they will ask him to tone it down. That's how adults handle things.
Now, do you honestly and truly think that Bauer would tone it down if told to by the team he's playing for? We both know that won't happen.
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because I don't care about stupid-ass Twitter? That is a rather mundane Tweet you posted. Not the least bit offensive. Perhaps I am not easily offended.
You may not, but a professional team in MLB that is trying to change course and rebuild its image should and will care and that's the whole point.
I would prefer a team getting the best players, rather than players that I agree with politically, or always say things I like on Twitter. I am sure if the team that hires him has any issues with his Twitter, they will ask him to tone it down. That's how adults handle things.
Now, do you honestly and truly think that Bauer would tone it down if told to by the team he's playing for? We both know that won't happen.
I don't know, and I don't know him. If he said he wouldn't or told them to accept him for who he is, the Mets or any other team could make a decision based on that.
don't commit crimes. period.
anything else I don't give a shit and no idea why anyone else really does either.
the people who want athletes to be role models either didn't have role models growing up or are not suitable to be a role model themselves.
Chemistry is a consideration and sometimes is underrated, but some of sports best and most accomplished champions were assholes.
don't commit crimes. period.
anything else I don't give a shit and no idea why anyone else really does either.
the people who want athletes to be role models either didn't have role models growing up or are not suitable to be a role model themselves.
Chemistry is a consideration and sometimes is underrated, but some of sports best and most accomplished champions were assholes.
Amen. Anyone who has been in the locker room, or the military, knows this. There are people from all walks of life, all kinds of belief systems, all kinds of personalities, etc. Deal with it.
@benjpalmer
Jackie Bradley Jr.'s stats vs. expected stats last year:
.283 AVG vs. .230 xBA (9th biggest gap in MLB)
.347 wOBA vs. .299 xwOBA (8th biggest gap in MLB)
.450 SLG vs. .376 xSLG (17th biggest gap in MLB)
Not to mention career-lows in hard-hit rate (36.1%) and xwOBAcon (.334)
B/c a lineup with Conforto, Lindor, Alonso, McNeil, Nimmo, Smith, Davis can carry a weak bat in exchange for elite defense especially in CF.
I'd prefer he not be a total black hole and throughout his career he has had some nice offensive moments, but offense from him is gravy in my world.
And I would prefer to not sign JBJ based on other options, but my evaluation of him would be is he still an elite defensive CFer and do I expect that to continue.
don't commit crimes. period.
anything else I don't give a shit and no idea why anyone else really does either.
the people who want athletes to be role models either didn't have role models growing up or are not suitable to be a role model themselves.
Chemistry is a consideration and sometimes is underrated, but some of sports best and most accomplished champions were assholes.
No doubt, my only concern is the Mets giving him an enormous deal, and the press and/or Twitter trolls make his life miserable and it impacts his play. We’ve seen our share of thin skinned athletes melt under the any heat.
don't commit crimes. period.
anything else I don't give a shit and no idea why anyone else really does either.
the people who want athletes to be role models either didn't have role models growing up or are not suitable to be a role model themselves.
Chemistry is a consideration and sometimes is underrated, but some of sports best and most accomplished champions were assholes.
LOL, the '86 Mets come to mind, PJ! I mean, Len Dykstra, come on down.
@benjpalmer
Jackie Bradley Jr.'s stats vs. expected stats last year:
.283 AVG vs. .230 xBA (9th biggest gap in MLB)
.347 wOBA vs. .299 xwOBA (8th biggest gap in MLB)
.450 SLG vs. .376 xSLG (17th biggest gap in MLB)
Not to mention career-lows in hard-hit rate (36.1%) and xwOBAcon (.334)
what's that in comparison to Nimmo?