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nygiants16 : 1/27/2021 8:09 am
Knicks are 8-11, just after the quarter mark of the season and finished their "hard" part kf the schedule. Now a bunch of home games to finish the first half of thr season.

Better start then anyone of us have thought.

Randle: Looks a little tired towards the end of the road trip, but still playing well, 22 10 and 5 on the season. Turnovers still an issue, need another guy to take the pressure off of him and Rj.

Rj Barrett: Rough start to the season, i was as hard on him as anyone on here, but he has really started to play good consistent basketball. Not settling for 3, making the wide open ones. Still has some things to work on but playing very well as the number 2.

Immanuel Quickley: Still a little up and down, he is a bit of chucker but you love it when his shot is falling and i think it will fall more than it wont. He is not a true point guard but in todays NBA he can play the 1. I look for him to keep getting more minutes.

Mitchell Robinson: Good shot blocker, good rebounder, everything else meh. I think he is good at what he is, i dont think he is some untouchable player, in todays NBA you wonder whats his role..

Obi Toppin: injury has hurt him trying to find his spot on this team, you see moments and go damn and then you see moments and go WTF? & gt; do think his jumper will be mlre reliable as he gets more comfortable, need a point guard to unlock him.

Nerlens Noel: Good for ehat he is, back up big, has some moments you shake your head, but in his role he has value.

Austin Rivers: This is him, some games you are like how is he making on 3 million and some games you are going to say thank god it is only 3 million. I think he brings value to this team and i think he should start at point until Quickley is ready.

Alec Burks: Injiry hurt him and this team, he was rolling to start the season, best 3 point shooter on this team, and hopefully as he gets going again we see that player from thr start.

Elfrid, Knox, Bullock: Go the fuck away.

I expect trade rumors to start swirling because i think Rose and Thibs do not want to give up on this season and as long as they are close to the playoffs, they will make moves to help make this team better, i dont see selling off of vets
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Robinson and Noel in foul trouble.  
bceagle05 : 1/29/2021 8:11 pm : link
Wonder if we’ll get a Taj sighting.
Knox is terrible  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 8:13 pm : link
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Why the hell would Quickley commit that foul?  
bceagle05 : 1/29/2021 8:13 pm : link
Now we’re stuck with Payton.
RE: Why the hell would Quickley commit that foul?  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15138597 bceagle05 said:
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Now we’re stuck with Payton.


Im with clyde i hate that foul
RE: Randle looks terrible again.  
Strahan91 : 1/29/2021 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15138586 chopperhatch said:
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Doesnt get back on defense on transition and then shitty O foul.


Rapidly getting to the point where I am tired of getting big minutes.

Is Toppin supposed to take those minutes? Because he looks completely lost. Not encouraging given his age
Knox sucks.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/29/2021 8:18 pm : link
I'm done with 'Oh, let him develop.' He's not that good. Time to accept it.
RE: RE: Randle looks terrible again.  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15138603 Strahan91 said:
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Doesnt get back on defense on transition and then shitty O foul.


Rapidly getting to the point where I am tired of getting big minutes.


Is Toppin supposed to take those minutes? Because he looks completely lost. Not encouraging given his age


What does his age have to do with anything, he still only played 2 years of college..

Just because he is 22 doesnt mean he should be expected to come in right away
RE: RE: Randle looks terrible again.  
chopperhatch : 1/29/2021 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15138592 nygiants16 said:
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Doesnt get back on defense on transition and then shitty O foul.


Rapidly getting to the point where I am tired of getting big minutes.



So you harp on his only 2 bad plays?


It was the 1st quarter! I mustve missed all his great plays
Im actually on delay  
chopperhatch : 1/29/2021 8:24 pm : link
And he has 1 rebound in the half so far
I’m typing this after he made a nice play but  
Strahan91 : 1/29/2021 8:24 pm : link
of course age is a factor. You draft a 22 year old in the lottery with the expectation that he’s more nba ready than an 18-19 year old. Especially when his college production was so good. That it’s not translating (so far) is a red flag.
RE: RE: RE: Randle looks terrible again.  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 8:25 pm : link
In comment 15138612 chopperhatch said:
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Doesnt get back on defense on transition and then shitty O foul.


Rapidly getting to the point where I am tired of getting big minutes.



So you harp on his only 2 bad plays?



It was the 1st quarter! I mustve missed all his great plays


lol he has 3 assists and 3 boards and 1 turnover and just took his first shot..

you overanylyzing him now
RE: I’m typing this after he made a nice play but  
Anakim : 1/29/2021 8:26 pm : link
In comment 15138615 Strahan91 said:
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of course age is a factor. You draft a 22 year old in the lottery with the expectation that he’s more nba ready than an 18-19 year old. Especially when his college production was so good. That it’s not translating (so far) is a red flag.


Agreed, but I'm more worried about his foot speed. I thought he'd be a monster in the paint, but so far he's been disappointing. At best, he's Amare.
Wizards getting blown out again  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 8:39 pm : link
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OMG payton sucks  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 8:53 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Randle looks terrible again.  
chopperhatch : 1/29/2021 8:59 pm : link
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Doesnt get back on defense on transition and then shitty O foul.


Rapidly getting to the point where I am tired of getting big minutes.



So you harp on his only 2 bad plays?



It was the 1st quarter! I mustve missed all his great plays



lol he has 3 assists and 3 boards and 1 turnover and just took his first shot..

you overanylyzing him now


Thanks nygiants....I was on delay watching the game, but isnt he supposed to be playing like an all star? Barretts carried the team, not JR.
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nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 9:05 pm : link
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Doesnt get back on defense on transition and then shitty O foul.


Rapidly getting to the point where I am tired of getting big minutes.



So you harp on his only 2 bad plays?



It was the 1st quarter! I mustve missed all his great plays



lol he has 3 assists and 3 boards and 1 turnover and just took his first shot..

you overanylyzing him now



Thanks nygiants....I was on delay watching the game, but isnt he supposed to be playing like an all star? Barretts carried the team, not JR.


They have Let Rj handle a lot this game
They refuse to give Quickley free throws  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 9:06 pm : link
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Im almost caught up  
chopperhatch : 1/29/2021 9:11 pm : link
But Randle looks AWFUL this game. Yes, his other numbers arr ok, but how many rebounfs are a result of him not playing D and hanging out beneath the hoop and how many assists of his are because of him getting into trouble and dishing the ball to the first guy he saw?

I still like him, but he is playing the game like he is Carmelo Anthony minus the shots. And all the Knick announcers can talk about is his potential triple double.
RE: Im almost caught up  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 9:15 pm : link
In comment 15138644 chopperhatch said:
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But Randle looks AWFUL this game. Yes, his other numbers arr ok, but how many rebounfs are a result of him not playing D and hanging out beneath the hoop and how many assists of his are because of him getting into trouble and dishing the ball to the first guy he saw?

I still like him, but he is playing the game like he is Carmelo Anthony minus the shots. And all the Knick announcers can talk about is his potential triple double.


Some of his assists i agree, others are good set ups..

His rebounding is really good, he knows how to attack a board
Even if Quickley is off  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 9:16 pm : link
the spacing is so much better
Breaking News...  
bceagle05 : 1/29/2021 9:17 pm : link
Guys who can make baskets enter game, lead grows.
The Neophyte has been a delight!  
Stu11 : 1/29/2021 9:18 pm : link
Clyde can never retire. Ever.
Randle def picked his game up in 2nd half.  
chopperhatch : 1/29/2021 9:19 pm : link
In other news, who is this Barrett guy and what is he on? Barrett playing like a man possessed. So much confidence. Going to the hole like a bastard. Love it!!!
QUICKLEY!!!!!  
bceagle05 : 1/29/2021 9:22 pm : link
Gave us a great swimming gif, too!
No foul but basket counts  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 9:24 pm : link
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I like Rivers  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 9:32 pm : link
he seems to be the calming player next to Quickley, when he sees quickley going to fast he takes the ball and settles
IQ  
Carl in CT : 1/29/2021 9:35 pm : link
Does average a point per minute and has 4 rebounds would does Payton have? He sucks!!!
It is time Thibs  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 9:39 pm : link
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RE: I like Rivers  
bceagle05 : 1/29/2021 9:40 pm : link
In comment 15138662 nygiants16 said:
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he seems to be the calming player next to Quickley, when he sees quickley going to fast he takes the ball and settles

Yeah, the Quickley/Rivers/RJ combo is very effective.
Quickley didnt even vreak a sweat  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 9:45 pm : link
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Quickley's 3P%  
widmerseyebrow : 1/29/2021 9:45 pm : link
going up
Thibs riding the refs  
bceagle05 : 1/29/2021 9:47 pm : link
right til the clock hits zero.
Randle with a few nice strong moves  
chopperhatch : 1/29/2021 9:57 pm : link
To the hoop...in garbage time.
I am glad i put 10 bucks on Quickley winning rookie of the year  
nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 9:57 pm : link
win 255..
RE: I am glad i put 10 bucks on Quickley winning rookie of the year  
bceagle05 : 1/29/2021 10:21 pm : link
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win 255..

No wonder you want him to start!
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nygiants16 : 1/29/2021 10:21 pm : link
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win 255..


No wonder you want him to start!


hahaha a little bit
RE: The Neophyte has been a delight!  
Del Shofner : 1/29/2021 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15138652 Stu11 said:
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Clyde can never retire. Ever.


I'm with you on that.
RE: I am glad i put 10 bucks on Quickley winning rookie of the year  
Jon in NYC : 1/29/2021 10:27 pm : link
In comment 15138682 nygiants16 said:
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win 255..


Lol I put 25 to win 600. Great minds.
RE: RE: The Neophyte has been a delight!  
Mike from SI : 1/29/2021 10:40 pm : link
In comment 15138702 Del Shofner said:
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Clyde can never retire. Ever.



I'm with you on that.


Plus 1000
On another good note  
Mike from SI : 1/29/2021 10:44 pm : link
the Mavs are down 37-14. Obviously with Luka they can get back into any game in like 5 game minutes, but still a good start.
Just to follow up nygiants16...  
chopperhatch : 1/29/2021 11:35 pm : link
I really dont dislike JR as a player. But if we are serious about adding a scorer like Beal to the squad, do you want JR making the decisions he has been?

-Turning the ball over in the paint and on rebounds under the basket

-The shit-dishes he gives out when he gives up on a whirling drive to the hoop

-completely quitting on transition D

-missing badly under the basket (a no-no for a numbers 4

Again, I like the player, but is it so easy a decision to give up a player like Toppin whose game compliments Beal's game (command of the ball) over Randle. Randle's numbers might actually make the deal cost less interms of picks.

Honestly, I prefer to keep Toppin, but Im not 100%. Randle has a more polished game, but Toppin offers a different dimension athletically.
On a positive note,  
chopperhatch : 1/29/2021 11:48 pm : link
Aside from his great numbers, Barrett has been absolutely extraordinary in his new approach. Aggressive to the hole, instinctive in transition, better on defense, taking the shots that come to him.

I happily admit that I was wrong about his early season struggles and associating his college play with what he would do in the pros. He is playing VERY GOOD basketball.
The Mavs are down 87-60.  
Mike from SI : 1/29/2021 11:55 pm : link
KP has 3 points, 3 rebounds, and 5 fouls in 16 minutes.
RE: The Mavs are down 87-60.  
chopperhatch : 1/30/2021 12:22 am : link
In comment 15138736 Mike from SI said:
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KP has 3 points, 3 rebounds, and 5 fouls in 16 minutes.


Truly didnt see us being winners in that deal given how KP was playing with Dallas and how bad DSJ has been for us. But that Dallas 1st rounder is looking to be a serious chip at this point, tho its early.
Perfect evening for the Knicks.  
bceagle05 : 1/30/2021 12:37 am : link
God I would love to see the Mavs fall apart this season, though I suspect they’ll figure out a way to at least stay mediocre. Either way, that pick will be higher than anticipated.
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Anakim : 1/30/2021 12:42 am : link
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KP has 3 points, 3 rebounds, and 5 fouls in 16 minutes.



Truly didnt see us being winners in that deal given how KP was playing with Dallas and how bad DSJ has been for us. But that Dallas 1st rounder is looking to be a serious chip at this point, tho its early.


Knicks make the playoffs and draft Cade Cunningham. Make it happ'n, God. Lord knows we deserve it.
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chopperhatch : 1/30/2021 1:02 am : link
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KP has 3 points, 3 rebounds, and 5 fouls in 16 minutes.



Truly didnt see us being winners in that deal given how KP was playing with Dallas and how bad DSJ has been for us. But that Dallas 1st rounder is looking to be a serious chip at this point, tho its early.



Knicks make the playoffs and draft Cade Cunningham. Make it happ'n, God. Lord knows we deserve it.


You aim awfully high Anak. Lol
Porzingis kinda sucks now  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/30/2021 1:44 am : link
RE: Porzingis kinda sucks now  
Anakim : 1/30/2021 1:45 am : link
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LOL. Reminds me of that Bargnani fail.
I actually think  
nygiants16 : 1/30/2021 8:05 am : link
Last night was one of Randles best games, even though he didnt sckre at a high clip, he let the game come to him...

Can we start talking about how the Knicks may have won the KP trade??
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